ambient display battery usage - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

How many of you are using the ambient display and how much battery does it drain in average?
I had it turned on from day one, but want to use it for the cool now listening songs feature while screen is off

EnIXmA said:
How many of you are using the ambient display and how much battery does it drain in average?
I had it turned on from day one, but want to use it for the cool now listening songs feature while screen is off
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I can't tell you how much exactly but it is a noticeable amount.
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I Use ambient display, but don't really notice my battery taking a hit...

If you keep it in you pocket or face down (proximity sensor turns off the display on said conditions) when you're not using your phone the battery drain isn't noticeable

EnIXmA said:
How many of you are using the ambient display and how much battery does it drain in average?
I had it turned on from day one, but want to use it for the cool now listening songs feature while screen is off
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why not just try it and see how much it affects you?
I notice no drain from it at all, doesnt mean you will or wont however.

Been using it since day one and I'm fine with whatever minimal drain it does.
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It would have to use some amount not matter what. People that state they don't notice a difference etc is not possible. So there is no doubt about it. It will definitely get a hit. I suggest you try it for a day or two and see how you go

It is both.
In few cases it affect battery life.
In few cases it saves battery life.
My usage of phone ambience more than 90% of time is same so I manually set brightness. Enabling adaptiveness affected battery life.
However for others whose ambience changes from low brightness to high brightness, enabling it may save battery. Auto setting feature of phone do consume battery but battery saving provided by auto setting can be less or more depending on usage.
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Hi
It all depends on your usage. If you regularly use your phone during the day, so need to charge your phone every day, than the percentage of power used by Ambient display is low compared to the phone usage, so it wouldn't seem to impact much on the battery. If however you are a light user of the phone (for example I can go 3 to 5 days sometimes without needing to charge my XL), then having Ambient display turned on would probably half or more your standby time.
This is why some people will see extra power drain, others it goes un-noticed.
Regards
Phil

EnIXmA said:
How many of you are using the ambient display and how much battery does it drain in average?
I had it turned on from day one, but want to use it for the cool now listening songs feature while screen is off
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actually I had measure battery drain between ambient display ON or OFF (I let double tap and life to check phone ON).
based on my actual results, ambient ON takes 47 mAh and ambient OFF takes 9.1 mAh. To put simply, ambient ON drain 1.5%/hour while ambient OFF drain 0.3%/hour. In summary, putting ON ambient display will takes 1.2%/hour.
*sorry for my bad english

yuyakuchiki said:
actually I had measure battery drain between ambient display ON or OFF (I let double tap and life to check phone ON).
based on my actual results, ambient ON takes 47 mAh and ambient OFF takes 9.1 mAh. To put simply, ambient ON drain 1.5%/hour while ambient OFF drain 0.3%/hour. In summary, putting ON ambient display will takes 1.2%/hour.
*sorry for my bad english
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may i ask how many measure (and the duration of the measurement) did you take ?

Husky34 said:
may i ask how many measure (and the duration of the measurement) did you take ?
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When ambient is ON I measure for 6 hours, and while OFF only about 2 hours.
I'm using AccuBattery to get the numbers

yuyakuchiki said:
actually I had measure battery drain between ambient display ON or OFF (I let double tap and life to check phone ON).
based on my actual results, ambient ON takes 47 mAh and ambient OFF takes 9.1 mAh. To put simply, ambient ON drain 1.5%/hour while ambient OFF drain 0.3%/hour. In summary, putting ON ambient display will takes 1.2%/hour.
*sorry for my bad english
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Very useful information, bro, thank you so much for doing the test I was planning to do XD
By the way:
Never apologize for your "bad english". You're not speaking your native language, you're not writing an resumee or applying for a job, you're on a internet forum about technology bringing useful information to people. The objective of language is to complete communication, you're not obligated to be fluent or to be perfect on a language that is not your own.

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Any of you see a big battery difference with brightness??

So I've always used my phones with automatic brightness, but it seemed like this one would always be really low. The only time I would see the brightness change at all was when I'd take my phone out in the day when it was sunny. So I decided to switch it to full brightness on all the time and haven't really noticed a big difference in battery life. Plus with such a great display it looks so much better with the full brightness on. Any of you tried this and notice a big battery drain??
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Im the opposite of you. If i have my brightness pass mid, my battery will be drained in no time. So i am forced to use low. I cant even use Auto Adjust, because that will also use a lot of battery. Mid and higher, my battery drainage will be around 59%-65%
For me full brightness really kills my battery. I I used to do full brightness but after going on my quest to improve my battery life I ended up sticking with ~50% brightness
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The display is (generally) the biggest drain on your battery, so adjusting the brightness level accordingly definitely has an effect one way or the other. If I'm not in direct sunlight I leave my brightness very low, usually around ~15-20%
One of the biggest battery savers I found was a new watch my wife bought me. No more turning the display on/off throughout the day just to see what time it is

Possible solution to Battery issue after lollipop update

I love this device, but the battery drain is much worse after the update IMHO. I have reset the phone quite a few times because of it.
Following my last reset to faftory, I accidentally did NOT set brightness to auto and have had it around 50%. Low and behold, my battery life has shot up from 10 hours to 18 hours. I could be wrong and will report back in a mother few days as to whether this has done it.
Of course , I am still suffering from the GPS issue, but the battery life was going to make me switch to a g4. Maybe now i wont.
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All the Samsung phones I've had (the note 4 is 4th) have all had horible battery drain if I used auto-brightness. On the Note 4, I get almost 8 hours of screen-on time on a charge that lasts almost a day and a half.
I thought it was common knowledge to turn off auto-brightness to save battery.
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Clearly not. ..
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It is annoying. I will try as you suggested and will be tracking for a few days
I use auto brightness with no problems to my battery life since a factory reset after LP.. you can also disable enhanced LTE to get more life.
but yes even though I always keep it on, auto brightness doesn't have the greatest detection
all personal experience
I've always used auto brightness and on KitKat I used to always get around 6 hours of screen on time. With lollipop its between 3-4. I even tried a factory reset and it still didn't fix the issue.
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Auto brightness is going to affect any phone on any os. It's just another sensor that consumes battery. If you think about it it's always on and always monitoring lighting conditions and making calculations. So disabling it will help with battery life regardless of the device. Good rule of thumb for decent battery life is disable auto brightness, location, Bluetooth, nfc and Wi-Fi when not in use.
45ACP1911 said:
Auto brightness is going to affect any phone on any os. It's just another sensor that consumes battery. If you think about it it's always on and always monitoring lighting conditions and making calculations. So disabling it will help with battery life regardless of the device. Good rule of thumb for decent battery life is disable auto brightness, location, Bluetooth, nfc and Wi-Fi when not in use.
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Why turn WiFi off? WiFi consumes way less battery than 4G does.
heXacode said:
Why turn WiFi off? WiFi consumes way less battery than 4G does.
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When not in use
My screen is only on for an average of 1.5-2hrs a day. Most of my battery drain occurs during sleep. Phone does deep sleep though, but wakes up every now and then.
I've disable everything I can (including enhanced lte), and even set up a Tasker profile that keeps Sync off at all times, but enables it for 2 mins 4x a day (24hrs).
So I'm going to ask these questions even though I'm pretty sure I already know the answers.
Will turning off auto brightness affect standby battery.
And will it make any dramatic difference during the 2 or so hours that the screen is actually on?
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Rather lose a little battery than eat up background mobile data instead of wifi though. Just my opinion.
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spexwood said:
My screen is only on for an average of 1.5-2hrs a day. Most of my battery drain occurs during sleep. Phone does deep sleep though, but wakes up every now and then.
I've disable everything I can (including enhanced lte), and even set up a Tasker profile that keeps Sync off at all times, but enables it for 2 mins 4x a day (24hrs).
So I'm going to ask these questions even though I'm pretty sure I already know the answers.
Will turning off auto brightness affect standby battery.
And will it make any dramatic difference during the 2 or so hours that the screen is actually on?
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It might be easier to help if you could share the battery stats screenshot from the settings-general option ☺.. We have no idea what you've installed or running..
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It might be easier to help if you could share the battery stats screenshot from the settings-general option ☺.. We have no idea what you've installed or running..
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I actually wasn't asking "what's killing my battery?"
I was basically just trying to ask if auto brightness will affect standby time or not. I was thinking the answer would be that with Auto on, it wouldn't affect standby battery at all since during standby, the screen isn't on, so the phone wouldn't be using battery to try and auto adjust itself.
But today I'm running my phone with Auto brightness off and so far I'm pleasantly surprised by the results. Though, today is my day off from work, so my phone is also getting atypical usage with it being on wifi all day and not being under fluorescent lighting and more standby than usual.
Edit: also, SOT has been so low today that it isn't even showing under the battery consumption list. So yeah, today has been very atypical. Lol.
I'm going to spend this week using my phone like normal, but having auto brightness on one day and off another. I'll report back here with what I notice, as well as some screenshots of battery usage.
I'm curious to see if there really is any change in battery consumption.
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I don't think it's the sensor, it's how high the brightness goes. The sensor is just a small lumen counter. However, Samsung cranks the brightness really high to keep the user experience positive. It's Samsung's brightness that kills the battery, and has nothing to do with Lollipop or KK.
okay, i did something else and actually help me a lot:
Settings--->General--->Security--->Trust Agents--->Smart Lock (Goole)--->Off
And did what you guys talking about the brigthness and now i have 21 hours left!
You can bring any Samsung device to any BestBuy and they can help out by reflashing the phone and calibrating the battery. They also can help with any consumer, enterprise, and prosumer related problems. Most techs are awesome but there is the off chance you may get a bad one though. They are there to troubleshoot issues and work directly for Samsung and not best buy so they are supposed to know the phone and tablets by heart.
ekerbuddyeker said:
I love this device, but the battery drain is much worse after the update IMHO. I have reset the phone quite a few times because of it.
Following my last reset to faftory, I accidentally did NOT set brightness to auto and have had it around 50%. Low and behold, my battery life has shot up from 10 hours to 18 hours. I could be wrong and will report back in a mother few days as to whether this has done it.
Of course , I am still suffering from the GPS issue, but the battery life was going to make me switch to a g4. Maybe now i wont.
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What GPS issue?

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy S8+ before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy S8+ before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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4% to go and at 6 1/2 hours. This without power savings.
Renovate rom and notorius kernel
myrums said:
Renovate rom and notorius kernel
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How do you consume battery whilst on dex ?? mine charges the phone whilst I'm using it.
isaacary said:
How do you consume battery whilst on dex ?? mine charges the phone whilst I'm using it.
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I'm not using dex. It's android system i think, gsam is showing wrong.
jnyfive said:
4% to go and at 6 1/2 hours. This without power savings.
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I usually get 5 to 5,5 hrs sot . it depends on usage but never dies in day usage.
zuckerboy said:
I usually get 5 to 5,5 hrs sot . it depends on usage but never dies in day usage.
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I'm averaging 5.5, sometimes near 6 lately. Not bad for stock.
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Amazing battery life on the s8+
Battery life has been a bit inconsistent. Usually I get around 4 or 5 hours screen on time, though honestly my habit with all my phone Shas been to charge them whenever possible. If I'm driving, I set it on the mount and plug it in. If I'm at home or work and not using it, I plug it in (or in this case set it on the wireless charger). But I was fairly unimpressed with the S8+ battery life.
Yesterday and today, I turned on the medium battery power setting. It seems to have increased my screen on time dramatically, but I'm also at home and on wifi.
Medium decreases screen brightness by 10%, sets resolution to FHD+, underclocks by 30%, and turns off the AOD. Of these, the only thing I miss is the AOD, but it also seems to make the most difference in battery life.
Either way, my battery life today is much better. So far I've had almost five and a half hours of screen on time and 54% battery remaining. That's all surfing the internet, posting here, texting my wife, taking a few photos, and a little Facebook. I'd say that is fairly impressive.
I'll see how the battery holds out Monday when I'm away from wifi, driving through varying cell tower coverage areas. I'll also check how it is if I turn the AOD back on. I do like the AOD.
Really good for a stock rom
Bat Rom & Noto.
Could of got to 10hrs but was playing with themes which require reboots.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Battery life has been a bit inconsistent. Usually I get around 4 or 5 hours screen on time, though honestly my habit with all my phone Shas been to charge them whenever possible. If I'm driving, I set it on the mount and plug it in. If I'm at home or work and not using it, I plug it in (or in this case set it on the wireless charger). But I was fairly unimpressed with the S8+ battery life.
Yesterday and today, I turned on the medium battery power setting. It seems to have increased my screen on time dramatically, but I'm also at home and on wifi.
Medium decreases screen brightness by 10%, sets resolution to FHD+, underclocks by 30%, and turns off the AOD. Of these, the only thing I miss is the AOD, but it also seems to make the most difference in battery life.
Either way, my battery life today is much better. So far I've had almost five and a half hours of screen on time and 54% battery remaining. That's all surfing the internet, posting here, texting my wife, taking a few photos, and a little Facebook. I'd say that is fairly impressive.
I'll see how the battery holds out Monday when I'm away from wifi, driving through varying cell tower coverage areas. I'll also check how it is if I turn the AOD back on. I do like the AOD.
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Do you notice any decreases in performances with the underclocking? Or are things still fairly snappy?
tsmith1223 said:
Do you notice any decreases in performances with the underclocking? Or are things still fairly snappy?
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I don't notice any performance issues at all with it underclocked. But I don't do any gaming either, so that may be an issue for others.
jnyfive said:
I'm averaging 5.5, sometimes near 6 lately. Not bad for stock.
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Oh thats not much for that capacity of battery I expected around 10hours SOT
Daveprorc said:
Oh thats not much for that capacity of battery I expected around 10hours SOT
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Is this serious? What's your frame of reference?
This is mine on stock full resolution with aod turned on Amazing battery best in the business!!
wooow love
Mikeybray16 said:
This is mine on stock full resolution with aod turned on Amazing battery best in the business!!
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How? what apps are you using and other stuff?
jirka607 said:
How? what apps are you using and other stuff?
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Use Facebook,Instagram,Snapchat,YouTube,Twitter,WhatsApp and maybe a few games too id say medium to heavy usage and I got easily 10 hours sot each day!
Mikeybray16 said:
Use Facebook,Instagram,Snapchat,YouTube,Twitter,WhatsApp and maybe a few games too id say medium to heavy usage and I got easily 10 hours sot each day!
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On wifi or LTE because it seems impossible to reach those numbers for me.

auto brightness

Running your pixel 2 xl on auto brightness is good or bad? Does it use more or less battery?
dieselhazza said:
Running your pixel 2 xl on auto brightness is good or bad? Does it use more or less battery?
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It doesn't use much battery compared to Adaptive Brightness off unless you keep your screen at something low like 10% or less the whole time.
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Running your pixel 2 xl on auto brightness is good or bad? Does it use more or less battery?
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I've always, even with previous phones, used manual brightness. Partly because I am usually happy with brightness to be kept at, for this device, at 15% and if I need to adjust Ill use Brightness Control. I also feel that battery life must surely be better as the sensor isn't constantly being used to gauge how bright the screen should be and lastly always found autobrightness to increase/decrease the screen brightness randomly, e.g. Say in my living room and it'll just increase/decrease slightly.
So ultimately I'm very happy just to manually adjust
cd993 said:
I've always, even with previous phones, used manual brightness. Partly because I am usually happy with brightness to be kept at, for this device, at 15% and if I need to adjust Ill use Brightness Control. I also feel that battery life must surely be better as the sensor isn't constantly being used to gauge how bright the screen should be and lastly always found autobrightness to increase/decrease the screen brightness randomly, e.g. Say in my living room and it'll just increase/decrease slightly.
So ultimately I'm very happy just to manually adjust
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Mine is set to.20% with auto brightness enabled. At most times it hovers very close to 20%. I guess if i disabled auto brightness i will get better battery life. At the moment i average 7 hrs SOT.
So what do you achieve in terms of SOT at 15% brightness
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Mine is set to.20% with auto brightness enabled. At most times it hovers very close to 20%. I guess if i disabled auto brightness i will get better battery life. At the moment i average 7 hrs SOT.
So what do you achieve in terms of SOT at 15% brightness
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I've been averaging around 6hrs (just need to stay on one rom long enough haha)
cd993 said:
I've been averaging around 6hrs (just need to stay on one rom long enough haha)
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Ha!!....like that's gonna happen! Mr. Flash Master! ???
cd993 said:
I've been averaging around 6hrs (just need to stay on one rom long enough haha)
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I'm just running on stock firmware and happy with the battery performance.

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Samsung Galaxy S11's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
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Exynos version 1.5%/ hour or more for several nights. Data from accubattery
mangdionisio said:
Exynos version 1.5%/ hour or more for several nights. Data from accubattery
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I get 0.8%/hour with AOD display off and 1.6% with AOD on/hour. so if you get AOD on, it is OK.
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I get 0.8%/hour with AOD display off and 1.6% with AOD on/hour. so if you get AOD on, it is OK.
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So it's about here, overnight, 0.7% without AOD ..... S20 Ultra Exynos
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maximus81 said:
I get 0.8%/hour with AOD display off and 1.6% with AOD on/hour. so if you get AOD on, it is OK.
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I have AOD off. i dont use it at night.
Bad battery, so much drain screen on and off s20 snapdragon
applicationz said:
Bad battery, so much drain screen on and off s20 snapdragon
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It must be some application you are having that it drains your battery. Mine is 0.4%/hour on LTE.
S20+ snapdragon
mishufac said:
It must be some application you are having that it drains your battery. Mine is 0.4%/hour on LTE.
S20+ snapdragon
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Hmmm, your s20 is showing amazing stats. It is not any particular app. I am sure device js taking time to seetle.
Are you on 120?
My screen on consumes too much 16% an hour.
After returning one handset to O2 thinking it was faulty because of the standby drain I got my 2nd one
A exynos chip S20.
After changing all the settings such as refresh rate, dark mode, disabled apps, sleep settings, always off, 5g ... It still drained something terrible.
I dropped from 100 to 77 percent in 1 hour, checking the battery stats there was no single app using it.
I did find that after a factory reset and manual install of apps (not smartswitch) it lasted a little longer but no way I'd get through a work day one one charge
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After returning one handset to O2 thinking it was faulty because of the standby drain I got my 2nd one
A exynos chip S20.
After changing all the settings such as refresh rate, dark mode, disabled apps, sleep settings, always off, 5g ... It still drained something terrible.
I dropped from 100 to 77 percent in 1 hour, checking the battery stats there was no single app using it.
I did find that after a factory reset and manual install of apps (not smartswitch) it lasted a little longer but no way I'd get through a work day one one charge
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1% hours with wifi and gps on and optimized mode
applicationz said:
Bad battery, so much drain screen on and off s20 snapdragon
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Don't know what settings you have or what's wrong with yours, but I have the US Snapdragon S20+, and my battery is absolutely awesome, standby drain included. My settings are dark mode, hidden 96hz refresh rate, WiFi full-time (damn COVID19), optimized mode for battery, location and Bluetooth on full-time, no NFC on ever, and automatic brightness settings. Like I said, I've gone 2 full days on a charge before, but pretty much always get around 36hrs, with 9-10hrs of screen on time. I'm loving this phone ??
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Don't know what settings you have or what's wrong with yours, but I have the US Snapdragon S20+, and my battery is absolutely awesome, standby drain included. My settings are dark mode, hidden 96hz refresh rate, WiFi full-time (damn COVID19), optimized mode for battery, location and Bluetooth on full-time, no NFC on ever, and automatic brightness settings. Like I said, I've gone 2 full days on a charge before, but pretty much always get around 36hrs, with 9-10hrs of screen on time. I'm loving this phone ?
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This is crazy figures! I don't get why Samsung are rpping Europeans off with the crappy exynos models. I have the exynos variant and need to turn aeroplane mode on overnight and get 0.4/hr drop.
Sot is usually about 8-9%/hr so from a full charge I should expect 9-10hrs SOT. I have had to fiddle with my settings a lot though.
Rubbish.
Do you guys have auto sync on? That affects battery but I don't know how bad it affects it.
Love to know how. Iv sacked off the device now. #worsehandsetever lol
That's issue with exynos have to do a lot of tinkering disabling apps and other stuff turning location and sync off and aod, ridiculous really, seems like snapdragon is top drawer straight out the box
I wonder how many people jumped into this thread to give a 1 star after owning the phone for less than a week. Give the phone time to learn your usage patterns, jesus christ.
dear all,
I managed to reduce the standby battery drain for Exynos.
Now if you don;t use the phone the battery won;t get consumed.
I am using Package Disabler Pro and some bloatware xml
i will create a thread here step by step how to.
cheers.
My S20+ Exynos drains about 0.3% overnight. Nothing special, wifi always on, sync on, 120 hz.
I had S10 SD version and it was draining 1.5-2% overnight on same settings
My s20 ultra exynos drains the same, ~2% overnight, but that is after ATD3 update
Always I am getting very bad results
I swithed off 5g and screen is running at 60htz
Battery drain on stand by is around 2% on wifi and around 4% if i use 4g data
Other thing that my phone is warm almost all the time.
I disabled many apps but with no improvment.
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