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Hi every one,
As far i know, there is a BUG on every official ROM for European GSM Touch Pro2.
When your battery get full charged and keeping it plugged to the wallcharger, then your Pro2 start taking the power from your battery and NOT from the charger.
This can be checked by yourself and you will see that even with it connected, the battery in running down charge, till you unplug it and plug it again after some minutes/seconds.
Yeah, I have noticed it as well. Anyone have a solution?
Not a bug. LiPoly's do not like being trickle charged, therefore the charger turns off.
I have not verified it on the TP2 but I suspect that if you let it sit long enough the battery level would drop to some level and the charger would charge it back to 100%.
This is a rather good new if it can manage battery loads cycles...
khaytsus said:
Not a bug. LiPoly's do not like being trickle charged, therefore the charger turns off.
I have not verified it on the TP2 but I suspect that if you let it sit long enough the battery level would drop to some level and the charger would charge it back to 100%.
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It oughta turn the charger off and run the device from the mains, though, not from the battery. Is it doing that?
godefroi said:
It oughta turn the charger off and run the device from the mains, though, not from the battery. Is it doing that?
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No it is NOT doing that, so to me it is a BUG.
just thought i would add this
for some reason on saturday i charged my phone via usb/pc and it lasted less than 24 hrs
so on sunday i drained it and charged it vis the plug
its still going noe
72 hrs 23 mins in stanby 30 mins talk and 4 hrs 7 mins use since 17.43 on 18/10/09
is never been this good so i thought it may be the new rom
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
Lithium-ion
(Li-ion)
Do charge the battery often. The battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges.
Do not use if pack gets hot during charge. Check also charger.
Charge methods: Constant voltage to 4.20V/cell (typical). No trickle-charge when full. Li-ion may remain in the charger (no memory). Battery must remain cool. No fast-charge possible.
Rapid charge = 3h
also i have read some where on xda that once it reaches 100% it'll stop charging
godefroi said:
It oughta turn the charger off and run the device from the mains, though, not from the battery. Is it doing that?
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You know of any other modern phone that runs off the mains without the battery? None of my last three phones would without the battery.
khaytsus said:
You know of any other modern phone that runs off the mains without the battery? None of my last three phones would without the battery.
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My Kaiser will. It turns off when you pull the battery, but you can turn it right back on.
Every one is talking about battery and it's components but no one speaks about that with charger pluged in, it should supply power and by pass the battery once it is fully charged like others models do.
sounds like you all need to do warranty exchanges for that lol
Tallpap said:
sounds like you all need to do warranty exchanges for that lol
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No, what we need is that HTC do what we paid for.
User22 said:
Every one is talking about battery and it's components but no one speaks about that with charger pluged in, it should supply power and by pass the battery once it is fully charged like others models do.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571606 some people here probably would help
xnifex said:
it's true, once the TP2 hits 100% it stops charging the battery & the usage time will kick in.
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and on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573037&page=4 which a guy says
mattdoyal said:
Just tried my TP2 without the battery and plugged, didn't power on. Why would they take away the ability to power on while plugged in but with the battery removed?? This was and would be a great troubleshooting step. Hey HTC, start building our phones with this option!!
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i hope this helps
Have in mind that once the battery is fully charged, it never go to charge again till you unplug the cable of your wall/car charger... so what will hapen then???
hello anyone know about the issue with the battery ok when i charge my euro tp2 all night and when i go to start>settings>all settings>system>power i then click on the infomation tab and under last full charge i get "not applicable" and get 0 hours and 0minute for the rest
im running the offical htc 6.5 rom
To me this sounds CRAZY. So people are saying that when the device is fully charged it starts to use its battery, thats just crazy... So basically charging it overnight leaves you with "almost" full battery in the morning...
I havent noticed anything out of the ordinary, and every morning when I come and take my device from the charger the charging light is green (opposed to the orange when started charging) and the battery shows to be 100% full.
I will check this again in the morning as I havent really paid 10000% attention to it, but I think I would have noticed the weird behaviour…
noticed this since day 1. my dash didnt do this. i did notice that a soft reset will resume the charge.
This is normal behavior for battery powered devices.
When it's plugged in, the charge circuit charges the battery.
The device itself always runs off the battery when it's available, this is why some devices won't power on without the battery installed, and many devices won't power on with a failed battery installed.
Laptops do the same thing, though they can switch to AC only without losing their state.
It's a holdover I think from when electronics couldn't switch between power sources fast enough to not lose anything (I remember the original game boy would reset no matter what if you tried to switch between batt and AC). It's possible that cell phones can't make this transition since there isn't really extra space to stuff in the bits that allow this (some large-ish caps).
I've also heard that this reduces wear on the electronics, because the voltage is more reliable, but I've never seen that documented.
kay7 said:
The device itself always runs off the battery when it's available, this is why some devices won't power on without the battery installed, and many devices won't power on with a failed battery installed.
Laptops do the same thing, though they can switch to AC only without losing their state.
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I don't think this is true for (modern) laptops. All the macbooks and thinkpads that I've owned had a feature that if you plug it in while the battery is above X% (usually around 96) it will not charge. It even gives a message saying "Not Charging" in the battery status. The battery percentage then stays constant no matter how long I use the laptop, so it is not DIScharging either. Therefore it must be running from AC. If it can do that, I doubt they would have it run off the battery as soon as it is charged to 100% on a full charge cycle. I think any time AC is plugged in, a modern laptop will run from AC rather than battery, regardless of whether it is currently charging the battery. However, that's just my theory from personal observations.
As you all know, the Evo battery charging mechanism is very quirky. If you are using the stock battery, the mechanism is not THAT bad once you understand how it works. If, like me, you are using the 3500 battery, charging the battery in the Evo is pretty much futile. Reason being, for some reason the Evo still thinks it is charging the stock battery despite the fact that you have a battery that is 2.5 the capacity in it. What this means is, the fully charged green light comes on at about the 65% level and you ultimately have to play a guessing game as to when the battery is actually charged. This is also after calibrating and wiping stats and doing whatever dumb HTC/sprint charging "trick" out there.
I am pleading here for someone to create an app that measures the true capacity and charge level of the battery so that we can all, especially extended battery users, know when the battery is actually fully charged. I am positive that there are donations in the project as this app will benefit all Evo users.
Please help and thanks in advance.
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I've been looking at the 3500mAh batteries as well, would love to get one, but i flat refuse to pry open my Evo everytime I want a FULL charge (having to resort to wall charging)
I'm not an expert in electrical engineering at all but I'm going to make an educated guess that the charging circuitry is independant of anything that the OS itself can control. Even with the phone 100% off it still has to obey the "rules" of charging that HTC setup. (i.e. charging to 100% then running off battery till it hits 90%) So I don't see how there can be an easy workaround for extended battery users if they want a true 100% charge.
I'd love a bit more juice myself, but like I said the only time I want to have to open up the back is if im upgrading my mSD card. If and until someone can come up with a solution, hell yeah! Until then I will just play with juice defender and hone my battery saving ability via software
I know the Battery Time app you can put in how big your battery is. Just select other when choosing your phone.
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in for progress on this.
so tell me even though the phone thinks the battery is charged, does it stop charging it too?
If I remember correctly that may have to be done in the ROM/kernel, there is most likely a charging timer somewhere in there that stops it for safety reasons.
When changing the timer remember that the batteries are actually closer to 2800mAh than 3500, you don't want to overcharge it.
http://batteryboss.org/
Jsimon9633 said:
in for progress on this.
so tell me even though the phone thinks the battery is charged, does it stop charging it too?
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No it continues to charge which is even more nonsensical and adds to the frustrating guessing game. Seidio recommends that you keep the phone on the charger for 2-3 hours passed the time that the light turns green. Again, more guess work.
xHausx said:
If I remember correctly that may have to be done in the ROM/kernel, there is most likely a charging timer somewhere in there that stops it for safety reasons.
When changing the timer remember that the batteries are actually closer to 2800mAh than 3500, you don't want to overcharge it.
http://batteryboss.org/
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I think you are referring to wiping battery stats. I have tried this on several Roms and kernels to no avail. Also, if you aren't rooted, how would you go about wiping stats? An app would help a lot of people out.
Also after doing some more research and testing, any app that provides battery level that I have used including OS monitor, spare parts, etc. will basically spit out what the OS is telling it and not measure the true level. Unfortunatley, the OS is stuck on stupid and we are back to the original issue.
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I think you are referring to wiping battery stats. I have tried this on several Roms and kernels to no avail. Also, if you aren't rooted, how would you go about wiping stats? An app would help a lot of people out.
Also after doing some more research and testing, any app that provides battery level that I have used including OS monitor, spare parts, etc. will basically spit out what the OS is telling it and not measure the true level. Unfortunatley, the OS is stuck on stupid and we are back to the original issue.
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I don't believe it is possible for an app to do what you are wanting, the charging process is controlled by the operating system itself and is built into the kernel.
There are two main steps to charging a li-ion and the first one finishes when the battery is around 70% full. So either something is causing the phone not to start the second part of the process, it is just timing out thinking that battery should have been by that time, or, since the batteries have circuitry inside of them, it could be the battery itself that is doing it. Have you tried charging your phone through your USB port? It takes longer but the battery may not like how much power the wall charger pushes through it.
Edit: I think I misread your OP, does your phone stop charging when it says it's full or does it keep charging?
xHausx said:
I don't believe it is possible for an app to do what you are wanting, the charging process is controlled by the operating system itself and is built into the kernel.
There are two main steps to charging a li-ion and the first one finishes when the battery is around 70% full. So either something is causing the phone not to start the second part of the process, it is just timing out thinking that battery should have been by that time, or, since the batteries have circuitry inside of them, it could be the battery itself that is doing it. Have you tried charging your phone through your USB port? It takes longer but the battery may not like how much power the wall charger pushes through it.
Edit: I think I misread your OP, does your phone stop charging when it says it's full or does it keep charging?
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The phone continues to charge. Based on what you are saying and my own findings, it seems the phone is reporting that initial charge at 70% as 100% when using the 3500 battery.
I am in the midst of testing some things right now related to all of this and will report back.
MSmith1 said:
The phone continues to charge. Based on what you are saying and my own findings, it seems the phone is reporting that initial charge at 70% as 100% when using the 3500 battery.
I am in the midst of testing some things right now related to all of this and will report back.
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Thanks keep us up to date. I bought this battery too so very interested in any possible solution you find.
Basically the os says its 100% when in reality its not even close, more like 65% right?
Jsimon9633 said:
Thanks keep us up to date. I bought this battery too so very interested in any possible solution you find.
Basically the os says its 100% when in reality its not even close, more like 65% right?
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Yes. 10char.
how does the phone read the charge or does it?
maybe a glitch in regulating the flow?
any software determine could do this?
mine charges a good 8-10 hrs a night
never had a phone that needed more
anyone had to buy a standard battery replacement and get better battery?
software or hardware?
Jsimon9633 said:
Thanks keep us up to date. I bought this battery too so very interested in any possible solution you find.
Basically the os says its 100% when in reality its not even close, more like 65% right?
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Looks like I failed again. This issue really needs attention from someone well versed with how the Evo charges the battery and how to tweak the reporting deep in the android system. Wiping battery stats in recovery does not solve this issue. We need a SetBat!
I got curious so I looked at the evo's source and found that it stops charging when it thinks the battery is full and doesn't start again until it drops down to 80%. Although it should start charging again if you unplug it and then plug it back in. To fix it you will need someone to make drivers for your battery and incorporate it into a ROM.
Sorry I can't help more but compiling ROMs is still a little bit over my head right now.
xHausx said:
I got curious so I looked at the evo's source and found that it stops charging when it thinks the battery is full and doesn't start again until it drops down to 80%. Although it should start charging again if you unplug it and then plug it back in. To fix it you will need someone to make drivers for your battery and incorporate it into a ROM.
Sorry I can't help more but compiling ROMs is still a little bit over my head right now.
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Very interesting. The problem here is, the Evo stops charging when it thinks the stock battery is at 100 even though you have an extended battery in it.
I guess we would need a talented dev to compile a fix. Hoping that this thread can bring some attention to that. Looks like we have progress already!
Here are my findings from the monitoring I was doing earlier. It's a lazy Saturday for me so I actually had the time to watch the battery charge. For background info, I am using CM6RC2 and Snap 7.01 with the Seidio 3500 battery.
I let my battery deplete completely last night and woke up to charge it. Knowing full well that the Evo does not charge the battery correctly, I did some research into how I could properly monitor the charge on my own. What we are basically looking to do is to charge the battery to or close to 4.2v. You can monitor this yourself using any battery monitoring program. I was using spare parts.
What I saw was, the battery would charge to what the Evo thought was 100 or close to 100 for the stock 1500 battery, the green light came on and the reporting stats of charge/voltage stopped there. The phone was reporting a constant charge of 100 and the voltage froze at 3.9v despite the fact that the battery was actually charged to around 60-65%. These numbers froze there for a long period of time. The 100/green light never went away and the freeze in voltage reporting lasted about 1+ hours. The freeze at 3.9v was basically the OS reporting the 3.9v in error because it still was thinking that the stock battery was in the phone. The actual battery charge level was neither 100 nor 3.9 volts. Like I said, the voltage stayed at 3.9 for a while, lets say an hour+, and then it started charging up again to 4.2. I saw all of this happen in spare parts. The highest I saw the voltage get was 4207. It took around 5 hours to get to this point. Once it was close enough to 4.2, I rebooted into recovery and wiped my battery stats using Clockwork. On reboot, the battery was actually around 95%. Now I could have plugged the phone back in and repeated they process above but, as this point I basically gave up knowing that I couldn't really go through this type of process ever again because I never have time to sit there and watch a battery charge.
So back to point of this post, we need someone to find a way to have the Evo report true battery stats for extended batteries and not continually have the phone think that it is charging the stock battery. I don't know if it can be done in an app, in a rom, or in a kernel but, however we can get this done, it would be more than amazing.
I have never had a problem with my 3500 Seidio Battery in terms of charging.
I have never had less than 90% charge when I leave for work. But as it has been pointed out multiple times, this phone charges till 100% and then works off the battery until it hits 90%. In essence, this phone will never be charged to 100% unless you do it while turned off or quite possibly with the battery out of the phone.
Next time you think you don't have a full charge, take it off the charger, turn it off and then back on. Then stick it back on the charger, you will see that the charge is down to say.... 93% then it should start charging again. But too be honest, on a 3500mAh Battery, I really don't see the need. If you really need 100%, the best way to achieve this is with the phone turned off.
there are people in evo forums across the net that would donate en masse for this once word spreads. if it needs to be unique to each battery, the four most used are stock, 1750, 3000 chinese (what I have), and 3500 seidio. I would definitely donate for a true fix
Brutal-Force said:
I have never had a problem with my 3500 Seidio Battery in terms of charging.
I have never had less than 90% charge when I leave for work. But as it has been pointed out multiple times, this phone charges till 100% and then works off the battery until it hits 90%. In essence, this phone will never be charged to 100% unless you do it while turned off or quite possibly with the battery out of the phone.
Next time you think you don't have a full charge, take it off the charger, turn it off and then back on. Then stick it back on the charger, you will see that the charge is down to say.... 93% then it should start charging again. But too be honest, on a 3500mAh Battery, I really don't see the need. If you really need 100%, the best way to achieve this is with the phone turned off.
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I assume that you keep your phone charging all night?
If so, this isn't really for people who do that. This is more for people looking to charger their phone to at or near 100 on the go, at work, etc.
Also, 10% on the extended battery is probably a difference of at least an hour more battery. I'd say even more. That's a lot of time to me personally.
cabbieBot said:
there are people in evo forums across the net that would donate en masse for this once word spreads. if it needs to be unique to each battery, the four most used are stock, 1750, 3000 chinese (what I have), and 3500 seidio. I would definitely donate for a true fix
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Agreed. I'd rather donate money to a true fix than buy an external charger. I have funds to donate for this READY TO GO ASAP.
I think this is a firmware related issue.. I cannot count how many posts and different senarios (batteries, chargers, rom's) I have read, yet still this issue remains. The only things I have ran across that actually works is:
1. Charging the battery externally (wall charger, dock, or etc)
2. Charging phone while phone is turned off.
3. Bump charging (aka: battery conditioning, battery syncing, "plug/unplug method")
4. Clearing the battery stats
Just wondered how most people are charging there One X? Personally I always turn it off and allow it to charge until the light goes green. I've never charged it when it's still been turned on.
I've never switched off any of my android phone's whilst charging. What happens if you get a call? I also try to alternate between charging on my pc and the wall charger.
Maximus78 said:
I've never switched off any of my android phone's whilst charging. What happens if you get a call? I also try to alternate between charging on my pc and the wall charger.
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Yeah fair statement, I had thought about that. I wasn't sure if it was bad to say plug the phone in at 11pm until 7am (8 hours) charging whilst it being turned on? I assumed if it was going to be plugged in say for that long that you should turn it off.
I just plug it in - went to bed on 80% last night but fair enough I'd hardly used the phone all day (standby battery life is incredible)
EddyOS said:
I just plug it in - went to bed on 80% last night but fair enough I'd hardly used the phone all day (standby battery life is incredible)
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So you stuck it on charge just to boost that extra 20% yeah? How come you didn't just leave it until it was low?
Should of asked if people would partially charge it or if they always ensure its fully charged.. Can't amend the poll now though.
I was thinking about trying that - might do that tonight and see how it lasts...
I plug it in to a usb cable
i charge my hox every night on the wall charger while turned on. even if it has 80% left. i am to afraid that my battery level goes under 20% (i heard that falling under that level can damage batteries).
N3m3515 said:
i charge my hox every night on the wall charger while turned on. even if it has 80% left. i am to afraid that my battery level goes under 20% (i heard that falling under that level can damage batteries).
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Where did you hear that? Mines dropped to 14% before and I then turned it off and charged it and the battery still seems fine. Wasn't aware you could damage the battery if it got too low...
I killed my battery first 2 charges - never have in the past but thought I would this time
I have always charged with the phone on, all my phones since way back having an analogue Nokia mobile and never had any battery issues. Only time I have ever switched my phones off is if I was getting on a plane or the battery got really low and didn't want it to go completely flat.
Just plug it in whenever. Modern li-poly batteries doesn't have memory and charge cycle life is based on full charges.
Part charges actually increase life due to low % cycling
tsleng said:
Just plug it in whenever. Modern li-poly batteries doesn't have memory and charge cycle life is based on full charges.
Part charges actually increase life due to low % cycling
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Agreed.
One thing to note is that you should never let it completely drain the battery, the phone will switch itself off once the battery reaches critical level then it needs a charge. I'd recommend charging it when it reaches 5-15%.
Also I'd never leave it charging over night it interrupts the cycle, if I have to charge it over night I set an alarm to go of after a few hours and unplug it.
i have 3 or 4 charges from different makes-and only htc charges the quickest. the worst is usb cable and car charger. but due to usage i need to charge twice a day
Maximus78 said:
Also I'd never leave it charging over night it interrupts the cycle, if I have to charge it over night I set an alarm to go of after a few hours and unplug it.
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Dude...
I always charge overnight - purely for convenience really.
Can you explain the above to me? I'm not sure what you mean by it interupts the cycle?
How does it effect the battery ?
Thanks alot
Dean
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Just plug it in whenever. Modern li-poly batteries doesn't have memory and charge cycle life is based on full charges.
Part charges actually increase life due to low % cycling
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You are 100% right most modern phone battery’s don’t have memory any more so no need to worry about it, and no need to do full discharge and recharge cycles to maintain battery health, and if they do they normally tell you in warning labels or in instruction manuals, for example I recently bought a new shaver and it tells you to do a full discharge and then leave it on charge for at least 12 hours every 3 months to maintain battery life.
N3m3515 said:
i charge my hox every night on the wall charger while turned on. even if it has 80% left. i am to afraid that my battery level goes under 20% (i heard that falling under that level can damage batteries).
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batteries have safety features built in so don't worry. What for you looks like 0-1% left - what android is showing you, might be actually 10-20% as seen internally by the battery.
Also, I have completely discharged my phone once, I simply left it at 1% and waited until it shut off. Then I charged to 100%. From then on, I charge whenever I want, phone is always ON.
Ebay 2m cable (the HTC one's length is a joke).
I use a charging cable.
My friend sticks it next to his head and uses his brainwaves to charge it.
Both seem to work fine.
Im really sorry for this post. I could not resist.
You guys are ridiculous. Just plug the phone in and it charges.
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My doze doesn't seem to be activating at night. Moto display turned off. I'm losing about 10% while sleeping which seems like a lot considering my s8 plus lost about half that with always on display on...
I'm also losing about 7% per hour and getting about 3hrs screen time per charge. I noticed a decrease in efficiency possibly after buying and using the Incipio wireless charging battery moto mod.
You can't judge battery drain from 100-90% once it goes below 88% that is when you get true readings. If you unplug your phone at the high 90's the charging algorithm could have had it at 92% and over those hours it just equalized itself.
I.E. I had my phone at 99% charge on the charger for an hour or two while using. The phone will still show 99% but the battery isn't getting a trickle to stay at 99% it will not get power and drop to roughly 91-93% depending on kernel then charge back up to help battery longevity but the system will still show 99% to not make the average user freak out over their battery level dropping while charged. There was a in depth post about this years ago on this site. Too lazy to search and post, but it is a simple search.
Edit: here you go, found it. It's a great read.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
It is a good read but not really what I am talking about. I never leave my phone on my charger at night. I charge to 100% before I go to sleep and sometimes I use for hour or two before bed. So the drain I am experiencing can't really be related to a false reading due to changing currents after a long time on the charger. Sometimes it's down to 70-80% by time I go to sleep and I am still losing that amount in drain. Dozing doesn't appear in my charts at all at night so it appears the phone is never truly dozing... But hey, I'm not a genius about all this, I just know it's not dozing and my cycles in gsam suck for an 835 processor phone even taking into account the smaller battery.
My buddy just made a good point... If I am sleeping with the battery mod connected, even if it's not "charging" maybe the connection makes the phone"think" it's charging and not doze? I'll have to test that tonight.
Chrisy8s said:
My buddy just made a good point... If I am sleeping with the battery mod connected, even if it's not "charging" maybe the connection makes the phone"think" it's charging and not doze? I'll have to test that tonight.
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That makes sense and I was just going off the image showing 100-92 drain. I wouldn't have a mod on if you're not using it, it can cause drain.
I have been a fan of wireless charging for many years since my LG G4,
with the optional, QI charging rear case,
As the F3 lacks QI charging, i have been struggling to find a compatible charging receiver,
after buying 2 incompatible charging receivers, the black type with qi printing in the middle, from a well known UK auction site.
I thought I would try ALI, as i buy bits from there and came across this type in the photo,
and I can confirm it works a treat.
I use my F3 in a flip case and the receiver is still working up to a depth of 5mm.
Buying this QI charging receiver means Less wear and tear on the charge socket
and also helps a bit with water proofing and protects the socket from Dirt & Fluff
Could you link the item you bought from Ali that worked?
LilBlinx said:
Could you link the item you bought from Ali that worked?
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Hi,
I have just updated my post,
Cheers
How much time do you need 2 charge a full battery ?
Hi,
I have just checked Accubattery and a 30% charge (30 to 60% / 1.209 ma) took, 1hr 22m and this only achieved 0.04 battery wear cycles using a Swalle 5w wireless charger,
this is perfect for me
regards
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am a low phone user and find that a 60% charge lasts me around 8 hours before I hit 30%.
I use a brilliant program called Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA) , that keeps my phone nicely topped up between 30 & 60%, i have just checked Accubattery and a 30% charge (30 to 60% / 1.209 ma) took, 1hr 22m and this only achieved 0.04 battery wear cycles, this is perfect for me
regards
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You need to read more user feedback lol
It's not recommended to be using it on xiaomi phones.
The chip in charge of charging will eventually die ( get corrupted or whatev ) and the phone becomes permanently bricked.
Aosp rom's experimented with it few months back , then fully removed it soon after reports came in.
Rstment ^m^ said:
You need to read more user feedback lol
It's not recommended to be using it on xiaomi phones.
The chip in charge of charging will eventually die ( get corrupted or whatev ) and the phone becomes permanently bricked.
Aosp rom's experimented with it few months back , then fully removed it soon after reports came in.
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Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
johnr64 said:
Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
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You do you man xd...
Not something I wanna mess with at all , I've experienced plenty amount of times having the phone discharge while plugged in with that app installed.
Even when I go to bed and leave the phone plugged in , I wake up and battery is 40-50% lower than what it was the night before... I had 2/3 nights of wondering did I forget to plug the phone and sleepwalk into plugging it in few minutes before waking up?
It's crazy bad on this phone , If I was to ever use it for something that would be to disable battery charging altogether and power the phone fully from outlet when in use - but that toggle doesn't work either xd
I see no use in it , more trouble than good in using it. This is a really shet phone , one that I don't see myself using for long.
Rstment ^m^ said:
You do you man xd...
Not something I wanna mess with at all , I've experienced plenty amount of times having the phone discharge while plugged in with that app installed.
Even when I go to bed and leave the phone plugged in , I wake up and battery is 40-50% lower than what it was the night before... I had 2/3 nights of wondering did I forget to plug the phone and sleepwalk into plugging it in few minutes before waking up?
It's crazy bad on this phone , If I was to ever use it for something that would be to disable battery charging altogether and power the phone fully from outlet when in use - but that toggle doesn't work either xd
I see no use in it , more trouble than good in using it. This is a really shet phone , one that I don't see myself using for long.
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Thank you for your Update,
i don`t charge my phone overnight,
i will edit my listing in case anyone else faces your issue,
with new android updates, SMART CHARGING might be available for all phones and hopefully the devs can make it compatible with the F3.
Samsung already has this function working on some of their phones,
Cheers
johnr64 said:
Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
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i agree the charging chip might suffer if u set too many parameters, I personally use a charging limit set to 80% and leave everything else as default that should extend battery health and protect it from overcharging or staying on 100% plugged in, but I turn it off at least once a month and charge it fully.
Thanks for the tip, just received the linked receiver and it works for me as well.
Also tried two others before (generic one with "Type C" printed on it and one from Nillkin), neither worked. After finding this thread, I decided to gave it one last try.
Interesting detail: while trying to get the other two to work, I tried connecting them through a USB-C power tester and... it started to charge.
msylw said:
Thanks for the tip, just received the linked receiver and it works for me as well.
Also tried two others before (generic one with "Type C" printed on it and one from Nillkin), neither worked. After finding this thread, I decided to gave it one last try.
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Hi,
I am glad i could help,
for all the ACCA Doubters, my F3 has been happily charging between 35% & 60% for the last 4 weeks and i have not had any issues with my phone not turning on.
I've been looking for many years for the ultimate battery charging app that restricts my phone from charging to 100%, to save on battery cycles and thus keeping my battery in tip top condition,
I can confirm that ACCA Nailed it.
For those of you that are interested in maintaining your battery,
this is how my F3 is setup,
I use the brilliant Descendant Rom V1921, rooted with Magisk for ACCA,
Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA),
also Accubattery to monitor battery cycles and Battery alarm by Zoran Vujacic, this warns me regarding my battery levels,
both apps are available from the Play store.
I set Battery alarm to warn me when my battery drops below 25% and above 60% i also use Accubattery to monitor my battery health and keep an eye on my charge cycles.
I charge my phone between 35% and 60%, acuubattery reports that i have only used 0.003 cycles, (this lasts me around 8 hours).
REGARDING ACCA
Do not let your phone charge drop to 0%, otherwise you may not be able to charge or turn your phone on, this issue has been reported using other xiaomi phones and roms.
Use ACCA at your own risk,
again i hope this helps someone,
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am glad i could help,
for all the ACCA Doubters, my F3 has been happily charging between 35% & 60% for the last 4 weeks and i have not had any issues with my phone not turning on.
I've been looking for many years for the ultimate battery charging app that restricts my phone from charging to 100%, to save on battery cycles and thus keeping my battery in tip top condition,
I can confirm that ACCA Nailed it.
For those of you that are interested in maintaining your battery,
this is how my F3 is setup,
I use the brilliant Descendant Rom V1921, rooted with Magisk for ACCA,
Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA),
also Accubattery to monitor battery cycles and Battery alarm by Zoran Vujacic, this warns me regarding my battery levels,
both apps are available from the Play store.
I set Battery alarm to warn me when my battery drops below 25% and above 60% i also use Accubattery to monitor my battery health and keep an eye on my charge cycles.
I charge my phone between 35% and 60%, acuubattery reports that i have only used 0.003 cycles, (this lasts me around 8 hours).
REGARDING ACCA
Do not let your phone charge drop to 0%, otherwise you may not be able to charge or turn your phone on, this issue has been reported using other xiaomi phones and roms.
Use ACCA at your own risk,
again i hope this helps someone,
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What charging switch are you using? And did you able to change voltage and current?
finalgravity525 said:
What charging switch are you using? And did you able to change voltage and current?
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Hi,
I use Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA) as in my previous post, i don`t use Voltage/Current limit functions, i just set the maximum charge limit.
ACCA is a Software only based charging app, it requires Root access for it to work, i have attached some screen shots of ACCA, as you can see it has lots of useful functions.
I have also attached pictures of my slightly modified QI Wireless receiver, i did this by putting aluminium foil around the receiver to dissipate a little bit more heat.
As my phone is in a clam style case and with the warmer weather slowly on its way, anything to help the QI receiver with heat has to be a good thing, especially as the receiver is in close proximity to the F3`s Li-ion battery.
I hope this helps
Bought 2 of them (in case of) from this ali vendor and I can confirm it works fine with the F3, thanks OP
It works at full 1A/5W
EDIT: one of the receiver does not work anymore, tested with different chargers/phones :-/