Meet U event in NY - HTC U12+ Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi guys I'm going to the HTC Meet U event on Wednesday in NY or would be nice to meet with some fellows HTC fans there if anyone here is going to the event and would like to meet that would be awesome!!!
https://www.facebook.com/events/449804178806883/?ti=as

Thanks for the reminder - just got there before the end. After I was told these unlocked ones are essentially the same as any "provider-certified" ones I boughta translucent blue and tested Wi-Fi calling with my TMO SIM - it worked righ out of the box.
Hey, I came home with a U12+ in that fancy box plus some swag, two weeks before it starts shipping.

szlevi said:
Thanks for the reminder - just got there before the end. After I was told these unlocked ones are essentially the same as any "provider-certified" ones I boughta translucent blue and tested Wi-Fi calling with my TMO SIM - it worked righ out of the box.
Hey, I came home with a U12+ in that fancy box plus some swag, two weeks before it starts shipping.
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Where's the pics and impressions!?!

eallan said:
Where's the pics and impressions!?!
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Well, pics are here: https://www.facebook.com/events/449804178806883/
My impression so far is great, the more I use the phone I'm more and more glad I didn't procrastinate at all but jumped into it at this early chance... such an awesome phone!
Screen is great including *direct* sunlight, I've migrated over around more than 35,000 messages (80% SMS, rest are MMS), ~8,000 contatcs, a 500+ call history and so on - and it's still lightning fast no matter what I throw at it.
The squeezing thing is something I have yet to configure, turning up and down the volume with the 'fake' buttons is a bit unusual for me but it's probably because my old phone's buttons were so beaten I had to barely touch to activate them. Same thing with turning off screen, it's slightly more effort compared to my old beaten one's button so I just added a "screen off" fourth button to the primary bottom Android buttons.
Sound is *very-very* good, the included headphones are *awesome*, very good noise cancelling etc - this easily compensates for not having a dedicated jack anymore.
When using built-in speakers there is a very pronounced difference between *Music* and *Theater* - latter is very good for movies, really lifts out the dialogs.
The included charger is QC 3.0 which means you get to charged from almost zero to two-third in 30 minutes (official blurb is 80% in 35 minutes.)
However U12+ itself support QC 4.0 which suppose to give you 50% charge in 5 minutes so my first investment will be a strong (60W and up) QC 4.0 charger like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Tenker-Adapter-Macbook-Nintendo/dp/B0789F6FNG
I'll add more later, during the weekend I will have more time to test the camera etc.

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Hacking the Sony Liveview

Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.
Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back
So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...
Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\
Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.
nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less
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Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
nerys71 said:
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you
2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...
openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview
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I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.

Ordered a ZL and have a few questions

I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
The expandable storage and near-stock UI is what made me select this device over the HTC One and Samsung GS4!
Additionally, this forum is pretty slow. Hopefully, the release of the ZL in Canada today should bring some folks over.
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I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
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Yes, as long as it is formatted as FAT.
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- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
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Image quality is a hit and miss. You may get a good picture, take the exact same shot the next second, and the quality may not turn out as good. I suspect the camera software is at fault.
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- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
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Light usage (~1 hour of screen on-time): Yes
Moderate usage (~3 hours of screen on-time): Depends on application. Gaming/Video streaming or running at 70%+ brightness constantly? Probably not.
Heavy usage (5+ hours of screen on-time): No.
rajeshr said:
I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
The expandable storage and near-stock UI is what made me select this device over the HTC One and Samsung GS4!
Additionally, this forum is pretty slow. Hopefully, the release of the ZL in Canada today should bring some folks over.
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1. 64GB uSD works perfectly well. AND the phone does not end up corrupting your cards like the Samsung phones do. Pick up one of them Sandisk Ultra Pro cards and you'll be a happy camper.
2. Can't comment, never use camera on a phone. Its pointless IMO unless you have something like the Nokia 808
3. I constantly get 4+ (almost 5) hours of screen on time. Auto brightness, an equal mix of gaming, browsing (on HSPA), IM'img and calling, about an hour of GPS Sports tracking and music. I am really happy with the battery life. Takes me through the day without any hiccups.
The development of the ZL will pick up, but don't hold your breath. A couple of good ROMs is all I can see coming for this phone. The GS4 is going to take all the limelight in spite of all its mediocrity.
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1. 64GB uSD works perfectly well. AND the phone does not end up corrupting your cards like the Samsung phones do. Pick up one of them Sandisk Ultra Pro cards and you'll be a happy camper.
3. I constantly get 4+ (almost 5) hours of screen on time. Auto brightness, an equal mix of gaming, browsing (on HSPA), IM'img and calling. I am really happy with the battery life. Takes me through the day without any hiccups.
The development of the ZL will pick up, but don't hold your breath. A couple of good ROMs is all I can see coming for this phone. The GS4 is going to take all the limelight in spite of all its mediocrity.
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I fully agree with what's said above. About the ZL camera here are my thoughts (post #13&16). For battery life see here (post #3&5).
Sd card has to be formatted to fat32? Cuz its not a working on mine.
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Sd card has to be formatted to fat32? Cuz its not a working on mine.
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Yes, 32 kB cluster. I would try to let the phone do it if it is able to detect the card inserted.
Canceled my order from shopblt and bought it direct from Rogers. At least I get 14 days to try it out - if I don't like it, I can return it. Just charging it right now, so I don't have too many initial thoughts. So far the size seems fine and I do like the textured back. The 64GB card also seems to work, so that is good.
Thanks to all for the help provided. I'll definitely check out the camera settings and see what happens in my case.
More feedback after a day of usage:
- Feels great in the hand, and the textured back helps you grip the phone firmly. Size is right for me.
- Build quality is outstanding. Don't know who came up with the design of the SIM/SD card cover as that is the only weak point there.
- Screen looks amazing head on. As you angle it away, it starts washing out fairly quickly. If I leave it on my desk while working, I cannot read much of the text unless I pick it up. It is pretty annoying have to pick it up all the time to read my incoming emails/text etc.
- The camera is awful. I've adjusted the settings manually, but the photos come out so soft.
- It seems like the LTE radio is weak. I get little to no signal in locations where I get a medium strength signal with the GS3 or the HTC 8X.
- Call quality is fine - nothing great, and nothing too bad either.
- Battery life seems fine - doesn't seem to deteriorate too rapidly even on LTE.
Between the display & camera issues, I may be tempted to go back the S3 for some time and wait to check out the GS IV or the HTC One X. I'll try it out another week or so and see if I can get used to it.
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More feedback after a day of usage:
- Feels great in the hand, and the textured back helps you grip the phone firmly. Size is right for me.
- Build quality is outstanding. Don't know who came up with the design of the SIM/SD card cover as that is the only weak point there.
- Screen looks amazing head on. As you angle it away, it starts washing out fairly quickly. If I leave it on my desk while working, I cannot read much of the text unless I pick it up. It is pretty annoying have to pick it up all the time to read my incoming emails/text etc.
- The camera is awful. I've adjusted the settings manually, but the photos come out so soft.
- It seems like the LTE radio is weak. I get little to no signal in locations where I get a medium strength signal with the GS3 or the HTC 8X.
- Call quality is fine - nothing great, and nothing too bad either.
- Battery life seems fine - doesn't seem to deteriorate too rapidly even on LTE.
Between the display & camera issues, I may be tempted to go back the S3 for some time and wait to check out the GS IV or the HTC One X. I'll try it out another week or so and see if I can get used to it.
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I picked the phone up yesterday when a retailer near me finally had one (none on tuesday)
and I agree the feels good in the hand, gives you a confidence that my Arc just didn't have
I don't see the SD/SIM cover a weak point, how often are you really opening that up?
as far as angling the phone away, it's sitting on the desk beside me right now and I can see everything just fine, I have 74% battery left and it's 11:56pm. it's -8 outside and feels like -9... I could read anything just fine from here
haven't really tested the camera out, but that wasn't a selling feature for me so not a big deal
I'm unable to get any LTE signal in Winnipeg, but I"m going to attribute that to Rogers not having LTE service anywhere in Manitoba...
Call quality seems pretty good, the one call I made worked out just fine
Battery seems to last a good long while, however it seems that charging the phone through USB (not the wall charger) is nearly impossible if the screen is on.
With the display issues, I remember seeing that Sony put screens from two different manufacturers in the phones, have you checked to see which one you have? I think I saw a thread around here with instructions for how to find the info, I'll see if I can find it.
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I picked the phone up yesterday when a retailer near me finally had one (none on tuesday)
and I agree the feels good in the hand, gives you a confidence that my Arc just didn't have
I don't see the SD/SIM cover a weak point, how often are you really opening that up?
as far as angling the phone away, it's sitting on the desk beside me right now and I can see everything just fine, I have 74% battery left and it's 11:56pm. it's -8 outside and feels like -9... I could read anything just fine from here
haven't really tested the camera out, but that wasn't a selling feature for me so not a big deal
I'm unable to get any LTE signal in Winnipeg, but I"m going to attribute that to Rogers not having LTE service anywhere in Manitoba...
Call quality seems pretty good, the one call I made worked out just fine
Battery seems to last a good long while, however it seems that charging the phone through USB (not the wall charger) is nearly impossible if the screen is on.
With the display issues, I remember seeing that Sony put screens from two different manufacturers in the phones, have you checked to see which one you have? I think I saw a thread around here with instructions for how to find the info, I'll see if I can find it.
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Mine is the Sharp panel. But the display is horrible off-angle, so much so that I contemplating returning the phone.
No problem here. Reads fine off angle. I wonder whether you got bad one....
Sendt fra min ZL 6506
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Mine is the Sharp panel. But the display is horrible off-angle, so much so that I contemplating returning the phone.
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I agree.
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No problem here. Reads fine off angle. I wonder whether you got bad one....
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Even though I dont have 'problems' reading text off angle (which BTW, I rarely find myself doing), the washout is undeniable. Makes it seem that the phone has a cheap knockoff panel. When your main point of advertizing is the amazing screen to body ratio, one would think a top quality panel would be the priority.
Finally, I gave up on the phone. For a device that cost me $750 (hardware purchase + taxes), the issues were enough for me to return the phone. It is a promising device, but a couple of key issues made me want to return it.
- The display: Great head-on, every other viewing angle is terrible.
- Camera: The images are rather soft. I would assume this could be fixed by firmware, but I'm not going wait for it. I've been burned in the past by other Android manufacturers promising these kinds of fixes.
- Weak LTE signal compared to the other phones.
I think I'll wait and see how the HTC One or the Samsung GS IV turn out - till then I'll use my GS III or BB Z10.
Too bad, Sony! The ZL had tremendous potential, but it just wasn't for me!
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Finally, I gave up on the phone. For a device that cost me $750 (hardware purchase + taxes), the issues were enough for me to return the phone. It is a promising device, but a couple of key issues made me want to return it.
- The display: Great head-on, every other viewing angle is terrible.
- Camera: The images are rather soft. I would assume this could be fixed by firmware, but I'm not going wait for it. I've been burned in the past by other Android manufacturers promising these kinds of fixes.
- Weak LTE signal compared to the other phones.
I think I'll wait and see how the HTC One or the Samsung GS IV turn out - till then I'll use my GS III or BB Z10.
Too bad, Sony! The ZL had tremendous potential, but it just wasn't for me!
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Sorry it didnt work out for ya. Having the S3 which is a perfectly capable device, I dont see a reason to switch to GS4. Maybe wait for the next Nexus? Off topic, how do you like the Z10?
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Sorry it didnt work out for ya. Having the S3 which is a perfectly capable device, I dont see a reason to switch to GS4. Maybe wait for the next Nexus? Off topic, how do you like the Z10?
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I really like the Z10 - the size is perfect (I personally think 4.2" is the perfect size), the Hub is an awesome idea, call quality is amazing and the battery life is only second to the RAZR HD. A couple of things let it down - only eight running apps are allowed; no 3rd party apps can hook into the hub. It is also let down by the lack of apps - most people are aware of this prior to buying the phone, but it's even worse once you use the phone for a little time. Most apps are ports of Android and the UI paradigm is really different. If more developers migrated to BB, it might help improve the viability of BB.

If you recieved your Oppo Find 7 - share first impressions here

Hi
For the receivers of the very fist batch that should be arriving to your door step please share your first impressions / photos / videos
I pre ordered the second batch, to be dispatched around may 16th.
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I've got the phone since Friday now (3rd day) and it's a great phone.
+ Recharge, overall quality, screen, feel in the hand, amazing speakers.
- Fast drain on batery, yellow tint on the bottom of the screen (as many others)
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Phone quality is great
Speakers are loud and crisp
Fast charge is an added bonus.
Camera shutter is instant.
No yellow tint
Buggy OS:
-Sometimes ColorOS reverts my changed settings.
-Phone mutes all notification sounds after a restart.
Dead pixel on far right, the dead pixel is so darn small it's not even noticeable unless you thoroughly search for a dead pixel.
have you guys tried Beta 2.0 of color OS ?
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have you guys tried Beta 2.0 of color OS ?
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Yes, i'm running 2.0 from the start.
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yellow tint on the bottom of the screen (as many others)
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have you contacted oppostyle for the replacement of the phone due to this yellow tint ?
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have you contacted oppostyle for the replacement of the phone due to this yellow tint ?
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No i have not. It's not much, but it is there...
I got mine on Friday ( 2nd). So far I really like the phone. Same as others have said....
Pros:
Fast charging times
speakers sound quality are really quite good ( this was a bonus for me)
very responsive
lots of theme options
feels like a large Nexus 5 to me.
Cons:
Color OS takes some getting used to
viewing angles are a little washed out ( not as good as my M8 or note 3)
idle time on battery needs some tweaking
Overall I am glad I purchased the 7a.
The os is pretty much in an early alpha state and requires a few more updates to actually be fully usable.
Some features suck battery like it's cotton candy, but the superb sound and awesome screen make up for it.
If you wish to make it through a day on one charge then turn everything you don't need off and change the lock screen because the normal lock screen is glitched and drains your battery on standby.
Overall it's a great device with a not so great operating system.
But people like entropy are already working on the first custom ROMs so that should be handled soon.
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Received mine last Monday, started playing with it Tuesday, got a sim for it Wednesday.
I'll preface this by stating I'm coming from a 3 year old HTC Inspire 4g so if somethings seem "wrong" well it's light years difference between the Inspire and this Oppo Find 7a
My first suggestion would be to put the 2.0 beta on it, been running it since yesterday and so far I think it "feels" more stable than the 1.2.x that comes with the phone. Most importantly I haven't had a single SD issue since updating to 2.0b.
Sound/speakers are amazing. Granted I'm no audiophile but considering my other 2 devices, HTC Inspire 4g and HP Touchpad, this sounds night and day better than both.
Speed is blazing, again though I am coming from a 3 year old phone (single core).
Battery life is great for me even from the start. Even w/o comparing it to the abysmal life of my previous device I'd still consider this good.
No yellow tint for me so can't comment on that
The phone is light as heck and the size is great. I thought I'd have problems since I have such small hands but none to speak of.
Downside is no custom rom yet and as I'm used to CM the features and nomenclature are different and a bit annoying having to think about doing something where as I'm used to being able to just do it.
An annoying thing is the flip case that came with the preorder turns the screen on/off which seems like a great idea, it's just implemented wrong. When I put my phone in the cubby hole in my truck the screen turning on and off is distracting. I've read others are discovering it's turning on and off in their pockets too.
No LTE for me until I "backdoor" it since AT&T doesn't recognize this device. I registered it and got a new sim twice and my account still shows that I'm on my Inspire 4g. Granted I don't use a lot of data so not really a priority, but still would be nice to have it even if I don't use it all that much. Then again with the speed and battery life of this phone that might change.
Got mine Friday. Love the screen size and colours, the overall built quality, the sound of the speakers and the fastcharging.
I am on a rooted ColorOS 2.0 (International) Beta and I must admit I actually like it's clean look and feel. I will probably go for a custom kernel and rom in the long run though.
I do not like the white back, not much grip for me and I really hate the pleather case that came with it.
The batery drain is also a minor problem for me.
Overall it's still the best phone I owned and I recommend it (unless you have really tiny hands)
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Got mine Friday. Love the screen size and colours, the overall built quality, the sound of the speakers and the fastcharging.
I am on a rooted ColorOS 2.0 (International) Beta and I must admit I actually like it's clean look and feel. I will probably go for a custom kernel and rom in the long run though.
I do not like the white back, not much grip for me and I really hate the pleather case that came with it.
The batery drain is also a minor problem for me.
Overall it's still the best phone I owned and I recommend it (unless you have really tiny hands)
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Is ColorOS 2.0 a big difference than what it came with? I am currently on V1.20i. Ive been holding off from rooting until I start seeing some real ROM action.
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Is ColorOS 2.0 a big difference than what it came with? I am currently on V1.20i. Ive been holding off from rooting until I start seeing some real ROM action.
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Screen seems to react a little quicker to touch. 2.0 seems a crisper and smoother rom. I really love the blurr effect. Voice wakeup und Live Weather 2.0 are also pretty nice.
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Chevyguy85 said:
Received mine last Monday, started playing with it Tuesday, got a sim for it Wednesday.
I'll preface this by stating I'm coming from a 3 year old HTC Inspire 4g so if somethings seem "wrong" well it's light years difference between the Inspire and this Oppo Find 7a
My first suggestion would be to put the 2.0 beta on it, been running it since yesterday and so far I think it "feels" more stable than the 1.2.x that comes with the phone. Most importantly I haven't had a single SD issue since updating to 2.0b.
Sound/speakers are amazing. Granted I'm no audiophile but considering my other 2 devices, HTC Inspire 4g and HP Touchpad, this sounds night and day better than both.
Speed is blazing, again though I am coming from a 3 year old phone (single core).
Battery life is great for me even from the start. Even w/o comparing it to the abysmal life of my previous device I'd still consider this good.
No yellow tint for me so can't comment on that
The phone is light as heck and the size is great. I thought I'd have problems since I have such small hands but none to speak of.
Downside is no custom rom yet and as I'm used to CM the features and nomenclature are different and a bit annoying having to think about doing something where as I'm used to being able to just do it.
An annoying thing is the flip case that came with the preorder turns the screen on/off which seems like a great idea, it's just implemented wrong. When I put my phone in the cubby hole in my truck the screen turning on and off is distracting. I've read others are discovering it's turning on and off in their pockets too.
No LTE for me until I "backdoor" it since AT&T doesn't recognize this device. I registered it and got a new sim twice and my account still shows that I'm on my Inspire 4g. Granted I don't use a lot of data so not really a priority, but still would be nice to have it even if I don't use it all that much. Then again with the speed and battery life of this phone that might change.
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LTE works great if you give them an IMEI from a 4G phone like a Nexus 5. Just call ATT and have them change your IMEI, presto... your LTE will work like a champ!
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LTE works great if you give them an IMEI from a 4G phone like a Nexus 5. Just call ATT and have them change your IMEI, presto... your LTE will work like a champ!
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I had an 4g phone, but not a LTE phone. I gotta borrow a friend's phone one day and do that, eventually.
Solid build but buttons are little bit hard to press IMO.
Great screen. Very bright though. Camera is good.
Color OS features are nice but there is one bug with cellular network battery usage. I think it doesn't go into deep sleep because of it and drains battery on standby mode especially if you have screen off gesture on. If you turn this feature off, it's a lot better. I do not have yellow tint problem.
I wish we can swap back plates like One Plus. I like to use my phone without cover and the back plate is white.
The touch is very responsive. I have to change Touch & hold delay to medium to prevent accidental click while scrolling. Then again, I'm using a screen protector which comes with the phone and it might be the screen protector problem.
The speaker is loud. Really really loud. I am HTC M7 user and I think Find 7 speaker is better than M7.
best phone I ever had.
hardware: Impressive built quality, awsome gorilla glass with almost perfect touch (but I had to remove that **** of screen protector that killed touch sensitive), conversation quality is like havin ur friend talkin beside you and it get signal where other phones die.
software: I m using colorOS 1.2i, it has lacks of some feature, but it sports everything you really need and it does it fast and easy to use. It's like a stock android with kool features. Never had bug like force closing of apps....for me it's much better to use than a touchwiz and I feel like I m using a reactive nexus or a cooked rom.
camera: should I spend words? no...it's the best, there's no competion. it doesnt have any gimmick feature like htc zoe..but it's so easy and fast to find the settings u need, just shoot! and pics are nearly professional.
loudspeaker: it's in gods arena, beside z2 and htc one. if htc m8 is the king in this way, find7a is a prince, and u ll be happy of having.
Battery drain: kernel and governor need to be fixed. I had a good 6% of drain when using it with lte and screen on, but I also had 5.5% in stand by mode. so....here it's how I fixed and now I get 1.5% in standby (tnx to Gsam and Wakelock apps):
-removed stock google news and wheater widget, it doesnt allow sleep mode and it drain 1.5% of battery per hour
-removed yahoo wheater app (removing just widget is unuseful)...saved other 1.5%
-WIFI advanced settings : everythin off but optimization wifi...saved another 1.5%
- I use pattern unlock mode, from ever, someone reported that using stock colorOS mode drains battery
I noticed that when switching off WIFI , 3g/4g connection is already on...never happened with other phones, they all took some seconds for 3g to be working, maybe this means connection drain battery as it never goes really off even when is under wifi? dunno..
something I didnt like , but doesnt matter:
-power button sucks, it s less than half millimeter, so it's very hard to push it. but I dont really care, I use double tap to lock and unlock it!
-back cover. it's good and has grip, nice color and wotever...but it's very very slim and flexible. due it's so slim, antenna works like a blackberry but I m afraid it will destroy itself easily, bcs it's already starting to be flexible at my touch.
-screen: awsome , color are very good, but a more calibrated temperature can improve it. it's not blueish like some reviewr says...but a better temperature could improve its gamma as well, that s very high (I used to calibrate televisions some years ago so I have a special look on screens). at a first look , find7a screen is like an LG g2 screen with a wrong calibration (but more realistic colors ).
-It arrived with a dead pixel , but it s impossible to notice it due it's a full-hd screen, so I really dont give a shot about it.
-yellow screen, there's a yellow ghost at the base of the screen for 2 millimeters...but believe me guyz, I v seen ppl going crazy on forums for this, It's something u can notice only on a completely white screen and if nobody tells u, your not going to see it! but if u love perfection, I can say that it went away after some days of usage...I m sure it's glue and it takes some days of warm screen to be fixed.
-optional case: tnx oppo to send me such a gift in real leather, but I trash it after 1h. software doesnt support this case, having it in my pocket means it opens itself and screen goes on, but when u close it , the screen stays on anyway. I have to open it to pick up a call! wtf! why does it have such a window if I have to open it???
-warranty: oppo policy in europe is to send the phone I dont know where in europe, they will send I dont where in china, someone I dunno will decide if I have to pay to repair the phone. anyway I will pay to ship it. Ok, I accept to save 300€ on s5, m8, z2...and get 1+ if I destroy my find7...
just my opnion, everyone has his needs, wot is good for me can be bad for u...
alexleon said:
best phone I ever had.
here it's how I fixed and now I get 1.5% in standby (tnx to Gsam and Wakelock apps):
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So what is standby time after your fixes? People complained that the phone drains 50% of battery over night. So if the phone can't keep charge for 2-3 days it is useless for me. I do not use phone lot, so always forget to charge, so I need 2-3 days at least and I am getting 5 days with my current Nexus One.
So apparently 2.0b didn't fix the SD card issue so I'm just going to put in my old 16gb Sandisk that I've been using for a year and half and see what it does. If it works then I'll just assume the card I was sent is faulty/fake. Read speeds are between 20-35 megabytes while copying stuff off of the card onto my hard drive so that seems a bit slowish?
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So apparently 2.0b didn't fix the SD card issue so I'm just going to put in my old 16gb Sandisk that I've been using for a year and half and see what it does. If it works then I'll just assume the card I was sent is faulty/fake. Read speeds are between 20-35 megabytes while copying stuff off of the card onto my hard drive so that seems a bit slowish?
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It seems like a lot of people are having problems with the SD cards purchased from Oppo. I wonder if they got a bad batch.

[Reviews] Oppo N3 Review Thread

Oppo N3 Review Thread​
Hey all
This thread is to collect the available reviews for the Oppo N3 into one place. Feel free to post reviews found on the web or when the device becomes available create your own:good: If anybody feels one should be added to the OP, please PM me. I'll kick off with a few i found on the net:highfive:​
Reviews/Previews
http://www.stuff.tv/oppo/oppo-n3/review
Stuff.tv Hands-on/Preview
http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/oppo-n3/
CNET - Hands-on​
Video Reviews/Previews
Android Authority - First Look​
Good And uPDATE
So Nice i See Specification .But Cost Some High
Review Quick and Dirty
Bought it today after comparing it with Mate 7 and here is my quick and dirty review:
Plus
+ very impressed by the motorised camera
use of o click: can control manually in small increments, on screen or through the o click;
+ sound quality and volume;
+ extremely fast camera focusing and shot to shot speed;
+ finger print scanner is good once i've figured out how to use it (and this coming from a person whose corporate finger print scanner cannot read mine...)
+ despite the weight of 192 g, it feels solid instead of heavy
+ without using the VOOC charger, charging speed is snail like; with the VOOC, it is really fast
+ O click pairs quickly and works very well (as compared to the previous version)
+ ps. heard from some reviewers that the camera head is loose but mine feels satisfactory. Some also mentioned about the rattling from the loose volume button, but mine seems fine too. Heng ah.
+ despite the many complaints about the faux leather over the camera/ear piece, after using it, I think i like this choice as it makes long conversation where I place my ear tightly next to the ear piece more comfortable. In short, it looks like a misfit, but it feels good when used.
+ Oh i love the gesture functions esppppppppppppppppp the double tap to wake, 3 fingers to screenshot
Minus
- crazy location of ear phone jack (though, fortunately, I use wireless earphones, so it is irrelevant.)
- coming from Note 4, somehow this screen looks small, although both are 5.5 inches
- mass storage option is gone (previously oppo had it right?)
- auto brightness is too aggressively dim indoors
In all, i think it is an excellent phone. However, at this price point, I don't think it'll move many pieces.
As compared to Mate 7, I think where Mate 7 trumps N3 is its screen to fascia ratio since Mate 7 doesn't have a rotating camera and uses on screen keyboard. However, i found mate 7 to be a tad unwieldy and the speaker to be too 'thin'/too shrill.
Largely agree with the above.
The good:
The phone is overpriced. I pre-ordered from OppoStyle and got a free VOOC battery pack, 32GB SD Card, and an iLike case for it, so the price of £430 actually felt ok, but without those freebies I'd feel a little bit ripped off, and that offer is gone now.
The camera is fabulous, only taken one selfie with it so far which was after a 4 day long course and 140 mile drive home, no makeup and really tired, but still somehow made me look good: http://lum.uk/temp/IMG20150122211859.jpg
The shutter speed on the camera is really fast too, so great for taking cat photos. http://www.imgur.com/p5dwFqR.jpeg
Dual-SIM on a flagship phone is wonderful. Work have me using a Blackberry Curve with a data bar on it and only Blackberry services allowed, so I've never been able to shove my work SIM into an Android and still get email before. Words cannot express how much I hate that Blackberry but I can't even dial on it without either using a pen to poke the keys, or end upbreaking a nail.
Color OS is actually surprisingly nice. This is the first Android I've owned where I haven't felt the need to immediately rip out the entire OS and replace it with Cyanogen or AOKP (My previous androids were an HTC Desire Z and a Motorola Droid 4). I've still had to replace the launcher with Nova Launcher though.
VOOC charging is really clever. I read a bit about how it works, the phone basically has 3 batteries and charges them at 1.5A each, so it's not going to kill the battery too fast. I really don't mind that a standard charge is slow. I charge it overnight at 2.1A from a USB mains socket by my bed, so that'll be 0.7A per battery which is going to make it really nice to the batteries longevity.
Battery life is superb. Even during a day of heavy use, my second day of owning the phone, including much tinkering, gaming and also using a lot of data in the doctor's waiting room, it was only down to 40% by midnight.
The "Skyline" notification light is actually quite good in these days of LEDs that are far too bright, however whenever I see the name I always think of a Nissan, not a fancy LED.
An SD card slot on a high end phone released in 2015!
The downsides:
The dual-SIM layout is slightly odd. It takes a micro SIM as its primary and a nano SIM as the secondary. 4G is only available on the micro SIM, not the nano!. This strikes me as an odd decision as nano SIMs are more likely to be 4G capable, and to be the primary SIM for the phone, with the larger SIM being from a crappy company phone. Fortunately for me my girlfriend is very good with a craft knife and the Blackberry SIM is now a perfectly good nano SIM. I guess some folk would rather use up their works data allowance for everything and then stick in a personal nano SIM for calls.
The position of the power button is annoying. I keep grabbing it and locking my phone when I want to just hold the phone. I wonder if there's a way to make that button unlock only, not lock, as I can lock it by either closing the case or double tapping the home button.
Opening task manager by doing a long press on menu, rather than home, takes a little bit of getting used to.
The Oppo widgets only work on their own launcher. I had to install Google Calendar to get a working calendar widget, which then left me with two calendar entries in the app drawer.
There is still a little bit of bloat to be removed. Google Chrome should not be baked into a ROM as it's 80mb and is almost invariably out of date when the phone ships, plus I use Firefox anyway, also the above mentioned oppo calendar.
There's a hidden app with the name still in Chinese that had me nervous at first as I had no idea what it did. Turns out it's EngineeringMode.apk and is triggered by *#*#4636#*#* and has a few things to tinker with, but use with caution.
No kernel source code available, no fastboot files available. This is especially annoying given that the OTAs failed for me.
Most information about the phone, and about ColorOS is only available in Chinese.
Non-removable battery.
SD card can't be used at the same time as a second SIM. I wonder if careful shaving of both cards could get around this, but unwilling to try it as getting a card stuck in that slider would basically ruin the phone.
The SIM slider can be completely removed and if you lose it you have a £430 tiny overpriced tablet!
All in all I'm quite happy with my purchase. I'm not sure it'll do that well as the phone doesn't know what it wants to be. The dual-SIM thing is great for business people, but the selfie camera is obviously targeted at young women, yet the size is likely too big and they're competing with Samsung who actually have physical shops in the UK. They're also doing zero marketing. For me it is (almost) the perfect phone*, but I'm weird and have multiple often contradictory requirements. I love it but not sure I'd recommend it to anyone else.
* for it to be perfect it would have to have a 5-row QWERTY slider. This is my first non-QWERTY phone and I'm struggling with typing having come from a Droid 4. Guess I need to look for an external keyboard.
so far battery life seems to be as good as my note 4.
very happy with the phone so far but knowing me, soon, i will revert to note 4 cos i like the pen.
the motorised camera is quite amazing.
my main gripe is i wish the finger print scanner were as big as the huawei one.
Comparing with Note 4
Note 4 over N3
- generally faster esp with file copying
- slimmer
- feels better in the hand
- a more sensible headphone jack
- better screen
- better auto brightness
- Spen!!!!
- GPS is better
- more RAM
N3 over Note 4
- faster camera
- more wow factor with the camera module
- much better mono speaker
- better finger print scanner
- colorOS is a more user friendly OS than touchwiz
- can be dual sim (not checked whether it is dual standby though)
- lower price point plus got freebies
- gestures are great!!
- fast charging is quite phenomenal
The placement of the monospeaker is particularly smart. It is at the bottom but more importantly, because of the skylight notification portion, the speaker is not the last part of the phone. This is important because for phones with bottom-mounted speakers, when i play games and hold the bottom, my palm covers the speaker. Additionally, when the phone is placed on the table, with the skylight bulge and the table flanking the speaker, there is a lot of resonance, making the speaker pretty loud!! At the same time, on speaker phone mode, i can cup my palm over the bottom to increase the volume. In all, this is the best implementation of bottom speaker.
what do you mean by "dual standby"? I have two SIMs in there, so I'll test it for you.
i suppose to find out whether both lines can be called through or whether only one can be used (despite there being two sims in the phone).
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what do you mean by "dual standby"? I have two SIMs in there, so I'll test it for you.
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both sims work at the same time
inertiaholic said:
i suppose to find out whether both lines can be called through or whether only one can be used (despite there being two sims in the phone).
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you can receive calls or texts on both sims at the same time....the sim settings are also great...you can set it to default reply so that if someone texts or calls you on sim1 the phone will default reply on sim1....also when you go to make a call or send a text there is an option for both sims you just press the one your using
Review by Music.Photo.Life.
I'm happy to share my review of the OPPO N3 here.
http://musicphotolife.blogspot.sg/2015/04/oppo-n3-swivel-camera-smartphone-review.html
Thanks for reading!

Turbo 2 My final thoughts.

I have an S6 edge and i love the phone but the battery life left me to leaving battery saver on all the time and at the end of the day i would be at about 30%. So i thought it was time to pick up something that will last longer. And i had the phone since launch so time for something new.
First things first. Its huge. Its really big. But so is the price you pay for a phone that can walk away from a 900 foot drop and has a huge batt. Secondly if you get this phone do as i did. Before you even touch the display put the glass screen protector on it. If not you will get scratches.
So day to day use i love it. I end the day with about 70% battery life. The charger is amazing. 25watts will get you topped off really fast. Display is not bad. You really need to look to see the gap that all the layers make it have. But really not bad. People say i sound much better on the phone and people sound better. The radios in this phone kill the S6 edgs. Where i would get around 65Mbs down i now get around 100Mbs. Calls are nice and clear. Camera takes a little getting use to and you will deff want another camera app as the stock is blan. I can get pretty good pics now but it was a change going from a ois cam to one without it but phase detecting auto focus. Android runs smooth and i love the moto touches. First phone since the droid razer and im glad they pulled back. The moto touch is a great polish to android.
The bad. Bluetooth to my car some times will take 30-45 sec to connect. My S6 is much faster. But the Turbo 2's connection was solid and gave me no issues.
I really love this phone. Put a $20 128gig micro sd card in it and replaced the stock gray ballistic nylon back with a black nylon back and it was not that hard. As soon as the guy who i order my parts from gets the blue buttons and what not ill put those on it so i can have the one i want "Wanted it that day did not want to wait for the moto maker version" But ill be keeping it. I miss my S6's finger print reader but with a patter lock and set up to only lock when i set it down i can live without it. And its good to say screw you sammy and your super locked down devices. My S6 is rooted but thats the last sammy phone ill ever own due to them locking them down so hard.
Here are some benchmarks that i have done at diff times when someone asked me. Looks like i got a decently binned 810 and is at the higher end of the spectrum.
bignazpwns said:
I have an S6 edge and i love the phone but the battery life left me to leaving battery saver on all the time and at the end of the day i would be at about 30%. So i thought it was time to pick up something that will last longer. And i had the phone since launch so time for something new.
First things first. Its huge. Its really big. But so is the price you pay for a phone that can walk away from a 900 foot drop and has a huge batt. Secondly if you get this phone do as i did. Before you even touch the display put the glass screen protector on it. If not you will get scratches.
So day to day use i love it. I end the day with about 70% battery life. The charger is amazing. 25watts will get you topped off really fast. Display is not bad. You really need to look to see the gap that all the layers make it have. But really not bad. People say i sound much better on the phone and people sound better. The radios in this phone kill the S6 edgs. Where i would get around 65Mbs down i now get around 100Mbs. Calls are nice and clear. Camera takes a little getting use to and you will deff want another camera app as the stock is blan. I can get pretty good pics now but it was a change going from a ois cam to one without it but phase detecting auto focus. Android runs smooth and i love the moto touches. First phone since the droid razer and im glad they pulled back. The moto touch is a great polish to android.
The bad. Bluetooth to my car some times will take 30-45 sec to connect. My S6 is much faster. But the Turbo 2's connection was solid and gave me no issues.
I really love this phone. Put a $20 128gig micro sd card in it and replaced the stock gray ballistic nylon back with a black nylon back and it was not that hard. As soon as the guy who i order my parts from gets the blue buttons and what not ill put those on it so i can have the one i want "Wanted it that day did not want to wait for the moto maker version" But ill be keeping it. I miss my S6's finger print reader but with a patter lock and set up to only lock when i set it down i can live without it. And its good to say screw you sammy and your super locked down devices. My S6 is rooted but thats the last sammy phone ill ever own due to them locking them down so hard.
Here are some benchmarks that i have done at diff times when someone asked me. Looks like i got a decently binned 810 and is at the higher end of the spectrum.
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I got one 2 days ago. Do not regret it one bit whatsoever; great device in every way. It's fast, battery life is crazy good, no overheating/throttling, display is very clear with extremely accurate colors for an OLED (gets up to about 400 nits max [pretty average], color temperature is about 6800K [kelvins] so really accurate.
Camera takes very good photos, and I can use it with one hand with small hands. No lag whatsoever, even after intensive gaming.
The bad: I wish there was a fingerprint sensor on here; not a major issue for me. Benchmarks:
bignazpwns said:
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The bad. Bluetooth to my car some times will take 30-45 sec to connect. My S6 is much faster. But the Turbo 2's connection was solid and gave me no issues.
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Interesting... What model radio/car do you have? My DT2 connects to my Fiat and BMWs pretty much immediately.
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Interesting... What model radio/car do you have? My DT2 connects to my Fiat and BMWs pretty much immediately.
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2015 Camaro ZL1. My S6 connected much faster. But it's all good. Prob just a setting on my phone I can change.
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no overheating/throttling,
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Except for when you're charging it. The only time the Turbo 2 ever heats up is when you turbo charge it, and I've experienced some throttling playing games at the same time. Kinda sucks since my PlayStation emulator absolutely murders the battery, so the only way you can play it for an extended period of time is while it's charging I had to use my old Samsung charger that charges slower to avoid throttling.
Turbo/fast charging is handy but not good for battery life in long term. When you play games, part of the power/current goes to the device itself so it's less destructive for battery but heat is.
Takes almost a minute to connect to my Porsche panamera as well
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Takes almost a minute to connect to my Porsche panamera as well
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I don't know if its the Bluetooth scan interval on the turbo 2's stock setting but my s6 was maybe 10 sec at most. It's not a big issue just annoying.
Very rarely my DT2 will not connect in time to my Ford's Sync system. But, it's probably 1 out of every 20-ish tries (unless the Sync module needs a fuse pull), and all I have to do is just push the Voice button and tell it Bluetooth Audio.
My Galaxy S6, on the other hand, it was maybe 3/10 times that it would successfully connect. It had terrible battery life, too, would be down to about 20% after playing local music with the screen off for ~7 hours.
My DT2 is a beast and blows away the S6. Note4, too, but it's a much closer race with the Note4.
I find it hard to believe you found a 128GB micro SD for only $20. Sounds like you're ebragging and if it really was that cheap, I'm sure it won't last long. Cheapest I could find was for $34.99 and that was on sale.
graymonkey44 said:
I find it hard to believe you found a 128GB micro SD for only $20. Sounds like you're ebragging and if it really was that cheap, I'm sure it won't last long. Cheapest I could find was for $34.99 and that was on sale.
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Called Craigslist. Do you always cry? Let me guess you and you alone know the price of ever thing at all times? Internet know it all's. I love xda.
bignazpwns said:
Called Craigslist. Do you always cry? Let me guess you and you alone know the price of ever thing at all times? Internet know it all's. I love xda.
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Well someone got mad over the smallest thing. Didn't take much to get your jimmies rustled, lol. 'Tis the season of giving. Have a happy holidays.:thumbup:
You can find the cheap ones but you get what you pay for lol
There are rumors, that is possible to find sd card with capacity as much you wish. Even unlimited is possible. When sd card reach physical limit, will start writing data from the beginning. So in theory has unlimited capacity for writing, only problem is reading
Interesting, coming from my Droid Maxx, my bluetooth is totally improved in both of my cars.
The only complaint I have with the phone is now I cannot speak at all in my condo where before (with the Maxx) I was able to talk with only an occasional blackout (even in my basement).
burnxtc said:
Interesting, coming from my Droid Maxx, my bluetooth is totally improved in both of my cars.
The only complaint I have with the phone is now I cannot speak at all in my condo where before (with the Maxx) I was able to talk with only an occasional blackout (even in my basement).
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I am noticing call quality lacking on some of my calls as well. This is a very good phone but I'm gonna return it (and get something else) if the static and broken calls continue.

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