Camera Manual Mode? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi guys! Can anyone please tell me the shutter speed and ISO range available in whyred using open camera/ footej camera? I just want to ensure that the device has support for long exposure photography. Thanks in advance, screenshots are appreciated.

Yes. The phone supports the features you mentioned and I use them by downloading third party apps like Footej camera, Camera FV-5, open camera etc

sharmasrb said:
Yes. The phone supports the features you mentioned and I use them by downloading third party apps like Footej camera, Camera FV-5, open camera etc
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I know it supports manual mode. But I need the range. For eg, the shutter speed range of Redmi Note 3 is 1/1000 to 1/2 seconds. Whereas, higher end phones can keep the shutter open for even 30 seconds. Can you please give me the range? :|

shivy25 said:
I know it supports manual mode. But I need the range. For eg, the shutter speed range of Redmi Note 3 is 1/1000 to 1/2 seconds. Whereas, higher end phones can keep the shutter open for even 30 seconds. Can you please give me the range? :|
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I was able to take 30 second shutter speed picture which I have attached here.

sharmasrb said:
I was able to take 30 second shutter speed picture which I have attached here.
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Thanks a lot mate!

sharmasrb said:
I was able to take 30 second shutter speed picture which I have attached here.
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I am guessing you are using FV-5....
If so, I don't really think FV-5, or any other camera app in this case, can take photos with this device (and probably with most MIUI devices) surpassing the 'hard' max shutter time that Xiaomi imposed to the camera stack.
In fact, I've tried using 30 seconds exposures with fixed 100 ISO setting and the images were darker than using fixed 100 ISO and auto shutter.

shivy25 said:
Hi guys! Can anyone please tell me the shutter speed and ISO range available in whyred using open camera/ footej camera? I just want to ensure that the device has support for long exposure photography. Thanks in advance, screenshots are appreciated.
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masik rom has it shutter speed and iso in miui cam.

raptorddd said:
masik rom has it shutter speed and iso in miui cam.
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Shutter limited to 1/2s, iso can not lower 100

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Camera app with working shutter speed adjustment?

I've been trying to use any of the cm customs roms and trying to use a camera app with shutter adjustment but none of the camera apps have working shutter adjustments. Has anyone found a camera app with it working?
Which apps did you try so far, in case others are having the same question?
Did you try manual camera?
You can test all features
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
AcmE85 said:
Which apps did you try so far, in case others are having the same question?
Did you try manual camera?
You can test all features
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The camera apps that support shutter speed (ProShot, Manual Camera, etc.) display the shutter speed but when you take a picture it doesn't actually work.
mook6_99 said:
The camera apps that support shutter speed (ProShot, Manual Camera, etc.) display the shutter speed but when you take a picture it doesn't actually work.
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+1, and fv 5.
These cam apps (shutter speed) also don't work on stock OOS.
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tdamocles said:
+1, and fv 5.
These cam apps (shutter speed) also don't work on stock OOS.
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Manual camera with shutter speed works fine on my device running oos 3.2.2.
Just tried manual again and it doesn't work on 3.2.2.... App works but shutter speed freezes or just doesn't take a picture.
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Try playing around with the iso and shutter-speeds a bit. I just now noticed that I have the same issue as you.
But, after a short time the app starts taking pictures as intended with various ISO and shutter-speed values.
I really don't know why it behaves like that and it used to work right after start with previous OOS versions.

RAW Support and long exposures

Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
DadOudidOuda said:
No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
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Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
A331709 said:
Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
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I'm not surprised if there's no differences between the 2 but I thought you could make 30 seconds exposure shots with Camera FV-5 (which would surely make a difference with the stock camera)
About RAW support, from what I've read the Z Play doesn't support it unfortunately. You'd need the TrueZoom mod to get RAW support, which is quite an expensive buy.
A331709 said:
Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
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Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
A331709 said:
Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
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IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
If im not mistaken, Camera2API supports raw format. Whenever Lenovo finally enables it (Nougat?) we should be able to export to raw format.
A331709 said:
IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
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I found that long exposure shots have a very limited use :-\
True it's not something you'd use everyday, but it would've been good to have this work as it should. The only other thing I can think of is that they've nerfed it on purpose so the camera mod sells.
noisyriver said:
Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
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Raw does work if you enable camera 2 api or modify hal lib it works even in camera 1 mode
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[REQUEST] enable long exposure mode please

I have been using this phone for a month. I am rooted with magisk and camera2 api is enabled. All the manual controls except the long exposure works fine but in case of shutter speed or long exposure i cannot find more than 1/8 sec in any of the third party app like proshot and camera fv-5. So i think this is the cause of my camera hardware not being able to do so :crying::crying:. But amazing developers like you guys are out there who are making great customization and mods for this phone, please anyone take an initiative for enabling this long shutter speed mode for at least 10 or 20 sec.
wow72 said:
I have been using this phone for a month. I am rooted with magisk and camera2 api is enabled. All the manual controls except the long exposure works fine but in case of shutter speed or long exposure i cannot find more than 1/8 sec in any of the third party app like proshot and camera fv-5. So i think this is the cause of my camera hardware not being able to do so :crying::crying:. But amazing developers like you guys are out there who are making great customization and mods for this phone, please anyone take an initiative for enabling this long shutter speed mode for at least 10 or 20 sec.
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Disable camera 2 API and then try camera FV5,you will get the option to set manual exposure time in it.
I've tested it,try yourself.
Stealtherthreat said:
Disable camera 2 API and then try camera FV5,you will get the option to set manual exposure time in it.
I've tested it,try yourself.
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Actually when camera2 api was disabled i tested it and saw that all that it does is stack some images. That image is not what i call long exposure image. Any how can you share some long exposure shots taken by this phone? can you do light trails also? please share.
Managed to got this by opening shutter for 5 sec
Stealtherthreat said:
Managed to got this by opening shutter for 5 sec
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wow thats good! Are you using the latest camera fv5 or previous version? How can i disable camera2 api?
wow72 said:
wow thats good! Are you using the latest camera fv5 or previous version? How can i disable camera2 api?
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Yes ,using latest version.
To enable or disable camera2api follow this -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/tool-google-camera-root-magisk-enable-t3747585
Stealtherthreat said:
Managed to got this by opening shutter for 5 sec
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Is this shot on Canon DSLR (DSC file name)
Anandkrishna said:
Is this shot on Canon DSLR (DSC file name)
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its just the file name, you can change that naming pattern in the settings of the app, no canon or any kind of DSLR.

Any way to get shutter speed options in the camera?

Just noticed that the Pro mode in the camera doesn't offer any shutter speed settings.
Is there any way to get it on the phone? Suggestions for some other good camera app which supports this on the A50 perhaps?
I don't own an A50. I'm thinking to get one.
You can try Adobe Lightroom, it has a pro mode, where manual shutter speed might be available.
Open camera and HedgeCam 2 have this
immortalized2018 said:
Open camera and HedgeCam 2 have this
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What is the lowest shutter speed available?
souradeep414 said:
What is the lowest shutter speed available?
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SORRY IDK
immortalized2018 said:
Open camera and HedgeCam 2 have this
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souradeep414 said:
What is the lowest shutter speed available?
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In Hedgecam2, ISO settings don't work (see exif) and shutter speed settings don't show up on A50. Also 12MP can't be set and it takes too much time to take a picture.
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In Hedgecam2, ISO settings don't work (see exif) and shutter speed settings don't show up on A50. Also 12MP can't be set and it takes too much time to take a picture.
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Yeah its takes slowly but shutter speed is there
immortalized2018 said:
Yeah its takes slowly but shutter speed is there
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Had some trouble finding it in settings but then I noticed it's in manual mode in ISO settings.
immortalized2018 said:
Yeah its takes slowly but shutter speed is there
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Can you tell me the range of available shutter speeds?
souradeep414 said:
Can you tell me the range of available shutter speeds?
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1/10s - 1/16666,7s in Hedgecam2.
Also noticed with manual whitebalance, all images get a greenish hue.
NoCo33 said:
1/10s - 1/16666,7s in Hedgecam2.
Also noticed with manual whitebalance, all images get a greenish hue.
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Thanks.

Long exposure error in third party camera app

I cannot find any option to enable RAW in native camera app , and after trying 10+ pro camera app from play store , I'm not able to make the shutter any higher than 0.5 seconds ! Native camera app has max exposure time of 10 seconds..
Can you please help me regarding this problem ? And please suggest any camera app that can support long exposure in RAW format.
(Even budget phones like realme 7 has 32sec exposure time in RAW mode :| )
Model no. SM-M515F/DSN
gcam and open camera has raw option but you can only see the thumbnail of the image you have to send it to a pc to get the full res aand 0.5 ss is just a bummer I hope somebody can change that
Yes RAW option is there with many cameras.. but I want RAW with LONG EXPOSURE... That is the thing I'm not finding in any camera app ☹ .. I dont know why the native app can go upto 10 sec and no other app can go beyond 0.5 sec... What's the issue ?
rupakkapur said:
Yes RAW option is there with many cameras.. but I want RAW with LONG EXPOSURE... That is the thing I'm not finding in any camera app ☹ .. I dont know why the native app can go upto 10 sec and no other app can go beyond 0.5 sec... What's the issue ?
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The issue is its probably software locked or something
It is not completely soft locked, still usable when set exposure time manually. CameraCharacteristics#SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE reports 0.5 seconds at max so all camera apps use it as max value for compatibility. However I don't know any camera app allows completely manual exposure times. Some gcam mods have exposure options for astrophotography mode, you can use them with raw but most of them have no manual controls.
venisonsteak said:
It is not completely soft locked, still usable when set exposure time manually. CameraCharacteristics#SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE reports 0.5 seconds at max so all camera apps use it as max value for compatibility. However I don't know any camera app allows completely manual exposure times. Some gcam mods have exposure options for astrophotography mode, you can use them with raw but most of them have no manual controls.
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Thank you for the info.
Isn't it possible to overwrite #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE to 10sec which is default for the native camera app.
And why only the native app has the access to 10sec max exposure? This is a huge limitation in my opinion for a phone that costs rs.23000/-
rupakkapur said:
Thank you for the info.
Isn't it possible to overwrite #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE to 10sec which is default for the native camera app.
And why only the native app has the access to 10sec max exposure? This is a huge limitation in my opinion for a phone that costs rs.23000/-
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They limit available exposure time for stability or promote their most expensive devices. In this case it is not stability because stock app has 10 seconds, #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE reports 0.5. I think stock app uses CaptureRequest#SENSOR_EXPOSURE_TIME directly without looking at #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE. Third party apps can do same thing too but they need to ignore #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE and set exposure time directly. They don't do that because it will crash if device doesn't support desired exposure time.
Maybe they can fix it with custom roms or you can send a bug report to samsung developer support but I don't think samsung will fix this if this is not a mistake.
You can try nikita's gcam with astro mode for long exposure raws.
Nikita GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Nikita.
www.celsoazevedo.com
venisonsteak said:
They limit available exposure time for stability or promote their most expensive devices. In this case it is not stability because stock app has 10 seconds, #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE reports 0.5. I think stock app uses CaptureRequest#SENSOR_EXPOSURE_TIME directly without looking at #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE. Third party apps can do same thing too but they need to ignore #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE and set exposure time directly. They don't do that because it will crash if device doesn't support desired exposure time.
Maybe they can fix it with custom roms or you can send a bug report to samsung developer support but I don't think samsung will fix this if this is not a mistake.
You can try nikita's gcam with astro mode for long exposure raws.
Nikita GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Nikita.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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Thanks again
I think I have to wait till they add raw support to the native camera app.
In the meantime I'll use gcam as you have suggested..
But this whole "limiting basic functionality " thing for samsung is very very disappointing...
Even Realme/Xiaomi has it in their budget phones ..☹
venisonsteak said:
They limit available exposure time for stability or promote their most expensive devices. In this case it is not stability because stock app has 10 seconds, #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE reports 0.5. I think stock app uses CaptureRequest#SENSOR_EXPOSURE_TIME directly without looking at #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE. Third party apps can do same thing too but they need to ignore #SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE and set exposure time directly. They don't do that because it will crash if device doesn't support desired exposure time.
Maybe they can fix it with custom roms or you can send a bug report to samsung developer support but I don't think samsung will fix this if this is not a mistake.
You can try nikita's gcam with astro mode for long exposure raws.
Nikita GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Nikita.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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With nikita's gcam in astro mode I got 9.23 mins wonder if it really works will try soon

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