Why does Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (Whyred) Have More Kernels Than ROMs? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers

I've noticed that Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (Whyred) has more kernels than actual ROMs. So I was wondering why that is.

In the end, ROMs are just ROMs. The only difference between most of them are some features (like, for example, statusbar tweaks, lockscreen,etc), kernel and blobs.
The kernel does most of the difference in the end. (performance wise)

ROM developpers become more interested when the updates from the vendor become sparser. Fo a relatively new device the harvest for our Whyred is not bad.

It is the wishes of the devs.Do you even need to ask why there are more Roms/kernels?We should be glad to get what we are getting.Devs are not getting paid for their hard work but they still spent their time doing something for the community.

it's soon, we will wait patiently.
we hope a bunch of recognised developers as franco, elementalx, boeffla etc.

Big Thanks For All Developer For Day to Day New Kernel and Rom

props to devlopers

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Requesting the Developers to port the YUN OS to MI MAX, which is amazing.
Looks similar to MIUI but have smooth interface and new features
Prior to Mi Max, I used it as a daily driver on my Redmi Note 4G
http://en.miui.com/thread-101477-1-1.html
Thanks a ton for all the Devs here !
port yun os
kmsrao said:
Requesting the Developers to port the YUN OS to MI MAX, which is amazing.
Looks similar to MIUI but have smooth interface and new features
Prior to Mi Max, I used it as a daily driver on my Redmi Note 4G
Thanks a ton for all the Devs here !
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we dont even have the kernel sources yet, hence no developer can deliver this right now. maybe in future ? who knows!
still searching in google and xda hoping some one ports this rom to MI Max...
Its just a skin like Miui or tw or emui
What's special about this?

Roms

Any one knows when will the custom roms arrive for this device i know itll take time but i need to prepare myself of how long will i need to use the miui
Maybe 4 or 5 months, since xiaomi is always late to release kernel source it will take some time to get stable ROM
dual boot patcher is already available for the Note 5, i hope they can get it for the Pro soon so i can have Miui/LineageOS together
what the adv of having a dual boot ?
obviously you have the choice of either the oem or custom rom to boot.
Damn! The phone isn't even on sale yet. DAMN!
2-3 months
Dragonlord07 said:
Any one knows when will the custom roms arrive for this device i know itll take time but i need to prepare myself of how long will i need to use the miui
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First of all, people and devs should buy the device! And it is possible to get ROMs before the Kernel Source release, as devs create custom kernel. So, it may take 2-3 months
patience is a virtue
Hey Shahan. Will you be here as a developer for Redmi Note 5 pro? Then it is like heaven. Currently I own Mi4 with your Nitrogen OS.
saliksack said:
Hey Shahan. Will you be here as a developer for Redmi Note 5 pro? Then it is like heaven. Currently I own Mi4 with your Nitrogen OS.
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I have no plans to buy the device as of now but Vasishath is planning to buy hence I may work whenever free.
Dragonlord07 said:
Any one knows when will the custom roms arrive for this device i know itll take time but i need to prepare myself of how long will i need to use the miui
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Let the kernel source release
Though my question is somewhat unusual but any developers interested in building custom roms for Zenfone Max M1 pro. Was about to buy Redmi note 5 pro then Asus released this phone. Now I am confused. Also which phone will have a better future on XDA?
rahulrajmishra36 said:
Though my question is somewhat unusual but any developers interested in building custom roms for Zenfone Max M1 pro. Was about to buy Redmi note 5 pro then Asus released this phone. Now I am confused. Also which phone will have a better future on XDA?
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You have the answer just look again where you posted your query
rahulrajmishra36 said:
Though my question is somewhat unusual but any developers interested in building custom roms for Zenfone Max M1 pro. Was about to buy Redmi note 5 pro then Asus released this phone. Now I am confused. Also which phone will have a better future on XDA?
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In terms of development on xda, RN5P will definitely have better support. Evident from previous xiaomi devices.
I think Redmi Note 5 Pro Will Develop More Custom Rom Than Zenphone M1 Pro
rahulrajmishra36 said:
Though my question is somewhat unusual but any developers interested in building custom roms for Zenfone Max M1 pro. Was about to buy Redmi note 5 pro then Asus released this phone. Now I am confused. Also which phone will have a better future on XDA?
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RN5 by a mile
The 5,000 mah battery and Vainilla Android is tempting but:
-No EIS
-No IR Blaster
-No Gorilla Glass or Oleophobic coating on the screen
-Inferior Selfie cam
-Low Development
So the Redmi Note 5 / 5 Pro is the clear winner
carlosggb said:
RN5 by a mile
The 5,000 mah battery and Vainilla Android is tempting but:
-No EIS
-No IR Blaster
-No Gorilla Glass or Oleophobic coating on the screen
-Inferior Selfie cam
-Low Development
So the Redmi Note 5 / 5 Pro is the clear winner
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1000% agreed !

I'm about to buy this device - is it fully compatible with AOSP roms?

Hello. This might sound like a silly question, but does the device work well when changing ROMs, for example from the default MIUI ones to AOSP?
I'm asking because I've had an LG phone for a very long time, and for example, when it ran AOSP, the camera quality was terrible compared to stock LG roms because LG didn't release the drivers... The sound works differently too, with AOSP the quality is lower.
So does something like this happen with this phone? Anything else I should be aware of while buying this device? I tend to keep my phones for a very long time so I'd like it to be future proof.
Is it possible to flash unofficial MIUI releases, like 3 years from now when Xiaomi doesn't support it anymore? Or is AOSP the only option by then?
Thanks in advance.
Yes Xiaomi Officially Releases its kernel sources for developer.......so custom/Aosp Rom support is great....and you can use miui camera on aosp rom....so camera quality is also great on aosp rom....but i am not satisfied with the gpu performance of redmi note 5(you can get better performance with Old Mi5 or New Mi A2/6x and mi8se).....if you can increase budget go for poco phone f1......But about your query ASOP rom Has Same/Better support in as MiUi rom in every aspect on all mentioned Xiaomi phone along with note 5.....and Xiaomi provide official miui 10 support to old device like remi note 3 so you can trust.
You can flash modded stock roms like Miuipro, Masik, Miui.eu, etc...
Algo You can check the development section for AOSP based roms
The phone in general is great the best gamma media for me so far
But keep in mind that it takes 30 days to unlock the bootloader. So, you'll be stuck with the stock Rom for a month.

No roms for this device?

So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
dunklesgemut said:
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
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Can u check guides section we need some testers for POSP
You could always try a gsi
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
zaiross said:
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
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U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
girishjangir7 said:
U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
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So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
zaiross said:
So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
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No problem then wait for someone to test
girishjangir7 said:
No problem then wait for someone to test
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro-custom-rom-kernel-developers/
this happened over 2 months ago and yet there is nothing. "need for testing" hmm okay.
Is it because of the Mediatek chip and them not sharing code?
It seems like there will not be any stable enough custom roms for this phone even tho it was realeased 4 months ago, there is still nothing.
Makes me a bit sad. So great specifications but no custom roms. Damn Mediatek! [if its their fault]
@zaiross At the moment, the main problem is a bug that results in hard brick which can only be recovered by a service centre that has an account authorized to flash in EDL mode (the lowest level of service/flash protocol, even lower than Fastboot). So no development because if a ROM Dev causes the hard brick, they have to pay a fee to service centre to get reflash using EDL.
Also does not help that MediaTek seem not interested in the smaller development community. MediaTek have said they are not interested in a similar partnership with the Linux Code Aurora community that Qualcomm works with. It's a pity they're not interested as I believe it would help increase popularity of MTK chips and increase sales over time.
a programmer could modify sp flash tool so it would bypass asking for authorized account. that would be worth to achieve smth for long time than paying services for bricks
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
Helhound0 said:
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
Plumplum88 said:
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
ariber14 said:
This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
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Since when does Xiaomi claim to support custom roms from the community with any of their phones??
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T seems nice enough.. It has Qualcomm chip in it. Should people with Pro switch to that for example? Or perhaps Xiaomi Redmi K30, Realme X2 or Oppo K5 ....
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro seems great because of specs but MIUI really sucks ass, and like ariber14, i too bought this phone in belief of getting a custom rom to it sooner or later. :/
RenatoNismo said:
thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
I am still using Redmi Note 2, my next phone will be Snapdragon only, no more bullsh* of development like customs, gcam, bootloader and xiaomi.eu etc. etc.
in 2015 Helio X10 was promising like G90T was at the launch date, as always like the whole story of every mediatek devices, RN2 was enough for me to learn lesson, but it's good for daily use, even without customs neither gcam which I need, I could waited for months and paid more money for redmi note 3 pro, it's still being developed.
my gf's Redmi 5 is 2 years old cheapest, is being updated and has gcam night sight working better than rn8pro
Halasir said:
I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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I just got my OnePlus 5T working so I'll be using that as my daily and my Moto X4 for music. I'll probably keep this until next July and sell it so i can pool in some cash from my bonus and get whatever the flagship OnePlus out at that point. But if i was to make a purchase now, I'll probably avoid XIAOMI altogether. I've been looking into the ROG phone 2 specially since it's not expensive comparing to some other flagships. I'll probably go for that.
Halasir said:
I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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It's not, especially when you can just flash a GSI to it.
I have gotten Havoc to work via GSI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...uide-how-to-unlock-root-flash-gsi-to-t4037403

Question Custom firmware

Hello. Can I hope for some custom roms for this device later? I really enjoy custom roms but I don't like buy xiaomi phones again and found this phone in really good price! example redmi note 12 pro has same proccesor but it's more expensive and miui has some limitations among features.
Can I hope for custom rom or AT LEAST is samsung sharing kernel source of it's phones and is it possible to make one myself later after learning? I have some plans to learn android developement
smohroot said:
Hello. Can I hope for some custom roms for this device later? I really enjoy custom roms but I don't like buy xiaomi phones again and found this phone in really good price! example redmi note 12 pro has same proccesor but it's more expensive and miui has some limitations among features.
Can I hope for custom rom or AT LEAST is samsung sharing kernel source of it's phones and is it possible to make one myself later after learning? I have some plans to learn android developement
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You can learn to develop your own ROM.
Everything shared here on XDA is essentially a hobby. Developers work for free, and often focus most of their time and effort on devices they already have. The best way to get something ported to your particular device is to learn to do it yourself.

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