Gestures Vs Navigation Bar - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

I'm curious, for those running Android P. Who's using the gestures vs Navigation bar vs something else like OnePlus gestures/XDA navigation gestures.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
I'm curious, for those running Android P. Who's using the gestures vs Navigation bar vs something else like OnePlus gestures/XDA navigation gestures.
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Ive been using edge gestures with immersive mode since last year and love it. I tried the Android p gestures and couldn't stand it.

I don't have Android P yet but when I get it I will be turning the gestures off. I hate gesture based navigation. Not intuitive at all.

Been using gestures daily since DP3. It was really laggy and stuttered with DP2.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Been using gestures daily since DP3. It was really laggy and stuttered with DP2.
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Yeah, they work fine now on the latest beta. No issues like before. The only big problem I have with them is they still take up the same amount of screen space. Wish they could figure that out. And ditch the back button arrow in favor of a left swipe of the pill.

Android P gestures and I like it, but I wish there would be a built-in "back" gesture

I use xposed edge pro. It can do just much more than the other options.
Inonow you are asking about android P, but this will likely be what I use when xposed is updated to P. And this is also the reason I will in all likely hood stay on oreo until xposed has been updated.

Phazonclash said:
Android P gestures and I like it, but I wish there would be a built-in "back" gesture
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I'm using 'OnePlus gestures'* (along with 'hide nav bar') which has this. The app is working flawlessly for me, and is what the Android P gesture UI should have been.
I'm helped by the fact that I also use a OnePlus 5t, so I keep trying to use those gestures on my Pixel anyway!
*The app is not free, but it's one of the best apps I've bought.

I tried the navigation gestures app from xda and has many more ways to customize the gestures, but ultimately, navigating using just the bottom edge of the screen is not comfortable and much slower than on screen buttons. IMO, Gestures should be triggered from anywhere on the screen, but still won't be as fast

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Android P Gestures vs Fling Navigation vs iOS Gestures

Android has had gesture navigation since 2015, possibly earlier, on custom ROMs by way of Fling.
Granted, both the iOS and Android P variants are likely more mature in some ways, but I'm curious to see some conversation about Fling versus Android P gestures versus iOS gestures
Fling gestures it's super personisable, I configured the look and feel of fling like Android's P gesture navbar.
I prefer to have the screen space, so I'm using OnePlus Gestures Navigation to achieve gesture navigation.
Before this, I used Xposed Edge.
Curiousn00b said:
I prefer to have the screen space, so I'm using OnePlus Gestures Navigation too achieve gesture navigation.
Before this, I used Xposed Edge.
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Are the OnePlus Gestures something we can download? If so, where?
Moostafa29 said:
Are the OnePlus Gestures something we can download? If so, where?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ivianuu.oneplusgestures
Anyone using op gestures with Dp2?
myk.robinson said:
Android has had gesture navigation since 2015, possibly earlier, on custom ROMs by way of Fling.
Granted, both the iOS and Android P variants are likely more mature in some ways, but I'm curious to see some conversation about Fling versus Android P gestures versus iOS gestures
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https://9to5mac.com/2018/05/17/video-google-pixel-2-xl-android-p-versus-iphone-x-multitasking/
I read this article that popped up in my news feed a few weeks ago regarding this very topic. The author is, imho, biased towards iOS but it does cover the various differences between the two operating systems & their gesture-based navigation.
I did use gestures during the entire duration of my DP2 experience. It was, for the most part, fine & for a preview version of the OS and more than likely unfinished code it worked very well. The only reason I had to revert back to O was that bluetooth didn't work in my car & that is annoying to me having to hold my phone like an animal.
I'm very much in favor of gestures. Of any kind. But if Google wants to use gestures...they need to also save the screen space and hide the navigation bar when not being used. To me, that's the other big side of using gestures...more on screen space.

full screen gestures

I've enabled full screen gestures and I'm using Google keyboard with swipe.
Afkomst every time I start with the letter p, I'm using the back feature. Quite annoying.
Anyone experiencing the same and has a possible solution?
wim69 said:
I've enabled full screen gestures and I'm using Google keyboard with swipe.
Afkomst every time I start with the letter p, I'm using the back feature. Quite annoying.
Anyone experiencing the same and has a possible solution?
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Xposed + Gravity Box + Enable Pie Control, then just configure the trigger edges the way you like.
Works so much better than the gesture control.
MrColdbird said:
Xposed + Gravity Box + Enable Pie Control, then just configure the trigger edges the way you like.
Works so much better than the gesture control.
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What version of miui
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I recommend Edge gestures from the play store.
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Xposed + Gravity Box + Enable Pie Control, then just configure the trigger edges the way you like.
Works so much better than the gesture control.
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I've had some bad experiences with Xposed lately, phone froze for over a minute after receiving a call. I think Xposed and GB are a bit overkill for this. But thanks anyway for your suggestion.
wim69 said:
I've had some bad experiences with Xposed lately, phone froze for over a minute after receiving a call. I think Xposed and GB are a bit overkill for this. But thanks anyway for your suggestion.
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Look into LMT launcher then.
Unlike it's name it actually isn't a launcher but a very minimalistic open implementation of Pie controls.
It requires root to function properly but at least no Xposed is involved.
sbeaber4 said:
I recommend Edge gestures from the play store.
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I might try that. But the choice is between either on screen buttons or gestures in Miui. How do I disable gestures in Miui without having the buttons?
MrColdbird said:
Look into LMT launcher then.
Unlike it's name it actually isn't a launcher but a very minimalistic open implementation of Pie controls.
It requires root to function properly but at least no Xposed is involved.
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Thing is that I don't want the on screen buttons and I do want MIUI full screen gestures. I guess that's not possible, in MIUI it's one or the other. I'll have to live with that or use another launcher. Minor issue, since the phone is working excellent!
Yeah for that your only options at the moment are either to run the unofficial RR build with Arasthel's gestures baked in or Xposed plus Xposed Edge module.
The next best thing you could go for other than that would be XDA's gestures application, but that one simulates the gestures as found on the iPhone / OnePlus devices, so they work a bit differently (the back gesture works differently).
You can edit your buildprop to tell your phone you have hardware keys. It will then remove the navbar for you. You can then use edge gestures, Swipe navigation etc.
wim69 said:
I might try that. But the choice is between either on screen buttons or gestures in Miui. How do I disable gestures in Miui without having the buttons?
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Easy if your are using magisk.
1.- Disable gestures.
2.- Install "Hide navigation bar" magisk module.
Best regards.
Or disable them via a adb setprop command without requiring root, etc.
MrColdbird said:
Yeah for that your only options at the moment are either to run the unofficial RR build with Arasthel's gestures baked in or Xposed plus Xposed Edge module.
The next best thing you could go for other than that would be XDA's gestures application, but that one simulates the gestures as found on the iPhone / OnePlus devices, so they work a bit differently (the back gesture works differently).
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Where i can find the RR rom with miui gestures
Andy Yan's thread. It's a collection of roms he compiles.
Make gboard smaller by entering one hand mode, then relocate keyboard in the middle. I use this with Huawei Mate 10 Pro and it's the only way I can still use the full screen gestures and enjoy the experience.

Nova launcher

With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
airmaxx23 said:
With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
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I saw a video yesterday on YouTube that showed the option to revert back to the old button layout instead of using gestures. It was on a beta version of Pie but it’s very possible that they kept it in the final release.
Here’s a link to instructions to enable gestures if your on a phone such as the pixel 2 that received the Pie update. I assume turning the gestures off would work the same way.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-use-android-9-pie-gesture-navigation/amp/
I believe there are posts about gestures being the only form of navigation
I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
airmaxx23 said:
I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
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Well that kind of sucks.
DarkPhoenix said:
Well that kind of sucks.
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If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
y2grae said:
If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
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All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
DarkPhoenix said:
All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
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I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
Chronzy said:
I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
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I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
just downloaded Hyperion Launcher on my 2xl.
It's interesting as it has features from several different launchers, including nova.
It's brand new and is a little buggy (very little so far) but I think I'm going to play with it for a day or 2.
I didn't purchase the pro version, which is expensive (sort of) at 3.99, but I might if it continues to interest me tomorrow.
As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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I personally don't like the lack of options with the stock launcher. With my OG Pixel XL I recently turned on the gesture navigation and have been getting used to it while still using Nova Launcher.
bsg411 said:
I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
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If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
uicnren said:
If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
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Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
bsg411 said:
Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
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It's an app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner&hl=en_US
I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
krabman said:
I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
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At a guess I'd say there are some design restraints that affect all Android devices. THAT may be one of them. Specifically, constraints to maintain interoperability between independent developers apps running on Android. Start messing with the navigation menu too much, there's no telling what you are going to break.
Of course, it being Google, maybe they have some idea of what they are going to break and chose not to maketh with the breaking...
Possible, I don't know enough about it to poke at the nuts and bolts of it. With OnePlus you can have it either way at that tap of a button, maybe it was a toggle? My understanding was you could do this with Pie also and just go back to the nav bar if you wanted up until this device. With OnePlus it didn't in any way affect the phone or apps that I have except the launcher. I've got the pay Action and Nova and both of those have gestures you can use which can conflict with the nav gestures. Action in fact put out a beta update that made it so a swipe up from the bottom opened the app drawer and that couldn't be changed which completely broke the OnePlus gestures which also swipe up from the bottom. Cred to those guys, I sent an email about it and it was fixed within a few days so that you could turn that off. Not sure how many sent such an email but it was nice to see the quick response regardless. I guess where I'm going is I can see how it could conflict with something, but it shouldn't be too much from what I've seen; nothing a developer worth his salt wouldn't sort out quickly.
Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
tj_f said:
Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
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Swipe right works for me on Nova Prime. Are you doing it along the nav bar?

Navigation gesture - only Android 10 version?

Does the 7T still have Oneplus' own gesture navigation or does this phone only come with the standard Android 10 gestures? (I know the navbar buttons are still there if preferred)
OP's nav. gestures have been replaced with Google's.
https://youtu.be/PXkYSNlaU7o
(Watch from 04:29 to 04:39)
GSMarena's review says the same:
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_7t-review-1992p4.php
I am pretty sure you can choose whether to use Android 10 gestures, or Oneplus's as before (swipe from down L or R for back), I saw this screenshot somewhere.
On screenshot I saw it was option: Gestures (left right) or Gestures (bottom), so I am almost 100% positive, you can choose.
Preludeee said:
I am pretty sure you can choose whether to use Android 10 gestures, or Oneplus's as before (swipe from down L or R for back), I saw this screenshot somewhere.
On screenshot I saw it was option: Gestures (left right) or Gestures (bottom), so I am almost 100% positive, you can choose.
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This is right. You get an option to select Gestures (left right) or Gestures (bottom)
No, OnePlus 7T does not have OnePlus' gestures. It only has Google gestures. And I've read on the forums that some other model, I think OnePlus 7/7 Pro, also had them removed in Android 10 update.
enfilade said:
No, OnePlus 7T does not have OnePlus' gestures. It only has Google gestures. And I've read on the forums that some other model, I think OnePlus 7/7 Pro, also had them removed in Android 10 update.
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I hope they add them back...Oneplus 7 had kept them though in Android 10...
I have the device, it is really annoying that it only has the google one. If only they added it back. Anyone found any workaround?
Using vivid navigation gestures from app store and works well. No more assistant and can use lmt pie launcher again.
I'm late to owning the 7t so I have no experience with the OnePlus gestures.
I'm curious to know what advantages it has over Google's gestures?
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The assistant gesture is really annoying...
Can not be disabled?

One UI 2.0 new navigation bar gesture

Previously, double tab recent tab will switch to previous app.
For Android 10, I need to press and drag from center to bring up recent apps. However, I can't find faster way to switch to previous app.
Any one know how?
If you do that motion (for recents) and flick it to the right in just one motion switches back to previous app.
FCORivers said:
If you do that motion (for recents) and flick it to the right in just one motion switches back to previous app.
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I switched back to the original one. Double tap is so much easy. I use One Hand Operation+ which can go back the same way.
And I use Nova Launcher. New gesture is not compatible
torickray said:
I switched back to the original one. Double tap is so much easy. I use One Hand Operation+ which can go back the same way.
And I use Nova Launcher. New gesture is not compatible
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I don't have the Android 10 update yet but from what I see in the new Oneui2 you can just swipe to the right at the bottom to go to your previous app. Doesn't get better than that. It's just about the same as iPhone gesture.
LuRock said:
I don't have the Android 10 update yet but from what I see in the new Oneui2 you can just swipe to the right at the bottom to go to your previous app. Doesn't get better than that. It's just about the same as iPhone gesture.
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I'm using Nova launcher. Can't use the gesture anyway.
torickray said:
I'm using Nova launcher. Can't use the gesture anyway.
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oh I see.. Have you tried to see it works with Lawnchair 2?
Also, you can swipe to the left and go real quick to original app you were on. Try it!
torickray said:
I'm using Nova launcher. Can't use the gesture anyway.
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I tried this method https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-...ova-launcher-and-other-third-party-launchers/ but it always seems to go back to the nav bar at the bottom after a while.
I don't know if anyone else is facing the sake issue in regard to the navigation gestures. But when I type faster on the screen keyboard I sometimes end up in the home screen or launching another application as if I hit a hidden home key or recent key.
I use gestures (no navigation bar)
ghassan haddad said:
I don't know if anyone else is facing the sake issue in regard to the navigation gestures. But when I type faster on the screen keyboard I sometimes end up in the home screen or launching another application as if I hit a hidden home key or recent key.
I use gestures (no navigation bar)
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I still haven't received the Android 10 update but I will definitely look for that when I get it. Thanks q
I recently found out that good lock does not work on android 10, and I rely on it very much, I use one handed operation because I hate the nav bar, I can not tolerate having all the space it takes being wasted, so I have it hidden and I use gestures, but I am seeing that gesture nav is a nightmare on android 10, I think I will stick on blocking the update, as I did since day one, precisely because of these things
winol said:
I recently found out that good lock does not work on android 10, and I rely on it very much, I use one handed operation because I hate the nav bar, I can not tolerate having all the space it takes being wasted, so I have it hidden and I use gestures, but I am seeing that gesture nav is a nightmare on android 10, I think I will stick on blocking the update, as I did since day one, precisely because of these things
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I'm on Android 10 and have Good lock installed, One Hand Operation+ works fine. Not all apps are available in Good lock yet but should be within a couple of months, like when One UI originally came out.
One hand operations+ works also on Android 10, with that you have granular customizable gestures including switch to last app, recents and a comfy lateral quick switch for all app opened! OHO+ works also without good lock app installed, you can sideload it from apkmirror or here in the xda forums taking advantage of nicelock. Nicelock also integrates an information tab with all the modules working on Android 10
Hex installer is working
On andriod 10. Hex installer fixed the weird nav bar issue when set to swipe. I set the nav bar size to 5. Swipes work without the huge black bar under the keyboard.
One hand operation still works. I use nova but one hand operation is my preference anyway.
Also, I cannot hide the carrier logo or move the clock. I tried systemui turner. It doesnt work for clock or carrier. Some other functions work though.
For now I just set the weather consistent notification to get rid of the AT&T on statusbar.
Hopefully goodlock will fix this when updated.
winol said:
I recently found out that good lock does not work on android 10, and I rely on it very much, I use one handed operation because I hate the nav bar, I can not tolerate having all the space it takes being wasted, so I have it hidden and I use gestures, but I am seeing that gesture nav is a nightmare on android 10, I think I will stick on blocking the update, as I did since day one, precisely because of these things
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Good Lock is updating to be more compatible with Android 10. It is not finished yet. When all capability issues are resolved and updated, that's when we will get our update.

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