Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
Recommending something can be biased unless you havent tried both and yes its tough choice to make. Now that 6 gigs version of Asus zenfone max pro is released it can surely out perform 5 pro and in your case for a device to stay as much as 2-3 years i would vote hands down for max pro m1 6 gigs since 4+64gigs will age by that time. only thing which was letting max pro down compared to 5 pro was camera which now said to be improved since asus isnt launching zenfone 5 in india so its they're best bit in budget segment market. Speaking of development on both phone should be the same since both are powered by same processor and are treble enabled.
and Yes I am frustated with unlocking bootloader and antiroll thing since its only way they make money by making people use their bloatware and UI which is otherwise in asus case
so verdict ASUS FOR THE GO.
100% Redmi Note 5 Pro
And
Mi A2 Coming Shortly
myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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I actually sold my RN5 Pro yesterday and will get Asus. Left all the groups of Telegram too. It's not worth investing time in custom roms anymore since it's a lot of headache with anti3/4, unlock bootloader etc.
I've used the 4GB Asus variant for few days, exchanged my ph with a friend, I won't say it's bug free phone but there is no phone that's bug free. For Asus: Once you've got used to receive otas from oem, security patches every bi monthly, stock Android with few addons ( double tap), can unlock unofficially and relock for warranty, I feel Asus has a lot of advantage here.
I'm pretty sure few will tell you about prior issues they had specially with Asus Zenphone phs that were based on Intel cpus but I would suggest you to ignore. Asus has learned from such mistakes, went with SD this time which I'm sure will get good dev support if you're into flashing roms.
For me, getting a stock rom ph, easy to root/unlock bootloader just to use ad blocker, good battery life, decent hardware, no boatloader 20 days waiting, no anti3/4, no mi fans nonsense. I've heard the camera outperforms RN5P but I haven't checked about it since I'm sure all mid end phs does the social sharing job. I'm investing my money with Asus this time.
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
Just wait for MI A2.
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lawong said:
i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention the separate slot for SD card, which indeed is nice to have and RGB led which I didn't know it has But since I only use one SIM that's not something I need and speaker wise, it's good enough for me
In the end, one has to choose based on his needs and preferences, I would go for RN5, but that's my 2 cents we are giving pros and cons for both anyway
From reviews that I saw, the Zenfone has a pretty slow fingerprint scanner than the RN5. But they might've fixed that in an update. If I was in India, I'd go for the Zenfone (I wanted to get it before RN5 but I'm not in India), simply for the bigger battery. I'm not much of a camera guy, all I care about is lag free UI, decent gaming performance, good battery life, and sleek modern design.
Redmi note 5 pro, never had any problems in terms of modding & stuff. Besides it's very hard to get your hands on a Zenfone Max M1 (at least here in europe). The choice is yours, both are decent and 4 + 64 will be enough also in 3 years!
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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Just bit off IP. If you have still troubles with unlocking bootloader. Only thing you need is to use kinda very old Mi Unlock app. I am in work, so I cant provide you with the exact version I used, but I didnt have to wait that ridiculous time. Just PM and I will send u.
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Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man
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Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.
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If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.
I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.
Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.
Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali
For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).
Hello Friends,
I Need Your Important suggestion on Buying a New Phone.
Actually I was Using Micromax Nitro A311 with Custom Resurrection Remix v 5.8.5 ROM.
And I need to buy a New Phone But I am Very Confused With Which Phone to Buy under 15K.
Since I have Several Options are Available such as Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus ZenFone Max M1, Realme 1, Redmi Note 5.
So Please Help me Out by suggesting, Which Phone to Buy. Since I need a Phone for Long Term Usage which should also support Rooting and Custom Roms.Performance and Battery Life is also a Concern.
My Two Cents..
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
I Need Your Important suggestion on Buying a New Phone.
Actually I was Using Micromax Nitro A311 with Custom Resurrection Remix v 5.8.5 ROM.
And I need to buy a New Phone But I am Very Confused With Which Phone to Buy under 15K.
Since I have Several Options are Available such as Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus ZenFone Max M1, Realme 1, Redmi Note 5.
So Please Help me Out by suggesting, Which Phone to Buy. Since I need a Phone for Long Term Usage which should also support Rooting and Custom Roms.Performance and Battery Life is also a Concern.
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Hello...
For what it's worth.. I suggest the Xiaomi Note 5 Pro.
The Snapdragon 636 is a fine engine.. and the Price-To-Performance ratio is amongst the very best.
You just can't go wrong.. wether you leave it basically stock.. or go all out root/roms etc.
Happy Shopping!
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Hello Friends,
I Need Your Important suggestion on Buying a New Phone.
Since I have Several Options are Available such as Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus ZenFone Max M1, Realme 1, Redmi Note 5.
So Please Help me Out by suggesting, Which Phone to Buy. Since I need a Phone for Long Term Usage which should also support Rooting and Custom Roms.Performance and Battery Life is also a Concern.
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Just like that, you know you are on rn5pro threads so i guess majority will recommand their phone so the rn5pro....
Those who are not satisfied are no more here so i guess no one will tell you max m1.
ask in max m1 and i guess they will tell you to buy max m1.
Human nature, we recommand what we have except if really bad product, which is not the case here as spotted, ratio performance/price is just fine af
Just check if you can still unlock (even 360 hours what is that in a recent phone life time)
Hi guys
I'll try to make this short. I lost my Redmi Note 5 Pro (which I loved) and now I need a new phone. I stumbled upon the Honor 7x while searching for an alternative. You should know that I never bought a Huawei phone, I only used high end devices from Samsung, OP, LG and recently been using Xiaomi phones. I had a very bad experience with the Redmi Note 4 with its MTK SoC, since I LOVE flashing custom ROMs and doing all sort of new stuff with my device (rooting, xposed, theming..etc).
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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Omg I love the Asus zenfone max pro! It seems such a great device for the price of less than 200$. But I can't seem to find it anywhere aside from flipkart or ebay (overpriced). I'm not an indian so I can't order it from flipkart. Do you know if it will be sold in the future on aliexpress or another international website?
OnePlus is the way to go. Get the 5T or the 6, both are very fine devices. Heck, even the OP3 (and 3T) are still good today.
If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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I'm not sure if sources are available, but Huawei is normally pretty good at releasing such things.
According to this URL: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/open...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
If you search 'BND', you'll see "7X,BND,EMUI5.1,Android7.0"
What I meant originally was, the Honor 7X is an INCREDIBLE phone at an incredible price, lots of customization/tweaking options. I personally have lineage OS beta 4 installed.
To answer some of your questions:
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
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1. I'm not a developer so I don't know, there are only a handful of custom OS you can download ATM.
2. Huawei provides you with a bootloader code to easily unlock the bootloader.
3. The trick with TWRP is you need to beable to install a TWRP that does decryption. Reason being is the Honor 7x, I don't know if its the entire phone.. it probably is... but I know for a fact some parts are encrypted, and you can't make a TWRP backup unless your TWRP can handle decryption. I tried to install a TWRP with decryption thats suppose to work for our phone, but I got some kind of error (I didn't write it down, but the error basically meant that it didn't work). The TWRP with decryption thats available was made for another Huawei phone thats suppose to work for the 7x. One thing you could try, would be to decrypt the phone, and then see if you can make a TWRP backup. Theres a few ways to do that: 1. TWRP>Format Data. 2. fastboot erase userdata 3. Theres probably a GUI way to do it in Settings>Security&Privacy>Encryption&Credentials>Encrypt Phone.
4. Battery life, Its way better than the Honor 5x. I haven't had my phone for very long, so I can't tell you the real world battery results. My battery menu says I have 7 days left of battery if that tells you anything. My Honor 5x got 4 days max, and this phone I know beats it... so my estimate is 5 days of battery for my usage. I'm pretty sure that Oreo has made improvements as far as battery. I looked at catlog in realtime, there wasn't hardly any activity going on unless you did something. On my Honor 5x there was always activity going on regardless.
5. I haven't played any games yet, So I don't know about SOC temps while under load. I've read on other posts that Kirin SOCS temps are good. Right now mines sitting at 29 celcius, which is excellent!
6. On official ROM, I only played with it for a short while, it seemed smooth. Now its not as smooth as iPhone, but I felt like it was just about as smooth as an android is gonna get.
Hello dear XDA Experts
Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?
Any answer is welcome to help!
BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))
Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
SkuLL. said:
POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
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I love MIUI but If any kind of Xiaomi phone with pure Android would have best dev support, best roms, much mor roms than I want to get that phone.
I forgot to mention that I hunt for from low to mid budget phones. POCO can be bought by me i it turns out that he wins my criterua,
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
furthermore
4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
YasuHamed said:
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
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4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
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1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
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1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
YasuHamed said:
1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
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1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
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1. to give him fair picture I honestly thought its worth mentioning since i haven't found any other modern days rom having switch keyboard panel NOT part of navbar accept in MIUI
2. its covered in 1 only.
3. gcam on miui doesn't work fully only sept2016 version ran (and didnt crash)
4 again, if by any chance the phone is bricked, i cannot press both volume and power keys to enter in EDL mode (like in Redmi3s)
you asked for good phone with nice battery , so i mentioned Nokia 8, and yes sorry about sd845, its sd835 with 6gbram and 5.3"screen with hardkeys, so u are getting full 5.3" to work with. THe bezels aren't that much they way you have metioned
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
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Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
androidbadboy said:
Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
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sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
YasuHamed said:
sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
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In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
androidbadboy said:
In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options
but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
fadgry said:
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
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Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
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yes means that 3D touch in S8 gets me only 2 types of things (remove icon or uninstall)?
What happens if on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / pro I touch and hold an icon just like in S8 I wrote before?
androidbadboy said:
Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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I know it is a huge cash difference since I personally buy RN5 instead of Poco haha. But yeah people really looking for Poco here and they will pay another 150 USD for it.
What about RN5? After 2 weeks using it I don't face any problem. People said they got a or b or c problems, and I would confuse as I didn't get it. Since I'm a hard gamer too, it is crucial to look for performance and it is satisfying.
Both phone are good and has really active forums, it is your choice after all to buy the phone. Hope you get the best which suits your need.
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
dunklesgemut said:
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
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Can u check guides section we need some testers for POSP
You could always try a gsi
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
zaiross said:
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
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U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
girishjangir7 said:
U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
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So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
zaiross said:
So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
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No problem then wait for someone to test
girishjangir7 said:
No problem then wait for someone to test
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro-custom-rom-kernel-developers/
this happened over 2 months ago and yet there is nothing. "need for testing" hmm okay.
Is it because of the Mediatek chip and them not sharing code?
It seems like there will not be any stable enough custom roms for this phone even tho it was realeased 4 months ago, there is still nothing.
Makes me a bit sad. So great specifications but no custom roms. Damn Mediatek! [if its their fault]
@zaiross At the moment, the main problem is a bug that results in hard brick which can only be recovered by a service centre that has an account authorized to flash in EDL mode (the lowest level of service/flash protocol, even lower than Fastboot). So no development because if a ROM Dev causes the hard brick, they have to pay a fee to service centre to get reflash using EDL.
Also does not help that MediaTek seem not interested in the smaller development community. MediaTek have said they are not interested in a similar partnership with the Linux Code Aurora community that Qualcomm works with. It's a pity they're not interested as I believe it would help increase popularity of MTK chips and increase sales over time.
a programmer could modify sp flash tool so it would bypass asking for authorized account. that would be worth to achieve smth for long time than paying services for bricks
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
Helhound0 said:
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
Plumplum88 said:
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
ariber14 said:
This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
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Since when does Xiaomi claim to support custom roms from the community with any of their phones??
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T seems nice enough.. It has Qualcomm chip in it. Should people with Pro switch to that for example? Or perhaps Xiaomi Redmi K30, Realme X2 or Oppo K5 ....
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro seems great because of specs but MIUI really sucks ass, and like ariber14, i too bought this phone in belief of getting a custom rom to it sooner or later. :/
RenatoNismo said:
thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
I am still using Redmi Note 2, my next phone will be Snapdragon only, no more bullsh* of development like customs, gcam, bootloader and xiaomi.eu etc. etc.
in 2015 Helio X10 was promising like G90T was at the launch date, as always like the whole story of every mediatek devices, RN2 was enough for me to learn lesson, but it's good for daily use, even without customs neither gcam which I need, I could waited for months and paid more money for redmi note 3 pro, it's still being developed.
my gf's Redmi 5 is 2 years old cheapest, is being updated and has gcam night sight working better than rn8pro
Halasir said:
I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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I just got my OnePlus 5T working so I'll be using that as my daily and my Moto X4 for music. I'll probably keep this until next July and sell it so i can pool in some cash from my bonus and get whatever the flagship OnePlus out at that point. But if i was to make a purchase now, I'll probably avoid XIAOMI altogether. I've been looking into the ROG phone 2 specially since it's not expensive comparing to some other flagships. I'll probably go for that.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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It's not, especially when you can just flash a GSI to it.
I have gotten Havoc to work via GSI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...uide-how-to-unlock-root-flash-gsi-to-t4037403