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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
snapplefish said:
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
sram21092 said:
if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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I detailed what I did here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161714&postcount=24
(Here's the post where I got the instructions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57095260&postcount=9 )
I didn't change the directory where I sideloaded the Vending.apk, I just sideloaded it in with everything else. I don't remember if I briefly tried to install the Play store before without Google services, but that's probably why I had to adb install with the -r flag.
Before I installed Google services, some apps were working fine without them. Notably, Snapchat complained every time I brought it up, but ran fine. I would wait a bit for some more input from people... From what I've heard around here, it's just me and another guy (Aztecwarrior, the guy whose method I used in that thread) who have it working at the moment. I'd say you can sideload most applications without installing Google services.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ is what I used to pull APKs to sideload before installing the Google services and Play store.
EDIT: I should mention that the Play store doesn't just deliver updates to apps... I've been able to completely install and manage applications through it; it works just as you'd expect it to work on any other phone for the moment. i.e., you don't need to sideload apps first to get them on the phone if you've installed all the Google stuff. Sorry for the ambiguity in my previous post.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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No background crashes -- yet -- at all. I've also enabled background ANRs in the dev options, and nothing's popped up from that either.
I don't have all access for Music, so I can't comment on that.
I just installed Hangouts and gave it a cursory launch... It loads up, enabled SMS (loaded all my conversations from the Fire Phone's messenger app), has all my contacts loaded up to start a conversation. Is there anything specific you'd want me to try?
Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Regarding default apps, everything is handled via intents (e.g. I set chrome to take all web requests)... when I enabled hangouts sms, I started getting texts to hangouts without being notified by the default app, so I think that much is configurable. The dialer, I'm not sure.
I'm in class right now (and pretty much until 9pm, and lots of homework), but I'll check hangouts dialer and default apps when I have time.
Did you root it first ,if so, did you use the same method as aztecwarrior?
No root. I used the guide that Aztec referenced, but not his exact steps. Check post #4 in this thread, the first few lines.
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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
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I've been using the Play Store, Hangouts, and Gmail off and on the last 12 hours or so. It's been rock solid for me. No crashes. Haven't found any missing features. Maps does seem to have some issues but haven't tried navigation yet, which is what I really would use it for.
Thanks to you all for your input. I bit the bullet and ordered one before the sale ended.
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
natter_deluxe said:
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
natter_deluxe said:
Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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As I said, checking the update status does not provide the 3.6.8 version to my phone. It is not rooted and after delivery with 3.6.0 I did nothing else to the phone but update it to 3.6.2.
Only the new GSM unlocked phones come with 3.6.8 Sounds like you got your phone before this all happend therefore you are able to downgrade and root, your one of the lucky ones. You can get a AOSP feel to your phone if you want. Not sure why your not following those guides. Heck if you don't want to root then I'll trade you phones lol.
Gmail conacts
I am transferring my contacts to the FIre phone from Android. All my phone contacts are stored in Gmail(google contacts).
Now the problem is i am not able to find a setting option which would show only contacts with Phone no.
It is showing all contacts of Gmail, but i only need contacts with phone no there.
I had the same issue in Android 2.3 or something, when Android had an option of enabling the contacts with phone no only. Later on in Android 4 they moved to keeping all contacts but at the dialup i could search for only contacts with numbers only.
Any suggestion here. May be a different launcher or app?
Thanks
I received my phone and mostly everything is working. Google voice works, and automatically places calls using my gv number. Only issue I'm having is that the hangouts doesn't send sms messages over WiFi (but will over let) and the hangouts dialer has the same issue, I can't place calls via WiFi either. Anyone else find this?
I have been happily running google services on my phone (fireos 3.6.8). However, Google released an update to Play Services (version 7.3) yesterday (4/15/2015), which crashes. Has anyone else started getting popups saying "Google Play Services has stopped" constantly? Does anyone have a workaround or does anyone know of a way to keep Play Services from updating automatically? I am able to reinstall 7.0.99, which works, but the app immediately downloads the update and installs itself automatically.
I am having the same problem. Installed the previous version but was automatically updated.
I'm also having the same problem and would like to find a workaround or a temp stop too keep these messages from popping up. It makes the phone nearly unusable.
works okay on 4.6.1
I had the same problem, suddenly play services was crashing continually. Just updated to FireOS 4.6.1, and google play services is no longer causing trouble. On the other hand, Google Play Store just hangs. I can downgrade to an older version that works, but it keeps automatically updating. So pick your poison: On 3.6.8 the services will crash, and on 4.6.1 the store will crash. I think the services crash was worse.
No troubles here with newest Services or Store on 4.6.1.
Thanks. I updated to 4.6.1 and everything is much better.
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I had the same problem, suddenly play services was crashing continually. Just updated to FireOS 4.6.1, and google play services is no longer causing trouble. On the other hand, Google Play Store just hangs. I can downgrade to an older version that works, but it keeps automatically updating. So pick your poison: On 3.6.8 the services will crash, and on 4.6.1 the store will crash. I think the services crash was worse.
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Try deleting all Google services,play store,account manager and framework and reinstall
Also noticed google play store wont load after update
Also Clash of Clans refused to open. Uninstalled everything google, and now clash opens but wont sync to my google+ account because I cant get google services to actually open, so I've lost all my progress.
All in all, happy its not giving me the stopped working message but irritated google services is acting so crazy. Also cant get gmail to open because of all this.
rich8511 said:
Also noticed google play store wont load after update
Also Clash of Clans refused to open. Uninstalled everything google, and now clash opens but wont sync to my google+ account because I cant get google services to actually open, so I've lost all my progress.
All in all, happy its not giving me the stopped working message but irritated google services is acting so crazy. Also cant get gmail to open because of all this.
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If you uninstall and go back to the older version of google play services, none of the google apps will run. They REQUIRE the danged update.
Lots of folks using many different phones are having issues with the latest version of Google Services. Might not just be the Fire phone having issues then. My services is still 7.0.99 even after updating the OS. Play store still reports that's the latest version for me so maybe they froze the update. I think I may set that file to read only until this is sorted out.
after using my phone with the updated OS for a few days now, I've also experienced some more issues. some apps don't open or stall on opening such as Redfin and some open, but don't seem to work such as Pandora (opens, but music won't load).
anyone else?
Downloaded and installed this,
Google Play Store 5.4.12
still not working acts like it can't see phone
installed tab and if you try to install just spins.
worked yesterday made the mistake or resetting and trying again.
rbeavers said:
Downloaded and installed this,
Google Play Store 5.4.12
still not working acts like it can't see phone
installed tab and if you try to install just spins.
worked yesterday made the mistake or resetting and trying again.
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Same thing here. I uninstalled play store and installed older version 4.1.10. I can then open up the store and update applications, but the next time I open Google auto updates (despite settings not to) it to the latest version that just spins on a white screen. At least this is a work around to keep other apps updated while we wait for a fix.
It looks like Google Play Services 7.3.29 was just released this morning. I have fireos 4.6.1 installed, my play services auto updated, and Play Store and Gmail now appear to work without hanging! Google hangouts still does not let me send messages.
Well, I spoke too soon. Play Store and Gmail open, but they don't refresh properly. That's frustrating.
I am not very technical, I did manage to sideload the play store with someone from this forum's easy to follow directions a few months back. That being said today I am having the issue with google services crashing non stop, can't load gmail and this phone is virtually useless because I have to keep replying 'ok' to the crash...
I'm on 3.6.8 and it says I'm up to date, no new updates to download ... how can I get the newer version of 4.6.1 so I can solve this crashing issue? I'd appreciate it if someone has easy to follow directions for the somewhat technically challenged... (me!)
I'm running it with T-Mobile's network and I'm in the USA.
I don't know what version google play services I use (or how to check for that matter).
Thanks!!
mjp123 said:
I am not very technical, I did manage to sideload the play store with someone from this forum's easy to follow directions a few months back. That being said today I am having the issue with google services crashing non stop, can't load gmail and this phone is virtually useless because I have to keep replying 'ok' to the crash...
I'm on 3.6.8 and it says I'm up to date, no new updates to download ... how can I get the newer version of 4.6.1 so I can solve this crashing issue? I'd appreciate it if someone has easy to follow directions for the somewhat technically challenged... (me!)
I'm running it with T-Mobile's network and I'm in the USA.
I don't know what version google play services I use (or how to check for that matter).
Thanks!!
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Updating wont help the google play store not working at lest for long.
same issue. don't see fire os update
Google play services crashing even after multiple uninstalls and updates. I don't see the fire OS update available for me yet, still showing 3.6.8 as the latest. Any ideas to try?
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Updating wont help the google play store not working at lest for long.
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thanks! Are you saying that even if I updated to the latest Fire OS I'd still get these 'Google play services has stopped' errors constantly? Also do you know if Google play store is having issues with other phones and OS's and if they are working on a fix? (it's so annoying.. can't get to gmail and the error is constant)... thanks everyone!
not just us
mjp123 said:
thanks! Are you saying that even if I updated to the latest Fire OS I'd still get these 'Google play services has stopped' errors constantly? Also do you know if Google play store is having issues with other phones and OS's and if they are working on a fix? (it's so annoying.. can't get to gmail and the error is constant)... thanks everyone!
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go look at google play services on the google play store. Everyone is having problems and giving it 1 star (including me). Multiple phones are having the issue:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms&hl=en
Hi everyone,
I followed the instructions to install google play store and was enjoying the fire phone with all my fav google apps for 4 months. But I do not know what happened, I constantly get Google Play Services has stopped. I click OK and it doesn't go and the phone is pretty much unusable. I have also tried to do factory reset and again install. The moment i install the basic 4 apps and open google play store for signing up, it starts updating Google Play services and i have the issue again. When i downgraded google play services to a lower version, I wasn't able to use any Google apps.
Has anyone faced similar problem ?? Any solution ?? Any ideas ??
The Hardware is so worth for $200 .... a nice phone but now its troubling me a lot ...
Update:: :thumbup:
Thanks for all your valuable suggestions... When I installed 7.0.99 the problem was fixed. But then it works get auto updated and cause issues. I used to uninstall and re install manually once every 12 hrs....
But received an update Fire OS 4.6.1 and after that the issue for resolved. Latest Google play store works fine. And new OS version has many new features included.. Quite good..
manojvasanthram said:
Hi everyone,
I followed the instructions to install google play store and was enjoying the fire phone with all my fav google apps for 4 months. But I do not know what happened, I constantly get Google Play Services has stopped. I click OK and it doesn't go and the phone is pretty much unusable. I have also tried to do factory reset and again install. The moment i install the basic 4 apps and open google play store for signing up, it starts updating Google Play services and i have the issue again. When i downgraded google play services to a lower version, I wasn't able to use any Google apps.
Has anyone faced similar problem ?? Any solution ?? Any ideas ??
The Hardware is so worth for $200 .... a nice phone but now its troubling me a lot ...
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Update the os to the 4.6.1 update available on xda and install the Google apps on that , it works fine for me
I have a similar problem. I am 3.6.8. Did updating to 4.6.1 resolve the issue?
Same issue here. I have tried upgrading to 4.6.1 and reinstalling all the versions of Play Services, Services Framework, Account Manager, and Play Store that allegedly are working for other people, and still broken. Hangouts no longer works (a deal breaker for me), not even Play Store is working correctly. I'm currently stuck in "version hell" with these services. One version of this breaks this version of that, etc etc etc.
Can anyone who still has a functioning Fire Phone please post the point release of all of their services?:
Google Account Manager
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Play Store
Hangouts
Thank you!!
trpt4him said:
Same issue here. I have tried upgrading to 4.6.1 and reinstalling all the versions of Play Services, Services Framework, Account Manager, and Play Store that allegedly are working for other people, and still broken. Hangouts no longer works (a deal breaker for me), not even Play Store is working correctly. I'm currently stuck in "version hell" with these services. One version of this breaks this version of that, etc etc etc.
Can anyone who still has a functioning Fire Phone please post the point release of all of their services?:
Google Account Manager
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Play Store
Hangouts
Thank you!!
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The versions I currently have installed on my Fire Phone are:
Google Account Manager 4.0.3-239410
Google Play Services 7.0.99 (1809214-036)
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691
Google Play Store 5.3.6
I don't used Hangouts, but this is the version that installed on my phone when I downloaded it:
Hangouts 3.1.89134953
jack9955 said:
The versions I currently have installed on my Fire Phone are:
Google Account Manager 4.0.3-239410
Google Play Services 7.0.99 (1809214-036)
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691
Google Play Store 5.3.6
I don't used Hangouts, but this is the version that installed on my phone when I downloaded it:
Hangouts 3.1.89134953
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My phone is working and I have the exact same versions as listed above.
Xyth said:
My phone is working and I have the exact same versions as listed above.
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Thanks all. I have installed the apks for those versions, and for a brief while everything worked, even hangouts. Then Google Play Services AUTOMATICALLY updated itself to 7.3. Now everything is broken again. I have "Do not auto update apps" picked in Google Play. Is no one else having this issue?
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Thanks all. I have installed the apks for those versions, and for a brief while everything worked, even hangouts. Then Google Play Services AUTOMATICALLY updated itself to 7.3. Now everything is broken again. I have "Do not auto update apps" picked in Google Play. Is no one else having this issue?
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Mine just updated to the new services version and Play store now just opens to a blank whitescreen. Hope google fixes this soon.
playstore 5.3.6 on fire os 4.6.1
Latest Google play store won't load
Just updated and got the wonderful White screen. Grrrrrr... Did the Fire update to see if I could finally get Android Wear and now this. Hopefully a giant brain here will fix it. No pressure.
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Just updated and got the wonderful White screen. Grrrrrr... Did the Fire update to see if I could finally get Android Wear and now this. Hopefully a giant brain here will fix it. No pressure.
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Sideload the latest wear app and it should work, Google services seem to work fine just playstore having problems, other Google apps should run Android wear apk http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-wear/
I loaded it and when I launch it I get, "Update the Google app on the Play Store. Then open Android Wear again.". If I click Cancel it closes. If I click Ok it opens amazon appstore. Can't get past the message box. Did I miss something?
Thanks again Giant Brains
Thom
kieranc88 said:
Sideload the latest wear app and it should work, Google services seem to work fine just playstore having problems, other Google apps should run Android wear apk
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Hangouts is also not working. I get to my list of conversations and can open one, but the text box at the bottom is missing.
As of this morning I have the same issues. Play Store 5.4.12 sits on the white screen, hangouts shows groups but no conversations in them. All other Google apps that i have seem to work so far.
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I loaded it and when I launch it I get, "Update the Google app on the Play Store. Then open Android Wear again.". If I click Cancel it closes. If I click Ok it opens amazon appstore. Can't get past the message box. Did I miss something?
Thanks again Giant Brains
Thom
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Ok I downloaded the 1.0.4 version dated December third then downloaded and installed the latest upload 1.0.5.1785466 (501785466 from apk mirror and installed over the December 3rd version and it ran fine but I don't have an Android wear watch to pair with it so I can't tell if it works fully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60266619&postcount=21
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Sideload the latest wear app and it should work, Google services seem to work fine just playstore having problems, other Google apps should run Android wear apk
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Got wear side loaded and did the 7.0.99 fix to make play store work. But when I launch wear application it says:
"Update the Google app on the Play Store. Then open Android Wear again."
If I choose Cancel the app closes
If I choose ok the Amazon store loads. I click cancel on it.
Then I have a blue box that I can't get to go away that says,
"To ensure the best voice experience on the Android Wear, please update your Google App" and then a button that says, "Update Your Google App" that will never go away.
no1tmorrow said:
Just updated and got the wonderful White screen. Grrrrrr... Did the Fire update to see if I could finally get Android Wear and now this. Hopefully a giant brain here will fix it. No pressure.
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My brain is only medium sized so I can only offer half-measures. I get the white screen all the time. But, if I deinstall Play Store then reinstall it, it opens fine...but for only that session. As soon as you close it and try to reopen, white screen is there. So, I now have everything set up the way I want and have deleted Play Store. When I need it again will reinstall. It's an acceptable work-around until Amazon loosens the reigns a bit and learns to play nice with the kids from the Google neighborhood.
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My brain is only medium sized so I can only offer half-measures. I get the white screen all the time. But, if I deinstall Play Store then reinstall it, it opens fine...but for only that session. As soon as you close it and try to reopen, white screen is there. So, I now have everything set up the way I want and have deleted Play Store. When I need it again will reinstall. It's an acceptable work-around until Amazon loosens the reigns a bit and learns to play nice with the kids from the Google neighborhood.
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Do you happen to have an Android wear device? I want to buy one but if my fire phone won't work with it then I need to get a new phone prior to buying an Android Watch.
Yes. Updating OS solved the issue. :thumbup:
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I just forced an update of the play store to version 4.6.17 with the latest buggy play services installed. Play store now working fine, can update and install software like before. Need to test some of the other bugs but at least I have a working Play store now on the latest version of the Fire OS.
Google Maps still not working for me now, just clocks trying to load location like before. My guess is they need to update the apps that have dependencies on the Play services to fix these bugs. Maybe the fix cant all be done in Play services.
Just an update. So far it seems that this version of the Play Store does not force an update to Play services when opened. I deleted the latest version of Play services and reinstalled the older version, and after several hours of going back into the Play store it has not updated. Now Maps and Pandora are back to working fine. So far everything is working and back to normal for me.
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I just forced an update of the play store to version 4.6.17 with the latest buggy play services installed. Play store now working fine, can update and install software like before. Need to test some of the other bugs but at least I have a working Play store now on the latest version of the Fire OS.
Google Maps still not working for me now, just clocks trying to load location like before. My guess is they need to update the apps that have dependencies on the Play services to fix these bugs. Maybe the fix cant all be done in Play services.
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Hi Xyth,
Thanks for the information and partial fix!
I currently have apparently the lalest Google-Play-Store v5.4.12 installed in both of my Fire Phones, and you said:
"I just forced an update of the play store to version 4.6.17 with the latest buggy play services installed"
Do you men, that we have to use the latest "buggy" Google-Play-Services v7.3.29 with the Google-Play-Store v4.6.17 an older version?
Please Could you post, if available, the download links of both files?
Sorry for the confusion. I found that using an older version of the Play Store (4.6.17) and the older version of Play Services (7.0.99) together seems stable and is not auto updating either version when using the Play Store. In the past, it always seemed to update both the Play store and the services when I used the store.
Sorry, i do not have an account to link the files, but they are linked in other threads on this forum.
Have u restarted ur phone to see if that did anything?
I have not rebooted if that's what you mean. I wanted to see if it remained stable for at least a day. I will reboot tomorrow and report.
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I have not rebooted if that's what you mean. I wanted to see if it remained stable for at least a day. I will reboot tomorrow and report.
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Please Xyth, let us know tomorrow how it works, after you reboot and restart again the Fire-Phone?
ulises.rodriguez said:
Please Xyth, let us know tomorrow how it works, after you reboot and restart again the Fire-Phone?
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This combination survived a reboot
I rebooted and waited a while to see if anything was auto updated. No updates happened so it seems this combination is stable across reboots. Play Store can be used to install and update applications without Play services being updated.
At this point I don't have any issue with any applications I use not working properly, but I don't use Hangouts and others that might not like this combination. At least for now, The upgrade the android 4.4.4 is complete and stable. If anything changes I will post.
Again, the files used are:
1. com.google.android.gms version 7.0.99 (7099036) aka Google Play services
2. Google Play Store.apk version 4.6.17
Both should be available on this forum as that's where I got them. After work I can see if I can located them. I hope others can replicate this on their phone.
Hangouts is the one probably
Hi,
I have tried to not start Hangouts, and this keeps the play services from being updated.
Even though the play store got updated to the latest version it seems to work fine to install all new apps or update apps
The play services seems to stay at 7.0.99.
I tried to play with it .. if I open hangouts that is when the play services get updated and have to redo the uninstall install to get things working again.
IMO hangouts is the one which needs the updated play services and forces the update.
May be someone else can try and confirm this.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-036-android-apk-download/
That is the link for Google Play Services 7.0.99.
ractar28 said:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-036-android-apk-download/
That is the link for Google Play Services 7.0.99.
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And the link for the version 4.6.17 of Play store can be found here: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=73036323a69e3cf1&id=73036323A69E3CF1!1484&ithint=folder,.apk&authkey=!AIVXLFXAOWDeM0Q
Its been about 18 hours and so far neither Play store nor Play services have auto updated despite using play store 20+ times and a reboot. Seems very stable.
So just to confirm, you had the accounts manager and frameworks already and left them alone...then u uninstalled services and the play store and installed those two files you pointed to. First services and then play store. What Google apps do you currently use? I do use hangouts but I will avoid it to try your process.
Here's what I did to get the only app I cared about, which was Clash of Clans (which was stuck at a black screen upon opening since play store update):
Uninstall all Google stuff: the account manager, services framework, play services, play store, and clash of clans
Go through the usual process:
1. Install Account Manager
2. Framework
3. Play Services
4. Play Store
5. Open Play store, sign in, download clash of clans
6. Open clash of clans, it tells me I need to update play services
7. follow prompt, download and update play services
8. re-open clash of clans, connect to my account, download village
9. go out, uninstall play services, then install the 7.0.99 version from this thread
10. immediately uninstall play store and then when I opened clash, it still works
11. I tried rebooting phone to make sure it would still work. It still does.
12. cross fingers and hope it'll work forever.. I have vowed to not install the play store until it play services gets fixed
13. I have noticed in clash, I'm not connected to google+ or facebook, and I plan on leaving it this way
14. I have bluestacks and clash installed on my pc, and I noticed both pc and firephone villages are linked together and will update/save village everytime I play, which tells me firephone clash is still saving my data to the cloud
Hope this helps, if something breaks, I'll post followup
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And the link for the version 4.6.17 of Play store can be found here: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=73036323a69e3cf1&id=73036323A69E3CF1!1484&ithint=folder,.apk&authkey=!AIVXLFXAOWDeM0Q
Its been about 18 hours and so far neither Play store nor Play services have auto updated despite using play store 20+ times and a reboot. Seems very stable.
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I used ur files without using hangouts and it still updated. Not sure if it's cuz my phone connected to WiFi at some point...
I haven't had google play services update on me for the day. I'm using the newest play store with the working version of services installed. I was able to log into Google+ for clash of clans and other apps work properly now. I made sure I had hangouts uninstalled before I did any reinstallation because that seems to be the main culprit which updates services.
Don't install hangouts and don't open the play store after reinstalling services and everything should be working, until something forces an update
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I used ur files without using hangouts and it still updated. Not sure if it's cuz my phone connected to WiFi at some point...
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Did you have play store installed when it updated?
I tried using the older versions of both play services and play store as mentioned in this post but both got updated in spite of having auto updates turned off. Thinking of getting new phones for me and my wife. We can't stand the amazon fire os ecosystem and can't afford to not have Google apps or services. (Feel bad being a hostage but that's the truth)
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I tried using the older versions of both play services and play store as mentioned in this post but both got updated in spite of having auto updates turned off. Thinking of getting new phones for me and my wife. We can't stand the amazon fire os ecosystem and can't afford to not have Google apps or services. (Feel bad being a hostage but that's the truth)
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Well for the most part, once you install Nova Launcher (or launcher of choosing) and Google Apps, it isn't really much different from any other manufacture-skinned Android. But yeah not being able to reliably use Google Apps is pretty terrible. Especially if you're using a Fire Phone on a data-only plan and a GV # with Hangouts. Well I guess forwarding calls to another # like Talkatone might have to work for now.
Not sure if this is the reason my Play Store and Play services don't auto update when I open the play store but I have "allow non Amazon app installation" turned off. Makes sense if the play store made a request for and update that the Fire OS would block it with this option toggled.
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Not sure if this is the reason my Play Store and Play services don't auto update when I open the play store but I have "allow non Amazon app installation" turned off. Makes sense if the play store made a request for and update that the Fire OS would block it with this option toggled.
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Ok I'm 4 hours in running this way and still good. Running hangouts also.
Update... spoke too soon. It's down now.
Updated to Marshmallow, Tuesday with no problems. On Wednesday updated a bunch of apps including the Google app. decided to try the Google now launcher, so I uninstalled Nova launcher. downloaded Google now launcher. Now my Google app is gone from my phone. when I go to the play store I get the message that this version is not compatible with my phone!!! Any ideas or help???
+1 My Verizon G4 Marshmallow update was extremely problematic. A bunch of apps, mostly Google, but others disappeared from my phone leaving the orphan icons in the App drawer and Google Now (and On Tap) doesn't work. Try installing the Google Now Launcher to to see what happens, GNL says I need a newer version of the Google Search App and the Play Store says it's incompatible with my device. Can anyone shed some light on this issue?
Similar issue here also, my apps disappeared from the play store, Google was one in particular. However, since then, about 30 minutes ago I was flooded with app updates, Google being one of them.
I have this problem with my Android Wear sometimes. On a fresh G4 firmware, Android wear barks it needs Play Services or something updated, but the app says Up to Date, eventually it starts updating and starts working. Perhaps it is doing stuff in the background, similar to how Play Store gets updated behind the scenes. Once a few Google Apps get updated, the rest filter through like normal.
I am hesitant to take the MM upgrade because of lack of root. I am not currently rooted, but the thought of never having the option again makes me think twice.
Its started working after a battery pull..