substratum (andromeda) support for 5z on zenui - Asus Zenfone 5Z Questions & Answers

Hi, i have ocd with white system ui and would like to change it to dark mode. As our device is currently on 8.0 that means there is no system support builtin for theming.
I know zenui offers its own theming but lets be serious here , changing wallpaper and icons is not called theming.
Here in this thread i would like to know if anybody has tried andromeda support for rootless substratum theming on zenfone 5z. If yes, then how it works. Also would like to know if it would be bad option to go this way. Any other theming method suggestions are also welcome.
In past root had been my daily friend so i had no struggle with theming. Hope, that will be true here. Just waiting for development to settle.
Update : Ok so i went ahead and purchased andromeda for rootless substratum.
So far i have tried swift dark theme. I was able to theme most of the google apps but no success with system ui. I believe that it a drawback from asus that zenui is not OMS ready.
I will try bunch off other themes and see where i can get.

I did the same thing 2 days ago with the same results. Sucks. I also paid an tried another theme, same results, it's was Sai's Oreo dark. The Swift dark theme also crashed my Outlook from opening and affected other apps negatively as well.
Please let me know if you find one that changes the system UI a well!!!!

I am not sure about the system UI but I can get the Settings page to go dark using 'Dirty Dark' from Playstore. You guys can try that. Andromeda and substratum works fine for me. I also have swift black. It does the heavy lifting for me. I miss AOSP. I just don't see myself liking the zenUI. It lacks A little elegance for my taste.

Attaching a screenshot of the settings page.

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sultan's version of cyanogenmod or OxygenOS comunity build

hi ,i've been using sultan's version of cyanogenmod for 2 month now. the main reason i liked cyanogen over OOS is the theming app and i wanted to get an all black theme with accent color that would be also applied to my apps. however all the dark themes i've been using are having issued with certain apps (the most common problem i've been facing is the google messanger app in witch i'm writing in white on a white background)
yesterday on the launch of the OP3T i saw that OOS had a black with accent color "theme" and that got me interested in going back to OOS (i know that my app would be white but i prefer this to not seeing what i'm typing)
my question now is : is sultan's rom really better in performance/battery life/...? and what would you advise me to do (i like to personalize my phone but i don't twick the internal component/over or underclock anything)
Hi, I know what you mean.
I'm not sure about Sultan's CM13 version of the theme engine (the theme engine in that rom was more "basic" when I tried), but a rom like Resurection Remix has a CM theme engine that will allow you to theme "per app".
So that means that you can apply the theme system wide, then activate this floating button, go to an app and then select what theme to apply to that specific app. For examle, apply the "default" to that app only to keep it on basic colours.
I do that for Gmail for example, which I don't like with dark themes.
Give that a go, that might work.
thank you for your answer, but isn't the camera bad on Resurection Remix? i chose sultan's CM because his camera wasn't as bad as the rest of the OS (that was 2 month ago so maybe that this has changed in that time period)
Hmmm... Not too sure. I'm using a third party camera anyway (when I use it, which is not too often).
I guess best is to try out for yourself

Lineage 14.1 Substratum themes

Hi,
Just a thread to agregate all the infos about compatibilities
I'll keep this first post updated if you give me informations.
Additionnal information :
OMS Support for LOS
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/reference-lineageos-substratum-support-t3580276
Free themes :
ModernUI : not bad, but black on black on the ambient display (when screen is all B&W). Except that, I love the look.
Inversion UI : not bad, but black on black on the ambient display (when screen is all B&W). Same in the Phone and contact app.
Greyce : No problem with it, but doesn't theme a lot of things. Just have some Grey on white menus on olds app I have. I'll stick on this one for a minimal black UI theming.
Update 8th feb : Contact and Phone is themed (keeping some white areas, but OK for me)
S.i.X themes : I tried even if not supported except Pure Nexus and S.i.X roms. Bootloop...
Paid themes :
I plan to test some of them and report here, starting with the ones compatible with 7.1.1.
Swift black : Reported as really good by @Exodusche . A lot of apps themed
Domination : Reported as really good by @Exodusche . Fewer apps themed, but accent colors
LoNe 4SuBs : seems to require OMS support. Waiting for the dev answer to see if it worth to be tested
Thanks for sharing your views on it if you already tried some of them.
Using Swift on Lineage based RR and it works pretty good. Notifications still have a White Background.
iseedeadpixels said:
Using Swift on Lineage based RR and it works pretty good. Notifications still have a White Background.
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There is no choice I think. Or the ambient display can't show the texts or titles (black on black), or the notification stays white...
Do you have problems on contacts, phone, inbox or Gmail app? All blacked themed with swift?
Swift Black is incredible always being updated and has options for every ROM type also Domination both have never let me down usually ROM issue if so both apply pure black Domination has accent choices where swift does not but themes more like calendar and G maps etc
Lineage has OMS support?
rez4dh said:
Lineage has OMS support?
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Not really. Some are trying to extend that :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lineage/general/progress-support-oms-t3546841
But some themes devs make them compatible with it.
Ex from the swift black description :
Boost your stock rooted ROM with this pitch black theme for the Substratum theme engine. It fully supports Android 6, 7.0 and 7.1 / Google Pixel / OxygenOS 4 / LineageOS / OMS + it works without TBO Theme ready gapps! Please read the description below before using the theme.
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And that's why sometimes, the contact app is an issue....
Kéno40 said:
There is no choice I think. Or the ambient display can't show the texts or titles (black on black), or the notification stays white...
Do you have problems on contacts, phone, inbox or Gmail app? All blacked themed with swift?
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So far only my YouTube crashes from time to time.
Exodusche said:
Swift Black is incredible always being updated and has options for every ROM type also Domination both have never let me down usually ROM issue if so both apply pure black Domination has accent choices where swift does not but themes more like calendar and G maps etc
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Did you apply all overlays? Does it not bootloop when applying the framework overlay?
Calvin2394 said:
Did you apply all overlays? Does it not bootloop when applying the framework overlay?
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Just bought it.
I choosed "V 7.1". Applied all and no bootloops.
I reopen most of themed apps and everything is OK.
Kéno40 said:
Just bought it.
I choosed "V 7.1". Applied all and no bootloops.
I reopen most of themed apps and everything is OK.
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I read that it doesn't theme framework to avoid bootloops.
What isn't themed? Notifications? Settings? Google?
Calvin2394 said:
I read that it doesn't theme framework to avoid bootloops.
What isn't themed? Notifications? Settings? Google?
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Notification are slightly grey on the lockscreen, becomes white when expanded
Settings are black with Blue neon accent.
Google is themed
For example, Inbox : open the app, the message list is all black. When you open one, all the top is black but the message is on a white zone.
On contacts and phone, it's all black....
Calvin2394 said:
I read that it doesn't theme framework to avoid bootloops.
What isn't themed? Notifications? Settings? Google?
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Only issues I've had with framework and swift black was Oxygen 3.1.4 but customs ROMs OMS, legacy (Non OMS) and OOS 3.1.3 no problems at all Domination and Compound pretty much the same
With Google plus yesterday's update, it crashes.
Had to reapply all and OK
oxygen os
my setup is oxygen os substratum theme, with oneplus 3 accents
I installed substratum and applied greyece and everything worked fine but after applying pixel theme theme stayed to greyece so I uninstalled overlay from overlay manager of substratum after that phone rebooted and stuck in boot screen...on using march03 (first build) of lineage is in zuk z1....anyway to use substratum???
Long pressing power button soft reboots. Also disabling the USB debugging allows it to boot, else just reboots & sticks on boot screen. Any recommendation?
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Long pressing power button soft reboots.
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Same here.
I boot to recovery/bootloader etc via the TWRP app.

Which themes work on our 5t with substratum?

Since the relevant thread has recently been deleted, could people please share their theming set-up with substratum?
Would not only be interesting to know which themes you guys use but also which parts thereof (not) to activate given that bootloops seem to be only one false click away.
Thanks!
Swift Black saves pixels and looks awesome on this device. You'll need root to use substratum on Nougat but assuming you knew that already.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brit.swiftblack.layers
No, wasn't aware of this, thanks! I suppose it's advised to keep the oms section off given that it's not supported on oos? Is there any way to theme notifications black as well?
frozl said:
No, wasn't aware of this, thanks! I suppose it's advised to keep the oms section off given that it's not supported on oos? Is there any way to theme notifications black as well?
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Never had reliable consistency with that in the past so I didn't both trying that with this phone. Everything themes black perfectly. I leave the SystemUI alone and let the notifications come in default white.
From my experiences with Substratum on this phone, leave SystemUI and Android system alone. All 3rd party apps can be themed. So for Swift Black what you might wanna do is theme the apps and then change the system theme internally in settings to dark and then you basically got the full theme
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iamterence said:
From my experiences with Substratum on this phone, leave SystemUI and Android system alone. All 3rd party apps can be themed. So for Swift Black what you might wanna do is theme the apps and then change the system theme internally in settings to dark and then you basically got the full theme
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Yeah, that's what I ended up doing now. Cheers.

Advice for Substratum black theme on stock rooted 8.1

Hi guys,
I've been using the AOSPUI black theme on my Nexus 6P and it worked fine on Nougat.
I now have a Pixel 2 XL on stock rooted Oreo 8.1. The same theme behaves in a weird way and some pop-up windows and the power menu have black on black text. I reached out to the dev and he says it should work properly but I can't seem to be able to make it work.
Now I'm looking for another black theme that works flawlessly on stock rooted. Found a few but need some advice, so would you get:
- Swift black,
- Pi Dark,
- Flux,
- something else?
I need a black theme where EVERYTHING works. Free themes are also welcome.
Thanks!
Ghisy said:
Hi guys,
I've been using the AOSPUI black theme on my Nexus 6P and it worked fine on Nougat.
I now have a Pixel 2 XL on stock rooted Oreo 8.1. The same theme behaves in a weird way and some pop-up windows and the power menu have black on black text. I reached out to the dev and he says it should work properly but I can't seem to be able to make it work.
Now I'm looking for another black theme that works flawlessly on stock rooted. Found a few but need some advice, so would you get:
- Swift black,
- Pi Dark,
- Flux,
- something else?
I need a black theme where EVERYTHING works. Free themes are also welcome.
Thanks!
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Swift Black works for me very well. But the first time you install a theme, you can run into weird problems because the theme hasn't been updated for the newest version of the Google apps yet.
When I did a clean install last week, Swift Black wouldn't theme my Google app. An update a few days later fixed this.
So I disable automatic updates and wait for a Swift Black update after the apps which I have themed are updated. This way it alsways works with Swift Black.
But to theme GBoard, you need to read the FAQ (some manual steps are required).
Hope that helps.
Ghisy said:
Hi guys,
I've been using the AOSPUI black theme on my Nexus 6P and it worked fine on Nougat.
I now have a Pixel 2 XL on stock rooted Oreo 8.1. The same theme behaves in a weird way and some pop-up windows and the power menu have black on black text. I reached out to the dev and he says it should work properly but I can't seem to be able to make it work.
Now I'm looking for another black theme that works flawlessly on stock rooted. Found a few but need some advice, so would you get:
- Swift black,
- Pi Dark,
- Flux,
- something else?
I need a black theme where EVERYTHING works. Free themes are also welcome.
Thanks!
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Domination is another outstanding black theme that gets updated regularly. Also, keep in mind that it's ok to use overlays from different themes on certain apps while your waiting for theme updates should your base theme not work on a particular app :good:
Swift black FTW
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I use Swift Black for system UI and settings, Compound for phone. Swift Black leaves a huge blue frame on the dialer UI for me. Looks horrid.
BabelHuber said:
When I did a clean install last week, Swift Black wouldn't theme my Google app. An update a few days later fixed this.
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I don't theme Google apps actually. My problem is with the "Android system" overlay on my theme.
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Domination is another outstanding black theme that gets updated regularly. Also, keep in mind that it's ok to use overlays from different themes on certain apps while your waiting for theme updates should your base theme not work on a particular app :good:
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Like I said above, the only overlay that gives me trouble is the "Android system" one. If I activate it (black with Pixel accent colors), my pop-up windows are black on black and my power menu blue on blue, i.e. I can't see any text. It's odd, it worked well on Nougat.
Edit: I wonder if it's the automatic (and stupid) day/night mode from Oreo that's being a PITA? Because my current wallpaper is dark and it triggers the dark mode for some stuff. Why did Google add this and not a toggle to enable/disable it?!
Ghisy said:
I don't theme Google apps actually. My problem is with the "Android system" overlay on my theme.
Like I said above, the only overlay that gives me trouble is the "Android system" one. If I activate it (black with Pixel accent colors), my pop-up windows are black on black and my power menu blue on blue, i.e. I can't see any text. It's odd, it worked well on Nougat.
Edit: I wonder if it's the automatic (and stupid) day/night mode from Oreo that's being a PITA? Because my current wallpaper is dark and it triggers the dark mode for some stuff. Why did Google add this and not a toggle to enable/disable it?!
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I think the only elements that are affected by the wallpaper theme (auto dark/light mode) are quick settings and notification bar.
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I think the only elements that are affected by the wallpaper theme (auto dark/light mode) are quick settings and notification bar.
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It also themes the power menu, which is one of the areas that don't get themed properly. I also switched to a light wallpaper and all my QS were gone (probably black on black again)! Something is definitely fishy on Oreo :/
Ghisy said:
It also themes the power menu, which is one of the areas that don't get themed properly. I also switched to a light wallpaper and all my QS were gone (probably black on black again)! Something is definitely fishy on Oreo :/
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I don't have the issue you describe using Swift Black for system.
Same here, I'm 100% stock using swift black and couldn't be happier. No issues at all.
I'm guessing Swift Black is the winner here!
About the power menu, it's actually the advanced power menu that isn't themed properly (the one added by Gravity Box through Xposed). And also random pop-up windows like when I'm connecting a Bluetooth device.
I use Spectrum as my main theme. Domination is my second theme and is used to theme apps that Spectrum doesn't, such as XDA Labs. It also is used for the Google apps when Spectrum can't theme the app, though that can be hit or miss. For example, Photos cannot be changed to black by either theme at the moment.
Google seems to update their apps every other day, which gives the themers headaches. Of course, in Android P it may all end up being moot.
PitchBlack is my go theme... Updates regularly and plenty options..
Pixel 2 XL
JoeNeckbone said:
Same here, I'm 100% stock using swift black and couldn't be happier. No issues at all.
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After posting this I thought to myself, hope I didn't jinx myself....fast forward to now, 4 updates later to both substratum engine/swift black.... contacts and phone are not theming...I'm sure it'll be fixed soon but funny how that works. Anyone else having same problem?
Ghisy said:
It also themes the power menu, which is one of the areas that don't get themed properly. I also switched to a light wallpaper and all my QS were gone (probably black on black again)! Something is definitely fishy on Oreo :/
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JoeNeckbone said:
After posting this I thought to myself, hope I didn't jinx myself....fast forward to now, 4 updates later to both substratum engine/swift black.... contacts and phone are not theming...I'm sure it'll be fixed soon but funny how that works. Anyone else having same problem?
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Are you creating the modules then rebooting before applying? Since March update that's what you need to do. The modules will show up after rebooting.
Str0ntium said:
Are you creating the modules then rebooting before applying? Since March update that's what you need to do. The modules will show up after rebooting.
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I'm creating the overlays using the "build & update" option then rebooting and applying them. If you don't reboot, they don't show up in the Substratum manager.
Right now, I'm waiting to get a payment from Rewards so I can buy one theme or two. We'll see.
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Are you creating the modules then rebooting before applying? Since March update that's what you need to do. The modules will show up after rebooting.
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I disabled all overlays, rebooted, everything was stock theme. Did build and enable for swift black, rebooted, (twice) everything but contacts and phone is themed. Did this quickly this morning before work, maybe a error on my part. Will try again tonight.
JoeNeckbone said:
I disabled all overlays, rebooted, everything was stock theme. Did build and enable for swift black, rebooted, (twice) everything but contacts and phone is themed. Did this quickly this morning before work, maybe a error on my part. Will try again tonight.
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I would delete the overlays before rebuilding them.
On my Pixel 2 XL stock (Not Rooted) I still have to Build/Enable and then reboot and enable again. Does anyone else have this issue? I should not need to "Enable" overlays twice.
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I would delete the overlays before rebuilding them.
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Now that you mention it, I'm almost positive I did delete and not disable. Either way I'll check it out later, thanks for the advice.

Substratum working on Pie 9.0 OOS OB20

I've been using Substratum for a couple of years, and I've never had the engine soft brick a device until now. For anyone interested, Swift Substratum theme works really well on Pie OOS.
There's a theme engine that uses Swift as it's base, so if you've already purchased Swift Theme, don't purchase Swift Theme Engine.
If you want to use Substratum, use Pie compatible themes and don't use Clean-Locksreen or Curve for now with this beta build.
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I've been using Substratum for a couple of years, and I've never had the engine soft brick a device until now. For anyone interested, Swift Substratum theme works really well on Pie OOS.
There's a theme engine that uses Swift as it's base, so if you've already purchased Swift Theme, don't purchase Swift Theme Engine.
If you want to use Substratum, use Pie compatible themes and don't use Clean-Locksreen or Curve for now with this beta build.
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Do you happen to know any theme that has centered clock and works with OB20? Ozone theme doesn't work with pie and I'm doubtful that it will get updated since the last update was months ago...
I really miss centered clock
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Do you happen to know any theme that has centered clock and works with OB20? Ozone theme doesn't work with pie and I'm doubtful that it will get updated since the last update was months ago...
I really miss centered clock
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You'll probably have to wait for Xposed to become available for Pie. Funny thing, on Oreo, everyone was asking for mods to put clock on left side, and now you want centered clock on Pie. Options, options, options, don't you love Android.
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