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[Q][DISCUSSION] Best Video-Recording App?

Hey HOX users!
Which App do you think is the for recording video on the HOX?
The Sense-Camera makes videos which are quite OK, however the compression is way to strong and the framerate isn't good - as many discussions show.
Additionally, I've switched to CM9 (because of design, speed, battery, settings...), so I don't have the Sense-Camera anymore.
CM9's stock camera-app records bad video and crashes very often - I use Camera FV-5 for taking photos, and the quality is awesome
So there has to be a equal alternative for recording video!
Do you know good video-recorders, which do you use?
Greets

Unfortunately, there a next to no video recording apps for android because it has to be specifically designed for the camera.

brentett said:
Unfortunately, there a next to no video recording apps for android because it has to be specifically designed for the camera.
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Yeah, I noticed that too, very sad though :/
I think the HOX is capable of shooting really great Videos with 60fps @ 720p, if there was an app capable of using monster

fekle said:
Yeah, I noticed that too, very sad though :/
I think the HOX is capable of shooting really great Videos with 60fps @ 720p, if there was an app capable of using monster
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Yes.. that app is the Camera.apk that comes with the Sense ROMs. The drivers and the app are very tightly intergrated. I doubt CM9 developers will ever develop something as good as HTC when it comes to that

you should use lgCamera, you got a free version "Lite" and a paid, "Pro"
you'll get 2 apps.. one camera and one video recording
with the camera, you'll get uncompressed pictures, they'll be ~4,5mb instead of ~1,5mb
with the video recorder, you can change:
Bitrate: HTC uses 11mbps and Galaxy S3 uses 17mbps for 1080p... with this app, you can set it up to 100mbps, but that's overkill, just put it at 20mbps (with this, you get smooth recording)
Sound quality: you can record stereo sound and max 320kbps with 48hz
record in 3gp or mp4 (mp4 will be played with hardware)

Camera ICS+ all the way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.cameraicsplus

zerozoneice said:
Camera ICS+ all the way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.cameraicsplus
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only record 720p? and double bitrate is 7mbps??
lgCamera is way better!

lgCamera doesn't work for me (and reading comments in GPlay, for many).
I see the buttons, but video feedback (viewfinder) is just black. When trying to record video, it says "Video recording failed".
So yeah...

Super-Veloce said:
only record 720p? and double bitrate is 7mbps??
lgCamera is way better!
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HUH?
1080p @ 33mbps for starters....

DarkDvr said:
lgCamera doesn't work for me (and reading comments in GPlay, for many).
I see the buttons, but video feedback (viewfinder) is just black. When trying to record video, it says "Video recording failed".
So yeah...
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they made lgCamera availble for One X
had black screen too with lite, but not with pro
try restarting your device, this could work
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zerozoneice said:
HUH?
1080p @ 33mbps for starters....
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I can set bitrate to 2x but I can't select 1080p video recording?

Super-Veloce said:
I can set bitrate to 2x but I can't select 1080p video recording?
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Hi,
slide the option in menu left and right to change
cheers
starbase64
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zerozoneice said:
HUH?
1080p @ 33mbps for starters....
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Hi,
i have pro version and with bitrate 2x only 23fps
cheers
starbase64

I guess I got a different Camera ICS+.. can't get more video recording settings.. I can only move up and down

sorry wrong thread, pls delete.

[Q] HD Playback issue.

Is it just me or there's something wrong about playing HD videos on Nexus 7 2? It looks like "pixelated".

Well that certainly isn't HD video. This may be an issue with your internet than the actual device itself.

codemonkey98 said:
Well that certainly isn't HD video. This may be an issue with your internet than the actual device itself.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm quite sure that's HD. I downloaded that video 1080p using IDM.

pokemaniac15 said:
Thanks for the reply. I'm quite sure that's HD. I downloaded that video 1080p using IDM.
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That isn't 1080p. I can assure you that. That has to be 320p.
I'll put a movie onto my Nexus that is 1080p and I'll see if it's like that tonight.

Is this the one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk
It's 720p, and at certain points a bit pixellated with contours.

Pandae said:
Is this the one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk
It's 720p, and at certain points a bit pixellated with contours.
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I do not see any pixels. It may be the download manager you are using or your stream. I've attached a YouTube image from my browser, along with my Nexus 7 screenshot for you.

I use Flash Video Downloader, which downloads the entire file directly, rather than copying a stream. I'm also watching it on a full-size PC monitor, so the larger and brighter pixels let me see where the video quality isn't that great. At certain points it's clear (pun intended) with the video. In fact, I just noticed it's only 1280x534. Sometimes I wonder if "HD" videos people upload were upscaled from DVD.
Take for example this still at 0:42, saved as PNG with zero compression. JPG at 100% has similar quality.
Anyway, if this is the video the person's talking about, even if he had great throughput and HD on, it's not 1080p.
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Of the two screenshots you posted, the left has pixellation, and the second is contoured.

Pandae said:
I use Flash Video Downloader, which downloads the entire file directly, rather than copying a stream. I'm also watching it on a full-size PC monitor, so the larger and brighter pixels let me see where the video quality isn't that great. At certain points it's clear (pun intended) with the video. In fact, I just noticed it's only 1280x534. Sometimes I wonder if "HD" videos people upload were upscaled from DVD.
Take for example this still at 0:42, saved as PNG with zero compression. JPG at 100% has similar quality.
-snip-
Anyway, if this is the video the person's talking about, even if he had great throughput and HD on, it's not 1080p.
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Of the two screenshots you posted, the left has pixellation, and the second is contoured.
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The left I can see pixels after a quick glimpse. My eyes are pretty bad but I do not see how the image on the right is contoured.
If it is what you say it is, then it's just an upscaled DVD rip and not actually blueray.

How do we get HDR playback? YouTube, Netflix etc

As title says, YouTube doesn't have any HDR option (also, how can we get 2160p YouTube playback) and neither does Netflix?
Tablet should support it right? Hopefully you guys will know more.
Edit: tried YouTube Vance and it still didn't have 2160p or HRD. iYTBP settings, only Force VP9 is listed?

Dedusa23 said:
As title says, YouTube doesn't have any HDR option (also, how can we get 2160p YouTube playback) and neither does Netflix?
Tablet should support it right? Hopefully you guys will know more.
Edit: tried YouTube Vance and it still didn't have 2160p or HRD. iYTBP settings, only Force VP9 is listed?
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Netflix says that HDR is supported on S3 and S4 according to the Android FAQ:
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
As for 2160p (which is also known as 4K/UHD), this screen does not have such high resolution. It's a 1600p screen, which is a taller version of 1440p, which is also known as Quad HD. Netflix will do either 1080p or 2160p, so you should be getting 1080p on a 1600p screen at best, but the image will be stretched to fill the screen.

Youtube sadly doesn't play HDR, Netflix does show HDR badge but it doesn't actually play in HDR and it maxes out at 720p.

Too51oll said:
Netflix does show HDR badge but it doesn't actually play in HDR and it maxes out at 720p.
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How do you know that? Neflix shows the badge and I was thinking it plays in HDR.
Youtube is a no go for now. So is Amazon Prime. I think it's just too new device.

Played "Test patterns" to determine resolution, as to HDR I've visually compared the same frame between HDR TV and tablet and there is clearly more detail visible on TV.

I completely agree. Youtube does support HDR on my galaxy s9+ but doesnt on the tab s4, which is crazy to me since though I think people do consume a lot of media on their phones HDR really comes into play when watching movies and shows which is being done on tablets much more then phones. Also the Netflix thing, I can't say I can see if HDR is on or off since compared to my tv it will always look worse, but the 720p thing is unacceptable and ruins the experience.

I just got the tab S3 and found out i cant watch youtube HDR lol. I create HDR gaming videos and check them with my s8 phone and wanted to do that with the tab because of bigger screen but it seems the s3 and s4 are both a piece of junk lol. Putting an HDR screen in it, advertise with it but lock it out for most apps. Even Netflix doesnt trigger hdr, yes it shows the logo but its not shown as HDR, doesnt trigger at all.

jansenonline said:
I completely agree. Youtube does support HDR on my galaxy s9+ but doesnt on the tab s4, which is crazy to me since though I think people do consume a lot of media on their phones HDR really comes into play when watching movies and shows which is being done on tablets much more then phones. Also the Netflix thing, I can't say I can see if HDR is on or off since compared to my tv it will always look worse, but the 720p thing is unacceptable and ruins the experience.
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What a disapointment this discovery was.
Youtube looks aweful on Tab S4 compared to Galaxy S9.
I also tried NetFlix HDR series, but here it was the other way around. Looks really bad on S9, like there is less color gradients to choose from compared on Tab S4.
Watching the candle-light sequence the first minute of Outlaw King-series ep 1, you can clearly see the diffrent shades of colors around the light. But on the Tab S4 there is a smooth no boarder color shift around the light.
Look at this picture I took of my phone and tablet at the same moment in the scene.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

I spoke with Netflix - they don't give a thing about you as a customer. I rightout cancelled the UHD Subscription because of the way netflix so called customer service (it is a bad, bad joke) is treating me as a customer and building walls to make it as hard as they can for you to get anything through to them. You can only call or chat, no email . this is ridicolous.
Well, anyway, test patterns are showing that it is maxing out at 720 on this screen, which has 4 times the pixels 720 is showing. Using an older client version (prior 5.3.1), you get at least 1080. Netflix does not care about this and tells you to 'tune your internet connection'. Sure, my 500/200 Fiber connection. With ipad and older client versions playing 1080 at the same time, if needed, but the current client not playing 1080. And then they just stop there. No, this is all we can do. Wenn, you didn't do a thing besides taking my money avery month.
So, no more netflix. Sorry for OT.

Dedusa23 said:
As title says, YouTube doesn't have any HDR option (also, how can we get 2160p YouTube playback) and neither does Netflix?
Tablet should support it right? Hopefully you guys will know more.
Edit: tried YouTube Vance and it still didn't have 2160p or HRD. iYTBP settings, only Force VP9 is listed?
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We have 1600p screen. I obtain 1440p60fps on YouTube. On Netflix I can see material marked as HDR eg 13 reasons why.

All true
Netflix is shameful, so sad.
HDR series are ok, but with 720p
All non HDR is limited in bandwith and looks poor. I have the old 1080p version and i use that version for non HDR and current for HDR....seems a fair compromise.
Comparing some scenes of hannibal, day and night.
Do as I do is my recommendation
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On amazon is tricky, the app is so strange.
All works ok 1080p and hdr works when you can find it.
I am not sure how to kick hdr content or even find it.
You can find the same series with hd without and with hdr... is weird
But it is supported and looks great, for example the grand tour

Youtube HDR videos do look like they are playing in HDR.
My Note 8 shows options in the resolution playback that include "HDR", but the S4 does not.
I'm going to guess this is an android 8.1 bug or feature.. as both the Note 8 and the S4 have the same version of Youtube.

I wanna thank you for discussing this here because i was minutes away from purchasing from south korea the 6gb ram version for 850 euro. I was so dissapointed with this discovery. Such a shame for a tablet coming from samsung and so powerful with an amoled screen not to be utilized to be used to its fullest potentials. Ipad or google surface supports full hdr netflix/ youtube??

Hi folks, I sadly see this is still a thing.
I was gifted a TabS4 for Christmas and although the screen is stunning, the lack of HDR playback is frustrating.
YouTube, Prime, Netflix.....what gives?
On YouTube I can play any HDR video on my Galaxy S9+ and it players perfectly 1440p HDR. Using YouTube Vanced it will even state it's outputting 2160p HDR (I know that's beyond the screen resolution)
Run them exact same videos & I get the same Res but zero HDR.
Anyone had any contact with any of these providers or Samsung?
I've just tweeted them all now, I'll report back if I hear anything because this is not acceptable. Ill happily get this tab replaced with something that works.....though I'll miss the screen!
Link to tweet:
https://twitter.com/ToonTonic/status/1079183612963184641?s=19

Can the tab S4 play 1440p correctly in YouTube?

IshamTheGreat said:
Can the tab S4 play 1440p correctly in YouTube?
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Yes plays 1440p fine on YouTube, plays 2160p fine too on Vanced.

Have any of you guys tried comparing the HDR of the Tab S4 with another device?
I downloaded a video demo and put the Tab S4 next to an S8 and it was disappointing how much better the S8 looks.
The Tab S4 doesn't even look like HDR, it just looks like SDR with a wider color gamut and the brightness blown up.
Besides I found the same vid on YouTube and I compared it to the local file I downloaded, and both look the same, which is odd because supposedly YouTube doesn't support HDR on the Tab S4.
And the local file is definitely playing on HDR because I get the label on the top left corner when using the Samsung Player.

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And the local file is definitely playing on HDR because I get the label on the top left corner when using the Samsung Player.
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What label are you seeing?
I have both HDR10 and Dolby Vision files and I see no label indicating HDR in the Samsung player.
I know the content is HDR by checking with mediainfo, but I do not see how to tell if anything is actually playing in HDR.
-Pie

EatingPie said:
What label are you seeing?
I have both HDR10 and Dolby Vision files and I see no label indicating HDR in the Samsung player.
I know the content is HDR by checking with mediainfo, but I do not see how to tell if anything is actually playing in HDR.
-Pie
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This one (I can't post direct links due to the 10 message limit):
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You can find the raw video over at 4K media dot org, click "Samsung UHD Demos" on the right pane, video is called "Samsung x RedBull: See the Unexpected HDR".
You'll find the video on YouTube as: "Real 4K HDR 60fps: See the Unexpected from Samsung and RedBull in HDR", the channel is called "The HDR Channel".
I also subscribed to the Netflix HDR plan and I'm not seeing any significant difference. I'm pretty convinced this tablet can't do true HDR.
So I'm not surprised YouTube didn't even bother making the app for the device HDR-ready, they probably know it's fake-HDR, just like the Tab S3.

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This one (I can't post direct links due to the 10 message limit):
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You can find the raw video over at 4K media dot org, click "Samsung UHD Demos" on the right pane, video is called "Samsung x RedBull: See the Unexpected HDR".
You'll find the video on YouTube as: "Real 4K HDR 60fps: See the Unexpected from Samsung and RedBull in HDR", the channel is called "The HDR Channel".
I also subscribed to the Netflix HDR plan and I'm not seeing any significant difference. I'm pretty convinced this tablet can't do true HDR.
So I'm not surprised YouTube didn't even bother making the app for the device HDR-ready, they probably know it's fake-HDR, just like the Tab S3.
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Thanks for the reply. User error on my part.
I used the "My Files" app to select the video and direct launch "Video Player" (purple icon). No HDR. By chance I ended up going to Galaxy App store, and found "Samsung Video Player" listed as not installed. I installed it, launched it, and sure enough I now get the "[HDR]" tag on the title.
I compared playback in HDR to VLC, and I could tell the Samsung Video Player looked different/better. Primarily in terms of brightness. I think the colors looked a bit more vivid, but I cannot eliminate the possibility of the "louder sounds better" phenomenom here.
-Pie

Question Is the display broken? Colors?

I noticed a problem when watching Youtube videos. For example this video
I can watch that video just fine on a Poco x3 pro (also SD 860 and 120hz), but on the Pad 5 there is a problem. I don't see anything until 10 nits in the video. I also cranked up the brightness to the max. On my mobile I can see something much earlier - with normal brightness.
Does anybody have an idea what the problem could be?

Mine starts from 1 nit onwards, if I enable screen balance app 0.5 nit. Tbh I hate the screen. This device is called 'media consumption'. I can't enjoy a movie when blacks are absent
I am regretting my decision tbh. Should have bought a basic oled device.

I just realized that when I use Newpipe instead I can see the colored boxes from 0.2 nits onwards. So it is not necessarily a screen issue?
I am wondering what could be the difference between Newpipe and Youtube?

Could also be youtubes own codec for videos. However, the ips panel used on mi pad 5 lacks any depth or contrast. checked couple of reviews. One says contrast is 1300:1 the other says 550:1 . What I can tell is, I am not gonna watch a movie on this tablet.

I was reading someone today saying that YouTube only displays HDR with the AV1 codec.
No idea if true or not

With max brightness after 2 nit , in normal brightness after 3 nits

Thanks for your answers and testing!
I guess, there is indeed something broken in the Xiaomi Pad 5. I noticed that the display problem only happens when you play HDR movies. The Netflix movie quality is good in my case. but only because my plan does not include HDR apparently. HDR movies look ok with Newpipe, because Newpipe does not support HDR ...
HDR is basically broken on all Pad 5 tablets. Wow!

Atheosun said:
I was reading someone today saying that YouTube only displays HDR with the AV1 codec.
No idea if true or not
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Seems to be multiple Codecs for hdr.
Well I am stuck w this tablet. Have to find a way to enjoy it, somehow

Thank you for the added information @parser
What application is that? Very cool the way it displays all formats available

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Thank you for the added information @parser
What application is that? Very cool the way it displays all formats available
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My pleasure,
This is an app called smart tube next. Just Google it. Devs name is yuliskov. It has a github page.
Even though I have youtube premium, I use his YouTube app on my firetv.

Ah yes, i hear it is a superb application.
I too pay for Youtube Premium, but will load it up on my Shield TV as Shield users mention how good it is, all the time.
Thank you! @parser

Question HDR is broken. How to disable HDR?

I just found out that HDR is broken on the Pad 5 ...
Is there a way to disable HDR on the Pad 5 in order to prevent apps like Youtube from playing HDR content etc?
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My device is rooted.

If you can use these players
Normal HDR: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=is.xyz.mpv
Dolby Vision: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brouken.player
You need both of them in tandem. MPV can't do correct DV but can do correct HDR10, Just player can do DV but HDR10 will be dark.
The Mi player is a trash, cant do any of these.

Thank you. I already have workaround(s) on app level. But I would like to disable HDR system wide, since HDR is broken.
Is there any hack to "turn off" HDR on the Pad 5?

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If you can use these players
Normal HDR: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=is.xyz.mpv
Dolby Vision: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brouken.player
You need both of them in tandem. MPV can't do correct DV but can do correct HDR10, Just player can do DV but HDR10 will be dark.
The Mi player is a trash, cant do any of these.
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OH wow, tried both, you are right. Couldn't try DV but hdr 10 was darker in just player. Thanks for the info mate. At least Videos became a little bit bearable on this ips panel

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OH wow, tried both, you are right. Couldn't try DV but hdr 10 was darker in just player. Thanks for the info mate. At least Videos became a little bit bearable on this ips panel
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You mean HDR videos, right? SDR videos look excellent IMHO.

romhippo.com said:
You mean HDR videos, right? SDR videos look excellent IMHO.
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Tbh I mean videos in general. Videos look excellent until it is a night view in the video. I wish it was usb 3 at least so that we could connect it to a better display. Unfortunate

O god disney+ hdr on my mi10T are pitch black when the scene is night or dark

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O god disney+ hdr on my mi10T are pitch black when the scene is night or dark
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just enable outdoor mode in the video toolbox, it's solved everything for me.