Backup options (rooted, but no TWRP)? - Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 Questions & Answers

Rooted it with Magisk via Odin. Are there options to make a full backup of system data boot without a custom recovery being available? Maybe with Odin?

guess not...? i've been reading about something about dumping partitions to Odin. Anyone know anything about this?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga.../recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-galaxy-tab-s4-t3843211

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[solved] Help! cannot restore stock rom!

few days ago I just flashed cwm recovery and made a backup for every partition, after that I flashed the cm7.2.
but now when I want to go back to stock, I cannot restore the backup. it seemed that the recovery cannot format the partitions into rfs. (even I used the rfs+ext4 recovery)
anyone has any ideas?
Did you have an ext4 partition when you did the backup? I've experienced problems with the CWM backup a couple of times because it's not getting along well with ext4 partitions so I had to go from scratch a couple of times because I couldn't do a restore. For Galaxy Gio, I would recommend you to use Titanium Backup instead of CWM Recovery from now on if don't want to get into trouble with backups and stuff.
Just flash a new firmware via ODIN.
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Just flash a new firmware via ODIN.
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thanks for replies but my original firmware contains chinese which cannot available here
Try this:
1) flash some stock multi-package firmware (that would format your FS to rfs from ext4); shouldn't matter much what firmware you flash, just something Gingerbread-ish to allow CWM to work, as you only need it to format partitions
2) flash CWM (or install via update.zip method from recovery) that works with stock firmware (I believe it's the one with rfs+ext4 support but you better check in CWM thread)
3) restore your stock ROM backup
Have you checked Samsung firmware websites like samfirmware to see if they had yours?
If not, there are instructions here on creating an Odin flashable backup, which you could do if you have access to another, unmodified Gio.
Otherwise, look into the workings of CWM. You may be capable of DD'ing the nandroid files manually, but don't take my word for it.
thanks everyone who replied, i finally figured out what's wrong.
It turned out to be the problem that no CWM for gio could format the partitions into rfs therefore they kept giving me errors when i tried to restore.
and after some trials, I found that the CWM for CM7 (cwm-v2.zip) can actually restore my backup, but with the system, data, cache formated in ext3. Therefore with the stock kernel, it won't boot.
Final remedy: use CWM for CM7 to restore the backup, then flash a custom kernel for stock rom.
crescal said:
thanks everyone who replied, i finally figured out what's wrong.
It turned out to be the problem that no CWM for gio could format the partitions into rfs therefore they kept giving me errors when i tried to restore.
and after some trials, I found that the CWM for CM7 (cwm-v2.zip) can actually restore my backup, but with the system, data, cache formated in ext3. Therefore with the stock kernel, it won't boot.
Final remedy: use CWM for CM7 to restore the backup, then flash a custom kernel for stock rom.
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Which kernel? Im in your exact situation, i got the cwm you mention and it restored the back up and flashing the kernel for stock rom with lots of options claiming to support ext4 i get boot loops. If you can tell me what kernel you booted with i will be very grateful. Tomorrow is my daughters bday and i need my korean gio with different wifi hardware to tether to my tablet for ideo chat, which only works with stock. Thank you.

[Q] Need some adivse PLEASE!!!!

So this is the situation,
I have SPH-l710 Rooted with CWM, I THOUGHT I made a backup of my stock system.....It made a image.zip and an image directory. SOOOO I flashed the phone with CM121...........In light of all the issues I could not get my camera to work with any app, them CM121 updated, Google play got stuck in a error force close loop that could only be avoided by logging into a separate user account on lollipop. Which is where the camera began to work oddly enough. Anyways I use my camera constantly and wanted to revert back to my 4.4.2 kitkat. SOOOO I booted into recovery and when I selected restore it couldnt find anything. So I installed from the image.zip and everything appeared to be fine EXECPT I couldnt get passed the second samsung logo right after the animation. Just stuck........How can I restore my poor phone back to my system image I have saved?
I tried this multiple times, then just reloaded CM121. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
the wipe/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik x 3
You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
Powered_By_Linux said:
You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
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L710VPUCNJ3
I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
aanddink said:
L710VPUCNJ3
I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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Here's a good thread on instructions for flashing the ndc modem. If you use sprint, flashing nj2 should be the same process, just a different .tar. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774333
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
aanddink said:
OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
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I think Odin can only flash tars. Ideally, you'd want to restore the backup with the software that made it.
aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
madbat99 said:
Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
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Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
aanddink said:
Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
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By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
madbat99 said:
By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
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Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
aanddink said:
Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
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If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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Not taken the wrong way, I am limited knowledge on the subject and that's why I ended up with problems. I appreciate the help since I could not get anyone to respond.
madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
aanddink said:
I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
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Nd8 will work, however nj2 is the sprint equivalent to nj3 (latest update). It works fine. It's the last one I used. You may need to do the dialer activation code to get service working after you flash. I think it's ##72786# . I'll check.
here is nj2.

Is there a way to Backup Stock Boot, Recovery and ROM without custom recovery?

Hey guys. It's been a while since the HTC 10 has been out and just throwing the question out there if anyone has figured out a way to make a backup of the stock Boot, Recovery, and System without flashing a custom recovery first ?
The reason:
I originally rooted my phone but couldn't get any of the OTA updates. Upgraded stock recoveries weren't available at the time and there were no RUU files for my carrier either. Eventually some of the upgraded stock recoveries became available but now we are on version 1.95.710.3 and again, no stock recovery is available for this version.
I want to be able to make a full backup (without flashing a custom recovery) so that I can flash TWRP to Boot, make a TWRP backup of Recovery and Rom, then do a restore from the original backup, flash TWRP to recovery and backup Boot as well. Then merge the 2 to make a full TWRP backup file to upload and post up on these forums for people with the same CID.
So, has anyone figured out a way to make a full backup without altering any of the boot, recovery or system partitions ?

Can anyone send me backup of the super partition dond in twrp?

I accidentally flashed an image to the super partition with twrp thinking it was the system partition (it technically is tho) and it bricked my phone and messed up twrp.
Only stock recovery works but the stock recovery cannot fix it by installing a full ota from a otg drive.
I do have a backup on my phone but it is inaccessable.
Could anyone please send me a backup of the super partition or have any idea on how to fix this?
(I tried to use edl and backup my data to recover my backup of the super partition but it seemed like it needed a programmer binary from qualcomm)
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I accidentally flashed an image to the super partition with twrp thinking it was the system partition (it technically is tho) and it bricked my phone and messed up twrp.
Only stock recovery works but the stock recovery cannot fix it by installing a full ota from a otg drive.
I do have a backup on my phone but it is inaccessable.
Could anyone please send me a backup of the super partition or have any idea on how to fix this?
(I tried to use edl and backup my data to recover my backup of the super partition but it seemed like it needed a programmer binary from qualcomm)
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Don't suppose you figured this out, I'm having a similar issue.... Have just seen TWRP now supports dynamic partitions which I guess might help?
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I accidentally flashed an image to the super partition with twrp thinking it was the system partition
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klanbo78 said:
Don't suppose you figured this out, I'm having a similar issue.... Have just seen TWRP now supports dynamic partitions which I guess might help?
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If you fastboot to TWRP you can install one of the full updates from the site. The update zips ( at least the full versions downloadable from the red magic.gg site will be enough to get your phone's working again.
The zips are official, so they will overwrite your recovery when flashed, but flash just the same without error over TWRP. Make sure you backup your data partition, and do a full wipe before so you can start fresh.
Thanks for that, I don't actually have the Red Magic, I did a forum wide search for the issue. Was hoping the fix would be similar for my device.
My phone doesn't have TWRP yet (Oppo Find X2 pro) ?

Question How does restoring work in this phone?

For context, I want to clear up a few things before trying to root so I don't end up bricking the phone.
So after reading a few threads it seems even recovering via twrp is messed up in this phone. Can someone shed some light on this matter?
Can I restore system, data, and boot partitions via twrp in case something goes wrong (while staying on official miui roms everytime, I don't intend to install custom roms) and I have to revert the phone back to the state it was in at the time of a backup?
It feels like at the very least we would be required to re-flash the entire firmware via mi flash tool and then restore whatever is needed via twrp later. Will this work?
Also I hear using twrp to install the official firmware is not a good idea, what's that about?
I know long post and a lot of questions, so please bear with me.
Thanks.
Custom ROMs and Stock ROMs differ in one aspect, which partitions are left untouched. Since stock ROM is a lot more invasive and formats all partitions, official flash method is recommended.
When you mess things up, mi flash tool is safest option. Its safe to experiment, backup, restore on boot+system+data in TWRP across ROM installs but don't mess up recovery partition. Remember to format data between ROM installs unless dirty flashing on same android version
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Custom ROMs and Stock ROMs differ...
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I see. Thank you for the reply!

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