Should I buy Tab S4 or not? - Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 Questions & Answers

Basically, I have always been an Android user back to the early days when XDA was helping users to install Android on their Windows Mobile devices. I akways had devices like Nexus 5, 7, Tab S 8.4, etc. However currently I am terribly depressed with the tablet options out there. I'm not crazy about Samsung experience and apps. I have a Pixel 2 XL I'm pretty happy with.
I never liked Apple much due to the closed nature of their ecosystem. However I always envied their hardware and the simplicity and high performance. From what I've read, the soon to be replaced iPad pro processor A10x easily beats Samsung's shiny new Tab S4 processor Snapdragon 835. Lately, it seems like iOS has opened up a bit slightly... But still can't do all the things Android can do.
So my question is, based on my background... Do you think I would enjoy the Tab s4? For what reason did you choose to hand Samsung over so much money vs the tried and true iPad? I am hesitant to drop so much money on the same processor running on my phone from a year ago. What are your thoughts on the S4?
Also I would be buying the LTE Verizon version to use on TMobile. Does root work there too?

It's the same question I had, but I've always been an android user and in the end I took this tab, even if the latest ipad (not Pro) seems to be a bargain and even supports the pencil.
I can tell you the experience is very good, great battery, great screen, and also dex behaves very well (even if reviews say the opposite). The pen is very well implemented and when you get used to it, it's really a bonus, even if now you think you don't need it.
But I've never tried an ipad and probably it's wonderful, with better apps (they're expensive, but if you don't buy the pro you have a lot of money to spend for the apps).
Also keep in mind that the ipad can't wirelessly mirror the screen to a TV and can't read a Ntfs usb stick.
In the end I don't think you'll be disappointed whatever choice you'll take, it's just up to you to understand which tab better suits to your needs.
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I had a lot of doubts like you too. To be honest, I would probably not have bought it if not for the free upgrade to 256gb in my region. Regardless, it is a great tablet to me, beautiful, quite snappy (way way better than Tab S3) and has an awesome screen. Regarding Android apps, you should probably be aware too, most apps are going to say 'it's not optimised for your device' in the playstore but they are usable nevertheless.
DeX mode is really cute too, seeing it 'turns' into a pesudo mini laptop which may or may not be useful to you. This is part of the reason I bought it too to use as a partial laptop
Bottomline, Tab S4 is a much better buy for me compared to the Tab S3 which I bought for only slightly cheaper 1.5 yrs ago (only 32gb storage and laggy as hell!!).

Thanks guys. I am leaning towards getting the Tab S4 LTE because I want more freedom over the iPad.
How has the battery life been? Does anyone know if the LTE can get rooted same as the WiFi? I'm planning to buy Verizon version

I would not buy it, because of lack of fingerprint and most probably ****ty development

EugenStanis said:
I would not buy it, because of lack of fingerprint and most probably ****ty development
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?

machx1111 said:
That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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First time i saw my S3 i was suprised how good it look, but some times after i was disappointed. Fingerprint is working like in 2015 flagships, performance is not as good as i expect, performance is poor (on stock it is extremely slow, on linege or treble roms little bit better but still laggy when compared to e.g my OnePlus 5T).
Only good things in this tablet is screen, and nothing else. I'am thinking about switching to Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 or Google Pixel C

Stay away from it if you're going to use it in portrait mode, it suffers from crooked/slanted scrolling on text heavy pages, really annoying.

Its awesome tablet. Almost have working twrp already

Reuben_skelz92 said:
Its awesome tablet. Almost have working twrp already
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Any idea if it will work on LTE? - TWRP / Root

machx1111 said:
Any idea if it will work on LTE? - TWRP / Root
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I should work the same

EugenStanis said:
First time i saw my S3 i was suprised how good it look, but some times after i was disappointed. Fingerprint is working like in 2015 flagships, performance is not as good as i expect, performance is poor (on stock it is extremely slow, on linege or treble roms little bit better but still laggy when compared to e.g my OnePlus 5T).
Only good things in this tablet is screen, and nothing else. I'am thinking about switching to Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 or Google Pixel C
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Google pixel is even more ancient.
Where can you buy the xiaomi? Doesn't show up on Amazon

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Google pixel is even more ancient.
Where can you buy the xiaomi? Doesn't show up on Amazon
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest

machx1111 said:
Thanks guys. I am leaning towards getting the Tab S4 LTE because I want more freedom over the iPad.
How has the battery life been? Does anyone know if the LTE can get rooted same as the WiFi? I'm planning to buy Verizon version
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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Battery life is great, I can get 12 hours SOT (no games, just surfing the Web and reading).
Development could be good, we have a snapdragon 835 which is quite supported. Anyway Samsung features are a great value for me (S Pen is very well implemented) and IMHO they are more important than getting 1 or 2 more releases of android. I have a Note 8.0 tablet with android 4.4.4 and it still works perfectly, I never needed to upgrade to LineageOS Nougat even if it was available.
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EugenStanis said:
Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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I disagree with that the S4 is comparable and with further tweaking it will be even better. The pixel c was awesome and I loved it but too old now

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I disagree with that the S4 is comparable and with further tweaking it will be even better. The pixel c was awesome and I loved it but too old now
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Too Old but working better and faster. Even my Nvidia Shield Tablet was faster than Tab S3/S4

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Too Old but working better and faster. Even my Nvidia Shield Tablet was faster than Tab S3/S4
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You had the Tab S3 but it doesn't look like you have the Tab S4? Why are you so sure they are better than Tab S4?
I have both. Tab S3 is indeed crap but Tab S4 is a lot better.

Chyeo1979 said:
You had the Tab S3 but it doesn't look like you have the Tab S4? Why are you so sure they are better than Tab S4?
I have both. Tab S3 is indeed crap but Tab S4 is a lot better.
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I've tested S4 for 6 days, and not much changed for me. Lack of fingerprint scanner is disgusting, no more ram and only snapdragon 835. On terms of use, same problems like scrolling lag, etc.

EugenStanis said:
Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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Absolutely not. Pixel C features a Tegra chipset that is not quite very optimized for Android. Also, the Pixel C is a 3-year-old device, not recommended at all.

BarajaVLC said:
Absolutely not. Pixel C features a Tegra chipset that is not quite very optimized for Android. Also, the Pixel C is a 3-year-old device, not recommended at all.
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If you talk to me about optimization, look at S3/S4 performance. UI seems to be laggy, animations are not smooth. In normal use Pixel C seems to work faster, animations are snappy. I have tried Tab S3/S4 and Google Pixel C and i'am going to test Xiaomi mi pad 4. Now am disappointed

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[Q] Is it worth it to get note 2 now?

so I'm thinking about getting a note 2, I know there are better mobile out there but I just got a phone last month and don't want to spend too much. I want to know:
How is the gaming performance/graphics?
How is the screen clarity and colors?
I'm mainly getting this for watching movies and playing high def games, so please let me know if this device can hold up in 2014
Note 4 is coming out soon. Wait for the Note 3 to get a bit cheaper?
xLeonardo said:
Note 4 is coming out soon. Wait for the Note 3 to get a bit cheaper?
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Note 2 is a lot cheaper here, I don't think I can wait that long. Please let me know about the note 2
assassin8 said:
Note 2 is a lot cheaper here, I don't think I can wait that long. Please let me know about the note 2
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Yes it can hold up to the standards of 2014.
I've had the phone since it was first out, nothing I can fault it with.
xLeonardo said:
Yes it can hold up to the standards of 2014.
I've had the phone since it was first out, nothing I can fault it with.
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How's The screen and gaming performance?
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How's The screen and gaming performance?
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Screen is fine and vivid.
Gaming is fine, though with any device it will get hot after awhile. Specs are fine to handle everything you need. It is a note after all, the specs can handle whatever you throw at it.
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Screen is fine and vivid.
Gaming is fine, though with any device it will get hot after awhile. Specs are fine to handle everything you need. It is a note after all, the specs can handle whatever you throw at it.
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Nice heating is a common thing when gaming so no issue.
The device isnt really that old, It will handle anything you throw at it. Just because there are newer/higher spec devices doesn't mean this is old and past it lol.
Got mine yesterday, yes they are pretty cheap now, at least here on the UK and happy with it, great camera, fast enough, but with a different Launcher, Samsung launcher makes the phone slow, but with Google launcher the phone is a lot better, no slow downs at all and multi window still works with Google Launcher =D Now the stylus... it is fun, but don't really see me using it that much. The screen is great, but the bezels are pretty big, the phone could be a lot thinner...
It's only been 2 days since I've owned the phone and this has been my experience so far, IMO if you can get something a bit faster, like a LG G2, LG G Pro, Samsung S4, HTC One M7 you will be better off with one of those, I've owned them all (I'm a mobile addicted) and from the ones I mentioned my favourite is still the HTC One M7 (but be careful with the camera issue, with the pink tint, google it if you want to know more) and pretty close is the LG G2, if you can get one of these, you will be a lot happier.
Just my honest opinion.
Regards and all the best.
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Got mine yesterday, yes they are pretty cheap now, at least here on the UK and happy with it, great camera, fast enough, but with a different Launcher, Samsung launcher makes the phone slow, but with Google launcher the phone is a lot better, no slow downs at all and multi window still works with Google Launcher =D Now the stylus... it is fun, but don't really see me using it that much. The screen is great, but the bezels are pretty big, the phone could be a lot thinner...
It's only been 2 days since I've owned the phone and this has been my experience so far, IMO if you can get something a bit faster, like a LG G2, LG G Pro, Samsung S4, HTC One M7 you will be better off with one of those, I've owned them all (I'm a mobile addicted) and from the ones I mentioned my favourite is still the HTC One M7 (but be careful with the camera issue, with the pink tint, google it if you want to know more) and pretty close is the LG G2, if you can get one of these, you will be a lot happier.
Just my honest opinion.
Regards and all the best.
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thanks for the detailed answer. I'm gonna look into S4, cause i'm mainly looking for a phone with super amoled.

[Q] Are you happy with your note 10.1 (2014 Edition)

I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?
Happy? Yes, very.
I have the P605, so am rooted without knox fuse trip.
It took me a while to choose a tablet, UK Note 10.1" 2014's are only 16GB Wifi only versions AFAIK, and for the money I was spending I wanted better specs, so I had to order a Hong Kong p605 import which allowed me to have 3g/4g and have 32GB storage (64B would have been too much $$).
I was replacing a Note 1 (n7000) so needed something that I could use as a phone too, didn't want to mess with 2 devices, tethering, etc.
The only issue I have so far is a distinct lack of accessories. I wish there was a choice of docks, cases, etc.
So yeah, other than that, very happy, it is fast and smooth and does what I need it to.
Some UK carriers don't allow tablets to be used on their networks, my 3 sim detected and rejected my p605 saying it was not allowed, but that is not really the tablets fault.
randybellis said:
I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?
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First let me say that some people are not happy with anything, and nothing is ever perfect.
I have a stock SM-P600 32 GB and I'm very happy. I also have a Stock GT-8013 that was restored back to stock from root and my wife is happy with it also.
Had my SM-P605 LTE tablet since December and still loving it. Not rooted and with OTA updates I am at KitKat 4.4.2. I use Nova Launcher and it's smooth as butter. No issues whatsoever. Enjoy your new baby
The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?
Am I happy with the tablet? Thats a deffo yes it is truely an awesome tablet.
Am I happy with samsung updates? Thats a different subject lol. Either way overall theres no denying this tablet is amazing but maybe I'm just a tad wierd and slightly annoyed at the way Samsung handles their updates (Still no kitkat in UK 10 months on), I keep blabbering on that this is my last samsung product but who am I kidding - nothing compares in terms of note features. Will have to wait and see haha.
Anyhoo am sure you'll love it :thumbup:
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enotar said:
The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?
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I am doing the same thing. I wanted the galaxy tab s but did t want to spend that much money. This seems like a great tablet. Just hope the pixel quality looks better than my iPad mini.
The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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If you rotate your device 180 degrees the screen rotates as well. then you can plug it in at the top and watch your movies.
I love my note, wouldn't mind an update in the UK though to KK. maybe one day?
Hong Kong 32gb p605 here, running stock 4.4.2 rooted with towel root. Very happy except for the lack of accessory options.
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{Diemex} said:
The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?
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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?
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There is original dock station for our baby and also I have information from official samsung store that this one
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
also will work, still I did not test it yet.
To be in subject. I love my P605 and I hate Samsung that they did not focus more on promotion of it and there is few accessories in the market which you can get to it.
Second thing is the lack of support for many software designed for it. For example:
1. No possibility to unlock your PC(send ctrl+alt+del) when you are connect to it via Samsung Remote PC
2. Few note themes to SNotes - they could add much more
and much more.
Still it is defo worth to get it since it is still the best Tablet with Android in the market(TAB S don't have SPen and Xperia Z2 tablet is only marketing nymber1)
BR.
I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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sameer1807 said:
I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?
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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?
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Nova helps a bit, but the Kitkat update is probably also enough already.
Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.
Pazzu510 said:
Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.
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yeah...kinda wishing I would have gotten the Tab S instead. Maybe I will sell this on Craigslist or something and get the Tab S. Who knows
Simply put, F-yea
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I'm happy with this tablet, but not happy with stupid Samsung.
Very happy with this tablet, but can't stand TouchWiz and any of the S apps.
Replace TouchWiz with either Nova or Google launcher and S apps with anything else from Google Play (example: lecture notes).
About a year after Android L comes out and we are still on kit kat, I might feel a little different.
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Note 7 or One Plus 3???

Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
I don't see any lag on my note 7. It's very rare
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OneEternalRound said:
Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Lag could be a result from battery problems. My N7 works even better than S7edge. I will chose a replacement for note 7 with note 7 anytime
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You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.
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You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.
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Remind me, I forget, what other mobile has the S-pen? one gets what one pays for and those less expensive mobiles will serve their customers very well. What you totally fail to realise is the Note 7 is NOT a bog standard flagship mobile. Its aimed at high end users who will make use of the S-pen, 64GB internal memory and a possible 256GB expandable memory to name just a couple of the Note7's basic characteristics.
Ryland
LOL there's no comparison, one is a mid range bog standard phone and one is top quality premium computing device.
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I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire
winol said:
I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire
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I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
I was thinking about getting the OP3 as opposed to the Note 7. But I realized that the OP3 wasn't going to offer me anything new. In fact, it would have offered me less (other than savings in money) considering I was coming off my S7 Edge.
I knew that the OP3 was going to be a temporary workhorse. Rooted, **** ton of roms, then I'd get tired of it after like month 3 then I would end up getting the newest Google device, while regretting not buying the Note 7 yet. Note 7 just has everything that can last me a legitimate year. Expandable storage, fast charging, multi window which i actually utilize every day, s-pen which i actually use many times throughout the day.
Sure, the price is up there. But this note 7 is a long term phone.
I have owned both phones. While I had the op3 since release and the note 7 for less than a month, I have to say the note 7 is auch better phone. I don't really need root, and didn't flash custom ROM on the op3. I used both android pay on the op3 and samsung pay on the note 7 daily and samsung pay is much more convenient. The op3 display isn't bad but the note 7 is noticeable better. I find battery life to be a bit better on the note 7. Both phone got me through a full day with moderate to heavy use but the not tends to have more battery at the end of the day. Dash charge was very convenient on the op3 and it did seem to charge much faster than note 7 (I don't use wireless charging). OxygenOS was a tad better than TouchWiz in terms of less manufacturer bloat, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I don't know if I will keep the note 7 after the new Pixel devices are announced but if I do I can see myself keeping the note 7 for 2 years.
blitzkrieg19 said:
I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
Batfink33 said:
Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.
acheney1990 said:
I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.
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I have very little or zero lag or stutter on my Exynos. It's the smoothest Touchwiz phone I've ever used.
I have the exynos model, I have no complaints, very smooth, no lags, I had note 4, and it had many shortcomings, I am real happy with my exynos note7
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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..
I also have the Snapdragon. Would It be possible to get it switched when I return it? I thought Exynos was only certain areas?? Never heard of it being in USA..
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Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..
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I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.
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I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.
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Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?
OneEternalRound said:
Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?
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Online elsewhere.
THATTON said:
Online elsewhere.
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Looks like this might be my best bet! Thanks for the help.

Best new phone after S4Mini ?

Hi Guys,
I'm a favorite user of our S4mini. But having it for almost 4 years now i'm starting to see it gets a bit old. I have used several custom ROMs, but in the end all are ending up a bit slow..
So i'm looking for a follow up device. Any tips? Right now I'm thinking on buying the Galaxy S7..
New phone should be;
- Fast, 'flagship' specs
- A great custom ROM community
- Good camera
- If possible, not to BIG (s4mini size is perfect, but hard to find i guess)
thats all
Wait for new Sony x compact. The current one is really good but I'm sure new one will be better.
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Mascarponi said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a favorite user of our S4mini. But having it for almost 4 years now i'm starting to see it gets a bit old. I have used several custom ROMs, but in the end all are ending up a bit slow..
So i'm looking for a follow up device. Any tips? Right now I'm thinking on buying the Galaxy S7..
New phone should be;
- Fast, 'flagship' specs
- A great custom ROM community
- Good camera
- If possible, not to BIG (s4mini size is perfect, but hard to find i guess)
thats all
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Oneplus 3 or 3t
Here is my story...
Was looking for something compact and lightweight like s4 mini and also reasonably powerful (don't need flagship power. AMOLED and non stock Rom is also must. Bought a LENOVO P2. ...used for 2 months and sold it. Pros: Good battery life and ultra fast charging. What i didn't like was size and weight...too big for my hands. Also didn't like the Rom as it was close to stock.
Then i bought zuk z2. Liked nothing. Specially the LCD display. I will never buy anything if its not AMOLED and that too SAMSUNG calibrated. Device was thick and boxy....ergonomics were poor.
Moral of the story: only flagship cpu and very big bbattery don't make a good device. Its balance and optimisation of everything. And my opinion is SAMSUNG has mastered the art of making fantastic android smartphones. I hate stock,Los/based, miui etc. After trying everything....touchwiz(tweaked) and Flyme os are the top.
So far i have short listed GALAXY A5 2017. Though it is still large to my standards. ....after the recent price cut it seems the most viable option to me. Thanks for reading.
I started with trying to replace 2013 moto x. Tried the following :
Galaxy alpha
Galaxy a3 2016
Galaxy a3 2017
Sony z5 compact
Sony x compact
Oneplus x
Now running galaxy s5 and s4 mini both on RR and working pretty good. I prefer size of s4 mini but it is Lil under powered.
Wish I would have kept oneplus x. Now waiting for new Sony compact.
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I have decided on the HTC 10, now that the price had dropped to ~ 1/2 of the launch price. It is one of the better "ex-flagship" type phone that is not too big, still is plenty powerful even tho it has last year's Top SOC.
Unlockable bootloader & great ROM support, and solid build. Design is a bit dated, but I think it will be a solid phone for me. (Ordered on-line, awaiting delivery ....)
The S7 is my second choice - better screen, better camera. But I am leery of the glass back, and the use of micro USB rather than USB-C swayed me towards the HTC. Plus Samsung's update record is spotty, and you can only get ROM support if you get the G930F variant. And Sammy seemed to have added multiple hurdles to the bootloader unlocking process compared to the S4 mini.
I was pretty much in the same predicament as you. After first giving the new Nokia 6 a chance, I decided that the screen (5.5 inches) is too big for my liking, especially coming from a S4 mini with a 4.3 screen, so I returned it.
I then decided to get the S7 (flat; not the edge variant) a chance, and so far I'm happy with it. If you get one with an Exynos processor, there are enough different roms to choose from (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development).
Plus, it's also Samsung so it's not something completely new. Yes, the screen is larger as well (5.1 inches), but with a nice back case to get a better grip on the phone it's still decent and not too big if you ask me.
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I was pretty much in the same predicament as you. After first giving the new Nokia 6 a chance, I decided that the screen (5.5 inches) is too big for my liking, especially coming from a S4 mini with a 4.3 screen, so I returned it.
I then decided to get the S7 (flat; not the edge variant) a chance, and so far I'm happy with it. If you get one with an Exynos processor, there are enough different roms to choose from (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development).
Plus, it's also Samsung so it's not something completely new. Yes, the screen is larger as well (5.1 inches), but with a nice back case to get a better grip on the phone it's still decent and not too big if you ask me.
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What rom you recommend?
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What rom you recommend?
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Let me first say, I don't consider myself an expert like that. I've only tested a few so far.
For example, Official LOS, which worked quite well. The only problem was that my S7 (SM-G930F) unfortunately has different camera sensors than most others. It looks like sometime in the last 1-3 months, Samsung has started to also use Sony camera sensors instead of the regular Samsung ones, which are not yet supported by LOS, so my camera isn't working when using LOS. It just stays blank.
The developers are aware of that and there might even be a fix for this issue, but I haven't researched it that thoroughly.
I wanted a rom with root, Xposed (Xprivacy, Gravitybox, and a whatsapp module) and all the main features, so I'm now using Helios 7.20 with Magisk and Xposed enabled. So far, everything I need is working, so no complaints on my part. I haven't updated to 7.21 yet, so I can't tell you how that version works.
Battery life is okay. No huge drain, but then again I have gps and all them location services disabled, but my data connection is turned on 24/7.

Still Worth/Safe to Buy?

So I've been looking at getting a Note tablet. I see a lot of people say the 10.1 2014 Edition is better than The Tab A 10.1. My worry though is buying a ~3-4 year old tablet. How likely am I to get a battery that still has life in it? How common is the battery seating issue? I also see aftermarket batteries are a crap shoot. Are these all correct assumptions, or could I get a good Note 2014 off Swappa and not have to worry about charging issues? Thanks
All valid concerns.
I had the same questions, then tried out a friends Tab A. It was much better than expected. The only spec significantly lower than 2014 is the screen resolution. Personally I think that's okay, as the 2014 resolution IMO was too much for the processor and slowed down the tablet. Also I don't like the dimensions and portrait default in Tab A, but that's subjective. No IR sensor.
Other than that, it has a mid range processor, but two generations newer, so evens out. It has nougat (much smoother than Lollipop and supports newer apps), and everything else pretty much the same. For normal use (browsing, video, spen notes, Office etc), I don't think you will see any difference.
Maybe try it out at a store and decide?
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All my issues with this piece of hardware begin on probably physical issues on my flash memory or it doesn't work well on root, probably my unit was damaged in someway. Either way i do not recommend this tablet, it have nice specs i mean even today i'm struggling to find a worthy replacement with pen features (i think i might go with the lenovo yoga book even if i'm risking another gadget that doesn't have a huge dev support). But if you like to root, remove bloat and do a little tweaking i would rather look for a device that have a huge dev community on XDA. All we have now on this tablet here is a 5.0 official and 6.0-7.0 AOSP-cyanogen variants, i mean they are OK but they lack all the S-Pen features and the solutions aren't on par with OEM support.
BBowermaster said:
So I've been looking at getting a Note tablet. I see a lot of people say the 10.1 2014 Edition is better than The Tab A 10.1. My worry though is buying a ~3-4 year old tablet. How likely am I to get a battery that still has life in it? How common is the battery seating issue? I also see aftermarket batteries are a crap shoot. Are these all correct assumptions, or could I get a good Note 2014 off Swappa and not have to worry about charging issues? Thanks
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I have a mint condition 10.1 2014 tablet for sale. Just ha ENT put it on swappa yet. It's the wifi model, screen protector been on since day one, has a fintie case on it and has been rooted running mostly stick rom. Message if interested.
I bought the same tablet but with lte option. Good tablets.
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For me its the perfect one less the official support.
-3GB ram
-Good screen (300ppi)
-Good battery capacity
-SPen
-Good quality
-Good camera
-etc
My sister have the Tab A and.... I hate the screen (poor resolution) and its slower than mine
BBowermaster said:
So I've been looking at getting a Note tablet. I see a lot of people say the 10.1 2014 Edition is better than The Tab A 10.1. My worry though is buying a ~3-4 year old tablet. How likely am I to get a battery that still has life in it? How common is the battery seating issue? I also see aftermarket batteries are a crap shoot. Are these all correct assumptions, or could I get a good Note 2014 off Swappa and not have to worry about charging issues? Thanks
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To you and anyone similar:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/help/wifi-gone-t2918444
Looks like this tab is GOING to develop a WiFi problem in it's lifetime.
My tab just lost WiFi capability.
blazzer12 said:
To you and anyone similar:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/help/wifi-gone-t2918444
Looks like this tab is GOING to develop a WiFi problem in it's lifetime.
My tab just lost WiFi capability.
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Thanks, I just went with the Tab A 10.1 as I found a locked one on Ebay for $150 and just bypassed the lock.
I was too worried with the battery life and problems with aftermarket batteries. Looks like it was a smart choice.
E398 said:
All my issues with this piece of hardware begin on probably physical issues on my flash memory or it doesn't work well on root, probably my unit was damaged in someway. Either way i do not recommend this tablet, it have nice specs i mean even today i'm struggling to find a worthy replacement with pen features (i think i might go with the lenovo yoga book even if i'm risking another gadget that doesn't have a huge dev support). But if you like to root, remove bloat and do a little tweaking i would rather look for a device that have a huge dev community on XDA. All we have now on this tablet here is a 5.0 official and 6.0-7.0 AOSP-cyanogen variants, i mean they are OK but they lack all the S-Pen features and the solutions aren't on par with OEM support.
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I'm in the same boat. Win10 tab is a much better dollar / performance deal than the android tablets.. but android has better tablet style apps..
Also remember folks that there are two Tab A's - one with pen and 3gb ram and the cheaper one with 2gb ram and no pen.

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