I've noticed that my 2 XL battery drains very fast after full charge, but then settles to acceptable drain rates from about 90%. I'd say it takes less than an hour to drop from 100 to 90% without basically any use. Often I can't even hit 100% when charging. More like 99/98% max. If it does charge to 100%, it stays there for a couple minutes tops, even if just on standby. Which leads me to my next issue...
This prompted me to calibrate my battery which seemed to help somewhat, but I found that I cannot monitor the charge rate when charging while the device is turned off. What is shown is just what "looks like" a full battery charged icon at all times, and the screen does not dim at any point during charge. It actually seems that the phone is frozen during charging when turned off, and needs a very long power button press to turn the phone on. I actually have two Pixel 2 XLs in front of me and they both do this! Is this a known issue?
In general I am getting 5-6 hours screen-on time per charge which seems about right from what I've read. But that initial fast drain and "freezing" while charging when turned off is puzzling. Any common experiences or insight?
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I've noticed that my 2 XL battery drains very fast after full charge, but then settles to acceptable drain rates from about 90%. I'd say it takes less than an hour to drop from 100 to 90% without basically any use. Often I can't even hit 100% when charging. More like 99/98% max. If it does charge to 100%, it stays there for a couple minutes tops, even if just on standby. Which leads me to my next issue...
This prompted me to calibrate my battery which seemed to help somewhat, but I found that I cannot monitor the charge rate when charging while the device is turned off. What is shown is just what "looks like" a full battery charged icon at all times, and the screen does not dim at any point during charge. It actually seems that the phone is frozen during charging when turned off, and needs a very long power button press to turn the phone on. I actually have two Pixel 2 XLs in front of me and they both do this! Is this a known issue?
In general I am getting 5-6 hours screen-on time per charge which seems about right from what I've read. But that initial fast drain and "freezing" while charging when turned off is puzzling. Any common experiences or insight?
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It may be that the battery is not fully charged when the phone is telling you it is 100%. When using Accubattery to manually benchmark the battery, I found that my phones were still taking a low charge current (as measured by AB) for 45 minutes to sometimes even one hour after the phone was reading 100%. AB will register 100% when the phone's charging circuit cuts off to zero (and notify you). Using AB for a while will also give you a very close approximation of the remaining capacity of your battery relative to a new battery. When my 2XL was new, I was getting just over 100% (~103%). A year later, it is in the high 90's.
Thanks for the tip on Accubattery. I am going to give that a try for a while. So have you been charging up to 100% regularly in spite of what's recommended by this app?
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Thanks for the tip on Accubattery. I am going to give that a try for a while. So have you been charging up to 100% regularly in spite of what's recommended by this app?
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Yes, I turn the 80% alarm crap off and leave it on the charger all night. It is fully charged before I go to bed but I leave it on the charger all night. I use AB for bench marking my battery's capacity and it's real good at that... if you start from when AB says your battery is full. You will see it converge to a % capacity after only 2-3 full discharges. I'm just guessing but I think you are not completely filling the battery to it's full capacity. At least using AB for a while will a) provide you with your battery's true capacity wrt a new battery, and b) will rule out you not charging up fully as your mystery 100-90% quick-drop. Please do report back. :good:
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Hey people,
I've noticed this strange effect (which I notice using the Battery Graph app to observe how my usage drains the battery). When charging the phone, the phone will increase in charge constantly and gradually as expected. However when the phone is charged, I have seen it drop approximately 10% of charge. I've seen this in 2 situations:
1. When I disconnect it from the charger.
2. On on instance before I disconnected it from the charger when I had left it for an overnight charge. However, according to the graph, it had dropped 10% charge from full while connected to the charger then simply gone back to 100%. When I took it off the charger it stayed at 100%.
I should not that neither situation happens all the time. But situation 1 is a bit more frequent.
This is also not a Froyo issue as I only upgraded to Froyo yesterday and it happened to me this morning, but has happened before Froyo. The Battery Graph app takes a reading every 5mins and it is within this 5min period that the charge has dropped 10% which would probably rule out most apps. And again, this can happen the instant I take it off the charger.
Any ideas???
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Hey people,
I've noticed this strange effect (which I notice using the Battery Graph app to observe how my usage drains the battery). When charging the phone, the phone will increase in charge constantly and gradually as expected. However when the phone is charged, I have seen it drop approximately 10% of charge. I've seen this in 2 situations:
1. When I disconnect it from the charger.
2. On on instance before I disconnected it from the charger when I had left it for an overnight charge. However, according to the graph, it had dropped 10% charge from full while connected to the charger then simply gone back to 100%. When I took it off the charger it stayed at 100%.
I should not that neither situation happens all the time. But situation 1 is a bit more frequent.
This is also not a Froyo issue as I only upgraded to Froyo yesterday and it happened to me this morning, but has happened before Froyo. The Battery Graph app takes a reading every 5mins and it is within this 5min period that the charge has dropped 10% which would probably rule out most apps. And again, this can happen the instant I take it off the charger.
Any ideas???
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your asking to get slapped asking this question its been discussed in so many threads lol heres the score, when charging with the phone on, when ur charge reaches 100% it then discharges to 90, it will follow this cycle untill you unplug it, this is called exercising the battery, and i assume it a preventative method to stop you damaging your battery by overcharging it
I will consider myself duly slapped for not checking it up. I normally tell other people they should have checked!
I've seen a few post regarding the 4.3V at 100% thing, but they're too old and haven't really given me much information.
My main issue is that I'm experiencing unusually rapid battery drops after my phone reaches 12% charge, it'd drop to 0% in just a few seconds. I downloaded a few battery calibration apps thinking that it might be a calibration issue. In that process, I noticed that the voltage read by these apps (and even in the *#*#4636#*#* menu) when fully charge is 4,38 volts. It was my understanding that Li-Po batteries should be fully charged at 4.2 volts and that charging past that point is harmful for the battery.
I also noticed that if at this point (charged at 4.38 volts - 100%) I unplugg the charger, the battery indicator would show 100% for a while, until the voltage drops below 4.2V, at that point the porcentage would change to 99%, so it seems that the device is set recognize 4,2V as fully charge, but it continues charging after that point. Also, the green light turns on at 90%, is this normal?
I tried calibrating using this app but with no results. I'm trying the manual calibration now. What is going on here? Could this be a clibration issue or do I have a faulty battery?
I think it is not normal. My P6 drops even a little bit slower from 10%. current my P6 is on 6% and 3,627V. (Edit: Turn off: 3,55V / After charge 100%: 4,32V)
Next time i will charge, then i post the Voltage at 100% for you.
To calibrate the accu you don't need any app. Use P6 until it is automatic power off. Now turn it on so often until it will not start anymore, and only show a red accu on screen. Now charge to 100%, turn on, unplug charger. Now your accu is calibrated.
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I think it is not normal. My P6 drops even a little bit slower from 10%. current my P6 is on 6% and 3,627V. (Edit: Turn off: 3,55V / After charge 100%: 4,32V)
Next time i will charge, then i post the Voltage at 100% for you.
To calibrate the accu you don't need any app. Use P6 until it is automatic power off. Now turn it on so often until it will not start anymore, and only show a red accu on screen. Now charge to 100%, turn on, unplug charger. Now your accu is calibrated.
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Thanks, heross. So apparently the >4.2V @ 100% is not so unusual. Does your phone remain at 100% for a relatively long time and drops to 99 after the voltage is below 4.2V? Mine does that, and it also turns the led green when it reaches 90%.
I'm sure the dropping from 12% o 0% in seconds cannot be normal, but I'm wondering if the above is a symptom that something is wrong or
if it's normal.
EDIT: Ok, the phone just turned off by itself, the quick drop hapenned as usual (12% to 0% in less than a minute) and the voltage fluctuated between 3,1 and 3,3 volts in the process, maybe even less than 3.1 V, but I'm not sure. I took a series of screen shots 2 seconds apart, I'll post them when I turn the phone on again, I'll let it charge as you suggested.
Yes LED green at 90% is normal. My P6 drops to 99% after 1-2minutes screen on or after a boot without charger.
12% to 0% in seconds is definitely not normal. Normal it goes down very slowly to 3% then it comes a Info and after 30sec it power off.
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Yes LED green at 90% is normal. My P6 drops to 99% after 1-2minutes screen on or after a boot without charger.
12% to 0% in seconds is definitely not normal. Normal it goes down very slowly to 3% then it comes a Info and after 30sec it power off.
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Finished charging.
I've turned the phone on and it has been sitting at 100% for about 25 minutes at 4,348V with the screen on. (I even played a video with full brightess). After that it droped to 99% and 4,079V[/B]. That can't be normal.
I saw that the P6 battery is rated 4,35 volts, so i'm not too worried anymore abut that voltage and everyone else seems to have the same values, but this quick drop with 12% and the fact that it stays for so long at 100% does worries me.
The screenshots were taken 2 or 3 seconds apart. It doesn't give me a low battery warning at 15% like most phones, but at 8%
I'm still having this extremely annoying problem. The goddamn battery goes from 12-13% to 0% in a blink of an eye. I just plugged the charger at 8% and it show 0% right after and started charging from there. Voltages are strange too, it shows ~3,6 volts when it started dropping quickly. It has charged ~20% in less than ten minutes. Look at this behavior: sudden voltage drops, never went below 3,3V and dies at 3,6V (almost nominal voltage)
I've tried calibrating several with several methods a few times, I'd prefer to stop doing that since I know it stresses the battery.
Has anyone had this issue? Can someone please shed some light on WTH is wrong with this troublesome phone?
Saw this post now. I have the same problem but it is from 9% to 0% . I don't think it is the battery, i think it is how android reads your battery info. I managed to calibrate mine by charging it when off from 0% to 100%-didn't last for long, the problem appeared once again.
It stays to much at 100% after charging, so we have the same battery life. Might be the kernel, don't know. I home when emui 3.0 is relased comes with a new kernel as well.
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Saw this post now. I have the same problem but it is from 9% to 0% . I don't think it is the battery, i think it is how android reads your battery info. I managed to calibrate mine by charging it when off from 0% to 100%-didn't last for long, the problem appeared once again.
It stays to much at 100% after charging, so we have the same battery life. Might be the kernel, don't know. I home when emui 3.0 is relased comes with a new kernel as well.
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I also managed to fix it once, I don't remember exactly what I did (I've tried so many things) but it didn't last long either, it discharged normally one time, but the next time dropped from 12% to 0% again in seconds. When will EMUI 3.0 be released?
They said emui 3.0 will be released in the middle of november for p6 but they also said that it will be available for p7 since october -they kept their word and it is available but only for the chinese versions of p7. So i would expect emui 3.0 for p6 in december for the international version.
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They said emui 3.0 will be released in the middle of november for p6 but they also said that it will be available for p7 since october -they kept their word and it is available but only for the chinese versions of p7. So i would expect emui 3.0 for p6 in december for the international version.
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Ok, I think I managed to calibrate it, I'm not sure yet, I will update once the battery is drained so I can see how it behaves at low charge, but there are indications that it's working.
If you're experiencing the same problem as me, then you've probably noticed that after your phone drops quickly from 9% (in your case) to 0% and you plug the charger, the battery will charge up to 9% also very quickly. If this happens, then Android is not reading the battery info right and you'll get a 100% reading before it's actually fully charged, and will keep on charging past that point (which I believe is why it stays at 100% for such a long time). It'll obviously drain from 9% to 0% again once it's discharged - because it's not really at 9%, it's much lower.
So, if we can manage to get Android to display normal charging speeds at low charge, then the battery should be calibrated. This is what I've managed to do.
Here's how:
1. Get a Battery Monitoring App (I use Battery Monitor Widget) and set the update intervals to 1 minute
2. Let your battery drain and your phone turn irself off until you can't turn it on
3. Plug the charger and turn the phone on. Watch how the charge increases in this process, it'll most likely charge too quickly (See graph screenshot - blue arrow: a steep slope indicates quick, abnormal charging speed readings)
4. Wait 5 minutes or until it reaches 10-12%
5. Unplug the charger and let the battery drain again. Watch how it discharges, if it charged too quickly in step 3, it'll most likely discharge quickly too here (You can see in the graph screenshot that the discharging slope in this process is also very steep)
6. When it says it's going to turn itself off in 30 seconds, plug in the charger (don't let it turn off).
7. If the 'turning off' message appeared, say, at 2%, your phone will probably display 0% after you plug the charger (i know this makes no sense, but it happens like that)
8. Let it charge and watch how it's charging.
After doing this my battery charged at a normal rate (Graph screenshot - red arrow) and it behaved normally approaching full charge (current started decreasing approaching 100% - green arrow). It didn't stay for ages in 100% after unplugging the charger either, just 1 hour in deep sleep (2nd and 3rd screenshots), which I think is fine because I used to unplugg the charger at night and wake up to a 100% battery, so it seems Android is reading battery info correctly now.
I hope this works for you too, mate (And that it will last more than one charge cycle).
I'll update tonight with low charge behaviour, but I'm pretty sure it'll discharge normally.
EDIT: It didn't actually eliminate the problem, but it got a little better, it now drops from 7% to 4% (instead of 12-13%) and stays at 4 for a while.
My doze doesn't seem to be activating at night. Moto display turned off. I'm losing about 10% while sleeping which seems like a lot considering my s8 plus lost about half that with always on display on...
I'm also losing about 7% per hour and getting about 3hrs screen time per charge. I noticed a decrease in efficiency possibly after buying and using the Incipio wireless charging battery moto mod.
You can't judge battery drain from 100-90% once it goes below 88% that is when you get true readings. If you unplug your phone at the high 90's the charging algorithm could have had it at 92% and over those hours it just equalized itself.
I.E. I had my phone at 99% charge on the charger for an hour or two while using. The phone will still show 99% but the battery isn't getting a trickle to stay at 99% it will not get power and drop to roughly 91-93% depending on kernel then charge back up to help battery longevity but the system will still show 99% to not make the average user freak out over their battery level dropping while charged. There was a in depth post about this years ago on this site. Too lazy to search and post, but it is a simple search.
Edit: here you go, found it. It's a great read.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
It is a good read but not really what I am talking about. I never leave my phone on my charger at night. I charge to 100% before I go to sleep and sometimes I use for hour or two before bed. So the drain I am experiencing can't really be related to a false reading due to changing currents after a long time on the charger. Sometimes it's down to 70-80% by time I go to sleep and I am still losing that amount in drain. Dozing doesn't appear in my charts at all at night so it appears the phone is never truly dozing... But hey, I'm not a genius about all this, I just know it's not dozing and my cycles in gsam suck for an 835 processor phone even taking into account the smaller battery.
My buddy just made a good point... If I am sleeping with the battery mod connected, even if it's not "charging" maybe the connection makes the phone"think" it's charging and not doze? I'll have to test that tonight.
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My buddy just made a good point... If I am sleeping with the battery mod connected, even if it's not "charging" maybe the connection makes the phone"think" it's charging and not doze? I'll have to test that tonight.
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That makes sense and I was just going off the image showing 100-92 drain. I wouldn't have a mod on if you're not using it, it can cause drain.
So I've noticed some weird battery behavior on my Pixel 2 XL and was wondering if anyone else has noticed this.
I normally like to ;et the battery drain down into 5% or so before plugging it in and letting it charge through to 100%. I started noticing that a full charge would take me nearly 2 hours fully charge. A couple of times last week, I had to step out and the phone was charged approximately 95%. I unplugged the charger and walked to my car (about 5-6 minutes to get to the car) and when I looked at my phone, charge had dropped to 88%. Over the next few days I noticed this kind of excessive drain immediately after unplugging the charger. Aside from this, I still achieve 24+ hrs of battery life on a single charge so I am not sure that it is a HUGE issue, but one I felt shouldn't be happening nonetheless. Last night the same happened - unplugged around 95% and i literally saw the battery indicator go to 93%, 91%, 88% and then stop at 87% in about a minute. I immediately called Google support, shared my screen, and after speaking with the person on the phone - i was told I should definitely RMA, which i did..so I have a replacement coming.
I don't use always on display or always listening and I am extremely good at clearing open apps before I put the screen to sleep. I have noticed this at home, on my wifi as i always need a charge later in the day when I'm home from work. Also, I use the OEM charging wire and brick.
Anyone else notice this ?
I have not noticed battery drain fast after unplugging at full charge level. I would say you probably should RMA the device. Also it is not good to let lithium-ion batteries go down to low levels a lot like that, it will degrade the battery faster. The less you let the battery go down to low levels, the more charge cycles you will have, which means long battery life over time.
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I have not noticed battery drain fast after unplugging at full charge level. I would say you probably should RMA the device. Also it is not good to let lithium-ion batteries go down to low levels a lot like that, it will degrade the battery faster. The less you let the battery go down to low levels, the more charge cycles you will have, which means long battery life over time.
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I definitely did RMA, it was a painless process.
And I always thought that maximizing the charge of the phone (letting it get low, then charging up) would actually keep the battery healthier as it would reduce the # of times I charged it. Am i way off base with my logic for that?!
Going into my third week with my 2 XL and I haven't seen anything abnormal regarding battery drain.
I do practice the method of unplugging at 85% and plugging back in around 15% (per Accubattery's reco, and other reading done online)....
There's no proof that it helps as suggested, and while I realize that only allows me access to 70% of the battery's charge potential, I'm rarely, if ever, away from a plug for more than half a day.
This theory worked well in my 6P until it got the intermittent BLOD... My battery health was around 84% (via Accubattery) after 17 months of pretty heavy use.
Again, not sure it is solid fact or not, but you could always try it for a month and see if there is any noticeable difference in battery drain.
Thank you for that insight! I will absolutely do some research. You're battery health after 17 months is really impressive. I just switched from a Nexus 6p that was definitely showing signs of wear after 2 years of fairly standard use. I hadn't used accubattery, but I will download it on my new replacement and monitor results.
I will say though, that aside from that slight blip i noticed - the battery (andOS optimization i'm assuming) is amazing. I get through a day plus easily. So, anything I can do to keep that consistent or squeeze more time out of it is a no brainer.
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Going into my third week with my 2 XL and I haven't seen anything abnormal regarding battery drain.
I do practice the method of unplugging at 85% and plugging back in around 15% (per Accubattery's reco, and other reading done online)....
There's no proof that it helps as suggested, and while I realize that only allows me access to 70% of the battery's charge potential, I'm rarely, if ever, away from a plug for more than half a day.
This theory worked well in my 6P until it got the intermittent BLOD... My battery health was around 84% (via Accubattery) after 17 months of pretty heavy use.
Again, not sure it is solid fact or not, but you could always try it for a month and see if there is any noticeable difference in battery drain.
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I definitely did RMA, it was a painless process.
And I always thought that maximizing the charge of the phone (letting it get low, then charging up) would actually keep the battery healthier as it would reduce the # of times I charged it. Am i way off base with my logic for that?!
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Lithium-ion batteries work on charge cycles and are happier between 50-85% charge levels. You cannot really "overcharge" the battery because the phone will stop charging at 100% and just trickle charge to keep the battery at this level. But unplugging it after full charge defiantly wont hurt. If you keep the battery at higher levels I would't be surprised that you would get 1500+ charge cycl.es out of the phone before any real degradation which should easily get you years of good battery life. I find the battery life on the XL to be awesome and it lasts me throughout the day with still 40% battery life left and that is with pretty heavy usage.
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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That's pretty weird
My 3a xl (about the same age as yours) doesn't use more than 10% max when left overnight. Are you using AOD or anything?
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@Skittles9823 nothing beside stock Android and apps that I've used forever. Strange is that it's occasional - also occassional is initial drain from 100% to 92%.
Maybe its time to flash it - nothing suspicious is shown in batt stats
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I think popular wisdom is that both fast charging and in particular charging to 100% are not kind to the battery's longivety. Divided opinion about the effect of discharging to low percentages. Personally I charge to between 70 and 80% unless I know I'm going to need more capacity. 3a XL has a bigish battery, which helps. I recharge most nights but only to 70-80%. End of day I usually end up between high 40's and low 30's charge.
I manually set all apps I don't actually need to run in background to 'restricted' background use.
I charge mine up to a 100% often, when using it heavy.. I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it, unless you believe everything that is told or should I say sold to you.. Sounds like a faulty battery. If still under the 1 yr usual warranty I would have it replaced. I have drained mine down to less than 20% and still never experience any issue that OP state.
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I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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It's actually true. Lithium Ion batters degrade over time, the speed of which, depends on the amount of battery cycles they go through (0-100% and vice versa). Others have done the research and the math and found that generally a 20% to 80% and vice versa charge seems to be the best for longevity.
Personally I charge to 100 but try to charge my phone when it gets to 20-30%.
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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So very true my phone my money. In all my years of using cell phones, I think I have actually replaced a battery once because it went bad.
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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The included charger is a fast charger, good for headlining how fast it charges, not so great for the battery. I just use a 'standard' (Anker) USB charger.
Jury's out on if deeper discharge is bad, but it's the number of complete cycles (0-100% counting as 1). So 40 - 80% is 0.4 of a full cycle, and you're not stressing the battery so much by taking it to 100%. Many folk here replace their phones frequently enough not to be bothered by all this - if they sell it when 20% of the battery capacity's gone, that's fine.
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
TodNex said:
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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The good news is that this phone seems to be pretty easy to repair and a battery replacement could very well be a good option for you, especially since you wouldn't be compromising any water resistance or anything