Judder playing videos - Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 Questions & Answers

I am the only one experimenting it?
Is quite aparent for high quality videos, 4k hdr etc.
Any suggestion for improvement?

I don't have an answer for you but I have experienced this when watching some videos on YouTube. I've tested the same videos on my laptop as well as my wife's iPad and they are good there.

GaresTaylan said:
I don't have an answer for you but I have experienced this when watching some videos on YouTube. I've tested the same videos on my laptop as well as my wife's iPad and they are good there.
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Hey can you post a link to the video or videos that judder that you played back on your device, so i can test? i have 4k 20 gig file and it plays flawlessly and i haven’t experienced any judder on Samsung Video player or YouTube 4k playback! I am rooted and am using YouTube Vanced!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hey can you post a link to the video or videos that judder that you played back on your device, so i can test? i have 4k 20 gig file and it plays flawlessly and i haven’t experienced any judder on Samsung Video player or YouTube 4k playback! I am rooted and am using YouTube Vanced!
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mmm. is mostly on downloaded stuff. don't get me wrong, it is not bad or distracting, just... could be better.
will try to check at home and paste some links.

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MKV Video player

Is there an Android APP that can play the embedded subtitles of an MKV file? my phone can play the video flawlessly but it doesn't show the subtitles..
I hope there's a way without any need of converting..
Thanks..
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Guys, I posted a workaround in another thread... > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6902833&postcount=9
hey buddy, does it play MKV downloaded straight from the net?
Like a 720p vid without needing to encode?
Ferdimage said:
hey buddy, does it play MKV downloaded straight from the net?
Like a 720p vid without needing to encode?
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yes it does.. but no SUBS..
I've tried Naruto Shippuuden and Bleach both 720p by [Horrible Subs], Audio and Video works, but no Subs...
yeah I wanna know if there was an android video player out there, which can display embedded sub while watching hd content.
Check out this h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6902833&postcount=9 Right now it's the easiest solution.
Isn't that the OP's 'solution' ? haha
yes
he figured it out after
LOL
It still looks like there isn't a standalone player out there.
Using a few players it would either do one of the following:
1. Play the video in really good sharp resolution without dropping any frames, but here's no sound, and no subtitles. Ack!
2. Play the video in really awful quality with artifacts the size of Mount Tiwaluho but you got sound and subtitles, yet it's stuttering.
Can't win eh? Still, it seems that it is possible. The hardware is there. I think it's only a matter of time. Until then, we're better of using this workaround:
hXXp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6902833&postcount=9
Try this
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/media_and_video/mkv-subextractor_ltlg_download.html
works fine for me
works with embedded srt and ass subs
I use mVideoPlayer, plays 720p mkvs with softsubs perfectly for me
Ah, i see The.Opethian and Volcacius beat me to it. And now I find out they just linked to one of the OPs other posts...

[Q] Hi10p playback on Note 3 with MXplayer/other video player apps?

Those who have a Note 3: can anyone report back on how MKV files with 10-bit profile/hi10p play back using MXplayer (Using HW+ or whatever codec works best) or whatever video app you prefer to use?
Sample files in both 720p and 1080p resolution are here: koi-sama.net/files/hi10/
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
wiimonkey9 said:
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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Samsung should give you some commission because you just sold me on the phone! <3
Thanks and thanks!
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
TYVM
Here's the codec since I'm unable to edit my previous post
RMXO said:
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
TYVM
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It worked both without and with the codec. Subtitles worked better than the stock player, as it showed multiple lines at once during openings with karaoke lyrics, though both lines were on top of each other, instead of one being on the bottom and one being on the top like mxplayer had it. There are possibly settings to play with subtitles and such, but either way it seems that the phone is playing videos like a boss.
For testing I was using these videos: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=236223
I'm about to test http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=446022
and one of the most subtitle intensive videos I know, the first episode of this http://colormesubbed.com/the-world-god-only-knows-ii-bd-vol-1
I'll update this post when I am done testing.
Update:
Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
wiimonkey9 said:
Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
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Thanks for the report, hi10 compatibility is a major point for me too!
So, all videos play fine, even 1080p hi10 subbed, except some pretty heavy ones, like Garden of Words..
Maybe this was due to the bigger size (a movie and not episodes) and the sourround sound?
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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wiimonkey9 said:
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
GameBoiye said:
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
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Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
dragonstalker said:
Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
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This isn't specifically only related to Anime or MKV files, it's more specifically related to the h.264 standard. You can read a brief description of it here: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Hi10P and a more indepth description here: http://x264.nl/x264/10bit_01-ateme_pierre_larbier_422_10-bit.pdf
While it can be used for any videos, it's primarily used for Anime as it can provide better video at the same bittrate. It fixes a lot of problems that come with animation being encoded such as banding. It can be used for regular content but the benefit for non-animation medium is not enough to justify the increase in processing power and lack of hardware support to get people to switch.

How do you get smooth video playback in YouTube/Plex/ESPN etc...?

I'm very sensitive to dropped frames etc in video, and it's immediately noticeable on my just-picked-up Tab Pro 8.4. Compared to my iPad Air, video playback is pretty atrocious by comparison. I recognize that a lot of people won't notice, but the difference to me is beyond obvious.
Does anyone have any solution to this? I had the same problem with my Nexus 7 (2013), and HTC One (M7).
Apps tested: YouTube, Plex, MX Player, ESPN app (World Cup, yay!)
I'm going to return the tablet if no solution is found, of course, but was hoping I was just missing something...
Cheers.
Maybe you're looking for something that's not there? I haven't noticed anything and mine is crystal clear HD even with 1080p video on Youtube. There are FPS programs that can test if you are "actually" dropping frames.
storino03 said:
Maybe you're looking for something that's not there? I haven't noticed anything and mine is crystal clear HD even with 1080p video on Youtube. There are FPS programs that can test if you are "actually" dropping frames.
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Nope I know I'm not looking for something that "isn't there," and I'm really not sure why that would be a helpful response.
I had a friend test his new Samsung Galaxy S5, and he sees exactly what I'm seeing.
I guess it doesn't bother most people. No biggie. I should have learned my lesson with my previous Android devices. I'll return the Galaxy Tab and be sure to avoid all Android tablets in future.
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http://youtu.be/KmddgGPA2i0
Runs perfectly in iOS. Not so much on the Tab. You can see it dropping frames in the first 15 seconds. Yuck.
So, I just wiped the Tab Pro 8.4 to see if a fresh install would fix the issue. Of course, it doesn't, and it AMAZES me that nobody complains about these devices for video playback. It simply does NOT work. Stutter, stuttery, jerk, jerk. And that's just something as simple as YouTube..
Returning it to Best Buy in an hour. Total joke, and waste of my time.
Dude, my tab does not lag playing youtube or any videos at hd or higher resolution. Your video that you included as an example is a ****ty video! On my gaming desktop rig with nvidia gpu and hardware encoded flash the video in the first 15 seconds was stuttering, lagging and skipping frames because either it was in the video to begin with when uploaded to youtube, or it was encoded that way by youtube! Also youtube has been having issues as of late streaming back videos to any device!
Do not use youtube as a source for video playback on a newly purchased tablet. Download an 1080p clip that android supports or a 2560p clip and try it out. You will be amazed!
WilliamG said:
Nope I know I'm not looking for something that "isn't there," and I'm really not sure why that would be a helpful response.
I had a friend test his new Samsung Galaxy S5, and he sees exactly what I'm seeing.
I guess it doesn't bother most people. No biggie. I should have learned my lesson with my previous Android devices. I'll return the Galaxy Tab and be sure to avoid all Android tablets in future.
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http://youtu.be/KmddgGPA2i0
Runs perfectly in iOS. Not so much on the Tab. You can see it dropping frames in the first 15 seconds. Yuck.
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go look for the 4k birds video on youtube and play it at 1080p on the tab once everything is tweaked! plays butter smooth!
skyhawk21 said:
Dude, my tab does not lag playing youtube or any videos at hd or higher resolution. Your video that you included as an example is a ****ty video! On my gaming desktop rig with nvidia gpu and hardware encoded flash the video in the first 15 seconds was stuttering, lagging and skipping frames because either it was in the video to begin with when uploaded to youtube, or it was encoded that way by youtube! Also youtube has been having issues as of late streaming back videos to any device!
Do not use youtube as a source for video playback on a newly purchased tablet. Download an 1080p clip that android supports or a 2560p clip and try it out. You will be amazed!
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go look for the 4k birds video on youtube and play it at 1080p on the tab once everything is tweaked! plays butter smooth!
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Once everything is.... "tweaked?"
My iPad, iPhone (and my iMac) have no trouble playing that video I linked you to, or ANY video (that I've tested) on YouTube, so don't make excuses! The Tab just can't handle it due to - what I suspect - poor video decoding implementation. I'm sure if Samsung/Google/Whoever bothered to fix this, it would be resolved, but... alas, it's not. Again, it's not just YouTube. It's Plex, the ESPN app etc etc. It's noticeably more jerky on the Tab than it is on any of my iOS devices. I even enabled the developer options on the Tab and tried turning on the 2D GPU hardware decoding (or something like that). Made zero difference.
To be more specific:
In this video: http://youtu.be/KmddgGPA2i0
When the camera pans down the back of the white BMW right at the start of the video, perfectly smooth on all my iOS devices - stuttering on the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. Seconds later where the white BMW goes around the corner in slow-motion? Perfectly smooth on all my iOS devices, - stuttering on the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4.
I returned the Tab yesterday. Good riddance. I'm not settling for sub-par video performance on a supposed top-of-the-line tablet, sorry.

No 1080p Video Playback?

Do any of you guys use your Nexus 7 2013 for 1080p videos? It seems that my device isn't able to play 1-2 hr 1080p resolution videos at all through VLC. VLC has no problem playing 720p videos. For 1080p, I get audio but the video doesn't play at all. If I decrease play speed to something less than normal speed, the nexus is able to keep up and play it at a reduced speed, so I'm unsure if it's a VLC issue or if the nexus is just not capable of doing 1080p.
Let me know what your experiences are with 1080p video playback!
I can't recall ever having issues but I'm also not 100% certain I've ever played a 1080p video. I'll toss one on and test it in a little bit. Is it only VLC that's having the issue? And what format is the video you're trying to play? I assume you've tested multiple video files and also played them on another device to make sure it's not the files that are bad?
Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
The 1080p videos I tried to play are mp4 files. I don't know enough about videos to find out encoding these files are in (if that even matterS), but they're pretty large at 1.8GB and 1.6GB. I will try another 1080p video I downloaded a while ago.
Out of curiosity, what version of VLC are you running? Mine is VLC v0.9.10 Revision 630a95b (2014-10-16)
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Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
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I just tested a different 1080p movie and it worked fine. I guess there's something wrong with some of these video files I have. Thanks for your help!
Yeah I figured that's all it was. Not sure what version VLC I'm on, but its the latest. Just reinstalled it the other day.
Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
ShannonAUT said:
Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
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VLC is MUCH better than MX Player. It's pretty much the de-facto king of video players, on any platform. Besides, he already solved his problem, it was a bad file.
That might be true on other platforms but on Android I had it constantly crashing or not playing some files whereas mx-player played everything.
Just saying you could give it a try. I've been using vlc since way back on pc and I am still using it, just not on Android. (but granted I haven't tried the last release)

no 1080p 60fps videos

Hello can anyone else confirm that we can't watch 1080p videos at 60 fps it's like we don't get the option or is that a YouTube problem
Yes I'm having the same issue. I've left a bad review on the Play Store.
acheney1990 said:
Yes I'm having the same issue. I've left a bad review on the Play Store.
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yes this is actually a shame you cant watch a simple hd video since 4k are now main stream

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