[DISCUSSION] Physical watch versus Smart watch... - LG Watch W7

What do you think of the physical watch over a smart watch idea?
I think it would be fine if the physical part would be transparent, for example when watching emails it would be completly transparent but normally there would be a led lighting it up

I like the idea of an analog watch with some smart watch features, the reliability of analog would go great with some basic use-cases of digital. Like, a watch that sends text messages? A watch that makes calls? What's the point when you have a phone in your pocket.
For privacy, I prefer analog versions of as much things as I can. Too many companies tracking everything you do on digital stuff.

davidhozic said:
What do you think of the physical watch over a smart watch idea?
I think it would be fine if the physical part would be transparent, for example when watching emails it would be completly transparent but normally there would be a led lighting it up
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To me, this sounds like strapping your car behind some horses. I personally think it's not such a catchy idea, .... but to each his own!

davidhozic said:
What do you think of the physical watch over a smart watch idea?
I think it would be fine if the physical part would be transparent, for example when watching emails it would be completly transparent but normally there would be a led lighting it up
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Doesn't Sound like a bad idea to me!

Smart Watch is better
The thing we wear on our wrists is getting a new life, and that is tech. With touchscreen and sensors, watches are becoming "smartwatches."
We're seeing an era in which everything wants to be improvised with technology. But how do these relatively new gadgets stand against the giants which has built their fame for ages?
We humans see tech a solution to a problem. When we have no way to communicate, we create telephones.
When we need communication mobile, we create smaller devices. When we need portable computing machines, we develop smaller computers we can hold on our palms. Technologies were known to create something based on our needs; it fixes things and eases the way we interact with our world.
But tech isn't stopping there. It's also moving into an industry we know thrives and survives well even without them. Techs are getting into your wardrobe; they're coming as part of your daily clothing. In short, they want to be inseparable from humans.
Apple Watch
With tech getting on our wrists, Apple has it with the Apple Watch, Samsung has it and Pebble also.
More contenders are up and against each other for the market that is once dominated with the likes of Swiss watchmakers. But how do these gadgets affect the industry? They certainly caught a lot of headlines, and they're all up against those old-fashioned watchmakers that made the value of a "watch" at stake.
Apple and others have taken a long time before having the proper time for the proper technology, and the vision to being their products to the market.
What we have on our wrists, previously, were worn by millions; they show bits of time, date and some others. Tech makers are fond on putting more things than necessary, but this time, they made another successful debut.
In the age of information, tech companies are putting more and more information. Smartwatches put a lot more things on your wrist. And the possibility is that there will be more things than you ever need on a device strapped tightly on your wrists.
Will these smartwatches be a replacement to the old-fashioned handmade state-of-the-art pile of cogs and gears? No. The traditional market will always have its own fans because they never want to purely put information on the wrist.
They all move in a different market.

Mohit Bansal Chandigarh says Smart Watches are Better Than Physical Watches
Mohit Bansal Chandigarh says Smart Watches are better as they offer loads of features which are helpful in our daily routine. Some of the features are activity and fitness tracking, heart rate monitoring, GPS, calorie tracking, Barometer, Sedentary Reminder, and Sleep Monitoring.

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The thing we wear on our wrists is getting a new life, and that is tech. With touchscreen and sensors, watches are becoming "smartwatches."
We're seeing an era in which everything wants to be improvised with technology. But how do these relatively new gadgets stand against the giants which has built their fame for ages?
We humans see tech a solution to a problem. When we have no way to communicate, we create telephones.
When we need communication mobile, we create smaller devices. When we need portable computing machines, we develop smaller computers we can hold on our palms. Technologies were known to create something based on our needs; it fixes things and eases the way we interact with our world.
But tech isn't stopping there. It's also moving into an industry we know thrives and survives well even without them. Techs are getting into your wardrobe; they're coming as part of your daily clothing. In short, they want to be inseparable from humans.
Apple Watch
With tech getting on our wrists, Apple has it with the Apple Watch, Samsung has it and Pebble also.
More contenders are up and against each other for the market that is once dominated with the likes of Swiss watchmakers. But how do these gadgets affect the industry? They certainly caught a lot of headlines, and they're all up against those old-fashioned watchmakers that made the value of a "watch" at stake.
Apple and others have taken a long time before having the proper time for the proper technology, and the vision to being their products to the market.
What we have on our wrists, previously, were worn by millions; they show bits of time, date and some others. Tech makers are fond on putting more things than necessary, but this time, they made another successful debut.
In the age of information, tech companies are putting more and more information. Smartwatches put a lot more things on your wrist. And the possibility is that there will be more things than you ever need on a device strapped tightly on your wrists.
Will these smartwatches be a replacement to the old-fashioned handmade state-of-the-art pile of cogs and gears? No. The traditional market will always have its own fans because they never want to purely put information on the wrist.
They all move in a different market.
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Very true. Absolutely agree.

Omega Seamaster / Longines Conquest / TAG / Rolex are statements in their own right - not just for blind technology. Hey, maybe we are so engrossed with tech that we fail to see that some may NOT want a beeper on their wrist for every notification that comes in/even if customized.
There's something called too much of it.

Hii every one,
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Does not look good Sound I think it's a bad Idea.... !!! You have to again focus on it.
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i think its a good idea but i think smart watch is better and it provides a lot of features.
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MetaWatch Strata

For those who haven't seen it yet, MetaWatch is releasing a commercial version in the very near future. You can buy into the project on KickStarter, similar to the Pebble:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/metawatch/metawatch-strata-the-smartwatch-for-the-iphone-4s
MetaWatch has been shipping a really nice watch for a while now. In fact they have three models (Original Digital, Analog, Updated digital (available in white and black) but they are technically developer models, not really intended for prime time, normal consumer use. The Strata WILL be a consumer model. It's designed as a sports watch, so the colors are a little "splashy" in my opinion, but still a nice looking watch.
I've been using one of the updated digital models for a couple of months now and I really love it. They have some very creative people who are developing for it and putting out some interesting updates to it. That's reason one that I bought mine.
Reason two is that the MetaWatch people came from Fossil. They aren't computer guys who decided to build a watch. Rather they are watch and computer guys building a smart watch. They history with watches makes me more confident they'll get the watch part right.
Finally, I think MetaWatch gets it right in terms of their philosophy. Many of the recent offerings I've seen seemed to be designed as a stand alone units that happen to also happen to connect with a phone. Some of them have Wifi, GPS, even MP3 playback and headphone jacks. Some even run a version of Android on them. For me, personally, I don't want another device that I have to update software on, or that duplicates many of the functions I already have on my phone. I want a smart watch that works as an auxiliary display. Giving me relevant information, at a glance, without needing to mess around with menus. The MetaWatch does this really, really well.
Anyway, long story short... check out the watch. I think you'll like it.
That looks really good. I'll stick with the Pebble I only had to kick in $99 for, though, because of price.
Well, they were late in getting things shipped out, but the Strata is now finally shipping out to backers. You can also buy it now and should have it in time for Christmas...
http://metawatch.myshopify.com/

Android Wear not ready for 'Prime Time' - Returned 360

First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
I still don't understand why people think we care why or even that they are returning their devices.
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akellar said:
I still don't understand why people think we care why or even that they are returning their devices.
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Classic reply! But I invite serious thoughts and suggestions that other users can use to make an informed decision for buying Moto 360 or Wear device.
Thanks.
sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's all screen and marketing until they actually put the thing on the market and it works.
Exactly how many choices do you have when buying an apple phone? Two models and a choice ($$$) of memory.... Wee! Did you catch the part where they said the iwatch will have about a day of power? Will that be average in 2015?
I will stick with cutting edge choice. You have more vendors producing wear watches the further we get so we have many more product cycles in play.
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It's all screen and marketing until they actually put the thing on the market and it works.
Exactly how many choices do you have when buying an apple phone? Two models and a choice ($$$) of memory.... Wee! Did you catch the part where they said the iwatch will have about a day of power? Will that be average in 2015?
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I think you are missing the point. I am not thinking about buying Watch, I would just like Wear to be more polished. Seems like if Google has strategy, they haven't forcefully executed the strategy so that average consumer knows what product roadmap will look like. As for power, today's TIZEN and some Wear watches do offer longer battery life. I am not sure why Moto chose to go with older processor and what implications it has on battery life.
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I will stick with cutting edge choice. You have more vendors producing wear watches the further we get so we have many more product cycles in play.
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Exactly my thoughts...until I see 2nd or 3rd cycle of products, I will sit on sidelines.
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I think you are missing the point. I am not thinking about buying Watch, I would just like Wear to be more polished. Seems like if Google has strategy, they haven't forcefully executed the strategy so that average consumer knows what product roadmap will look like. As for power, today's TIZEN and some Wear watches do offer longer battery life. I am not sure why Moto chose to go with older processor and what implications it has on battery life.
Exactly my thoughts...until I see 2nd or 3rd cycle of products, I will sit on sidelines.
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My point is the single producer product line and marketing is all apple has. They put on a good show. Problem is the features on their phones are old to most android users. They talked about a watch that isn't real yet. It's not on the market. It's os isn't on any device yet. So they market and market.
Android is our os. We have separate manufacturers using this os which leaves each manufacturer to market their own distinct features. I think Motorola marketed this watch pretty well. For using an old chip, they are still having a hard time keeping stock. I personally think mine is great. Battery lasts all day for me. Os improvements will come. Google promised them often. This is cutting edge on Google time, not apple. Sorry you didn't like it, hope by gen2 you will.
I find it funny that I've heard SO many people bad talk square smartwatches and say how ugly they are, especially Apple fans. But now that Apple announced a SQUARE smartwatch they all think it's the best invention ever.
I have a Moto 360 and I'm still learning things it can do. It is a wide open platform with tons of innovation happening. Good value.
I watched the Apple September event, second hour on Watch, and LOL'd at all the fake prototype and incomplete demonstrations. Saying the Watch is *ahead* of the Moto 360 is ignorance. You actually believe everything you saw was working? Really?
But, you can drink whatever kool-aid Apple is selling and I don't care. Just remember Google is killing them on services like Maps, Search, and Voice. So, my opinion for Apple fan boys is put up or shut up. Let us see WHAT and WHEN they ACTUALLY ship something, and how it compares AT THAT TIME with Android Wear.
Good luck.
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sshark said:
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time.
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I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not. If you watched the same thing I did I cant see how you thought that watch was anything but a incredibly ugly kids toy. Drawing pictures on a tiny watch screen and sending heartbeats is a joke. What adults would do that? Seriously?
In reality you are comparing a real life product to apple$ over hyped marketing material for the watch not the actual watch itself with it's shortcomings. Did you know it has a days worth of battery? They conveniently didn't mention that except to a CNBC analyst afterwords and that they weren't happy with it. I bet it has WORSE battery life than the 360.
IMO the 360 is light years ahead of the apple watch.
It appears to me Apple is trying to make a computer for your wrist where as android wear is meant to be a companion. In this way I think less is more and wear is simply a better product.
I don't get the battery complaints.. My 360 is sitting at 50% after about 13hrs of pretty decent use.
Wear will continue to get better but as it stands I think its pretty steller. Apple's product is confusing and more over currently doesn't really exist.
Well, coming from a pebble and loved the openness of that platform. Then tried the LG G Watch and thought to myself that it couldn't be up to par. I found myself flipping both my kickstarter pebble and pebble steel within a day of usage of the LG G Watch. I drank the kool-aid and chose android wear not of what it can do now, even though it did as much as my pebble does in my case, it was the potential. So I can see where you are coming from the prime time statement. But as a pretty heavy user when it comes to data, I can see android wear leaping real far when it comes to Android L. I don't foresee L being polished either, but I just see the potential that android wear has scratched the surface and the devs will have heaps of fun with this platform. I mean just look at the facer app.
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It appears to me Apple is trying to make a computer for your wrist where as android wear is meant to be a companion. In this way I think less is more and wear is simply a better product.
I don't get the battery complaints.. My 360 is sitting at 50% after about 13hrs of pretty decent use.
Wear will continue to get better but as it stands I think its pretty steller. Apple's product is confusing and more over currently doesn't really exist.
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THIS.
If you spent any time on your android wear device (or any smartwatch), you'll realize that trying to turn your wrist device into a mini-smartphone is a stupid proposition when (1) the screen is small (2) forms of input are limited, and most importantly (3) a smartphone is literally right in your pocket.
Google understands this well, since most everything in Android Wear is completed with 2 or fewer swipes OR with pure voice. Apple will fail in this regard. Imagine trying to find your app in a sea of apps on a 1.X inch screen, then having to zoom into a group of apps to select your intended app. Sounds WAY more fun than just pulling out your phone and getting the task done without all the frustration.
Anybody who has tried to actually do anything meaningful on a smart watch while *walking* knows that it's an exercise in frustration.
This is the one time that Google took the simpler method, and will win out because of it.
Plus, the apple watch is vapor until next year, anyways.
This whole idea of wearables is still "new" so it's expected to have different opinions from both sides. I was an iPhone user when they first released the iPhone and got all the iPhones until the iPhone 5. But like someone else said, it got boring because the OS was the same. Now I consider my self a hardcore android user and so is everyone else in the family.
Anyway, I also bought Moto 360 and used it for about a week extensively. But after using it for a while, I realized the OS just doesn't have a lot of use for me PERSONALLY. I wear a real watch and it was a choice of wearing a Moto 360 or a mechanical watch. This whole idea of charging every night just didn't work for me as I had to carry my pad everywhere. But some of the things that I do miss are the Google Now where I can just talk to my watch and find out information without pulling out my phone and opening apps. This DOES have a lot of potential for the future when the developers start making exciting apps for it but for now, it just depends on the user on what their looking for. Meanwhile, my friend has this was and he said it's sufficient for his needs and it's worth it.
Realistically, people should not give Moto 360 bad rating just because it doesn't have the features that their Android 4.4 has.We said the something when Google first released the first Android OS. Just give it time and see what they bring out.
sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's a geek toy and, unless you have mental problems, you are AWARE about what you are buying.
Also I can bet my car that after Apple revealed its watch specs the next Motorola watch will be ways better.
It's up to you and you only.
Just my 2 cents. :L
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sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's a geek toy and, unless you have mental problems, you are AWARE about what you are buying.
Also I can bet my car that after Apple revealed its watch specs the next Motorola watch will be ways better.
It's up to you and you only.
Just my 2 cents.
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sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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I completely disagree with you.
I am also a big Android user, I watched the Apple Watch presentation and I cannot be happier with AW after it. Yes Apple is a trendsetter, yes it would be blind to not see what else the market has to offer however you are comparing Apples and Pears
AW is said to be and IS a "notifications and information to your wrist" platform in order to avoid constantly checking your phone because a heavy user can check is phone up to 160 times a day but really just gets the info without even acting on it more more than 50% of the time. AW gets you the information easily and you are done because you do not intend to act on it.
Whereas Apple Watch took a different path, a "subsidiary" of the iPhone. It does not replace but it complements with phone functions. WhoTF needs to have a map on their wrist with a crown to zoom in? AW give you directions if you need direction. If you need precise map tools, you have a 4"+ screen in your pocket or purse.
I think you should move to iOS all together and zoom in / zoom out on maps on your wrist if you think AW is mistaken and if you think that Apple Watch really gave you a mini orgasm while AW didn't
On my side, I am happy to have my statusbar on my wrist. I do not need more than that, I do not want more than that. I have a 4.95" screen in my pocket and a watch is not going to make me leave it in there to be just a mini Bluetooth hotspot for the watch.
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@parth6512, is right. It comes down to how it works for you personally.
For me it's a great addition.
1) I wanted a new watch. Done.
2) I leave my phone sitting on my radio playing Pandora when I work as a plumber. Now when I get a text or phone call, I don't need to go see who it is. If it's a text I know what it is and can reply by voice if I'd like too and if it's a call I can accept it since my earpiece is usually in.
I actually find myself using my BT earpiece more than I was before now.
And to compare some pictures of a watch to an actual device is just silly.
And who wants to pinch to zoom on their watch? And to try and look at a map rather than just get your turn notifications? That's just bizarre.
I'll pull out my phone to look at a map. That's what a 5.5" screen is for.
I just ordered my moto 360, I think it is the prettiest smart watch in market right now, and the omap processor is not a deal breaker in anyway( it's a watch, you won't be playing hardcore games on it). I would brvsingvmy moto 360 n weekends and special occasions, whereas my weekdays watch would be tgevlgvg watch. As indicated by the reviewers, the battery would last a single day(not a problem at all).
I watch-fugly, cartoonish, over hyped piece of junk
sshark said:
First I am die-hard Android enthusiast and have had several Androids over the years.
But after watching Apple Watch keynote address, it became clear to me that Wear is not yet ready for prime time. Wear is still in its infancy and looks like Google is not interested in giving finished product. Just like Android itself, Google will take its own time to develop slick and chic platform while we keep on buying mediocre/cut rate products.
Looking at screens from Apple Watch, either something drastic has to happen for Wear platform to bring functionality or just plain wait.
As for, Moto 360, form is a beauty but I couldn't justify investing 250 quids for 4-year old processor and average battery life. I am going to wait until other manufacturers come up with better watches (with up to date infrastructure) and Wear itself is more user friendly!
Good ride with Moto 360 for 72 hours, while it lasted....
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It's funny how people are so different. I watch the Apple announcement video and tried very hard but couldn't find much to like about the Apple watch. It's visual appearance is what surprised me. Apple is usually the best looking product available. But I wouldn't put them in the top two with the one they showed on stage. Square? Really? It looks like a thick brick. It will not fit under a buttoned shirt sleeve.
As to the operation of the watch, Leo Laporte summed up the Apple watch pretty succinctly: "It looks like it was designed for Japanese school girls. "
Yeah, I completely disagree as well. I wonder what most people are looking for out of a smartwatch. I like the notifications and the actual watch part. There isn't a whole lot more than I want to do with it. Some quick access apps will be nice in time as they are built, but watching the Apple presentation makes it looks like their watch does almost as much as their phone, and doesn't do it very well. Instead of the Apple of old in the Jobs era where they'd come out with less features for a good clean platform to start and add more with time, they've piled very feature they could into an ugly package, with a very poor UI.
Don't get me wrong, I love that Apple came out with their watch. I love that it does all of this, but only to help fuel the competition. It's hard to say which is "better". It's fairly clear the Apple Watch does "more", but I think it does so in a very poor manner. The launcher, the silly digital crown, the pointless "features" like drawing on a tiny screen on your wrist. More isn't always better. There's a reason why they didn't talk about battery life. You know if it was worth talking about, they would have. Maybe smartwatches can evolve into more powerful devices, but they need to evolve there as we learn better ways to design the hardware AND software of a unique device, rather than try to stuff it all into a first gen device. I think the next version of the Apple Watch will be toned down quite a bit and will be much cleaner and more usable, but it marks an interesting change as Apple's first big "new" product since Jobs left and it shows a new attitude in the company where absolute refinement is no longer forefront.
For now, I'm perfectly happy for a nice clean and minimal design that tells me the time and gives me notifications. While I do wish for some changes, fixes, updates, and all that, a new version of Wear will be coming soon and I'm good with what I've got until then. This is a very much polarized topic as it applies not only to technology choice but fashion choice as well, and with the fashion sense of most of the "smartwatch type" people I know, it should be entertaining to say the least.

Samsung Galaxy Gear vs Sony Smartwatch 2 - Detailed Comparison

Seems like Sony has decided to go a step backwards in designing their smart watches... The SW2 was fantastic and very useful because it handled like a small phone, being able to have your apps displayed across home screens and having the ability to download many other apps. Android Wear just doesn't appeal to me... It's way too simplified and dumbed down of an experience for my liking.
so your contribution to the sw3 forum is "I don't want a sw3" lol
Even better, I don't want a ducati, I want a car, the use of only two wheels is a big step backward in the world of driving.
None of this is relevant feedback. If you want an android wear watch that is perfectly readable in daylight and can keep on all day without worrying about battery life, this is the one. The main cons in my book are the lack of interchangeable straps, the lack of wireless /easy charging, and the lack of a heart rate monitor. That said, as of today, I think it's the best aw option because of the usefulness of the screen.
Fwiw I have an original gwatch, moto 360, and briefly a gear live.
Khidr said:
The main cons in my book are the lack of interchangeable straps, the lack of wireless /easy charging, and the lack of a heart rate monitor. That said, as of today, I think it's the best aw option because of the usefulness of the screen.
Fwiw I have an original gwatch, moto 360, and briefly a gear live.
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This watch does have interchangeable straps. I also wish it had wireless charging, but I'm okay with it due to the IP68 rating. Also, the fact that it's micro USB and not a proprietary charging cable/crable is a plus in my opinion. Concerning heart rate monitor's, it's lack is apparent but at the same time, HRM's are not very accurate in wrists compared to chest or arm bands. I won't miss it.

Are Amazon reviews for real?

Periodically looking at Amazon reviews, which are raving for the most part. Best watch ever created, no problems etc. Given all the problems being bought up here, I have to wonder, are these reviews for real? I had the same experience with some IP security cameras I bought.. all these rave reviews about how great they were, easy to install and set up... No one mentioning the complications and issues of port forwarding needed to access cameras remotely. They were not even close to being easy to set up, even the tech support had trouble getting them set up via remote access. (I actually ended up figuring it out myself after they gave up and said the advanced tech support would call me.) That experience left me wondering if these review are actually legit...
Are they Verified?
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Periodically looking at Amazon reviews, which are raving for the most part. Best watch ever created, no problems etc. Given all the problems being bought up here, I have to wonder, are these reviews for real? I had the same experience with some IP security cameras I bought.. all these rave reviews about how great they were, easy to install and set up... No one mentioning the complications and issues of port forwarding needed to access cameras remotely. They were not even close to being easy to set up, even the tech support had trouble getting them set up via remote access. (I actually ended up figuring it out myself after they gave up and said the advanced tech support would call me.) That experience left me wondering if these review are actually legit...
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Look for Amazon Verified Purchase. Also, not every one is as tech savvy or as picky as many of the folks here. This is a fine looking watch and functions well as such.
The reddish brown tint is a little annoyance that I would not of even noticed if it was not mentioned here and even after it was it took me a while to make out what they were talking about. I don't think the HRM on any of the devices I have owned is even 75% accurate most of the time and this is not what I would call a sport watch. The black one looks a little more sporty but who wants a metal band on a sport watch?
Most of the time, people that are happy with something will rarely come here unless they are a total tech head. For example, over a million Samsung 6 edge phones were sold and take a look at the forum total for that device and you get the idea that maybe five percent of the people that buy these things ever learns about the device.
So if all you read and believe comes from XDA then you will pass on a lot of devices that actually work well under normal use. Consider the source, I'm keeping my watch because it is a great looking watch and does what I need it to do. It comes with a year warranty so if there is a problem that becomes unbearable, I will exercise that right. Go to you tube and watch the reviews of the watch there and also the V.S. comparisons. You'll find that most of them are positive and everyone agrees that this is the nicest watch they own for style, usability, and functionality. It's whatever your personal experience is and your unique preference that is going to make you love or hate this device.
Well put.
I'm happy with my watch even though it has the red tint. I figure this thing only needs to last maybe two years before it looks like a dinosaur. I don't have all of the problems. I would give it four stars. Five if they fix the red tint and the twist to wake algorithm.
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I have kind of stopped coming here because my experience with the watch has been great. The watch looks great, the screen is great and i have gotten multiple compliments on it. It just doesn't match at all the feedback I get from some users here.
My only complaint would be the low vibration strength. I hear the vibration more than feel it. Most times that isn't a problem, but it can be when I'm wearing headphones. I'm trying to figure out if it's a big enough problem to go in a different direction.
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What @vvveith is saying is mostly true - consider the source. Amazon reaches a very large audience and there's no way to know what level of experience those reviewers are comparing against. But since @swngdncr posted the question here on XDA, you'll get a more scrutinous answer. There are basically two kinds of people who visit XDA: 1. Those with an extreme technical knowledge and expertise and 2. Those who want to chat with/collaborate with/get the opinion of #1. That is the kind of community we have here and it's AWESOME.
A very large percentage of what is posted on these boards have little to no relevance to a very large percentage of the general population. But for those of us who are like-minded, we relish the exchange here. Personally, for me, I feel a little let down by Huawei - not because AUO shipped them a batch of defective displays (issues like these are commonplace for early adopters) but because they refuse to acknowledge the issue or even really communicate with their customers. They have engineered insulation in the form of a 3rd party support staff who runs the US call center and forums and cannot speak "officially" on behalf of Huawei but there is no way to contact Huawei directly.
They are a huge player overseas and with a $400 watch, I expect top quality. Like others have mentioned, other watches use similar technology (LG) and do not have these issues. Considering this is their first major entry into the US market, my view of them is now tarnished and I am concerned around support and quality of the upcoming 6P which previously had no doubt in my mind that it would be my next phone.
Good points from everyone. Yes, Amazon is going to have a much broader audience, but in general, it seems to me that the market for Smart Watches is stronger in those who lean to the techi side of things. I've got a couple of decades on most of the people here, and certainly in my social circle, there are very few, almost none in fact that are interested in SW, and those who are, it's the Apple Watch. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, but I would expect that the market for this watch is going to be more heavily weighted to people with technical inclinations that are less likely to accept the kinds of defects that are being reported here. It would be interesting to know what the return rates at Amazon, Google and BB are, and whether the return rate reflects the reviews. Doesn't seem like Huawei is taking a book from how Fitbit is handling their QC issues with the Surge and the Charge, I've now got two replacement Surges, one because of condensation under the screen, the second because the strap is failing. Fitbit is handing out replacements like candy at Halloween... the didn't even ask for pictures on the strap, or that I return the defective product. They do not want to get a bad rap.
I am certainly in the number 2 group of XDA participants Wyld describes... I have technical inclinations, but didn't grow up with tech.. I was an adult by the time PC's started coming into peoples homes. But I come here to learn and get the most out of my devices. I rooted and installed a custom ROM on my Asus Transformer Prime, all with the help of the wonderful people here on XDA who seem very willing to help out people like myself. I also love the tolerance here... seems that most are very respectful of others opinions... that is refreshing. -cjr-
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What @vvveith is saying is mostly true - consider the source. Amazon reaches a very large audience and there's no way to know what level of experience those reviewers are comparing against. But since @swngdncr posted the question here on XDA, you'll get a more scrutinous answer. There are basically two kinds of people who visit XDA: 1. Those with an extreme technical knowledge and expertise and 2. Those who want to chat with/collaborate with/get the opinion of #1. That is the kind of community we have here and it's AWESOME.
A very large percentage of what is posted on these boards have little to no relevance to a very large percentage of the general population. But for those of us who are like-minded, we relish the exchange here. Personally, for me, I feel a little let down by Huawei - not because AUO shipped them a batch of defective displays (issues like these are commonplace for early adopters) but because they refuse to acknowledge the issue or even really communicate with their customers. They have engineered insulation in the form of a 3rd party support staff who runs the US call center and forums and cannot speak "officially" on behalf of Huawei but there is no way to contact Huawei directly.
They are a huge player overseas and with a $400 watch, I expect top quality. Like others have mentioned, other watches use similar technology (LG) and do not have these issues. Considering this is their first major entry into the US market, my view of them is now tarnished and I am concerned around support and quality of the upcoming 6P which previously had no doubt in my mind that it would be my next phone.
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Try the app vibration notifier
I agree with most of what you guys said. Despite the problems it's a great watch. Just one thing for now that I am actually missing: the qi charging. Today the watch had terrible battery life and I had a qi enabled battery pack on my bag, but the watch charger at home... That fact alone made me consider exchange the HW for the new 360.
I just got mine last night. It's the black case with the black metal band. I ordered one of the "used" ones from Amazon Warehouse, and as far as I can tell it's perfect. I think the only issue was that its box had been scuffed up a bit, which is why they weren't selling it as new. Seems silly to me, but it was over $100 off MSRP, so whatever. Anyway, so far so good: no issues with red tint, charger connection, flickering screen, etc. It's funny, because after reading all the stuff here, I was mentally prepared to ship it right back to Amazon, assuming it would have numerous flaws. But it's really just a great-looking watch!

What are your thoughts on the upcoming Red Hydrogen One?

What are your thoughts on the upcoming Red Hydrogen One? It's specs and software?
Also, do you think the display will be "holographic" as they claim it to be, or just another gimmick?
Drop your thought below. Try not to post links, though you are free to attach pictures.
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The Red Hydrogen intrigues me for several reasons.
First, and foremost, Jim Jannard. Many here may not know why that name is important, but Jim founded Oakley and innovated in an industry that was lacking; completely changing the industry irrevocably. Jim redefined the science and design of eyewear forever as Oakley X Metal was the culmination of impeccable design and perfected materials. Something about my X Metal XX makes me want to see the Titanium version of the Hydrogen One. Jim is a perfectionist and devoted 1000% to what he does. I expect this to be the same.
I expect the approach I've seen in Oakley to continue with RED, and so far, based on everything I have read and seen, the science, technology, and innovation the man is known for is evident in RED devices' design language. Check out Marquee Brownlee's video of the prototype on Youtube. You can see the same principals applied
Another reason I am excited is Holographic display. This will be an industry game-changer. So far, we haven't had a look at it, but soon (i infer from the proto video) we will.
Modular accessories are another aspect that pique my interest. I can say i dislike moto mods due to the bulk it adds to a device, but the implementation on the RED device appears to be similar. (pins, magnets). Soon we will see how much better (or possibly worse) this implementation is.
In an age where the average flagship is already close to $1000, it honestly makes sense for a perfectionist like Jim to enter the scene with the drive, vision, and knowledge to innovate and improve an industry that has had shortcomings prevalent for years. (death of project ara, loss of headphone jacks, puny batteries (looking at you, Moto Z anything), and sub-par quality parts on premium flagship devices. May RED change the landscape of Android forever.
EDIT: well, nope. not happening. Hydrogen One is pointless. Would have been okay a year ago. Releasing what it is, despite whatever future plans is for modules, etc, is still an exercise in futility. What was the vision here? well, aside from riding the coat tails of the RED name while having nothing RED about it. Clearly, I am generally a JJ fan, but not in this instance. i am embarrassed for hyping this for even a millisecond. If you want to make phones, hire someone that knows something about the enthusiast market, bc we drive the whole industry. just ask One Plus. They figured that out 5 years ago. Always ask the users what they require. the 4 view feature is cool, but ultimately limited and novel at best. the modular system, done right (like Google and Motorola failed to do decently) would be amazing. i even had an ad imagined....[Kid rides his bike to the mail box. gets small box with component board (brain module) goes home and slaps it in his RED phone which reboots into a new OS, graphics, etc.]
That phone should be made of titanium bc while it may not last a lifetime, it will outlast a typical glass or aluminum body. that is the leap Jannard should have had his team taking with 2+ years of R+D and his background and knowledge of titanium. the forever phone. instead of a giant hunk of poop like the hydrogen one is.
Sorry for the DP, but i downloaded the spec sheet (for now). It doesnt say much aside from giving some pricing and materials and a screen size. Useful information to an extent, but again, it really doesn't delve into SOC, RAM, Battery.
edit: Battery: Huge.
Ram: Mediocre at best
SOC: total insult to anyone paying more than $500 for a phone.
Does this have wireless charging?
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Does this have wireless charging?
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Although I cant say for sure, since the phone isnt out yet, it seems like it wont due to the lack of a glass or ceramic back. Also the back of the phone seems to be a terrible surface to wireless charge on from a design perspective. It could get a module addon though so fingers crossed.

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