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Greetings,
I bought the GNex from Expansys USA the day it came out and I have had the phone for about 5 days now. There are several things that are making me questions whether or not to keep it, get an exchange, or return altogether. Please advise:
1. The main thing I am concerned with is the battery performance. I am a Noob, so I am not sure how to run all those fancy battery tests, but I can say that when I take the phone off the charger in the morning there is only about 30-40% left by the afternoon, and that is with moderate browsing, music, and a few calls and texts. I installed the Advanced Task Killer to try and save battery life. I am coming from an iPhone 4 (I was locked into it with a contract, bad purchase I know) and it seems that the battery life is way better on the iPhone. Is there a way to determine if my GNex battery or device has a genuine problem before I return this one and potentially get a worse one? Also, I read somewhere that with these batteries they get better over time, is that true?
2. Since I got a GNex from the very first batch sent to the USA, I am wondering if the newly resumed/shipped batches will have the volume fix installed? If so, is it worth me sending back the one I have now for a newly flashed one with the update? How can anyone tell if their device is updated anyway? I have Android Version 4.0.1, but isn't that what everyone has now?
3. The speaker volume is not that impressive, and I tried installing those volume booster apps to no avail. Is the speaker just not that powerful on this device?
Feel free to insult and/or flame me on my previous iPhone usage and also my lack of technical knowledge. I love the GNex because of it's amazing features on paper and all the available bandwidths I can choose from as I travel abroad frequently and this is one of the only penta-band phones I could find other than a few Nokias. But they don't run Andriod!
tk123456789 said:
1. The main thing I am concerned with is the battery performance. I am a Noob, so I am not sure how to run all those fancy battery tests, but I can say that when I take the phone off the charger in the morning there is only about 30-40% left by the afternoon, and that is with moderate browsing, music, and a few calls and texts. I installed the Advanced Task Killer to try and save battery life. I am coming from an iPhone 4 (I was locked into it with a contract, bad purchase I know) and it seems that the battery life is way better on the iPhone. Is there a way to determine if my GNex battery or device has a genuine problem before I return this one and potentially get a worse one? Also, I read somewhere that with these batteries they get better over time, is that true?
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Android has "worse" battery life than iOS mostly because it has true multi-tasking and constant connectivity (unless in airplane mode). They generally do improve slightly, but anything 8 - 12 hrs. is pretty average, with "average" usage.
tk123456789 said:
2. Since I got a GNex from the very first batch sent to the USA, I am wondering if the newly resumed/shipped batches will have the volume fix installed? If so, is it worth me sending back the one I have now for a newly flashed one with the update? How can anyone tell if their device is updated anyway? I have Android Version 4.0.1, but isn't that what everyone has now?
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You will get an OTA (over-the-air update) sometime over the next 6 days. Most likely any replacement one you received you would still have to wait for the OTA anyways.
tk123456789 said:
3. The speaker volume is not that impressive, and I tried installing those volume booster apps to no avail. Is the speaker just not that powerful on this device?
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No, it is fairly underwhelming (Nexii always have been actually)
Thank for the quick reply s.m.knipe! Like I said I am new to this type of phone OS, so I appreciate the answers. I forgot to add another question before:
When I make a call, and I tap the icon for speaker phone, and then immediately try and tap the icon for the keypad numbers, there is a delay and the keypad numbers do not appear immediately. I guess I am saying there is a lag of sorts between pressing the speaker icon and the keypad icon to appear. However, this only seems to happen when the phone is taking a while to connect the call. When I tried doing the same thing in a better service area the icons switched back and forth seamlessly.
I really don't notice any defects on the phone at all in terms of build quality as opposed to others' here on this forum that have screen issues and cameras not being centered so that is why I am reluctant to send this one back for replacement if there is really no problem with the battery or speaker. Unfortunately I have no one to compare devices with as this phone is rare in the US. Anyway, I guess I'll be keeping this bad boy and use it as best I can!
Regards
Ok so I just retried making a call in this better reception area, and I still have the lag between the speaker icon and the keypad icon. Must be something else besides the reception?
tk123456789 said:
Greetings,
I bought the GNex from Expansys USA the day it came out and I have had the phone for about 5 days now. There are several things that are making me questions whether or not to keep it, get an exchange, or return altogether. Please advise:
1. The main thing I am concerned with is the battery performance. I am a Noob, so I am not sure how to run all those fancy battery tests, but I can say that when I take the phone off the charger in the morning there is only about 30-40% left by the afternoon, and that is with moderate browsing, music, and a few calls and texts. I installed the Advanced Task Killer to try and save battery life. I am coming from an iPhone 4 (I was locked into it with a contract, bad purchase I know) and it seems that the battery life is way better on the iPhone. Is there a way to determine if my GNex battery or device has a genuine problem before I return this one and potentially get a worse one? Also, I read somewhere that with these batteries they get better over time, is that true?
2. Since I got a GNex from the very first batch sent to the USA, I am wondering if the newly resumed/shipped batches will have the volume fix installed? If so, is it worth me sending back the one I have now for a newly flashed one with the update? How can anyone tell if their device is updated anyway? I have Android Version 4.0.1, but isn't that what everyone has now?
3. The speaker volume is not that impressive, and I tried installing those volume booster apps to no avail. Is the speaker just not that powerful on this device?
Feel free to insult and/or flame me on my previous iPhone usage and also my lack of technical knowledge. I love the GNex because of it's amazing features on paper and all the available bandwidths I can choose from as I travel abroad frequently and this is one of the only penta-band phones I could find other than a few Nokias. But they don't run Andriod!
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1.) Battery is what it is. You might want to wait for undervolted or underclocked kernels or more battery concious roms to come out. There is one (Android Revolution HD) which the first post claims to have better battery life than the stock rom. Second, as pointed out by many members, task killers do not help the battery at all. (Cannot confirm this myself, speculation from different posts) If you wanted, you could post some screenshots about your battery life and screen time and see how it compares to other members with Galaxy Nexus'. Note: The iPhone 4 has lower battery consumption because its clocked significantly less than the Galaxy Nexus (Single core 800mhz i think) and the OS itself is heavily optimized for the phone. Plus, I would assume that the iPhone has less processes running in the background compared to the G-Nexus (could be wrong though)
2.) The volume fix is being rolled out via a software update, so it should automatically be sent to your phone whether its the first batch or the hundredth.
3.) For the speaker volume, you might try changing some settings in the equalizer? Not too sure about this, but many people have reported that the speakers are reasonable in terms of performance and if you seriously feel as though the performance of the speaker is that bad, you could try exchanging it, but I doubt any good would come out of it
tk123456789 said:
Greetings,
1. The main thing I am concerned with is the battery performance. I am a Noob, so I am not sure how to run all those fancy battery tests, but I can say that when I take the phone off the charger in the morning there is only about 30-40% left by the afternoon, and that is with moderate browsing, music, and a few calls and texts. I installed the Advanced Task Killer to try and save battery life. I am coming from an iPhone 4 (I was locked into it with a contract, bad purchase I know) and it seems that the battery life is way better on the iPhone. Is there a way to determine if my GNex battery or device has a genuine problem before I return this one and potentially get a worse one? Also, I read somewhere that with these batteries they get better over time, is that true?
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Since it's a new phone try charging the battery fully and letting it discharge completely. After 3 to 5 times you should see improvement in your battery life. There is a thread on this that gives more info. Also a task killer is a bad idea and the thread covers this topic too.
I have a Nexus S and it's lasts me over 24 hours on a full charge with 3G and WIFI turned on.
mohitrocks said:
1.) Battery is what it is. You might want to wait for undervolted or underclocked kernels or more battery concious roms to come out. There is one (Android Revolution HD) which the first post claims to have better battery life than the stock rom. Second, as pointed out by many members, task killers do not help the battery at all. (Cannot confirm this myself, speculation from different posts) If you wanted, you could post some screenshots about your battery life and screen time and see how it compares to other members with Galaxy Nexus'. Note: The iPhone 4 has lower battery consumption because its clocked significantly less than the Galaxy Nexus (Single core 800mhz i think) and the OS itself is heavily optimized for the phone. Plus, I would assume that the iPhone has less processes running in the background compared to the G-Nexus (could be wrong though)
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The galaxy nexus also has a much larger screen than the iPhone which I think also plays a part in battery consumption
Thanks for the replies! Any link for the thread you mentioned? I tried a search and couldn't locate it...
the screen is, without a doubt, the most power hungry component in the phone.
Typically the battery display says 60% of the battery is being spent on the screen. Is this in line with other GNex users?
Oh, and has no one else noticed the lag I mentioned above in the on-screen display when pressing the speaker icon and then the keypad icon and then the long wait for the keypad coming up when making a call?
nope
ruthlesset said:
Since it's a new phone try charging the battery fully and letting it discharge completely. After 3 to 5 times you should see improvement in your battery life. There is a thread on this that gives more info. Also a task killer is a bad idea and the thread covers this topic too.
I have a Nexus S and it's lasts me over 24 hours on a full charge with 3G and WIFI turned on.
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Anyone know where this thread is that is mentioned above with info about the battery life and why the task killer has issues or is a bad idea?
What really upset me is that my phone was fine I was using 4.4.2 stock and had good battery life even without battery saver being on... Then I went against my ownif it ain't broke don't try to fix it principles and downloaded 4.4.3 Since then I've noticed my phone wasn't as fantastic battery wise as it used to be.. I started becoming conscious of the need to switch on power saver more often as my phone was draining much quicker than 4.4.2. For this reason I can't wait to switch over to lollipop hopefully issues will have been ironed out...without a show of a doubt 4.4.3 is not as battery efficient as 4.4.2, for my phone anyway... It's a sin that android users don't have the flexibility to roll back to previous versions as they see fit really annoying that I have to wait to the next version....I'm not a hardcore tech user so i dont have the confidence to root and all that...if I send my phone back to my phone company will they roll back to 4.4.2 for me?
Is it a carrier branded version? There are apps you can use to see what is draining your battery. Its possible if you have a carrier branded phone, that there is carrier bloatware that is causing battery drain. Try to disable sync or any apps you don't use (particularly the bloat) and see if that helps.
Have a peek at the first 4 posts in the battery help thread in my signature. If you would like help, post the recommended screen shots there. And specify you are on an M8 to avoid confusion.
There's likely an issue.... Battery life can be great on any version, depending on your usage type and setup. ?
battery on 4.on 4.4 sense is 10 times better for me than on 4.4.3 ...i just go back (because i wanted s2w...hope the new kernel source will come in next days) and again further to 4.4.4 because 4.4.3 battery is just to bad...also on original unrooted
Ok just visited the battery help thread and tried some of the suggestions...before without power saving I would get 1 percent drainage every 2-3 minutes with max brightness...now reduced brightness to auto and slider to lowest level and averaging ten minutes per 1 percent....also removed Google now....this is an improvement but didn't have to do this with 4.4.3...I think some apps are not playing nicely with 4.4.3. I hear Google is making a big effort with battery management for lollipop release...
Use an app to see what is draining the battery. Otherwise you are just guessing.
You also never answered my question whether it was carrier branded, as some carrier bloatware has been known to access the data connection frequently and kil the battery.
Hard to help, if you don't respond to suggestions and questions.
Thanks redpoint, I am on Rogers Canada, actually I was just reading that some nexus users also had battery drain issues with 4.4.3 update. One suggestion there was to disable 4g as maybe the updated modem drivers weren't as efficient as the 4.4.2 ones...going to see if I can select 3g on my HTC one m8 and see if that makes a difference...I wonder if HTC have also modified the modem drivers for their 4.4.3 update too?
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Thanks redpoint, I am on Rogers Canada, actually I was just reading that some nexus users also had battery drain issues with 4.4.3 update. One suggestion there was to disable 4g as maybe the updated modem drivers weren't as efficient as the 4.4.2 ones...going to see if I can select 3g on my HTC one m8 and see if that makes a difference...I wonder if HTC have also modified the modem drivers for their 4.4.3 update too?
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Still all guessing without the screen shots.
Gotta help us help you. I dislike guessing. ??
Update: well I just changed my device from 4g to 3g and the signal bar has instantly shot up from two bars to maximum five bars, wondering if this will make a difference to battery life? If so I can live with 3g
mwake4goten said:
Update: well I just changed my device from 4g to 3g and the signal bar has instantly shot up from two bars to maximum five bars, wondering if this will make a difference to battery life? If so I can live with 3g
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Don't like answering questions meant to help you? Weird.
Yeah? Its even worse on 4.4.4. Using the same settings, same apps, same usage patterns, my battery lasts only 10 hours. I used to get 18 hours with %25-%35 left at bedtime. Google sucks - coz, at the end of the day, the combined battery usage of Android System + Android OS + Google Play Services is more than %60!
shirreer said:
Yeah? Its even worse on 4.4.4. Using the same settings, same apps, same usage patterns, my battery lasts only 10 hours. I used to get 18 hours with %25-%35 left at bedtime. Google sucks - coz, at the end of the day, the combined battery usage of Android System + Android OS + Google Play Services is more than %60!
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Go to the thread in my signature and fix your issues. ?
has anyone else seen a dramatic decrease in battery life after the update? My battery went from lasting all day, to now Im lucky to get 5 hrs before its down to 30%..... overall ive seen a drastic decrease in overall performance... has anyone else expierenced worse performance?
athack said:
has anyone else seen a dramatic decrease in battery life after the update? My battery went from lasting all day, to now Im lucky to get 5 hrs before its down to 30%..... overall ive seen a drastic decrease in overall performance... has anyone else expierenced worse performance?
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keep calm and factory reset. That should fix the stability and battery life.
LegoFarmer said:
keep calm and factory reset. That should fix the stability and battery life.
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No better no worse, my battery life has always been great. Example today, unplugged at 7 am , no recharges during the day and it's at 55%.
I used the phone , surfed and checked my texts and email all day
athack said:
has anyone else seen a dramatic decrease in battery life after the update? My battery went from lasting all day, to now Im lucky to get 5 hrs before its down to 30%..... overall ive seen a drastic decrease in overall performance... has anyone else expierenced worse performance?
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You are not alone. I used to be able to go a couple of days on a single charge. Now I'm struggling to make it 12 hours on a single charge.
I was getting almost 2 days when I first started using the note4. After a few months passed I noticed battery life dropping pretty fast throughout the day. Factory resets helped a little, but not much. Lollipop upgrade plus factory reset has seemed to help. I get through a full day now with light browsing/gps(maps)/gaming and fair amount of spotify streaming. Nothing close to what I was getting fresh out of the box.
I am experiencing similar battery issues. Used to charge my phone once every two days. Now, I carry my charger attached to my hip like a feeble iPhone hipster.
I'm also having issues!
I also have seen a large decrease in my battery life since updating to Lollipop. I tried factory resetting twice and nothing seems to help. I was getting 8-9 hours of screen on time on Android 4.4.4 but now I'm somewhere between 4.5-5.5.
Also my note 4 will occasionally get really hot after just normal web browsing. I'm very disappointed in the update. However, performance seems to be a little better....but it wasn't ever really an issue.
I just read an article on gsmarena about the international version of the Samsung galaxy note 4 receiving a firmware update.....hopefully that fixes the problems we're having. We just have to wait for Verizon to send out the update. (Which will probably take a couple of weeks to months).
One thing to keep in mind is that we (those who are having these issues) need to make sure that we contact Verizon in order to make sure that they acknowledge the problem and send out a fix ASAP.
I'm having the same issues since the update...battery sucks. What's the easiest way to inform verizon?
Passpoint Wi-Fi
Noticed that there is a "new" Passpoint Wi-Fi feature that will automatically connect to certified access points.
This is ON by default after the Lollipop update. (Settings >> Wi-Fi >> Advanced)
I just turned it off to see if battery life improves. Never been a fan of automatic Wi-Fi connection features.
Checking on the Lock Screen Weather/Location Update next.
My Note 4 has the battery drain issue now after updating last night to Lollipop but am giving a couple days to see if any improvement. I did do a battery pull after all the updates (system and apps) and it did seem to help.
My Note originally for a couple of days had the battery drain issue. However, after uninstalling the Google Fit app then a reboot the battery life has been great.
Maybe try a battery pull for 20 seconds as well.
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I'm having the same issues since the update...battery sucks. What's the easiest way to inform verizon?
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I think the easiest way to contact Verizon is just by talking with the technical support. Good representatives are hit or miss but Verizon's are generally good.
If you contact them just explain the issue that you are having and they should be putting it on record saying that multiple people are calling in concerning a battery problem. They may have even figured out the culprit (s) and/or found a fIx.
I'm going to be calling today.
The September update is available A528BXXU1CVH6 should be able to be downloaded from usual sources, samfrew, sammobile. Nice surprise so early in the month this time....
Download Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G SM-A528N firmware
Download the latest Samsung firmware for Galaxy A52s 5G with model code SM-A528N. Check out our free download or super fast premium options.
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Early updates usually means not many changes at all. I'll skip this one.
exactly, only security update itself
ShaDisNX255 said:
Early updates usually means not many changes at all. I'll skip this one.
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Where to view the changelist i wonder
They usually just give a vague changelog anyway
The only CSC I've seen that has published it so far is ORX (Slovakia)
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After this update I lost access to Orange Egypt Band 41. I feel now every update samsung is deliberately sabotaging the phone to reduce its performance. And the update before that they removed the band control app.
EDIT: I was able to get B41 back by resetting APN and turning on and off both SIMs but i don't know if that was a bug or intended or what, but I don't trust samsung anymore.
For me, battery life finally got to an acceptable level after this update. Could be it's not just a security update, but even those are good to have.
robogo1982 said:
For me, battery life finally got to an acceptable level after this update. Could be it's not just a security update, but even those are good to have.
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interesting, i'll be installing the update this afternoon after some modifications. btw what do you consider acceptable levels? askin' for myself.
bobfrantic said:
interesting, i'll be installing the update this afternoon after some modifications. btw what do you consider acceptable levels? askin' for myself.
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Coming from a Poco X3 NFC with a 5160 mAh battery, I expected the A52s' 4500 mAh battery to last at least a full 24hrs, but on some days I barely got over 14 hours, which was hugely disappointing. Right now I'm at 20hrs, just over 4 hours of screen time and 35% still left, which is much better than before - even acceptable.
robogo1982 said:
Coming from a Poco X3 NFC with a 5160 mAh battery, I expected the A52s' 4500 mAh battery to last at least a full 24hrs, but on some days I barely got over 14 hours, which was hugely disappointing. Right now I'm at 20hrs, just over 4 hours of screen time and 35% still left, which is much better than before - even acceptable.
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I don't do a lot of heavy things on my phone, Last charge I got 2 days 9 hours out of it with 7.5 hours sot. And thats with the S21FE rom installed at the moment. Mostly things I do are tiktok, play poker, internet stuff, play a 3d snooker game also and other light games... listen to music, lots of chat with whatsapp, messenger, and keeping up on things in telegram. I have a lot of apps in the deep sleep mode also.
A little more information about this update:
Galaxy A52s updated with September 2022 security update
Samsung is a few days late this month, but it's on a roll today. After releasing the September 2022 security ...
www.sammobile.com
The fixed vulnerabilities are listed here: https://security.samsungmobile.com/securityUpdate.smsb
EDIT: and the app security changelog: https://security.samsungmobile.com/serviceWeb.smsb
I notice memory gains with the september patch which is good.
Just received the 5.1 update on US unlocked S21FE. Still exploring changes.
There's been reports of the 5.1 update causing issues on other Samsung devices.
If anyone experiences an issue on the S21 FE, please let us all know.
Bad battery life (8 hours to 6 hours)
Not including object select/crop
Not many changes thats all
MemurBey said:
Bad battery life (8 hours to 6 hours)
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My device's battery life was bad from the very beginning.
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My device's battery life was bad from the very beginning.
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From the latest update my battery life went from 8 SOT to max 6 too.
Yeah, battery life has taken a hit with the 5.1 update. Doesn't inspire confidence throughout the day.
with CSC SEK still waiting for this battery massacre
Been with One UI 5.1 since approx 2 weeks, better battery life for me in idle, a bit less in use but nothing bad.
My speaker seems horrible, sound is not as loud as before and less clear, it's like old gen phone. Or it's just me. But nothing has changed significantly in this release.
Sound quality has gone bonkers. Can't hear anything after update. Speakers are useless now.
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Sound quality has gone bonkers. Can't hear anything after update. Speakers are useless now.
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If you want a parch issued for that, your best bet is to report the problem in the Samsung members app.