I just noticed while looking at the phone from the side my rear camera bump has a slight angle downward. Like the bottom is almost flush with the phone while the top is out the most. It looks like it's by design since when the phone sits on a flat surface the angle would match since it does protrude out towards the top. It looks more drastic in person. The picture here barely shows it.
bobbyphoenix said:
I just noticed while looking at the phone from the side my rear camera bump has a slight angle downward. Like the bottom is almost flush with the phone while the top is out the most. It looks like it's by design since when the phone sits on a flat surface the angle would match since it does protrude out towards the top. It looks more drastic in person. The picture here barely shows it.
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Not sure how you noticed that! But yes it looks like mine is also angled.
vwgti18 said:
Not sure how you noticed that! But yes it looks like mine is also angled.
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I was putting a case on it, and when I turned it sideways the sun hit it just right, and my eye caught the slightest angle. All chance. I wasn't even looking for it.
Same
I have this too. I noticed it when I was putting a dbrand skin on. I assume it's to reduce camera wobble but I don't know.
My original P3 XL purchased on Dec 2018 had it, but i didnt noticed it until earlier this year. I thought my wiping of the lense caused it as time went by... Now on May 2020 i cracked my rear glass, so i did a Assurant replacement... The replacement device i got, was refurb, and was perfectly straight. No lean.... BUT that device had issue with touch sensitivity, so i had it replaced and the new refurb also has a slanted camera glass....
So i dunno, maybe its like that, maybe it should? Who knows.
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The little plastic bits at each side of the keyboard. I've just noticed them now. They're like the screen protecter film you get on electronic devices. I wonder if they indicate areas of possible wear and tear
Yes ... they are at the rear of the keyboard and on the underside of the screen half as well.
I found with mine that at the back there were a couple of scratches in this plastic indicating that the mechanism was so tight that it did mark. Hard to say what it would be like over time.
Did you check your PM re the screen ?
Also ... can you confirm your tilt is very stiff ... particularly the initial movement ... and that when you push the screen back down, just before it goes flat ... that you get a distinct click like a dislocation ?
Paul.
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Yes ... they are at the rear of the keyboard and on the underside of the screen half as well.
I found with mine that at the back there were a couple of scratches in this plastic indicating that the mechanism was so tight that it did mark. Hard to say what it would be like over time.
Did you check your PM re the screen ?
Also ... can you confirm your tilt is very stiff ... particularly the initial movement ... and that when you push the screen back down, just before it goes flat ... that you get a distinct click like a dislocation ?
Paul.
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Paul, I just got mine today and you are right, the tilt is stiff at the initial movement and it also has a click (mechanical) sound just before it goes flat.
as far as scratches are concerned, there are none that i can see.
however, there seems to be a gap between the keys and the screen panel, so there should be no problem in that area pertaining to scratches or friction.
Any sign of that pinched top surface about 1/2" down from the top as the front surface touches the left chrome edge ?
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Any sign of that pinched top surface about 1/2" down from the top as the front surface touches the left chrome edge ?
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Well if the screen is facing towards me then this is happening on the right side surface. Also the protector on the right side (of the keyboard) is a bit worn out so may be that is the reason.
Do you think removing the protector (from either sides of keyboard) will result in scratches?
I too have a stiff one. Yes, the tilt. And when I tilt it back again it has a click. I think the phone feels strong and well-made. I'm already happy with it.
Gutted that I screwed up putting the screen protector on.
<starts searching for new screen protector>
rb14 said:
I too have a stiff one. >
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lol, you'll just have to play with it for a bit...
rb14 said:
I too have a stiff one. And when I tilt it back again it has a click.
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LOL, that's too funny! Sounds like a viagra commercial
Tomo said:
The little plastic bits at each side of the keyboard. I've just noticed them now. They're like the screen protecter film you get on electronic devices. I wonder if they indicate areas of possible wear and tear
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The left-hand plastic managed to get tangled up in the slide mechanism this morning. Was a bit of a mission to get it out but I'm just gonna get rid of that bit. Will leave the right side on for the time being.
Incidentally, the screen protector in the box is very soft and gets marked really easily!
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The left-hand plastic managed to get tangled up in the slide mechanism this morning. Was a bit of a mission to get it out but I'm just gonna get rid of that bit. Will leave the right side on for the time being.
Incidentally, the screen protector in the box is very soft and gets marked really easily!
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If you remove one, I would remove the other one too. Otherwise on side of the screen will experience more friction, what can't be good for the ballance.
I knew you lot would get all double entendrey with that post. For the record, I've been playing with it lots all over the weekend and it's not got any softer. Still nice and firm.
Don't. Just don't.
little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?
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little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?
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Is the plastic cover scratched -- like from rubbing against something?
Ironically, I am having the same issue. I was just searching for a solution on here last night. It seems to have just happened within the past week. The cover on mine doesn't seem to be scratched.
I tried cleaning it vigorously with my shirt, but the haze wouldn't go away. A little more "cleaning" today and most of it seems to be gone.
My buddy fixes copiers, so I figured he might have something that will clean it up good. I will work on this tomorrow and see if I can get it cleared up.
nope no scratches or anything. i'm pretty careful with the phone since i paid full no-contract price for it i've done windex and rubbing alcohol via q-tip...but no success.
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.
yeah, I noticed the same on my tilt 2. The plastic cover makes the pictures blurry. I ended up just removing the plastic camera piece from the back cover. The camera is recessed, so I don't see the need for a plastic cover. Works much better.
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the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.
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Kinda like this:
I've got the European version of the TP2 - it doesn't have any screen in the back cover - just a hole!
big difference..
thanks for posting this....hadn't thought about this issue....
but checked it out...and yep...HUGE difference....
the plastic 'lens cover' looks like a pretty cheap plastic material....
even with the best care and cleaning it will ultimately change....
mine's filthy and scratched a little....
considering popping it out
I popped mine out and it looks a lot better now. The contrast/sharpness is much better without it. The camera is actually pretty decent now, weird that htc ruins the cam by putting these plastic pieces of crap over the lens!
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Kinda like this:
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that's exactly how my pictures came out. thanks for posting examples.
those of you that have popped that plastic cover off haven't had any dust or foreign debri issues getting in the phone, without it? that's my only concern.
Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.
It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.
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Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.
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no prob. figured picture quality was a lens cover issue..went on a hunch. loving the pictures and the phone so much more now
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It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.
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true..i airblow mine once a week at least. dust build up is incredible...pretty much a dust magnet. looks like i'll attempt to drill a hole or take the plastic off completely. picture quality is too d*** good without it
If you are concerned about dust, when removing the clear plastic piece, place a small piece of gaffers or masking tape (with one end curled over) on the hole. This will create a small flap that will prevent dust from entering. When it's time to take a photo just peel back the tape a little.
Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.
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Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.
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i'm gonna keep the plastic off for a couple of days and see how it goes.
side note and another small observation: looks like a slight bad design flaw on HTC's part, for the HTC Tilt 2 if you look at other phones...blackberry, nokia's, and even the HTC Pure..basic keyboardless version of the Tilt2...you can see the lens higher up on the back of the phone. now hold you're phone as you usually would while browsing the web or checking the weather. don't know bout anyone else, but i place my pointing finger along the back of the phone as stable support..unknowingly covering the lens part. that and possible oxidation (the yellow discoloring that occurs on your car's headlights) may lead to the bad quality pictures.
Night and day difference in popping out that cheap plastic lens. WOW, better then my 3.1 digital camera now.
Yeah, I did that on my Kaiser and it was much better. Bought a replacement back cover just for that purpose, but I can't find another cover specifically for the Tilt 2 yet, so I just can't bring myself to do it to this phone yet.
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I got my TP2 just one and a half week ago new here in Germany. And there was no plastic lense in the battery cover, just a hole.
But the quality of the camera is more than poor. I had an SE X1 with the same 3.2 MP before it -that was goot quality. The TP2's quality is more than poor compared with the X1. Like 1 MP (TP2) to 3 MP (X1). Even at a good sunny day a picture in a garden is without sharpness at the edges and in the bottom of the front. The camera of the X1 I used more and more often instead of my standard digital camera for same easy pictures and it was ok. But the camera of the TP2 ist unusable compared with the X1
I just unboxed a new steel grey s2 that now, unlike the platinum version, has a silver coloured lens surround on the back. I noticed that there appears to be several "scuffs" on this part, at least i think they are scuffs. I say "think" because they are only visible at certain angles. Im thinking it may be the etched pattern is different in spots giving the appearance of scratches...any thoughts?
Do they look like rings? If so, they're just part of the camera design.
Not really...
I think I know what you are referring to. But these look like little scuff marks and are most apparent on one of the edges. Truly, it's so likely nothing but I'm kinda anal...
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I think I know what you are referring to. But these look like little scuff marks and are most apparent on one of the edges. Truly, it's so likely nothing but I'm kinda anal...
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Ah. My Hercules also has some scuffs on the edge of the camera, but it's because I use it a lot. Maybe even though T-Mobile said the device was new, it really was a refurb.
That's all fine dandy but if it is refurb it should not cost as much.. just my 2 cents
My screen seems to be showing a bit of warping right at the bottom of the screen near the back and home buttons, right on the edge of the screen. Not so much that you notice but it warps the light if you use the screen to reflect the world, and only in that spot. Bit disappointed considering its a totally flat piece of glass!
Anyone else got this issue? Might get onto three about it. I'll see if it's widespread first.
I'll try get a picture later, or video if I can.
Warped like raised wavy or warped like wrapped screen that goes downwards into it at the edge? If either of those makes sense..
I saw that when in 120hz mode, but it looked more like an intended effect to me. It wasn't unpleasant in my eyes.
Also seemed to only happen on long scrolling windows. Short scrolling I could not see it.
I would say it's a pinch under the glass, but the glass looks fine, just reflections of the surroundings in the glass so right where the back button is. It's definitely not lifting and looks flat, but the light dances and create an almost m shape. It's far from anything serious, as you need to look for it, but just something to keep an eye on for early adopters.
I don't think the screen refresh affects it, as I can recreate with screen off.
Got pics from the screen, using my **** ipad camera. But you can see the warp. The white shelf is flat, being a shelf, so you can see it shows as straight up the screen then at the bottom forms an m shape.
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Got pics from the screen, using my **** ipad camera. But you can see the warp. The white shelf is flat, being a shelf, so you can see it shows as straight up the screen then at the bottom forms an m shape.
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Huh, i can see what your on about.
Mine doesnt have that, so maybe your device has a defect.
Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.
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Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.
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So as I understand, the colour of the case (Gray green) does not match the colour of the phone (Gray green)?
my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey
QPR said:
my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey
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maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?
eswar539 said:
maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?
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that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers
QPR said:
that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers
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Get 2mm one. Fits good
I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?
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Get 2mm one. Fits good
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I bought some for when I got a replacement fold 3. It's worth it. I could reuse the case.
mattcall said:
I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?
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I was able to chose the color in the US.
One thing I do like about the pen attachment; when the pen is installed with the phone open and the power and volume buttons ot the top, I can slide the pen out a couple inches and with my left hand I can completely hold the open phone. The pen slides between my middle and pointer fingers and the phone balances while open and is weildable.
Maybe I should add a photo?