So I got my moto Z2 force 6mo ago at t-mobile rooted, TWRP, stock rom. No problems at till the screen has pretty bad burn in at the top and bottom of the screen. So Motorola is going to replace my phone with very little effort on my part trying to encourage them. Now I have a problem once I unroot and go back to stock and lock bootloader there's this software change screen. My question is if I send it in will they still replace it or not. I don't want to waste my time if they will not. So if anyone has tried please let me know. I all ready got the shipping lable so I'm kinda on a time crunch. Oh yeah the only thing they ask is if there was liquid damage or if the phone was damaged in a drop. Thanks Guys.b
The second you unlock your bootloader your warranty is voided, so if your trying to get it repaired using warranty it's not going to happen. Relocking your bootloader doesn't make your warranty valid again.
asislife20 is right. Only thing I think could happen is if Motorola/Lenovo act like HTC and see it as a hardware defect and still replace it. I was lucky and was able to warranty out my unlocked M7 due to it having a known hardware defect. Burn in is a grey area at best since I don't know many people who have it. My Z2 has been in service for over a year and doesn't have any burning.
Most of the time companies will know if it is a warranty due to unlocking (like breaking your partition table) or hardware (like the purple camera issue on the M7). Hardware defects are usually warrantied. I'd call them back and make sure
Well I FedEx it today so I will know in a few days. They gave me the option to send me a new one then after I got it I could send mine back but they were going to put a 500$ hold on my account but I opted to send it first then get the replacement once they get my old one. The root has nothing to do with screen burn anyhow. It's a great phone for power and it's not a Samsung or Apple, everyone I know has sold out to those two it's sad there are much better phones out there but most people are to goofy to try them out.
I will for sure let ya guy know witch ever way it goes. It's overnight shipping so Ill know soon. Fingers crossed.
McRoberts said:
I will for sure let ya guy know witch ever way it goes. It's overnight shipping so Ill know soon. Fingers crossed.
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I have had motorola replace a phone even tho I had previously unlocked the bootloader I didnt bother to relock it since they already know its been unlocked, got a new phone anyway
The repair order online says exchange and they sent me an email saying that the problem was resolved. so its looking good. I just want my phone back this Honor 6x doesn't cutting it.
The sent me a new Moto z2 force today. No questions asked in the end. Took 7 days but there's nothing like a new phone to break in. Thanks for the responses.
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Don't exactly know what this is or how it happened. This alteration is in a perfect square in the middle of my rectangle. Also, there are a lot of small "dots" visible. The screen shows through it perfectly, so I know there is nothing wrong with the actual screen or LCD. Maybe the digitizer? The phone functions perfectly, touchscreen and all. Does anyone know what this is or how to fix it?
If this puppy's still under warranty I'd be hitting that up ASAP. That doesn't look right AT all
note: you have 1 year from the date you purchased the phone with AT&T for hardware issues.
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Don't exactly know what this is or how it happened. This alteration is in a perfect square in the middle of my rectangle. Also, there are a lot of small "dots" visible. The screen shows through it perfectly, so I know there is nothing wrong with the actual screen or LCD. Maybe the digitizer? The phone functions perfectly, touchscreen and all. Does anyone know what this is or how to fix it?
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If it isn't your screen protector, it is a "Newton Ring", a defect in the LCD. Send it in for warranty replacement.
I had the same issue with my TP2... I would be able to see the colors only under white light or under bright sunlight. I figured it might have sprung up after I dropped the fone. Luckily, mine was under warranty and I had the device replaced for no cost by TMo...you can go down that path or search for the LCD replacement for your fone
Okay guys answer this for me. I didn't buy the phone new, rather I traded my Iphone 3GS for it in or around January. I know the phone didn't come out until September 2009 (I believe). Can I still claim the warranty?
i got the exact same thing, and seeing how my phone is acting up now as soon as i fix it i guess i will be sending it up for a replacement. I thought it was just from the screen protector but i guess its more than that
dressanderc said:
Okay guys answer this for me. I didn't buy the phone new, rather I traded my Iphone 3GS for it in or around January. I know the phone didn't come out until September 2009 (I believe). Can I still claim the warranty?
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I got my phone in December.... just called into ATT yesterday to get a warranty exchange because the microphones on my phone stopped working. as long as you have only had it for a year it should be okay. Did you get it from AT&T or did you just trade a friend for it or something?
Either way, it will only take you about 5-10 minutes on the phone to find out if you can exchange it. Might be worth just taking the time to make the phone call to find out.
Ok, so my Tilt 2 just started doing this exact same thing. I called ATT and they said this voids the warranty. They also said if I go through with an exchange and htc feels that its out of warranty then they will charge my account 400+ dollars for the phone.
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Ok, so my Tilt 2 just started doing this exact same thing. I called ATT and they said this voids the warranty. They also said if I go through with an exchange and htc feels that its out of warranty then they will charge my account 400+ dollars for the phone.
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WHAT voids the warranty?
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WHAT voids the warranty?
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You know, the issue the thread is about. But I will share the rest of my story in my next post.
Alright, So I'd like to elaborate and share my experience with the "newton's rings" issue. Before via phone call, AT&T said that it was physical damage (even though I treated the device with care) thus voiding the warranty. They told me that if it was a common problem, it would not be a big deal, and then continued to claim that it wasn't a common problem even though I found numerous forums discussing the issue. After discussing the issue further with them, they directed me to a device care center where techs can look at the phone. Once I arrived, I showed the phone to a young lady with a very dry and cold personality (but that was fine) and she took one ultra quick look a the phone and said it was covered, even said that my screen would straight up go out soon because of it. She set up an overnight delivery of a new phone (she swears it's not refurbished) and I was on my way in less than a few minutes. I was baffled that I couldn't get this done over the phone and don't really understand why the employees at the device center seemed so much more knowledgeable than the WARRANTY customer care people I spoke with on the phone.
Overall, it wasn't a super awful experience, but I did have to jump through some unnecessary hoops to get it done. I hope people can learn from my experience today! Good luck!
AT&T replaced mine, but stated the cause was "stress" related. That's bull crap though, it just started doing it on its own. They wanted to claim it on my insurance, but after arguing with a supervisor, they shipped me out another one.
The story goes like this:
I have a Desire and today saw a local Ad where a guy sells a Htc Desire Z stuck at boot after upgrading. Thats the only info provided.
Now, the price is around 160 euros or 222 us dollars.
I have lots of experience with root/s-off from the Desire and anything with that shouldn't be a problem.
My questions are:
Is there a way to brick this phone?
Can it be somehow unbricked?
If the guy tried to update the phone to the latest one, can i root it then or downgrade it perhaps and root then?
Thank you very much whoever answers this.
Well hopefully some brighter folks than I can ellucidate whether it is possible to get out of a bootloop.
What I can offer however is my opinion on the purchase overall. $222USD is a good chunk of change. If there's a chance that it is not recoverable, I don't think it would be worth the gamble. Now if it were the nearly unbrickable Vibrant or something, I'd say go for it.
I bought my G2 in near mint condition for $275.
It all depends, Is it S-off? Does he have a custom recovery installed? Can you boot into Hboot and then into recovery(Clockworkmod Recovery)? If so then you probably can install a rom on the sdcard and flash them from recovery.
If its in a boot loop with S-on I would not touch it.
Boot loop with S-ON means it still has Nand protection which means you can't do shiz with it. I do have a little story though.
Bought a G1 off craigslist and shortly after the screen started acting wonky so I said what the hell and called Tmo. Explained the problem and hoped theyd have some pointers since the G1 was new and resources like this didn't exist at the time. They ended up being able to look up the phone and determined it still had warranty time left on the device so they exchanged it for me. Sometimes warranty carries over with phones. I'd call Tmo before I bought though and have them go ahead and send me a refurb then go buy the bootlooped one and send it back.
Supposedly he tried to install a different ROM which implies that he's rooted.
That should be fixable then, right?
Or is s-off really necessary for the Z?
UPDATE:
he just lowered the price to around 100 euros.
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Boot loop with S-ON means it still has Nand protection which means you can't do shiz with it. I do have a little story though.
Bought a G1 off craigslist and shortly after the screen started acting wonky so I said what the hell and called Tmo. Explained the problem and hoped theyd have some pointers since the G1 was new and resources like this didn't exist at the time. They ended up being able to look up the phone and determined it still had warranty time left on the device so they exchanged it for me. Sometimes warranty carries over with phones. I'd call Tmo before I bought though and have them go ahead and send me a refurb then go buy the bootlooped one and send it back.
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I actually just did something similar. I bought a used G2 that was in perfect physical working order but with physical blemishes etc. and was about 3months old. About a week later dust started to accumulate under the screen. Even though the phone was used and I was on a EM+ plan with no contract and I didnt purchase the phone from a T-mo store, they still replaced it for free. More of a statement about how great T-mo support is than anything, but I think its interesting that they will support the device even though its used.
Now anything more than this is quite borderline not very ethical depending on who you ask, but I wouldn't really feel like buying a bootlooped phone just to try and send it back to T-mo and claim you don't know what happened. If that was very possible then the guy that currently has the phone would probably have done that already...
Yeah, i bought it.
The problem is/are it won't boot or turn on at all.
I'll send it to the repair shop to see if anything can be done.
And guess what.
Do you remember when the HTC vision/g2/desire z got leaked?
This picture here
It turns out, it's the same phone
THE SAME PHONE, Look at the serial numberl
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Yeah, i bought it.
The problem is/are it won't boot or turn on at all.
I'll send it to the repair shop to see if anything can be done.
And guess what.
Do you remember when the HTC vision/g2/desire z got leaked?
This picture here
It turns out, it's the same phone
THE SAME PHONE, Look at the serial numberl
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PLEASE tell me you kept that. That would be like getting that first iphone that homeboy lost in the bar.
So I notice the screen lifting up on the bottom left corner of my phone, and I can feel it moving around when I push on the corners. It's starting to concern me, and well... it shouldn't be happening; I don't appreciate paying for something that seems like it's going to fall apart.
Apparently this is a common problem... which is weird since people give Samsung so much crap.
Anyhoo... I'm past my 30 days (they ran out at the beginning of the month, new Sprint customer as of early Feb '11) what would happen if I took this back to Sprint's store? Would they just give me a new one, or make me go through HTC?
Hardware version 0003.
They should give you a refurb, as you still have warranty for 1 year for hardware defect just like that. Take it to the store-unrooted and all rooting files removed, and you should be fine.
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They should give you a refurb, as you still have warranty for 1 year for hardware defect just like that. Take it to the store-unrooted and all rooting files removed, and you should be fine.
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Basically the only thing I'm concerned about is having to send my phone into HTC and having to wait to get one sent to me. You think they'll just switch it out in the store?
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Basically the only thing I'm concerned about is having to send my phone into HTC and having to wait to get one sent to me. You think they'll just switch it out in the store?
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Yea, they should just switch it out in the store. or worst case if they don't have one in stock, they'd order a refurb and you'd have it in a day or two, but you won't need to send it to HTC.
Maybe I'll just deal with it.
The problem I have is... I wouldn't accept a refurbished phone. It's just a pet peeve... I paid for a new phone, I want a new phone. I don't like the idea of buying a new one that's defective somehow and getting given a refurbished phone as a replacement. It might not bother some, but I'm just anal like that.
Then again... I haven't talked to Sprint about it, so maybe they would give me a new one.
EDIT: I'll un-root and flash back to stock tomorrow then take it to Sprint on Monday and see what happens.
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Maybe I'll just deal with it.
The problem I have is... I wouldn't accept a refurbished phone. It's just a pet peeve... I paid for a new phone, I want a new phone. I don't like the idea of buying a new one that's defective somehow and getting given a refurbished phone as a replacement. It might not bother some, but I'm just anal like that.
Then again... I haven't talked to Sprint about it, so maybe they would give me a new one.
EDIT: I'll un-root and flash back to stock tomorrow then take it to Sprint on Monday and see what happens.
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I've always had better luck with calling into sprint over the phone then dealing with the sprint store people
I got a HTC hero that was a referb, worried that the phone was trash I kept waiting for it to go bad. It never did, in fact I sold it on eBay some time later. Refurbs are hit and miss, you will know within a few days if its a keeper. If not raise hell and get another one!
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After flashing the stock google (yukju) roms on my galaxy nexus, everything went fine for a couple of months and now I am getting weird haywire issues with my touch screen. Without me touching anything, the phone will act like a part of my screen is being touched, it will not respond when I am indeed touching it at times, the screen will flicker back and forth and generally act strangely. Then for the other 70% of the time it is fine. I have re-flashed all stock roms, did a factory reset, and the problem persists.
Is anyone else having these problems?
any idea what to do next.
After contacting my provider, they said they cant help me because I had unlocked the phone. I have since relocked the phone so I might try calling back and seeing if it will fool them, but I doubt it. Now that I have re-locked the phone should I try to deal with Samsung?
Any help appreciated!
It sounds like a hardware issue. Most likely the touchscreen itself is bad. If you still have warranty or insurance coverage then bring it back to the store and tell them it is defective. By the way, NEVER mention that you have ever unlocked or rooted your phone.
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Thanks for the reply. Im worried that, like you say, it is a hardware issue because I bought it used, and therefore will probably have problems with warranty/insurance. My carrier has already said that they wont help me with it so I would have to go right to Samsung. Any tips on dealing with Samsung? I have already returned to stock and re-lock the phone and I never rooted it, I certainly wont say I did anything to it in any way. Anything else I should be aware of? Will they even help me out since I wasn't the one who bought the phone in the first place?
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Thanks for the reply. Im worried that, like you say, it is a hardware issue because I bought it used, and therefore will probably have problems with warranty/insurance. My carrier has already said that they wont help me with it so I would have to go right to Samsung. Any tips on dealing with Samsung? I have already returned to stock and re-lock the phone and I never rooted it, I certainly wont say I did anything to it in any way. Anything else I should be aware of? Will they even help me out since I wasn't the one who bought the phone in the first place?
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Although most manufacturers offer a 1 year warranty on hardware, I doubt they will honor it since you were not the original owner. Your next option is repairing it yourself. It took a look at prices on eBay and it looks like the digitizer (touchscreen) for a galaxy nexus goes for about $30 and the combination of digitizer and LCD screen go for about $150. I don't know how difficult it would be to separate the digitizer from the LCD on your phone, but $150 for the set is still better than buying a new phone.
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As has been said, it is probably a hardware issue - I had an HTC Desire S before my GNex and had the same issue with it, started all of a sudden. (The screen would go haywire as you said, almost as if a ghost was pushing buttons quickly - that's the best way I can describe it). Mine did not have warranty coverage because I had rooted and unlocked it but the HTC rep was helpful and said it happens sometimes because of moisture or humidity or some such thing and to replace the lcd/digitizer. Cost me a little ($110) but phone was as good as new after that, used it for six months before selling it and buying the GNex.
Last week I was taking some photos with my M8 and noticed that they were just absolutely awful. I know the M8 doesn't have the greatest smartphone camera out there, but these shots looked like they were being taken through a cloud. Naturally I called HTC and explained the problem to them. They told me that I could do an exchange if I paid $19 for the shipping to and from them. I agreed and shipped my phone out a few days ago. Today I received an email telling me that my phone is out of warranty and if I want it fixed I have to pay $290. As soon as I read that I realized that I had forgotten to return my phone from "S-Off" to "S-On" before sending it. After Googling if that was the issue, I read that HTC usually doesn't care if you're S-On or S-Off since they occasionally ship devices out with S-Off on accident (I'm not sure if this is true, though). So I'm not sure what else it could be. I called again, made sure they knew I had the Developer Edition, and the representative told me to call back in a couple days and they'd be able to explain everything to me. Now I'm extremely worried that I'm either going to have to pay $290 or just deal with the issue for the remainder of the time I have with the device.
Does anyone have any experience with the HTC warranty department that can tell me what might be going on and how to deal with them in the event that this doesn't go my way? Thank you!
It is caused by the coating on the camera. There had been a lot of threads about the issue. I have not had that problem yet on my phone but if it does show up, it is good to know there is no need to panic because it is just a simple fix.
Normally, HTC reserves the right to void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader. But seeing as the DE comes with the bootloader unlocked, its never been clear to me how the warranty works in that case, I'd be curious to hear how they respond.
And yes, as the previous response states, the "cloudy" photos is an issue with the camera glass or coating being easily scratched, which is easily fixed by polishing with toothpaste, Turtle Wax, etc.
****. I just sent back my old one and forgot to s-on. I hope it doesn't happen with me. I'll have them send it back before I pay them any more money. I've had problems with both my replacement and original. I'd like to switch to a whole new phone at this point.
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****. I just sent back my old one and forgot to s-on. I hope it doesn't happen with me. I'll have them send it back before I pay them any more money. I've had problems with both my replacement and original. I'd like to switch to a whole new phone at this point.
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Unless its a Dev Edition like the OP, S-on or off doesn't matter if you unlocked the bootloader. They have a record of your IMEI when you unlocked.
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Unless its a Dev Edition like the OP, S-on or off doesn't matter if you unlocked the bootloader. They have a record of your IMEI when you unlocked.
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Well I contacted HTC and they said warranty is voided when s-off. Trying to see what they can do since I can't afford the full price of this phone. Tbh I would go back to my s4 and send both these phones back. I'll try to keep my progress updated here. The replacement I got is also defective in speakerphone during calls and GPS locking. I pray they allow me to send this replacement back and not have to pay an insane amount for this.