10-3-21: As of late September 2021, Google has denied login access to devices older than Android 3 (Honeycomb). That pretty much puts the kibosh on the presence of GApps on the NST/G. You get login errors for existing accounts every time you connect to WiFi. Even Maps misbehaves. If you have a pre-GApps backup you can get rid of GApps easily. If not...I'll be working on a removal strategy and will post it in this thread when I get it done. I have removed all the linked downloads and instructional material from this post. No point encouraging people to mess us their devices. It really is over.
Removing GApps from your NST/G
The easiest way to do this, as mentioned above, is to revert to a pre-GApps backup. If you have one that does not mean you would be happy to go back there because a lot may have been done since then. That is my case, so here's a guide to manual removal. You'll need a good file manager with root access (ES File Explorer is what I used) and you may want sqlite, although I don't think it is absolutely needed. More on that later.
1. Navigate to /system/app. Remove this entire list of apks (you may not have all of them, but remove those you do). If your file manager allows you to multi-select files for an operation, I encourage you to do so. Otherwise, at least one of the removals is likely to cause a soft reboot.
GoogleApps
GoogleBackupTransport (may cause soft reboot)
GoogleCheckin
GooglePartnerSetup
GoogleSettingsProvider
GoogleSubscriberFeedsProvider
gtalkservice
Maps
NetworkLocation
SetupWizard
Street
Vending
2. Navigate to /system/framework and remove:
com.google.android.gtalkservice.jar
com.google.android.datamessaging.jar
(you can also remove the jar file related to Maps, if you wish, but this is one of the files needed to run any of the Tasker-generated apps I have made, so I left it. It does nothing if you leave it there, but Tasker--or a "kid" app--always looks for it and will not install without it.)
3. Navigate to to /system/etc/permissions and remove:
com.google.android.gtalkservice.xml
com.google.android.datamessaging.xml
(same deal as above on the xml file related to Maps)
4. Navigate to /data/system/sync. Inspect the file "accounts.xml". It's just plain text, so try to do this on your device but otherwise copy it out to your PC to have a look at it. It should be "empty", looking like this:
Code:
<?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8' standalone='yes' ?>
If there's anything else there, delete it until your file looks like above. Be sure to save any changes.
Delete "pending.bin" if it exists.
[Wishing you just reverted to a pre-Gapps backup yet?]
5. Navigate to /data/data and remove all the folders listed. Again, you may not have every one of these, but remove those you do. Note, if you installed either Maps or Street as user apps, these can just be uninstalled with the App Manager.
com.android.setupwizard
com.android.vending
com.google.android.apps.gtalkservice
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.apps.backup
com.google.android.apps.gm
com.google.android.apps.googleapps
com.google.android.apps.location
com.google.android.apps.partnersetup
com.google.android.apps.providers.gmail
com.google.android.apps.providers.settings
com.google.android.apps.providers.subscribedfeeds
com.google.android.apps.servercheckin
com.google.android.street
6. Navigate to /data/dalvik-cache and remove all the files there corresponding to ALL of the apks and jars you removed in steps 1 and 2.
7. Reboot.
After I had done all of this I was surprised to see zero-byte "ghosts" in the App Manager for the system apps I had removed (and in the user app section!). So I went through and "uninstalled" them all. You cannot, in case you are wondering, just change the filter on the App Manager so you can see the system apps and uninstall them that way. There is no "uninstall" option for system apps.
Optional
When GApps was installed, patched copies of two files: services.jar and framework.jar were copied onto the device (/system/framework). These were patched mainly to establish device ID's and allow the SetupWizard to work. These minor changes seem to have no other effects. You may find that during GApps installation the original files were renamed as "service.jar.gappsorig" or similar. If that's the case, you could delete the patched ones and rename the old "gappsorig" ones. If you do this, you should delete the entries in the dalvik-cache as well and reboot.
Finally, accounts.db still holds information about whatever Google accounts you had on the device. Again, this probably is not really an issue. If you want to remove these entries, you will need a copy of sqlite3. Check /system/bin. If you have it, you're good to go. Otherwise, you need to download a copy, move it into /system/bin, set permissions to rwx r-x r-x and reboot. Sqlite is accessed within the adb shell. So establish an adb connection with your device (USB or WiFi, doesn't matter) and execute the following:
adb shell
sqlite3 /data/system/accounts.db "DELETE from accounts WHERE name LIKE [email protected];"
.q
reboot
Of course you substitute your account for "myacct".
Mea culpa
When I put together the update package for NTGAppsAttack I just assumed that the patched jars for FW 1.2.1 (framework.jar and services.jar) would be the same for FW 1.2.2. And, in fact, I've not had any issues yet.
But in tracking down an, as it now turns out, unrelated issue, I had cause to look more closely at the jars from the two firmwares. They are close, but not identical. This made me a little nervous because I don't want to mess up peoples' devices
So, with guidance from @Renate NST I have patched the jars from FW 1.2.2. These can now be found at the attachment section of the first post in this thread.
The good news is that you don't need to reinstall GApps. You can just "hot swap" these files:
Code:
adb push framework.jar /system/framework/
adb push services.jar /system/framework/
After I had done that I deleted the dalvik-cache files for the same two jars (found in /data/dalvik-cache near the end of the listings), and then completely shut down. Boot on powering up is alarmingly slow, but it does happen and then everything is back to normal.
As always, you might want to make a back-up first if doing this makes you a little nervous. Or, you could just ignore the whole thing. It may not matter.
Changes added to first post.
nmyshkin said:
It's ironic that I picked up this project since I've been posting about the death of GApps for the NST/G and telling people who ask that calendars, contacts, etc., won't sync--never mind the loss of the old Market. Back in 2013 when @straygecko brought GApps to the NST/G in a nice, neat package minus the hand-waving of previous schemes it was a great thing. But time and Google have been unkind to the package.
I thought about the issue only a little, although each time someone asked about some feature or described some ill-fated attempt to sign in I wondered a little what they were experiencing, unwilling to sacrifice my installation to find out. Then I got my second NST.
NTGAppsAttack is back.
Well, maybe it should be called NTGAppsSkirmish. In my wanderings I was lucky to come across an old CM5 ROM as well as several sets of GApps for the HTC "Passion" device. I spent a lot of time reading in the Nook Color forum (Eclair was the initial OS) and this forum. I tried a LOT of things. Some worked. Some didn't.
What works
Upsync (from the device to Google) for Contacts and Calendar (and, of course, Gmail)
Downsync (from Google to the device) for Contacts and Calendar (and Gmail)
Network location
Maps and Street
Potentially other apps that work with Google account sync and/or use NetworkLocation
What doesn't work
The stock contacts app (yes, I found one--finally)
Autocompletion of email addresses in ANY mail client I tried (Gmail, K-9, stock)
Market
Google Books
Google Drive
Just about everything else
What can be worked around
Go Contacts EX 1.0 works fine as a contacts replacement but only for the principal Google account.
Yalp Store makes an excellent replacement for Market (really, it's better).
Edit: Yalp Store appears dead as of June 2019. Word has it the developer has abandoned the app.
The stock calendar is really pitiful. Hard to believe anyone ever thought that would be useful. aCalendar works and looks great.
How to update NTGappsAttack
The biggest hurdle seems to be getting the custom addon installed properly on the NookManager card. Lots of questions about this in the original thread. I have to say it was not clear to me as a noob years back and even when I recently returned to it I had to scratch my head a bit. So here's what to do:
1. Download NTGappsAttack.zip from the original thread.
2. Insert your prepared NookManager card into the card reader slot of your PC.
3. Unzip the NTGappsAttack file with the destination being the root of the NookManager card.
(In other words, don't copy the zip file to the card, don't unzip to your PC and copy the result to the card. Don't do anything except let your PC unzip the file and dump the contents onto the NookManager card without your intervention. This allows the folders/files to merge on the card and sets things up where they belong.)
Once the original NTGappsAttack is installed onto the NookManager card, you can update the GApps files:
1. Download the zip attached below which contains additional/replacement/optional GApps.
2. Place the NookManager card in the card reader slot of your PC.
3. Remove the following GApps from custom/files/NTGAppsAttack/gapps/system/app:
--Calendar
--GenieWidget
--Gmail
--GmailProvider
--MarketUpdate
--Talk
--TalkProvider
4. Replace/add the following apps from the zip file I have provided (the ones marked with * are optional)
--Gmail
--GmailProvider
--Maps*
--NetworkLocation*
--Street*
Of course, Calculator in the original package is also "optional".
If you are installing GApps on a FW 1.2.1 system, the patched jars that came with the package are fine. However, if you have previously patched your framework.jar for full spectrum audio recording via USB Audio, the patched jar from GApps will overwrite your file. To address this, I have attached below a copy of framework.jar with both patches. You can copy this into custom/files/NTGAppsAttack/1.2/system/framework, overwriting the file already present.
If you are installing GApps on a FW 1.2.2 system, the patched jars for FW 1.2.1 that came with the package are similar but not identical to the jars from FW 1.2.2 (especially framework.jar). I initially used these old files on a FW 1.2.2 system with no problems, but as I have prepared a set of patched files for FW 1.2.2, you might as well replace the ones on the card with the ones provided in the zip file below. Copy them into custom/files/NTGAppsAttack/1.2/system/framework, overwriting the files already present. The framework.jar in the zip is also patched for audio recording. If you never use USB Audio, it doesn't matter, but if you decide to someday, it will save you a step.
Installing NTGAppsAttack and signing in
BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!!!!
DID YOU MAKE A BACKUP?!
1. Start WiFi
2. Shut down NST/G
3. Insert NookManager card with NTGAppsAttack
4. Power on NST/G
5. No to Wireless
6. More
7. Custom
8. Install NTGappsAttack
9. Back
10. Back
11. Exit
12. Wait for reboot (long time...so long it goes to screensaver...gave me the heebie-jeebies the first time...)
13. If Wifi does not start, start it, being careful not to touch rest of screen.
14. Touch Android
15. Begin
16. Next
17. Skip (no sign-in or new accounts)
18. Google Location options: YOU MUST CHECK BOTH
19. Next (Setup closes)
21. Open Gmail
22. Using Menu button access "Accounts"
23. Add account--the primary Google account you want to use for the device
24. Sign-in
25. Gmail closes and you may catch "signed-in" flashing by at the top of the screen; sync arrows show in status bar
26. If you have a second (or more) account to add, sign in. You'll see the various sync options. Check/uncheck the ones you want. If something fails to sync, uncheck it and check it again until it syncs. (Anytime you want to check an account for sync options, just add a "new" account but make it the same one. It won't add again, but you'll see the sync options. Make sure all you want have synced. Might as well check the initial account you started with while you're there. Make sure everything you want synced.)
27. Exit Gmail.
*Ignore the Market app. I left it in because during my testing I noticed the system wondering about it (logcat) when I had left it out. So it's there, but just to keep the system mollified.*
Getting things working
Contacts
Install the Go Contacts Ex 1.0 app I have attached below. It's the only thing I could find that syncs in both directions and doesn't crash. However, stay away from the Backup and Recovery/Account Sync settings. These will cause a reboot because of the tight security around accounts.db that B&N built into the device. Gmail is the only way into those settings.
If you enter a new contact or edit one on the device, upsync is almost immediate. Downsync is another matter. This is the most reluctant of the apps to sync and the only one that does not have a manual sync option. A solution under "Sync" below.
Calendar
I'm not a calendar user myself, so I can only go on what is pleasing to my eyes and what seems to behave logically. I think aCalendar is good (attached below). It will pick up the calendar from your primary account as well as holidays, etc. It also seems to want to sync contacts although I'm not sure what the calendar wants with those. Like Go Contacts, upsync of events you generate on the device seems to be nearly instantaneous (and "silent"--no sync arrows). Unlike Go Contacts, there is a manual sync option if you're in a hurry.
Gmail
Settings for Gmail are pretty much like those of the stock email app, although there is no "check mail" frequency setting since Gmail is supposed to sync at random when mail becomes known to the server. Supposed to... It has a manual sync ("refresh") option. You can set a signature for each account. You can decide which mail folders are synced and how many days worth of mail is synced. Unlike the version in the original GApps package, this one appears to be OK, continuing to send mail reliably.
Reading through the Nook Color forum it is clear that autocomplete of email addresses in the To: field bedeviled the early hackers. They suggested a lot of kludges, none of which worked on the NST. With FW 1.2.2 there is a teasing grey bar that appears when you type two or three letters of an email address that is in the contacts, but nothing happens when you tap on the bar. With FW 1.2.1 there is no grey bar. So that's a project for someone. I used up my spare little grey cells on this particular issue. You can, of course, open your contacts and choose one to send mail to.
Maps and Street
When I first discovered a NetworkLocation app in one of the GApps packages I thought "oh, that will never work". There was also a Maps app so I just put them into one of my test batches and...it worked! That's actually pretty amazing. The location accuracy is perhaps not the best (I've gotten anywhere from 30 to 100 m reported), but it's still pretty crazy. The first Maps I tried was nice in that the streets actually had names, unlike the version of Maps you can still get for Android 2.1 from the Yalp Store. But this version was so old that Places had not yet been integrated. Also missing was the ability to pre-cache map areas for off-line use. So I went searching.
I finally came up with a good version with visible street names, Places, and a Labs option for pre-caching (and these don't expire, unlike in the current PlayStore Maps version). Directions also work.
The first Street app I had didn't run at all and I had pretty much given up--I mean, it's pretty silly--until I came across one more package and decided, what the heck? Sure enough, it actually worked.
Edit: some people have expressed frustration with Street, indicating that it is often greyed-out or simply gives a black screen. I recently discovered two things: 1) it does not have to be installed as a system app, i.e., you can install as a user app, and 2) it never fails to show starred (favorited--is that a word?!) places. I'm not sure whether that is intentional or just the vagaries of all these disparate GApps trying to work together, but if you add a place as a favorite and then call it up from your favorites list, Street will not be greyed-out and will actually show what you want to see. Who knew?
Maps can be pretty CPU hungry. It likes to annoy with messages like "Application Maps is having a hissy fit. Do you want to wait or force close?" (paraphrase ). I have a "solution" that, while somewhat draconian, works well: turn it off when not using it. I've written a little toggle app that alternately disables and enables/launches Maps. So you need to remember to tap the icon again when you are finished with Maps, but if you can get into the habit you will have the use of Maps without the annoyance of Maps. Attached below, "Google Maps". Use this to launch Maps (which may in fact disappear from your app drawer when disabled, but will return when enabled).
Sync
Now we get to the make-or-break part. Upsync from contacts, calendar and Gmail (sending) works like it should. It's "silent" (no arrows) and appears to be nearly immediate. Downsync is reluctant, at best. I've seen it happen on its own, perhaps twice in one day, but not always. The app Quick Sync (attached below) is a one-touch app with no settings that forces a manual sync of all accounts it finds on the device. I tried a variety of other apps (Synker is popular) but none worked as reliably as Quick Sync. Still, it's kind of lame, right? Wouldn't it be better if the NST/G behaved like the big boy's (and girl's) toys and did a quick sync when Wifi started? Yes!
I've made two apps to address this. Download and install one or the other. The attached app WiFiSync runs the Quick Settings dialog just like normal but adds an auto-run of Quick Sync after an appropriate pause. Use NookTouch ModManager to assign the app to "Clock" (that's the absolute last entry of the various buttons that can be reassigned). This generally updates everything although occasionally contacts are sulky and you may need to tap on the Quick Sync app and give it another go, but typically not.
The WiFiMenu_Sync is a special edition of my WiFi Menu app and functions as described in the link but also does an auto-run of Quick Sync. Also best when assigned to the "Clock" using NTMM.
*Even if you decide later not to use it, you should install and run WiFiSync or WiFiMenu_Sync at least once, if only by tapping on the icon. On first run it sets the AutoSync flag just in case it didn't get done in all the previous to-do. There's no other way to access this setting.*
Edit: one more option, my Quick Tiles app includes a WiFi/sync option.
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I am going to use this in my office for the calendar feature to access my appointments quickly via the awesome, low energy, easy on the eyes e-ink of the nook. Thanks so much for everything you do!
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@nmyshkin If I want to keep the stock calendar app, will that cause any problems? If I don't like it, can I remove it without issues?
ALinkToTao said:
If I want to keep the stock calendar app, will that cause any problems? If I don't like it, can I remove it without issues?
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You can try out the stock calendar app without any issues. As long as the calendar sync app is enabled, it should work OK. If you decide against it later, simply remove the app from /system/app and reboot. For complete cleanup, also delete the stock app folder from /data/data/app and also the cache for the app from /data/dalvik-cache
Thanks, man.
@nmyshkin I've been playing with this, and it's working really well for my purposes. Paired with USB host and a keyboard, it's a great energy efficient and distraction resistant tool for the office. The only issues I've seen so far are these:
1. I just installed the GoContacts app. (I didn't install it at the very beginning). For right now, it doesn't seem to want to sync. I tried forcing sync with your app. I feel like it will eventually work. Or perhaps maybe I should have installed it at the very beginning of this process?
2. The calendar works great-mostly. I use it in my office to quickly see my schedule at-a-glance for patients that are coming in. For some reason, it syncs 80 to 90% of the calendar entries from my google calendar, but not all of them. There will be holes in my schedule that aren't actually there. Every week there are often entries of 35 or more appointments. Perhaps there is a limit as to how much can be synced at once. The stock calendar app seems to work the best for my purposes. I have the aCalendar app as a back up as its features are different and still useful.
Thanks again for all the work you did on it. I'm definitely enjoying the benefits of it.
ALinkToTao said:
@nmyshkin I've been playing with this, and it's working really well for my purposes. Paired with USB host and a keyboard, it's a great energy efficient and distraction resistant tool for the office. The only issues I've seen so far are these:
1. I just installed the GoContacts app. (I didn't install it at the very beginning). For right now, it doesn't seem to want to sync. I tried forcing sync with your app. I feel like it will eventually work. Or perhaps maybe I should have installed it at the very beginning of this process?
2. The calendar works great-mostly. I use it in my office to quickly see my schedule at-a-glance for patients that are coming in. For some reason, it syncs 80 to 90% of the calendar entries from my google calendar, but not all of them. There will be holes in my schedule that aren't actually there. Every week there are often entries of 35 or more appointments. Perhaps there is a limit as to how much can be synced at once. The stock calendar app seems to work the best for my purposes. I have the aCalendar app as a back up as its features are different and still useful.
Thanks again for all the work you did on it. I'm definitely enjoying the benefits of it.
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I'm afraid I'm not going to be of much help here. For me, contacts and calendar were an exercise to see if I could get things to work, given Google's abandonment of Android 2.1. I don't really use either, although I occasionally will use contacts to start up an email address I can't recall.
First, let me remind you that Go Contacts only will sync with contacts from the principal device account (so the first Google account you logged into GMail with). I just created a fake contact on my PC this morning as well as a fake calendar entry. Neither of them was picked up by just a simple wi-fi connection. Both were immediately picked up with a tap on QuickSync. I can't speak to the stock calendar app. Besides finding it difficult to read, I vaguely recall other issues. There were so many things to test, it's all pretty much magic now. So I settled on acalendar which I had seen someone recommend and found it to work as far as my testing went. Its manual "synchronize" function also brought up the new calendar event without the use of QuickSync.
As to multiple events, well I just didn't try whole bunches, so I just don't know.
Does Go Contacts not bring up anything? For settings, I have only Google accounts showing, but if you have contacts without phone numbers you'll need to include that also or you won't see any. I'm not sure about the "phone contacts" setting. Mine is unchecked. You just want to stay away from most of the other settings. Generally when I have installed the app it's already got all the contacts picked up by the time I get around to looking at it. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. The whole GApps thing is pretty weird in that anything works at all, but it's not of much use if it's not consistent for you.
nmyshkin said:
I'm afraid I'm not going to be of much help here. For me, contacts and calendar were an exercise to see if I could get things to work, given Google's abandonment of Android 2.1. I don't really use either, although I occasionally will use contacts to start up an email address I can't recall.
First, let me remind you that Go Contacts only will sync with contacts from the principal device account (so the first Google account you logged into GMail with). I just created a fake contact on my PC this morning as well as a fake calendar entry. Neither of them was picked up by just a simple wi-fi connection. Both were immediately picked up with a tap on QuickSync. I can't speak to the stock calendar app. Besides finding it difficult to read, I vaguely recall other issues. There were so many things to test, it's all pretty much magic now. So I settled on acalendar which I had seen someone recommend and found it to work as far as my testing went. Its manual "synchronize" function also brought up the new calendar event without the use of QuickSync.
As to multiple events, well I just didn't try whole bunches, so I just don't know.
Does Go Contacts not bring up anything? For settings, I have only Google accounts showing, but if you have contacts without phone numbers you'll need to include that also or you won't see any. I'm not sure about the "phone contacts" setting. Mine is unchecked. You just want to stay away from most of the other settings. Generally when I have installed the app it's already got all the contacts picked up by the time I get around to looking at it. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. The whole GApps thing is pretty weird in that anything works at all, but it's not of much use if it's not consistent for you.
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Thanks, I tried changing it to Google only, and it still isn't syncing. No problem, man. I really appreciate it. I'm seeing which functions are working smoothly and keeping those only.
Is there any version of Google books with syncing that works?
And also gDrive?
And does it make a difference if it's UK version or US version?
Thanks
frittahubris said:
Is there any version of Google books with syncing that works?
And also gDrive?
And does it make a difference if it's UK version or US version?
Thanks
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No, and no, and no. Sorry.
That's a shame. Are there any eReader apps that have syncing that work with this mod? Otherwise I don't see much use for this unless it's your only reading device.
frittahubris said:
That's a shame. Are there any eReader apps that have syncing that work with this mod? Otherwise I don't see much use for this unless it's your only reading device.
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I know that FBReader can use your Google Drive to sync books. I have tried it recently and it works. It's all handled within the reader app so you don't actually need a functioning Google Drive app on the device. I believe that AlReader also has this function.
Edit: here are instructions that worked for me with FBReader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3957311
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Hey guys,
Justa few quick questions ...
Is there an application or something that will log all the apps I have downloaded via my account and list them for me, so when I do a backup I knwo what I had before?
Is there an app to list the above AND download the latest versions without me having to manually do anything (Shashimi for Android).
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
I sue S2U2, I like the Android lock screen BUT I like being able to view my texts/emails without unlocking the device, what options do I have?
Lastly, is there an app to automatically backup your text on a weekly basis and email it to your gmail as an archive? I want it to also ignore the previous week's text.
Am I asking too much L.o.L.?
O and O said:
Hey guys,
Justa few quick questions ...
Is there an application or something that will log all the apps I have downloaded via my account and list them for me, so when I do a backup I knwo what I had before?
Is there an app to list the above AND download the latest versions without me having to manually do anything (Shashimi for Android).
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
I sue S2U2, I like the Android lock screen BUT I like being able to view my texts/emails without unlocking the device, what options do I have?
Lastly, is there an app to automatically backup your text on a weekly basis and email it to your gmail as an archive? I want it to also ignore the previous week's text.
Am I asking too much L.o.L.?
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I don't have an Android phone yet ...and won't do until 7/8/9-April... but playing with my wife's Hero this is what I know...
You seem to have to create a level of Google account in orpder to purchase from Android Market and logging into your Google Account and going to Android Market will bring up a list of your previously downloaded apps.
I haven't found a stand alone app for this but purchasing your apps through AppBrain.com and using their AppBrain app seems to do what your asking. AppBrain doesn't seem to list all apps though - definitely missing UK specific apps such as Beebplayer.
I've had WinMo phones for the past 8 years and never heard of a facility to do this - if there is one I'd be chuffed to hear about it myself.
Dunno - someone else will have to answer this one I'm afraid
I believe that most backup apps will do a scheduled backup - Sprite Backup definitely does but to the SD Card only (no automailer), but WRT ignoring previously backed up messages I've not heard of this feature in any backup app.
I hope this helps to some extent.
Is there an application or something that will log all the apps I have downloaded via my account and list them for me, so when I do a backup I know what I had before?
aTrackDog / AppBrain
Is there an app to list the above AND download the latest versions without me having to manually do anything (Shashimi for Android).
AppBrain allows you to create lists on their site, so when you change phones or wipe it, you can tell it to reinstall the whole list. I did that when I moved from G1 to Desire -- worked like a charm.
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
You should ask that in TyTN forum
I sue S2U2, I like the Android lock screen BUT I like being able to view my texts/emails without unlocking the device, what options do I have?
Flyscreen
Lastly, is there an app to automatically backup your text on a weekly basis and email it to your gmail as an archive? I want it to also ignore the previous week's text.
SMS backup
P.S. sorry, I was lazy and did not include links -- google is your friend
O and O said:
Hey guys,
Justa few quick questions ...
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
Am I asking too much L.o.L.?
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You can store all your text messages online with Microsoft My Phone or else store them on your PC.
See also this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4713257&postcount=2
FabianNL said:
You can store all your text messages online with Microsoft My Phone or else store them on your PC.
See also this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4713257&postcount=2
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THANKS ALL!
Will have a look at this FabianNL as if I can export to individual files then I will be happy. To be honest it isn't a big deal .
Been playing with my Desire for a while, I can see the appeal of Android it's quick, big buttons, keyboard isn't back considering I'm coming from Tytn (as well as a Touch HD but that was BAD).
My next step is ... what programs should I "replace"? I'm refering to applications like mail, text/messages, etc the build in ones.
I am though over the moon with the device the text input ROCKS! I do have a list of applications I need suggestions on though ... I'm used to the following on Windows Phone so I need an Android variation ...
G-Alarm - A Comprehensive alarm application
G-Profile - easily change my profiles from night, work, home, etc, this would be great as a widget
Task Facade - A general task manager that will show all my running applications and let me close/switch
Wake On Text/Email/etc - As it says ... and stay awake until message has been read!
Lock Without using Power button - easy ...
That's about it for now
I use Klaxon for my alarms.
SMS Popup will turn on the screen when you get text messages (not sure if there is similar for emails) and can give reminders untill it's read.
As far as profiles, then would HTC's Scenes not do the trick? Failing this Locale can automagically turn on and off services and silent/loud the ringer based on various criteria like time and location.
You can easily switch to recent apps by pressing and holding the home key
And there are loads of Task Managers on the market for killing running apps
What does sense have for managing profiles?
Hi,
I would like replace my TyTn II to HTC Desire but Im not shure if I will be happy with Desire(Android)...
Main things which wory me are:
1.)Synchronization with PC with USB cable. I DON'T want and will not sync with google account. All I need is same automatic sync line with activesync. I need sync Contacts, Calendar, Emails(Configure which folders), Task's, Notes. Sync will be done with MS Outlook 2007/2010.
2.)Is possible set more than one email account? I need 3x pop3/smtp email accounts.
3.)Is possible disable threaded SMS/MMS? I realy hate this function.
4.)Is there any app which allow connet to windows remote desktop(RDP and not any 3rd party VNC or other)?
5.)Is there some app/pack which can work with word, excel, power point files?
6.)Does included browser support certificates? I know that opera mobile on WinMo do not support it, so I can't manage cPanel server, make payments(bank)...
I think that this is enought for start
Thanks for any help and answers.
Best regards, _Dejan_
Got this yesterday after the T-Mob udapte. Its in Settings/Accounts & Sync. I cant find any widget or program for this 'MyPhonebook'. How do you use it?
I also wanna know, tried to do anything wit it yesterday but nothing works no idea what's it for
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Found it. T-Mobile has a free service that automatically backs up all contacts to a website - where they can be recovered if phone is lost or stolen.
Edit: Tried to activate it on T-mobile website... but HTC Desire is not on the list available for this service. Will it be activated in future... will ask next time I call customer service... :/
So I just rang up T-Mobile about this - typically useless response saying "we don't support this" and "you'll need to contact HTC". Now I could be wrong here, but isn't this T-Mobile functionality that they rolled out to us in their last update? Maybe this will work on Froyo?
Anyone have anymore info on this before I send T-Mobile a rude email?
...anyone know if this will be working soon? Thanks
I'd like to know how to get rid of this. I am so sick of the way this phone handles contact management.
These are the files you have to remove I think.
[MyPhonebook]
/system/app/SyncMLClient.apk
/system/app/SyncMLClient.odex
[SyncMLProvider]
/system/app/SyncMLProvider.apk
/system/app/SyncMLProvider.odex
[com.android.syncml.service]
/system/app/SyncMLService.apk
/system/app/SyncMLService.odex
[com.android.syncml.shared]
/system/framework/com.android.syncml.shared.jar
/system/framework/com.android.syncml.shared.odex
[permissions file]
/system/etc/permissions/com.android.syncml.shared.xml
Hi,
I'm using T-Mobile but unfortunately on my non-branded HTC Desire Z the Software is not installed. Does anyone have an APK for this App?
Or can anyone recommend a sync/backup tool to save contacs (important: I'm using the field "second name" and some sync-tools don't copy this field)
Greetings
Heiko
What is wrong with the std. sync of all your google contacts? Have worked flawlessly for me since day 1, and every time i try out a new rom they are downloaded as soon as i enter my google account..
There is nothing wrong with Google-Sync, but maybe call me paranoid, but I don't want to have my contacts (including their mail-adresses) stored by Google.
It is known that GoogleMail scans the Mails to show ads.
I don't want Google to scan my Adress-Book for Mail-Adressens of my friends. Sure, they state they won't do it, but you can't be sure......
Using a phone-provider like T-Mobile is also risky, but I trust them more than Google concerning data-privacy.
Heiko
Hey HHLieber, I extracted/deodexed the apks of MyPhonebook from my T-Mob branded stock (Desire) for v2.1 and v2.2.1 (both tested with MoDaCo ROM r8/r9).
Could not say if syncing is possible, because I'm using Vodafone. If you want these apks, let me know it.
Another idea with syncing is an own funambol (SyncML) server (also tested - SyncML stores a complete vcard in database).
But if you use a "Desire Z" with Stock ROM, are you able to store more information than first name and family name? Because I've never seen a HTC Stock ROM with this possibility (contact type "Phone" - HTC Desire/HD/S, HTC Wildfire/S). Also I couldn't set a type of mail address like "private" or "work".
Hi cxp_,
I just checked my Contact-List and you are correct:
The Name is listed as Surname, Firstname Secondname.
But if I click on edit, I don't see the field for secondname nor can I edit the name as it is stated on the edit-view as Firstname Surname.
Strange....
I achieved this construct by uploading the contacts from Outlook to my Google-Account, then exported it as VCF-File and imported it to my Desire.
It was a great battle, but I have to use the Second-Name-Field.
Can you copy me the APK-File?
We tried it yesterday using MyPhoneExplorer. A Collegue has a T-Mobile-branded Desire, downloaded the APK via MyPhoneExplorer and copied me the file. Unfortunately something went wrong since I cant install it on my phone - nor can't another collegue using an unbranded Desire
CU
Heiko
Thats the problem of HTC. They disabled some usefull contact information fields in their framework. I don't know why, but it is totally stupid. I have the same problems, storing all contact information in one contact type (without using "google"). Syncing with funambol or even vcard export/import will not bring back all contact information. For a smartphone, very disappointing.
I talked to htc support in germany, first answer was a standard reply from faq or so that it is possible, second answer from an engineer was "ok, your're right...not possible but i forward this idea, perhaps an update will fix that".
So, even the new devices from htc have this "bug/problem with phone contacts". Some weeks ago, I flashed a No-Sense Rom (originally from nexus one) to my desire with the result, that all fields were available. So, it must be a restriction of htc.
Your problem with branded rom was, that the apk files (used for MyPhonebook) are deodexed. So you have not only the apk file, but also a .dex file. To transfer it to another phone, you have to merge them with the use of some tools an the framework files. And also you need some other files.
I attached MyPhonebook for Android 2.1 (Eclair) and 2.2.1 (Froyo). (Structure from root directory)
cu
Sebastian
Gosh! You're right.
Just checked it with a collegues phone: Samsung Something.
He has second name and so on.....
Hmm.... Can't you disable HTC Sense? On Windows Phone, Sense was just an add-on. I'm not so amused concerning the idea of re-flashing my phone.
Heiko
Without HTC Sense, you can't use any of htc apps (contact, calendar, messages..etc.). It is possible to remove Sense, but you will need the standard android apps.
The "No-Sense" version of MoDaCo comes with the standard apps and default framework. In "Sense" version you could also include standard apps beside htc apps, but this wouldn't help. In my opinion, the modified framework is major problem. Even with default android apps, I got the restricted version of contact.
So, I think without reflashing your phone, you wouldn't be able to add more information to your contacts. Funambol syncing and MyPhonebook are no solutions for you.
In my case, I only needed the detailed mail information and with MyPhonebook I can do this. But also syncing is a problem for me (Funambol).
I think, it's a problem of using vcard v2.1 for export/import and sync. Tested it with one contact (containing all possible information), only ~75% was restored.
Shame on HTC, In my case I'm not sure. Living with that disadvantage or selling phone and buy a LG or Samsung (rootable). Or a second trouble when buying new phone in the future and transfer contacts (with losing information)
Face it, with every new phone, you have to adapt to the functions of the new phone.
I used Windows Phone for many years, beginning with a non-touch-phone and then moving onward using Windows Phone 6.1 and later 6.5, always with HTC-Devices.
Windows Phone 7 is no alternative for me, since it looks like a blame copy of iPhone OS (only MS-Approved Apps, no access to the file-system, use of Zune....).
Since the App-Support for WM6.5 is vanishing, I had to change.
Android looked like a good alternative. And HTC-Devices weren't a bad idea either in the past.
Maybe you are right and the next phone won't be from HTC.....
You're right. HTC devices aren't bad and the update periods are quicker than from other manufacturer.
For you, reflashing with No-Sense Rom is an idea and the flashing process is not a big deal.
I consider about "living with the fact of sync problems", "reflashing with no-sense rom and the lost of nice sense apps" or "sell old one and buy something new".
Since my phone is up and running, I guess I will live with the crippled contact-fields.
Another Idea: Am I right that Android uses several Contact-Databases which are somehow merged? Thus would it be possible to create a new contact-database with the wanted field and then merge this new DB with the already existing contact-list?
P.S. I tried to copy your Phonebook-Files to my phone but had no success. Do I have to root it bevore copying the files?
No that's not right and wouldn't be usefull. (but thats not the problem)
Android uses one SQLite database called contacts2.db (before v2.1 - filename was contacts.db). In this database all information is stored, like contacts and call history. It is located in /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases.
The database contains one table called "settings". In it, there are all contact types your phone have (like phone,google,myphonebook,facebook etc.). Contacts are stored in another table with the hint of one of these contact types.
(table "settings" | columns: "account_name", "account_type", "ungrouped_visible", "sould_sync")
I tried to create and export a filled database from android emulator. Like it seems, there is no difference between emulator database and my database from desire.
So, the database structure was not changed by htc, only the api or something else what establish the conntection between database and gui (contacts app). One idea would be to exchange databases and look what stored information htc app display (all stored information including second name and so on or only self-editable fields).
to myphonebook: You have to use "ADB Shell" from android sdk to push them (no install from sd card or so). In fact of this, /system partition have to be writeable. The xml and jar file are also required.
Can't tell you, if it is possible to remount /system writeable with adb shell without rooting the device. (had done this after rooting process and included it in a rom)
cxp_ said:
So, the database structure was not changed by htc, only the api or something else what establish the conntection between database and gui (contacts app). One idea would be to exchange databases and look what stored information htc app display (all stored information including second name and so on or only self-editable fields).
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If the DB wasn't changed/touched by HTC, then it must be the Contact-App, which only uses some Data-Fields of the Contact-DB.
Then it should be possible to use some other Contact-App, don't you think?
One point remains: Do other Apps (Phone, SMS, Facebook....) have native access to the DB or do they use the Contact-App?
while I was surfing the Older forums, i found one deep burried but useful post that mentions Which all apps are safe to remove from /system/apps folder. THANKS TO THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY POSTED THIS -- IonAphis
Please know that removing certain system app may interfere in smooth functioning of your phone!
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The list below describes all stock S5360 - S6102 (may be some app not listed) apks under /system/app. You can see this folder via RootExplorer or FileExplorer or the like, or see them through Titanium Backup, although they might be out of order and with different names (they will use the display name rather than apk name on Titanium).
YES -- Indicates an application can be removed, but please don´t remove them without reading the description.
NO -- Means an application is essential or pretty important for the functionality of your phone.
Some of these descriptions have been based off of Insanity´s I9000 Galaxy S ROM, however all of these have been tested on the S5360 S6102 (this is not just a copy paste, rather I based my original understanding of this list in his).
Use at your own risk, I cannot be held responsible if you break your phone.
If your are going to attempt this, first your should have some knowledge of flashing your phone via ODIN, because if you happen to delete something that was important to you, you might need to reflash.
Keep in mind you don´t need to delete apps right off the bat. You can rename them from Application.apk to Application.OLDapk or whatever. This will prevent your phone from recognizing them as applications without you having to fully remove them. When you are sure of your choices and want to free up space, go ahead and delete them.
Some firmware versions will have .odex files with the same name as the .apk. When deleting and apk, delete it´s respective .odex. If you are going to rename an .apk, then rename the .odex as well (aka Application.OLDodex)
AccountAndSyncSettings.apk -- NO, Sync settings, this is required, even if out don´t sync, this is because it syncs more than just calendar and contacts, it is the effective sync to your google account, required for just about anything.
ApplicationsProvider.apk -- NO, required for application installation and uninstall.
audioTuning.apk -- ?, not really sure about this one. I guess this is an automatic sound adjustment according to background noise, however I´ve never seen this into effect. If you´re feeling lucky, you can try removing it, however I´ve never monitored this actually showing up resource managers.
AxT9IME.apk -- YES, This is the stock Samsung keyboard. You can remove it, but even if you have swype, swype doesn´t have all of the keyboard layouts. I´d leave it, to my opinion, this is kind of essential.
BadgeProvider.apk -- NO, Something to do with messaging and email. Removing this causes SMS and email related apps to force close. Even if you manage to keep the program open for long enough without it foce closing, you won´t be able to send messages, they´ll just be stuck on "sending".
Bluetooth.apk -- YES, incorrectly named, this apk actually manages the Bluetooth printing rather than the bluetooth itself. If you have no need for bluetooth printing, this won´t ever be missed or will never bother you in any occasion.
BluetoothOPP.apk -- NO, this apk actually manages file transfer between phones. Remove this and you´ll never be able to transfer files. This actually includes streaming music through Car bluetooth and headsets, since they effectively speaking, file transfers.
BluetoothServices.apk -- NO, provides general framework for Bluetooth. If you´re going to use bluetooth for any reason, this apk is a must. Removing this one breaks all other bluetooth applications.
BluetoothTestMode.apk -- YES, this is activated when you need to test the fidelity of your bluetooth. You can do that by going into the test section by typing the secret code *#*#197328640#*#*. Removing it is possible, however, some BT connections actually test the bluetooth to measure how much data is transfered. This way, it calculates the buffer size it needs to use, and at what quality media can be streamed. Removing it can disrupt communications with those BT terminals or you can experience fade-outs, where while listening to songs, the sound will fade every few seconds, because of inadequate bandwith. (this can occur even with this application left as is, if your BT terminal doesn´t have the auto regulation feature)
Browser.apk -- YES, removing this will make you lose your browsing ability (not internet as a whole). If you have firefox or opera for android, and like those best, you can remove this without any problems.
BuddiesNow.apk -- YES, this is just that widget offered by the TouchWiz launcher. If you don´t use it, remove it.
CallSetting.apk -- NO, do you like to use your phone for... umm calling people? This is kind of essencial, it will allow call setting to be edited. Stuff like call waiting and forwarding will not work if you remove this, as well as other stuff I didn´t have time or willingness to test, as soon as I confirmed dialpad and other things while calling had been disabled.
Camera.apk -- NO, this is the camera application. If you find an alternative one (I don´t think there are any on the market) you could remove it.
CameraFirmware.apk -- NO, this is the actual ROM (if you will) for the camera. Without this, camera.apk is useless.
CertInstaller.apk -- NO, Installs certificates for the apps you install. I assume without this, you cannot give permissions for apps to do things and access certain folders and files. I´m guessing if you don´t have this installed, you couldn´t even install root on your phone. So in short, no.
ClockPackage.apk -- YES, however this controls the alarm clock, stopwatch, world time and timer. There are alternative applications online if you want, but this seems to do the job pretty well and all under the same apk.
Contacts.apk -- NO, this controls the contacts application (the contacts / groups / history / activities tabs). Removing this will make you have to call everyone by physically inputing their number.
ContactsProvider.apk -- NO, this controls contacts sync. Pretty useful if you still don´t use google contacs sync, you should try it. In theory if you don´t use it, you could remove it, but I don´t know what effect it would have on your contacts.
CSC.apk -- NO. This breaks CSC. According to insanity, this can be removed after first successful boot, but if you ever have to hard reset or restore factory settings, this will not allow you to boot successfully.
DataCreate.apk -- NO.
DialerTabActivity.apk -- NO. This controls the dialer. Even if you have all your contacts already stored, you cannot call them without this app.
Divx.apk -- YES. This is some licesing information for the video player. I don´t really watch alot of videos on my phone, but after removing this I´ve never had any problems. If you do remove it, and have problems, post it on the comments.
Dlna.apk -- YES. This is allshare. Never had any use for it, and it shall not be missed.
DownloadProvider.apk -- NO. Handles file downloads and market downloads.
DrmProvider.apk -- NO. In theory, you cannot remove it, it will break your ability to play DRM protected files, aka, Ringtones and SMS notifications. I´ve been in the process of de-DRMing my ringtone files. I would imagine, if you don´t have a reason to play DRM protected files, this could be removed. However keep in mind all DRM protected files will not be able to play. This apk takes up a lot of memory and stays on all the time on the background. It is one of my most hated apks, it serves no function rather than to protect you from copying or editing the stupid samsung ringtones.
DrmUA.apk -- NO, see above.
DualClock.apk -- YES. Dual clock widget. If you don´t need, remove it.
Email.apk -- NO. According to insanity, removing this will break things.Haven´t tried it yet though.
EnhancedGoogleSearchProvider.apk -- YES. This controls that ability to hold the menu button for a second or two and the search menu pop up. I usally keep it.
FactoryTest.apk -- YES. Removed it without any problems. If you have ever run autostarts, you´ll realize how much of a hog this apk really is during some actions.
FlashPlugin.apk -- YES. This allows flash content to be displayed, so even though you can, I don´t recommed it.
FlashSVGPlayer.apk -- YES. As far as I know, this is the player which provides you to view the flash content through the plugin above. Removing this might break your flashplugin.
FMRadio.apk -- YES. Radio player.
Gallery3D.apk -- YES. This is a battery hog. It´s that fancy 3D accelerometer enhanced gallery. If you remove it, you won´t be able to easily access photographs though. If you want a good replacement, I would suggest QuickPic, it does the job, it´s fast and doesn´t hog memory (although its not fancy like the 3D Gallery)
GlobalSearch.apk -- YES. This is the search function on your phone. Remember the Enhanced search this above, well, that actually accesses this to do the search. That can be removed and this will be fine (although you´ll have to access the search feature by the app drawer). But if you remove this, the enhanced search will be useless.
Gmail.apk -- YES. Don´t use gmail? It can be removed, but will break Talk.apk as well.
GmailProvider.apk -- YES. I guess it is tied to gmail.apk. See above.
GoogleApps.apk -- ?. This is didn´t even come installed on my phone, so I guess it´s not that important.
GoogleCheckin.apk -- ? Same as above.
GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk -- YES. Syncs contacts through google. This can be removed, but you won´t be able to sync contacts.
GooglePartnerSetup.apk -- NO.
GoogleSearch.apk -- YES. This is the google search widget you can add onto your launcher desktop.
GoogleSettingsProvider.apk -- NO.
GoogleSubscribedFeedsProvider.apk -- ?. Don´t know, this is not on my phone.
GpsSetup2.apk -- NO. This sets up GPS configurations.
gtalkservice.apk -- YES. You might have this as talk.apk or gtalkservice.apk, although it´s all the same thing, it´s Google Talk.
HTMLViewer.apk -- YES. No side effects were noticed when removing this.
HwCodec.apk -- ?. Don´t have this on my phone.
IcsService.apk -- ?. Don´t have this on my phone.
InfoAlarm.apk -- YES. This is the daily briefing widget. Don´t need it remove it.
InputEventApp.apk -- NO.
Layar-samsung.apk -- YES. Layar. Seems awesome on paper. Never has been of any use in reality.
LbsTestMode.apk -- YES. GPS testing mode. Can be accessed via *#*#197328640#*#*, but not needed per se.
lcdtest.apk -- YES. Removing this will cause your screen to not turn off when you lock your phone. By installing spare parts you can fix this, however if you don´t use spare parts for any other reason, that´s just replacing a passive apk for one that invades your phone on all levels. So I rather just leave it and not worry about it.
LogsProvider.apk -- NO. Lots of things will crash and force close if you do.
Maps.apk -- YES. Google Maps apk. If you don´t use it, remove it, but it is pretty useful, since it has gps navigation as well.
MarketUpdater.apk -- YES. Safe to remove but when the market gets updated you won´t be recieving the update.
MediaProvider.apk -- NO. Needed to access media files and ringtones.
MediaUploader.apk -- YES. This uploads pictures to picassa (facebook as well?). If you don´t need it, remove it.
Memo.apk -- YES. Remove it and you won´t be able to write memos though.
Mms.apk -- NO. This controls MMS sending and recieving on the phone.
MobileTrackerEngineTwo.apk -- YES. This app and the next control the tracker ability on your phone. What this does is if you lose your phone you can use this to track it down and find it. If it gets stolen, you can use this to lead the cops to the thief. Although this is an awesome idea, if you don´t live in a perfect world, it would be wiser not to go after the guy who stole your phone in case he decides to, hum..., go kill you afterwards... Besides, I live in Argentina, and the cops cannot be trusted to do this kind of job... they´ll tell you they can´t do anything. These things stay on memory all the time and really consume battery, so if you don´t care about this feature and really just take care of your stuff, you´ll not be needing these two apps.
MobileTrackerUI.apk -- YES. See Above. I forgot to mention though an extra feature this offers though. If you have these 2 apks installed, you have the samsung apps and singin (you´ll see them later further down), you can use another apk called wipereciever.apk to remotely wipe all the data on your phone, in case you are very privacy concious. However, removing any of these 2 apks, removing samsung apps and not setting up a samsung apps account before your phone gets stolen, this feature becomes disabled. Really in my opinion, its too much stuff to be worried about, and my phone doesn´t contain any nuclear launch codes. So I rely on my lock screen password to protect my data. (Most thieves don´t have the knowhow to crack the lockscreen protection and access the info inside the phone. At most they´ll get bored and might find the info on how to flash a new ROM or reset to factory settings, where your info will be deleted and your privacy sensitive stuff with it).
MtpApplication.apk -- YES. Required to sync with Kies. Do you flash your ROMs rather than update through Kies, this is useless to you then. (Updating through Kies is the equivalent of upgrading from XP to windows 7. It does the job, but it never works as well as installing from scratch.)
MusicPlayer.apk -- YES. This is the music player. If you remove this, you can still preview sounds and stuff through the SoundPlayer.apk. This can be effectively replace by PowerAMP and Winamp. In fact, if you have a stable music player alternative installed, I would recommend you delete this, since it could cause clashes and you might even get both players playing different songs at the same time via Bluetooth.
MyFiles.apk -- YES. This is the default file viewer installed by Samsung. If you use RootExplorer, this is kind of pointless. However, I sometime do things on the go and need to access things fast. I usually use this for everyday use and leave RootExplorer just to do alterations such as what we are doing in this list, so as to not delete important things by accident.
NetworkLocation.apk -- YES. This is the semi-accurate GPS simulation. It uses Cellphone Cell information to estimate your location, rather than using the battery hog GPS antenna. If you remove this, things like automatic weather location will be broken (you´ll have to input your location manually). I usually leave this on, because since it uses the very GSM network used by the phone, it seems like hitting two birds with one stone. Using the real GPS will force you to have two antennas working together. This wastes a lot of battery, and really most of the time the network location does a pretty good job of narrowing down your location. If you use GPS A LOT, I recommed just buying one of those TomToms or Garmin GPS, it has better maps, better accuracy and the very device is optimized to use only the GPS antenna, therefore wasting less battery, and not wasting your phone battery life.
OtaProvisioningService.apk -- NO. According to insanity, this is required. However see wssyncmlnps.apk to get more of an idea.
PackageInstaller.apk -- NO.
Personalization.apk -- NO.
Phone.apk -- NO. Remove this and you won´t have the dialer application. Even though your phone will theoretically work, you just won´t be able to dial out or view missed calls and stuff.
PhoneCrashNotifier.apk -- ?. Don´t know, my phone doesn´t have this.
PhoneErrService.apk -- NO.
Phone_Util.apk -- NO.
PicoTts.apk -- YES. This is part of the text to speech (not speech to text). If you´re blind, this is kind of important, because the phone will read via a a robotic voice things to you. This is also part of the Google GPS application where it will tell you "turn left" "keep right". If you remove this, GPS navigation will work, you just won´t have someone talking to you. If you decide to remove this, remove TtsService.apk as well.
Preconfig.apk -- NO.
RilFactoryApp.apk -- ?. The galaxy 3 seems to be the only phone in the world that has this. Nowhere I have seen is this apk mentioned. I have no idea what this does.
SamsungApps.apk -- YES. Samsung apps, if you remove this, you can remove signin.apk as well. If you remove this, and you manage your music and have apps via Kies, they might not work, however Kies will still connect (if you want to update firmware via Kies). By removing this, your samsung and touchwiz widgets will still work.
SamsungWidget_CalendarClock.apk -- YES. Calendar clock widget.
SamsungWidget_FeedAndUpdate.apk -- YES. Feeds and Updates widget.
SamsungWidget_StockClock.apk -- YES. Stock clock widget.
SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk -- YES. Weather clock widget.
SecDownloadProvider.apk -- NO. I believe this has to do with the maket, so I´d just leave it alone.
serviceModeApp.apk -- NO. Required for secret codes and service tasks, such as those accessed by secret codes.
Settings.apk -- NO. Isn´t settings explicit enough?
SettingsProvider.apk -- NO. Some Carriers will send you settings via sms or internal message. This is mostly for those people who don´t really know how to configure their phone (anyone not reading XDA ). Although it seems banal, it could be useful at some point, and some people have reported things force closing because of this
SetupWizard.apk -- NO. In theory can be deleted after first successful boot. However this could cause problems if you need to factory reset
shutdown.apk -- NO. Tells you your battery is low and manages shutdown notifications.
signin.apk -- YES. See SamsungApps.apk
SisoDrmProvider.apk -- NO. Has to do with the DRM. If you successfully manage to remove DRMUA and DRMService, maybe this can be removed as well. Don´t know, haven´t been able to rid my phone from drm still.
SnsAccount.apk -- YES. Does the feeds sync with facebook and twitter. Without this, you won´t be informed of new tweets of your friends saying "OMG! I´m at the toilet reading cosmo magazine. LOLZ".
SnsProvider.apk -- YES. See above.
SoundPlayer.apk -- YES. This, not to be confused with MusicPlayer.apk plays sounds and previews ringtones. Even though it can be removed, you´ll be pretty limited if you do, since it works a bit faster and to the point than MusicPlayer. It doesn´t genera playlist, history and has no visualization. It just plain to the point plays sounds. Even if you have Winamp, PowerAMP, cubed or whatever I recommend keeping this.
Stk.apk -- YES. You know those annoying menus your carrier offers you, you know, to inform you about your hororscope (no I didn´t misspell it), roaming information or traffic information, making you send a message so they can send you the info back? This is the menu apk for that. Don´t want to download your carrier (payed) games or apps telling you bad jokes? Delete this.
Street.apk -- YES. Streetview for Google Maps. Removing it will not break google maps, but you won´t get to view street pictures.
Swype.apk -- YES. Swype keyboard, and awesome alternative to samsung´s. It does a good job at predicting text, but not essential if you like to manually type all words out.
syncmldm.apk -- YES. Device Management. I read something somewhere but don´t really remember what it was. I deleted this accidentally while trying to delete syncmlds.apk but nothing has broken yet...
syncmlds.apk -- YES. This has to do with the Synchronize page options in the settings menu. If you don´t use it, it has no meaning in your life.
Talk.apk -- YES. Google Talk. There was some chatter about removing this breaking Gmail or the Market. As far as I´ve read, this can be removed, although I still haven´t gotten around to trying it out.
TalkProvider.apk -- YES. See above.
TelephonyProvider.apk -- NO.
thinkdroid.apk -- YES. This is the mobile version of a microsoft office clone. Removing this will not let you open .doc or .xls or .pps on your phone.
TouchWiz30Launcher.apk -- NO. Even though if you use Zeam or LauncherPro or GoLauncher, removing this is kind of dangerous. Let me explain. A while ago when I was a virgin at ODIN flashing and new to the phone, i deleted this because I was using LauncherPRO. I had also deleted something that made my phone force close all the time. I didn´t trust flashing yet, and in my haste, I decided to restore factory settings. The thing is, when you do that, it deletes all non stock apps and reconfigures the phone to use stock apps. When I that, even though the phone booted, I couldn´t access anything, because launchers also control the appdrawer. My phone was literally blank, although if was working. The problem is, if you factory reset, the settings that control your USB connection as MODEM or PDA go back to its original settings. As mine did. So I couldn´t get to anywhere on my phone and couldn´t get my computer to recognize the phone. Until I flashed it via Odin (after a 7 hour desperation overnight, and finding some miracle Samsung USB x64 drivers for mobile phones on a forum) the phone was in effect soft bricked.
If you remove anything from this list and have problems, you can factory reset or prepare you contacts and apps for a flashing via ODIN. If you delete however, you won´t even be able to prepare yourself or backup anything. I wish this upon no one, so I advise keeping this, just to be on the safe side.
TouchWizCalculator.apk -- YES. Calculator app, although can be removed, it´s pretty cool and functional.
TouchWizCalendar.apk -- YES. Calendar app, although can be removed, it´s pretty cool and functional.
TouchWizCalendarProvider.apk -- NO. This has something to do with calendar sync and seems to be the connection between the calendar app and the phone´s internal calendar and date settings.
TtsService.apk -- YES. See PicoTts.apk
TwWallpaperChooser.apk -- YES. Wallpaper Chooser. If you have 3DGallery or QuickPic installed, you can use those to set wallpaper, even though there are some wallpapers (internal to this apk) you won´t get.
UNAService.apk -- ?. I have no idea what this is, and so doesn´t insanity.
UserDictionaryProvider.apk -- YES. You know when you add new words, like names and nicknames to your keyboard prediction? This is where those are kept. Delete this and you´ll have to write like the English Academy of Words wants you to write. LOLZ and WTF won´t be recognized as words and you´ll have to write them out everytime you write them, rather than it being available to you via prediction.
Vending.apk -- NO. Part of the Android Market. Actually this IS the Market.
VideoPlayer.apk -- YES. Video player. Do as you wish.
VoiceDialer.apk -- YES. Allows you to dial by speaking someone´s name. Most people´s names when I say them, tend to return something entirely different from what I was looking for. Sometimes though, it surprises. For some reason this sometimes doesn´t work if you don´t have mobile internet activated, making me believe this actually sends via internet the recording, and an algorith somewhere in the Google empire sends the decodification back... Very ineffective.
VoiceRecorder.apk -- YES. Allows you to record your voice. Some people complain the quality is too low, however I use this as a notepad, rather than writing my to-do list, I speak them. Much faster and much easier. Don´t see why something such as this would need audiophile levels of quality.
VpnServices.apk -- YES. VPN for Android. Perhaps gMote or applications that allow you to control your phone via PC desktop might require this. I don´t , so I delete it, and it doesn´t break anything.
wipereceiver.apk -- YES. Remember mobile tracker? This is the apk that lets you wipe your data remotely.
WlanTest.apk -- YES. Tests wireless settings, via the same test menu mentioned on the above test apks. Required for OTA updates.
WriteandGo.apk -- YES. Write and Go application.
wssomacp.apk -- NO. Required for SMS messaging.
wssyncmlnps.apk -- YES. This is Over The Air Programming. What this does is if your provider decides it has a better way to configure your device or alterations to do to improve something, they´ll send you a message telling to dial such and such number. Your phone will go into download mode and somethings will be updated. My carrier never has done such things, and really I trust the guys from XDA to configure my phone way better than my carrier. I usually remove this.
YouTube.apk -- YES. Since android has limited flash support, this application allows you to take the full youtube experience, rather than having to access youtube through the browser. Delete it if you don´t watch videos.
thanks! really helpful!
Thanks bro nice one
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that list needs a rename of some sort. There's apps there that my phone doesn't have or are named different, making it very difficult to follow along which apps to remove and which to keep.
i felt like reading a bible
nice one
nice i will try this.
i'm afraid this list is outdated. we already have the updated one for sgy.
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i'm afraid this list is outdated. we already have the updated one for sgy.
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Yes friend i found it other forum ..so.i posted hare.....plz pm me updated one i update my thread with credit.....
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you can check the newest one on FAQ section.
Thanks bro. It's helpful.
wo ho ho...
such a long list ...
nice...
but ut reminds me of somethimg that i want to ask..
recently my phone was auto-bricked ...
i was not able to acces any apps like dialler or msgs...
however menu and home screen were working...
but after some time..
evem home screen force close..
nd my phone shows nothing else than black screen....
thought restart gonna make everything okay i made a restart..
nd boom..soft brick..
odin made it back to life but i still want to know what was the reason..
was it because these apps got del. bythemself...
can a virus do that.?
(just to be sure)...
rooting is new for me...and i am noob to root...
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Thank You Sir! It's pretty helpful
Nice work
Very helpful
Can u tell me why some apps force closes when installed in system??
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Ohh yes..
Good job man.
Helpful.
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Accidentally deleted account&sync by titanium backup
Dear sir accidentally i deleted account&sync by titanium backup and when i install new account&sync.apk it was not installing .Please help me ASAP.
Hi!
I just installed the KITKANG rom (cf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549776) and a the first glance, it is pretty nice. But then I noticed a few things I really dislike such as
- The Web Browser does not reformat text (to make it fitting on the screen) if you zoom in manually by gesture. The browser I had on my previous image (caynogenmod 7) did this. And I don't want to miss that feature anymore.
- The contacts application seems to work by syncing contacts tothe Google cloud, only. My old contacts app had the choice to store contacts locally on the phone without Google sync.
I have no idea how to get this missing features back, again. Any comments / pointers?
I.
- Install another browser that has this feature
- The newer 'people' app may not have the option to store locally, but why do you want this? The whole point of an Android phone is to sync with your Google account.
It is dangerous to only store your contacts on the phone, because if you ever lose the phone, you lose all your contacts.
If you sync your contacts to your Google account and you lose your phone, your contacts are still safe :good:
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- Install another browser that has this feature
- The newer 'people' app may not have the option to store locally, but why do you want this? The whole point of an Android phone is to sync with your Google account.
It is dangerous to only store your contacts on the phone, because if you ever lose the phone, you lose all your contacts.
If you sync your contacts to your Google account and you lose your phone, your contacts are still safe :good:
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@ browser issue: I meanwhile learned that the issue cause by a change of the the rendering engine in Android to WebView. So, almost all browsers are affected by this. (For details, google "Text Reflow Removed From WebViews In KitKat, Probably Not Coming Back"). Opera is an exception, because it comes alone with its own machinery. However, I tried Opera and is is slow on my HTC Desire. As many, many other people complaining, I cannot understand why the Android development folks dropped such a fundamental feature. The Android Browser of Kitkat tends to be unusable now! And I consider a smartphone without a proper browser as unusable as well. Which at the end might prevent me from buying another Android smartphone...
@ contacts: I totally disagree. Well, yes, from Googles perspective, your statement might be true. But for the user, Android is at first just an operating system to run your smartphone. Think about why Google wants your data...! - I want to *own* my data, so I don't want to use cloud services. Strange that you think syncing of data is equivalent to syncing to Google! Of course I sync all my data. To my own PC. If I'd loose my phone, I won't loose my data, just re-install it to my new phone from my PC.
It is nice that Google offers syncing. But enforcing to sync *is* evil...
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@ browser issue: I meanwhile learned that the issue cause by a change of the the rendering engine in Android to WebView. So, almost all browsers are affected by this. (For details, google "Text Reflow Removed From WebViews In KitKat, Probably Not Coming Back"). Opera is an exception, because it comes alone with its own machinery. However, I tried Opera and is is slow on my HTC Desire. As many, many other people complaining, I cannot understand why the Android development folks dropped such a fundamental feature. The Android Browser of Kitkat tends to be unusable now! And I consider a smartphone without a proper browser as unusable as well. Which at the end might prevent me from buying another Android smartphone...
@ contacts: I totally disagree. Well, yes, from Googles perspective, your statement might be true. But for the user, Android is at first just an operating system to run your smartphone. Think about why Google wants your data...! - I want to *own* my data, so I don't want to use cloud services. Strange that you think syncing of data is equivalent to syncing to Google! Of course I sync all my data. To my own PC. If I'd loose my phone, I won't loose my data, just re-install it to my new phone from my PC.
It is nice that Google offers syncing. But enforcing to sync *is* evil...
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I can see this descending quickly into a rather philosophical debate, but on the basis of your reasoning I wonder whether an Android smartphone is suitable for your needs in the first place. I didn't know your stance on personal data from your first post.
I agree with the text reflow browser, a really useful feature. Opera has it like you found out, though the Desire is just an old phone now which struggles to run it. Plenty of newer Android devices will run it just fine. The depth of the Play Store is such that you'll almost certainly find an alternative suitable for your requirements, so perhaps test and consider that for future smartphone purchases.
As for syncing with cloud services, it comes down to user trust and needs I guess. You're right you don't have to use Google, but an Android smartphone really does work best if you use their services.
No, I don't think that syncing of all my data is equivalent to syncing to Google, I use other other accounts too and don't sync everything. In my opinion I think it's possible to find a reasonable middle ground between paranoid tin hat and being ignorant about all personal data. For me, I disable all location tracking stuff and usage stats for any apps (not just Google ones), as I don't need them and feel uncomfortable sending this data. But I do sync other google services like Gmail / contacts because I find they work and are convenient for me. You believe it's evil, I believe it's useful and convenient, just a difference of opinion.
For your workaround, if you don't want to sync contacts, you could disable contact sync within the settings. Would be equivalent to local storage. Or install a different contacts app to manage and store contacts locally.
To avoid this philosophical debate, I'll try give a short answer.
I am using Android for about 5 years now. Without using Google cloud services. And have been a happy Android user. Sounds quite funny to me if someone wonders if Android would be the right thing for me.
Using cloud services is not really a matter of trust. I.e. I am not afraid that Google looks into single items and makes use out of it. But if you have heard about "big data", you can imagine what the result can be when all the data of some many people gets available for ... things you cannot even imagine..
I tried to add a contact with Google sync switched off. It just don't work. The app hangs...
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To avoid this philosophical debate, I'll try give a short answer.
I am using Android for about 5 years now. Without using Google cloud services. And have been a happy Android user. Sounds quite funny to me if someone wonders if Android would be the right thing for me.
Using cloud services is not really a matter of trust. I.e. I am not afraid that Google looks into single items and makes use out of it. But if you have heard about "big data", you can imagine what the result can be when all the data of some many people gets available for ... things you cannot even imagine..
I tried to add a contact with Google sync switched off. It just don't work. The app hangs...
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You're revealing more about your preferences and Android experience to date with each post...it's not just me wondering whether Android is right for you, in your second post you said so yourself
Anyway each to their own.
Have you tried installing a completely separate contacts/dialer application? You could sideload or use a different app store to find one. A few I know of:
- Contacts+
- Ex dialer
- RocketDial
- Go contacts ex
I'm certain at least one of them will be able to create phone contacts only.
I use the screenshot feature almost daily and it has been working fine until the other night. Suddenly, when I open the Gallery app, the Screenshots album shows no cover image, just a gray Gallery app icon, and then disappears within a split second. I cannot see or access it at all within the Gallery app, including from "All Albums" (though it is chosen to be on the front page). The folder and all the image files are still on my phone, as I can see them in My Folders and even open them from there in Gallery.
I thought maybe the folder got too many images in it, so I moved them to a different folder, but that didn’t work. I thought maybe the folder got corrupted, so I deleted it, but when I took another screenshot to have the phone create the folder again, it did not fix the problem. There was an update for my phone OS, so I updated, but that didn’t fix the problem.
Thanks for any help!
Try clearing the system cache...
I had the same problem, iirc it was solved during a flash/full wipe.
I also had a problem with every single image showing up... apart from the standard folders like screenshot.
With simple gallery at least, you can exclude folders. Or .nomedia
Candiety said:
I had the same problem, iirc it was solved during a flash/full wipe.
I also had a problem with every single image showing up... apart from the standard folders like screenshot.
With simple gallery at least, you can exclude folders. Or .nomedia
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That's not solving it, it's nuking it. It may reoccur; always best to find to root cause. Only exceptions are after a major firmware upgrade, a boot loop, changes in hidden user settings, malware, etc. Poorly coded 3rd party apps can occasionally permanently alter hidden user settings if so it's important to not reload that app after a factory reset. Regardless back up all critical data now if it isn't...
There maybe a conflicting 3rd party app, try in safe mode. Try clearing the Gallery app data before a reset, maybe other Samsung system apps as well.
Play with it for at least a week or two before doing a factory reset for a minor issue like this.
Do some Google searches... you're likely not the only one that had this problem.
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Thanks, I'll try that!
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Thanks, I'll try that!
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You're welcome. It's always worth a try and can clear bizarre behaviors. Zero risk. I do it about once every month or two as part of routine maintenance or if troubleshooting.
If you don't upgrade or update Android loads can be very long lived. One reason I advocate finding the root cause. This N10+'s last factory reset was in June 2020; still running fast and very stable. Zero malware on this load, still running on Pie.
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You're welcome. It's always worth a try and can clear bizarre behaviors. Zero risk. I do it about once every month or two as part of routine maintenance or if troubleshooting.
If you don't upgrade or update Android loads can be very long lived. One reason I advocate finding the root cause. This N10+'s last factory reset was in June 2020; still running fast and very stable. Zero malware on this load, still running on Pie.
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Unfortunately, that didn’t solve the problem. Any other ideas? Samsung never got back to me in the help section of Samsung Members, and nobody on there had any valid ideas in the community section.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
Unfortunately, that didn’t solve the problem. Any other ideas? Samsung never got back to me in the help section of Samsung Members, and nobody on there had any valid ideas in the community section.
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Try in safe mode.
No apps were disabled using a Package Disabler or adb edits, right?
If global power management is active, turn it off.
Make sure all Samsung system apps have the permissions they need.
It's likely a settings issue... play with it. Androids wuv attention.
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Try in safe mode.
No apps were disabled using a Package Disabler or adb edits, right?
If global power management is active, turn it off.
Make sure all Samsung system apps have the permissions they need.
It's likely a settings issue... play with it. Androids wuv attention.
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I downloaded a couple of other gallery apps to see if they saw the album/folder. One from Google did, but another from Google (the pre-installed one that I'd long-ago disabled) did not, and two other apps did. Only one had the ability to change the app cover pic, but that didn't affect the Gallery app from Samsung. So, I made the decision to Clear Data for the app even though I'd have to set up the albums again and lose everything in the Trash folder (I do sometimes undelete pics, especially, uhm, racy ones to share again before deleting them again ). I didn’t have to sign back in and it kept my sync settings with OneDrive, thankfully. Most importantly, it FIXED the problem with the screenshot folder! I just tried taking a random screenshot to make sure it would still work after and it did. Phew! It was annoying to set my albums on the first page up again (choose them and drag them in the order I want them in/most importance, like Snapseed and Screenshots in the top row with Camera and the Camera album from my previous phone) and lose the Trash, but worth it.
Thank you for the help!
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I downloaded a couple of other gallery apps to see if they saw the album/folder. One from Google did, but another from Google (the pre-installed one that I'd long-ago disabled) did not, and two other apps did. Only one had the ability to change the app cover pic, but that didn't affect the Gallery app from Samsung. So, I made the decision to Clear Data for the app even though I'd have to set up the albums again and lose everything in the Trash folder (I do sometimes undelete pics, especially, uhm, racy ones to share again before deleting them again ). I didn’t have to sign back in and it kept my sync settings with OneDrive, thankfully. Most importantly, it FIXED the problem with the screenshot folder! I just tried taking a random screenshot to make sure it would still work after and it did. Phew! It was annoying to set my albums on the first page up again (choose them and drag them in the order I want them in/most importance, like Snapseed and Screenshots in the top row with Camera and the Camera album from my previous phone) and lose the Trash, but worth it.
Thank you for the help!
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You're welcome.
Yay! Now you feel like an ace So much more rewarding than arbitrary doing a factory reset.
The question remains what caused it to happen.
If it reoccures try to remember the events before it manifested itself that may have caused it.
A scripted malware jpeg from a download can cause hell, damaging other files in the same folder. Deleting that jpeg will stop the damage. The trigger is opening the jpeg to view it; it will then damage other files in that folder. Some can be repaired easily if it just changed the file type suffix, other files have deeper damage. I hate these critters.
All downloads* especially jpegs and pngs should go to the download folder first. Open them there first before transferring anywhere else. Look for changes in other files in that folder.
May be the only way to spot these vermin. Antivirus apps may not ID them...
*Scan with online Virustotal any file that may warrant it before installing or moving out of the download folder. If there's any doubt, delete the file. Downloads are a known malware vector... delete any files you didn't download. Police the download folder daily. Scanning with Malwarebytes may tag infected files there too.
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You're welcome.
Yay! Now you feel like an ace So much more rewarding than arbitrary doing a factory reset.
The question remains what caused it to happen.
If it reoccures try to remember the events before it manifested itself that may have caused it.
A scripted malware jpeg from a download can cause hell, damaging other files in the same folder. Deleting that jpeg will stop the damage. The trigger is opening the jpeg to view it; it will then damage other files in that folder. Some can be repaired easily if it just changed the file type suffix, other files have deeper damage. I hate these critters.
All downloads* especially jpegs and pngs should go to the download folder first. Open them there first before transferring anywhere else. Look for changes in other files in that folder.
May be the only way to spot these vermin. Antivirus apps may not ID them...
*Scan with online Virustotal any file that may warrant it before installing or moving out of the download folder. If there's any doubt, delete the file. Downloads are a known malware vector... delete any files you didn't download. Police the download folder daily. Scanning with Malwarebytes may tag infected files there too.
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I only have screenshots in that folder, only sometimes moving some out to organize them (ex. relationship memes from Instagram in one folder, regular memes stay in the screenshots folder, random things I need to save to refer to go in a random-screenshots folder, house ideas go in another folder, etc.), never moving anything into it. Downloads are in the Downloads (with or without the "s", I forget which is the current one) folder, may or may not be moved or deleted depending on their use. I have an anti-virus app that runs all the time, tells me when anything installs (because it scans it), etc.
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I only have screenshots in that folder, only sometimes moving some out to organize them (ex. relationship memes from Instagram in one folder, regular memes stay in the screenshots folder, random things I need to save to refer to go in a random-screenshots folder, house ideas go in another folder, etc.), never moving anything into it. Downloads are in the Downloads (with or without the "s", I forget which is the current one) folder, may or may not be moved or deleted depending on their use. I have an anti-virus app that runs all the time, tells me when anything installs (because it scans it), etc.
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You really don't need antivirus running real time if using Android 9 or higher... unless you do stupid things. Android 9 is very robust and secure if used right. I run a logging firewall always, this is more useful than antivirus. Any app that doesn't require internet access to work is blocked.
I scan every couple weeks with free Malwarebytes and Trojan Scanner, that's it. In 3 years Malwarebytes tagged one trojan preloader that slipped through the Samsung browser. I would've spotted it anyway as I police the download folder almost daily. Almost all malware is user installed or downloaded.
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You really don't need antivirus running real time if using Android 9 or higher... unless you do stupid things. Android 9 is very robust and secure if used right. I run a logging firewall always, this is more useful than antivirus. Any app that doesn't require internet access to work is blocked.
I scan every couple weeks with free Malwarebytes and Trojan Scanner, that's it. In 3 years Malwarebytes tagged one trojan preloader that slipped through the Samsung browser. I would've spotted it anyway as I police the download folder almost daily. Almost all malware is user installed or downloaded.
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That's just how it works, it runs all the time. Been using it for many years. Comes with my plan for my PC anti-virus program. Also has features to find a lost/stolen phone with a pic if someone tries to use it, tells you what apps have certain features like ads or access, etc. And tells you if anything installs (like, did you know Facebook updates itself multiple times a day?).
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That's just how it works, it runs all the time. Been using it for many years. Comes with my plan for my PC anti-virus program. Also has features to find a lost/stolen phone with a pic if someone tries to use it, tells you what apps have certain features like ads or access, etc. And tells you if anything installs (like, did you know Facebook updates itself multiple times a day?).
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Did it ever find any serious Android malware like a trojan preloader?
FB, WhatsApp, any social media, sales apps are either package blocked if bloatware or never installed. The firewall prevents any updating mischief. Even and especially Samsung updates are blocked.
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Did it ever find any serious Android malware like a trojan preloader?
FB, WhatsApp, any social media, sales apps are either package blocked if bloatware or never installed. The firewall prevents any updating mischief. Even and especially Samsung updates are blocked.
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Nope, no problem with any viruses.
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Nope, no problem with any viruses.
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You see why I said what I said?
Real time antivirus slows the Android and wastes valuable resources in doing so.
Manually scanning downloads and apps to be side loaded with online Virustotal yields better results and uses far less resources.
Android 9 is the most robust platform I ever used, it's easy to manage and keep secure.
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You see why I said what I said?
Real time antivirus slows the Android and wastes valuable resources in doing so.
Manually scanning downloads and apps to be side loaded with online Virustotal yields better results and uses far less resources.
Android 9 is the most robust platform I ever used, it's easy to manage and keep secure.
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It does scan apps before installing them if they are not from trusted sources, and scans updates/new installs as well. You can also manually scan all apps and all files. Among other features (which apps use which permissions, etc.). Definitely not slowing my phone at all. Even auto-updates downloading and installing doesn't slow this phone, unlike my previous one. I don't even notice anything installed until I see the anti-virus notification that an app updated, so was scanned.
The Screenshots album disappeared again this afternoon, ugh! At least I know how to fix it, but spending time to choose the front-page albums and put them in the order I need them in isn't something I wanted to do again. I don't know if the size of the folder/album is what is causing the problem or not, so I moved all but 32 of the latest screenshot images to a new album. Here's hoping it won't happen again! (And yes, I did a scan of my phone after, and no viruses.)
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It does scan apps before installing them if they are not from trusted sources, and scans updates/new installs as well. You can also manually scan all apps and all files. Among other features (which apps use which permissions, etc.). Definitely not slowing my phone at all. Even auto-updates downloading and installing doesn't slow this phone, unlike my previous one. I don't even notice anything installed until I see the anti-virus notification that an app updated, so was scanned.
The Screenshots album disappeared again this afternoon, ugh! At least I know how to fix it, but spending time to choose the front-page albums and put them in the order I need them in isn't something I wanted to do again. I don't know if the size of the folder/album is what is causing the problem or not, so I moved all but 32 of the latest screenshot images to a new album. Here's hoping it won't happen again! (And yes, I did a scan of my phone after, and no viruses.)
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Duration of unused files in My Files is set to what? Double all Gallery settings.
Virustotal gives better oversight to make an informed decision. OTA upgrades and auto updates can and do break things. Samsung's will run well without them.
Just because a virus scan finds nothing it doesn't mean there is nothing. If it's an undetected scripted jpeg it's going to be a whole lot of "fun".
I am facing the same issue My screenshots folder also disappears from the gallery app.
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I am facing the same issue My screenshots folder also disappears from the gallery app.
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What model, OS version?
What Gallery app version?
Any recent firmware changes, OTA updates or upgrades?
Maybe Samsung auto updated this app?