Miui vs android versions - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi guys I know android version matters but I had a doubt that . Does miui does the job or is android version very necessary cause I use custom ROM havoc os for now but I want a stable software and if I install miui 10 will I miss something and miui too has some features and I quite miss it on custom ROM .
But I wanted to know that weather custom ROM is safe to use for a longer time as I don't want to lose data and not interested in changing ROM frequently and as miui gets on updated every now and then is there any difference or it's just the same

I was a long time android user and if I found a rom that did what I needed and was stable I did not continuously update unless I had bugs.
Usually the new features or fixes are minimal unless going between android versions - marshmellow to oreo for instance..
I am now using Miui, other then the screen layout it is pretty much the same. not seeing anything different in my day today usage other then I have started using gestures and full screen (so no navigation bar at the bottom but still have the status bar at the top).
There ARE a couple of things I need to resolve - ads in the file manager (will look to stop that, or see if a 3rd party manager removes them). but give them a go and see what works for you..

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[Q] Various problems

Hello !
First of all I would like to thank the creators and developers for the amazing G Pad.
I've always wanted to try various roms and kernels, unfortulately I'm always encountering problems despite following tutorials...
For example I've understood that I need to flash the 4.2 stock base if I want to flash customs roms. When I do that, with a rooted device on which TWRP 2.7.0 is installed, the only thing the tablet does at startup (when I want to flash the rom) is running some sort of script and it reboots (and I get the initial configuration wizard)... I've also tried to wipe data/system/cache before flashing the 4.2 base but the script thing was still happening and of course the only way to get the tablet back to a usable state is running the LG support tool that flashes the default system.
Then, I've tried CM 11 based roms. It goes well, but for some reasons the tablet seems less responsible for things like the screen rotation, as compared with the 4.4 stock rom. I also have problems with Google Play Movies : I can't view movies in high definition. The same goes with Youtube, the maximum I can get is 720p (when the 4.4 stock rom allows me to viex in 1080p). Even with tuning the dpi scale with a root app these problems remain (although the global interface seems smaller).
And i've tried LG 4.2/4.4 stock based roms, but the android system or keyboard keeps crashing at startup...:crying:
So for the moment I'm stuck with the 4.4.2 LG stock rom. The LG interface is not bad but I don't really like it (less than pure android experience) and there is some lag especially when viewing videos. And there are some apps I never use. I can flash custom kernels to help with the gamma issues but that's all.
Maybe i'm missing something, in that case maybe someone here will help me to find the solutions. It would be great !

Paranoid Android

Anyone here running Paranoid Android on their Nexus 7 2013 Wifi? I can't seem to find any videos on youtube.
How's it running for you?
You dont need any videos, it is just stock with theme engine and some quicksettings toggles.
People usually stay away from Paranoid Android because : It gets updated at most twice a year and usually they abandon updating they ROM after one build. For example on any device: MM comes out, they release after half an year a build and then maybe, if lucky, another one after 4-5 months and then after a month or so, Nougat comes out they do not make a final build of MM and so on. It's just unreliable ... I prefer staying on Google's stock image and root it, instead of having a custom ROM with almost 0 added customization options and unreliable updates and improvements that "may" or may not come in the future if they want to release a build or they just skip to next Android version.
TL;DR : Google Stock Image > Paranoid Android because it has almost the same limited UI customization options and features but Google updates Android with fixes and security updates more frequently than Paranoid Android does. My advice : stay away from Paranoid Android.
True, it is not going to harm your device or anything but there is no reason at all to get into the trouble of installing this rom and setting everything up from scratch.

Is the OnePlus the best phone for ROM flashing addicts?

I'm seriously considering getting the OnePlus 3. I notice they give the ROM on their website, it's near stock Android, based on Cyanogenmod and (I believe) it doesn't have a warranty killswitch like Motorola or Samsung, etc. It makes it pretty easy to try other roms and just go back doesn't it?
Pretty much, yeah.
oxygen and cyanogen are both based on AOSP but oxygen isnt based on cyanogen i think.
yep
Yes, indeed it is the best phone for modding lovers!
First thing I did when I got this phone was unlock it flash a kernel overclock it and install a custom ROM lol
To some extent is true unless you feel the smoothness of Oxygen OS + Camera . I have tried almost all ROMs out there but I kept getting back to OOS.
I won't blame custom ROMs for camera ( waiting for camera blobs ) but for the smoothness. If you're ​like me , I bet you won't be flashing custom ROMs regularly.
You can flash Franco kernel for great battery life on stock , you can't do on others. Plus few customization mods on stock are a delight like changing clock positions , adding backgrounds to quick setting panel , and a 4 row panel!
yes absolutely, just as always u have to read and be careful... but yes it is so easy to unlock bootloader, root and custom recovery and has great dev support
shubhaemk said:
To some extent is true unless you feel the smoothness of Oxygen OS + Camera . I have tried almost all ROMs out there but I kept getting back to OOS.
I won't blame custom ROMs for camera ( waiting for camera blobs ) but for the smoothness. If you're ​like me , I bet you won't be flashing custom ROMs regularly.
You can flash Franco kernel for great battery life on stock , you can't do on others. Plus few customization mods on stock are a delight like changing clock positions , adding backgrounds to quick setting panel , and a 4 row panel!
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I think you might be confused here: stock OOS doesn't have features like change clock position or adding background to QS panel.
If you are speaking about flashable mods, well, that would fall within phone modding again.
Giocarro said:
I think you might be confused here: stock OOS doesn't have features like change clock position or adding background to QS panel.
If you are speaking about flashable mods, well, that would fall within phone modding again.
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Yes, but it won't fall under ROM flashing as the title asks.
I just gave him ways to customize OOS , cause if he wants to stick to stock and want custom ROM customization , not fully though ... Still 20% customization are possible.
shubhaemk said:
Yes, but it won't fall under ROM flashing as the title asks.
I just gave him ways to customize OOS , cause if he wants to stick to stock and want custom ROM customization , not fully though ... Still 20% customization are possible.
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To some extent is true unless you feel the smoothness of Oxygen OS + Camera . I have tried almost all ROMs out there but I kept getting back to OOS.
I won't blame custom ROMs for camera ( waiting for camera blobs ) but for the smoothness. If you're ​like me , I bet you won't be flashing custom ROMs regularly.
You can flash Franco kernel for great battery life on stock , you can't do on others. Plus few customization mods on stock are a delight like changing clock positions , adding backgrounds to quick setting panel , and a 4 row panel!
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Yes but I was referring more to people (like me) who like to try new ROMs just for fun, not necessarily because something's missing on their devices. But thanks for the tips though!
Yes it is I learning every time new new thing when ever I flashing new ROM every 3 days i am become addicted to flashing new ROMs and finding new features. Right now I am using vertexos ROM with render kernel beta(pelt) variant it is really very neat ROM with fantastic kernel. Battery discharge is seriously amazing when I am using any application or ideal time discharge, seriously amazing.
Right now yes
This is the first phone where i didn't even bother to try a custom ROM. Stock OOS is working great out of the box minus some WiFi issues with my repeater.
abhibnl said:
This is the first phone where i didn't even bother to try a custom ROM. Stock OOS is working great out of the box minus some WiFi issues with my repeater.
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I agree I stuck with OOS too instead of going cyanogenmod, stock is great
YES!!
I'd say yea. Considering it boot loader unlocks like a Nexus and has recovery.. I got this first thing I did was flash AICP then as I went along I thought I'd give stock a try. Or rather a modified stock (freedomOS) and ever since I've tried going back to AICP RR etc but it just made me want to go back to stock. So my advice. Before you go flashing all the non stock roms. Give stock a chance or a stock based Rom. And browse the mod forums for the device. There's a lot of stock mods. The one plus team made it a point to add some minor features that make sense into the rom but it still feels like AOSP with some minor differences. The shelf is literally the only way I keep my life in order. If you want me to go more in detail feel free to pm me I'll answer any questions
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You can always make backups and go back and forth. I do indeed like the stock ROM, but it doesn't support OSM and being able to theme apps, as well as system, is something I like. Right now, I am running AOSP-Extended.

Thoughts: MIUI 9 Global or MIUI 9 from Xiaomi.eu or MIUI 9 from Mr. Raines

Hello!
I would like to know what did you choose to put on your Mi6, and how you're experience has been any of the three specific versions of the ROM. I am getting my Mi6 this week, and then, I'll be requesting the bootloader to be unlocked which would take a few more days.
I have been reading threads related of the three options that are available, but it would be good to have a thread which compares and discuss potential benefits when it comes to making a decision about which ROM to flash.
1. MIUI 9 Global ROM (Stable Version or Developer Version)
http://en.miui.com/download-326.html
This would be the more straightforward choice, and probably the Mi6 will come with it for me (unless it will have a fake ROM from GearBest then I will need to change it anyway). Therefore, either I could choose to stay on the Global ROM or consider the two options below which I want to.
2. MIUI 9 from Xiaomi.eu (Based on Chinese Beta)
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/7-9-21-22.41658/
I was strongly considering installing this as Xiaomi.eu has been around for a long time, and they have been compiling their ROM without any bloatware from MIUI 9 Global ROM. It sounds like a great option for long term use with regular updates, experienced developers and not having to keep trying different ROMs.
3. MIUI 9 (Epic ROM) by Mr. Raines (Xiaomi.eu Version or Global Version)
http://www.epicrom.pro/#sagit
Going by the description, it seems that there are lots of optimisations and features included and retained from MIUI from Xiaomi.eu while removing the bloatware further. And I am converging towards wanting to go for this ROM.
i.e, MIUI 9 with DOZE enabled, New apps added to OTA and MODs, Optimizations on TWRP installation and GAPPS, Better Intelligent CPU management and RAM. Gapps Pico pre-installed.
Now, it seems that this ROM has two variations now. If I understand this correctly, first they take the above Xiaomi.eu ROM and tune it further. But I also noticed that they started another thread with Epic ROM based on MIUI Global Version which offers the same tuning but from Xiaomi Global ROM.
Summary:
If we can just get some experienced feedback and recommendations in, and keep the discussion going then it would make the decision a lot easier. And I do wish to set my phone up and then, not really have to deal with changing ROMs every few months or so.
Let me know! Thanks.
p.s. Given that the kernel is out, and when a stable official Lineage OS ROM makes its way to us, then that would be an interesting option too, but I don't mind the MIUI interface as long as it is optimised as much as it can be.
Firstly sorry for my english, but i want to help you. I tried all these roms multiple times. Because i think my phone's standby battery drain is awful. I started with global beta and with this rom battery drain at night %6-8. And then read couple of thoughts about xiaomi.eu rom, i wanted to try. Yes, there was no bloatware, similar performance, little bit worse camera quality and a few differences(cause based on chinese beta). But my phone's standby drain was %5-6. Not a big difference. Then i saw epic rom and i tried. Again, no bloatware, similar perfrmance etc. and some extras like built-in ads blocker. Roms info said better battery performance, doze enabled etc. but unfortunately im disappointed again. Battery drain was %5-6 at night(wifi,gps,nfc etc. everything off). Although, I have friends who say they are happy with epic rom. My suggestion is, you should try global beta first and then try epic rom for benefits. Now, i am on global beta cause i dont to want to try anymore different roms and custom roms benefits are not that important for me. İ hope i could help.
I've got the exact same problem as ozguremek12 with battery standby on all roms... it seems like the phone doesn't enter deep sleep state on miui.
There's not THAT much difference between them tbh, I'd go with the global one just because it saves you the hassle of having to unlock your bootloader. I've yet to try Lineage, which I will once Oreo build is available for this device.
well, I have tried all of MIUI ROMS (dev,stable, china, global) and also MIUI.EU and to tell the truth global dev suit me the most but with root
If you uninstall few bloatware you will achieve ca 2 days standby and 6h SOT
I was only with MIUI because of FBE (which MIUI.EU didn't have), but now when most custom ROM offer encryption , to tell the truth, I can't see anything to stick with MIUI(maybe if someone need bootloader locked)
I found more bugs in global dev than some custom ROMS eg Lineageos from @xiaobai112220 is really nice and stable
At theese moment I am in Mokee ROM and I am happy.
PS.I wasn't able to get lower than 0,6% battery drain per hour during the night.
I`ve been using epic rom for about 2 months now.
It is very stable, absolutely everything works and I also get around 4 to 4:30 sot everyday - which is quite decent imo.
The only bug I experienced is on the stock calendar app - when I choose the "all day" option when creating a event, it switches to the year of 1969 - so I installed google calendar and now everything is 100%.
The camera quality is stunning as well.
This is my recommendation.
Global stable has too much bloatware.
wojtoo said:
well, I have tried all of MIUI ROMS (dev,stable, china, global) and also MIUI.EU and to tell the truth global dev suit me the most but with root
If you uninstall few bloatware you will achieve ca 2 days standby and 6h SOT
I was only with MIUI because of FBE (which MIUI.EU didn't have), but now when most custom ROM offer encryption , to tell the truth, I can't see anything to stick with MIUI(maybe if someone need bootloader locked)
I found more bugs in global dev than some custom ROMS eg Lineageos from @xiaobai112220 is really nice and stable
At theese moment I am in Mokee ROM and I am happy.
PS.I wasn't able to get lower than 0,6% battery drain per hour during the night.
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- what ROM are you using ? Can you give me the link sir?
I am using Mokee with donation package
Also some changes with built in Aegis and few google services modifications ( with mytoolpro)

Is it worth installing CustomROM?

Hello,
I'm thinking about installing some CustomROM last days, but I'm a little bit sceptical about it. Is it worth loosing the warranty? My device is circa 6 months old so I don't want to mess it up to home-unrecoverable state (CEDRIC XT1676, 3/16, DualSIM). What are the biggest advantages and disadvantages of installing CustomROM?
Also, I have some requirements (they're sorted by importance - first one is the most important, the last one is less important)
- it has to be faster and more stable than StockROM - it's the major reason I wanna install CustomROM
- I need Moto Actions (at least double shake to turn on the light) to be working
- I need DualSIM to be working too - if only one SIM would work on DualSIM phone, the phone would lost a part of its potential
- in-built camera app has to be working
- the more AOSP look (interface, launcher, font, animations etc.), the better it is for me
- it should be built on Oreo (8.0/8.1 - doesn't matter) - I think that putting a Nougat CustomROM is a step back these days when a lot of stable CustomROMs for G5 were already released
Is there any ROM that can fit my requirements? Thanks in advance.
Read the rom features and requirements on the first post of the rom thread
This will also include what is or is not working
There is also a thread answering your question about advantages/disadvantages & it was only on page 1 of this Q&A thread so please search before posting
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/help/rooting-flashing-advantages-t3781467
I know, I can find working/non-working list in every thread but I want an opinion by someone who changes or was changing ROM more often than socks I mean by someone, who can compare custom with custom (which fit my requirements) and stock with custom (again, with one that fit my requirements).
It's very rare for stock camera to be working on oreo, though footej works just fine.
When it comes to the speed, it depends more on the kernel and what tweaks you have applied rather than the rom itself, though of course, a less bloated rom will always be at least slightly faster.
If you want speed, I recommend installing l speed, you can choose between favouring battery life or performance.
no it's not worth it my moto g5 is hardbricked caz i flashed a stupid 64 bit rom and no one was able to return to stock rom after flashed these 64 bit roms becase if you returned to stock without losing imel like me you will eventually lose imel when you update you stock rom if motorola sends you an ota
so you want a custom rom ; flash a 32 bit one or don't flash one at all

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