Plugging it in to a HDTV for gaming? - Sony Xperia XA1 Questions & Answers

Salut,
The Sony Xperia XA1 is a great, sturdy phone. Had mine for a year or so. Maybe battery life could be better but the same goes for more or less all phones.
I am playing a video game on my XA1 and now I want to display it on my TV. I have a 1080p HDTV with HDMI inputs, it is not a "Smart TV".
I looked on the web and I found out that MHL support was dropped by Sony by the time XA1 came out :/
Is there a way for me to connect my XA1 to my TV via a wire to display the XA1 screen? I need a lag-free solution that is suitable for gaming.
Also, is there a lag-free controller setup that I could use at the same time? I have tried Dualshock 4 via Bluetooth and the lag is horrid. Nothing less than unusable.

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ion with atrix lapdock

I have an ion and a motorola atrix lapdock and since the ion has micro hdmi and usb i thought it would work with the lapdock. I had to disassemble the lapdock's cradle and have the wires hanging freely for it to work. I was wondering if anyone else has tried it and noticed no sound through the hdmi and video playback stuttering unless headphone or external speakers are plugged in to the ion. If your gonna point me to thread about the lapdock and the xperia S I read through it a couple times and found no mention. Any help would be or ideas would be appreciated.
I did the same like week and a half ago. Looks like ion don't have drivers for Lapdock USB Speakers. And when I tried to run any HD movie or youtube ion freezed. And when lapdock screen on - Ion not charging, charge only when lid is closed. So I don't see any point to use it because resolution on the lapdock screen sucks .

Play games on tv with xperia devices

Hello everybody, I tried to information about it, and found nothing beyond a prototype sony hdmi connector, specially produced for an event.
It would be possible to play games on TV via dlna or some other?
I think a dock might work. Not sure.
Yea, maybe...I take a look.

Miracast for Gaming

I picked up the Rockfish adapter from Best Buy after they dropped the price to $29. It works well and was easy to set up with the Shield, but I'm noticing there's a bit of lag between what shows up on the Shield screen versus the TV screen. For example, pull down the notification window, and you see it happen on the TV slightly after you do on the Shield. The beta switch to improve Miracast for gaming seemed to help a little bit, but the delay is still visible.
Are there any particular adapters that work better? I realize the Rockfish/Best Buy brand isn't exactly known for high performance, but I can see how it would be great for easy media consumption.
Ultimately, I'd like to play games like NOVA 3 on the big screen without a goofy 15' HDMI cable running to my Shield. I love portable gaming, but I'm getting old enough to where tiny screens don't cut the mustard for my eyes the way they used to.
I also wonder which brand miracast adapter that can play the games without any lag but so far i know is all the miracast adapter giving little lag when playing games.
Seems silly but it works,
the best way to have a wireless experience (sort of) with a TV and a Shield is with an Xbox 360 controler.
Get a OTG usb adapter and conect to it the wireless receiver for a xbox 360 and a the controller will work. So now you can have your shield with hdmi cable to the tv and you in your sofa with a xbox wireless controller.
king conan said:
Seems silly but it works,
the best way to have a wireless experience (sort of) with a TV and a Shield is with an Xbox 360 controler.
Get a OTG usb adapter and conect to it the wireless receiver for a xbox 360 and a the controller will work. So now you can have your shield with hdmi cable to the tv and you in your sofa with a xbox wireless controller.
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Not all apps 100% support the wireless version of the xbox controller though even if they support wired controllers (actually a driver issue)
I saw this miracast adapter is recommend by shield
http://www.actiontec.com/products/cat_desc.php?fid=63
Does anyone have it and is that any lag when playing games?
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Not all apps 100% support the wireless version of the xbox controller though even if they support wired controllers (actually a driver issue)
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And pc streaming, does it work with the Xbox controller at least?
jdsemler said:
I picked up the Rockfish adapter from Best Buy after they dropped the price to $29. It works well and was easy to set up with the Shield, but I'm noticing there's a bit of lag between what shows up on the Shield screen versus the TV screen. For example, pull down the notification window, and you see it happen on the TV slightly after you do on the Shield. The beta switch to improve Miracast for gaming seemed to help a little bit, but the delay is still visible.
Are there any particular adapters that work better? I realize the Rockfish/Best Buy brand isn't exactly known for high performance, but I can see how it would be great for easy media consumption.
Ultimately, I'd like to play games like NOVA 3 on the big screen without a goofy 15' HDMI cable running to my Shield. I love portable gaming, but I'm getting old enough to where tiny screens don't cut the mustard for my eyes the way they used to.
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Did they just drop the price recently? The Best Buy site still says it's $80
hurrpancakes said:
Did they just drop the price recently? The Best Buy site still says it's $80
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Yeah, it was only on sale for a few days. The price has gone back up since then.
I think some games do better than others. I originally tried NOVA 3 then some emulators, and it was a terrible experience. I tried Bard's Tale from the Android Market just for kicks, and it was actually very good.
Your mileage may vary.
Been using this http://www.actiontec.com/products/63.php for the past few days. Works great, surfing the web, videos, 1 to 1, Shadowgun : deadzone , and gaming in general are all fantastic. There is a minimal lag when playing online death match, I'm talking a hairline of a millisecond. Overall definitely worth the $69. price!
GatesHD said:
Works great, surfing the web, videos, 1 to 1, Shadowgun : deadzone , and gaming in general are all fantastic. There is a minimal lag when playing online death match, I'm talking a hairline of a millisecond. Overall definitely worth the $69. price!
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No kidding? Damn, I had talked myself out of buying this once already... tell me something bad about it please?
If u have the 69 bux don't hesitate. There is nothing better than shield and mirroring with this box. Just like the official case this is another "must have"
Sent from my Shield
Furyus said:
No kidding? Damn, I had talked myself out of buying this once already... tell me something bad about it please?
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The man in the shop will take your monies in exchange?
While I love the thought of being able to wirelessly display my shield's content on my 60" screen, all this talk about lag is going to keep me on the side lines for a while. I currently have a 10ft. HDMI calble connect to the Mini HDMI cable plugged into the shield. It works great, zero lag and very little pixelation during game play. I do not think you are going to get a better response while playing games than this setup. I have little to no patience for lag duing gameplay. I would love to be able to go cable free, but it seems everyone is experiencing some sort of lag with their miracast connection.
I think I will wait for the wife to start screaming at me about the cable running across the living room floor, before I break down and buy a miracast adapter for my TV.
Das, go to a tiger direct and buy it.. Can always return it. Or buy online. Trust me, I am VERY picky as well. I have a lot of toys and have this mirrored to a Samsung d8000 55" its flawless. The wire is tacky and holding the shield with that little bit of cord weight is a pain. Get it, then gimme a thumbs up!
And BTW:: Shadowgun : Deadzone I am always top 3 even when mirroring.
das7771 said:
While I love the thought of being able to wirelessly display my shield's content on my 60" screen, all this talk about lag is going to keep me on the side lines for a while. I currently have a 10ft. HDMI calble connect to the Mini HDMI cable plugged into the shield. It works great, zero lag and very little pixelation during game play. I do not think you are going to get a better response while playing games than this setup. I have little to no patience for lag duing gameplay. I would love to be able to go cable free, but it seems everyone is experiencing some sort of lag with their miracast connection.
I think I will wait for the wife to start screaming at me about the cable running across the living room floor, before I break down and buy a miracast adapter for my TV.
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GatesHD said:
Das, go to a tiger direct and buy it.. Can always return it. Or buy online. Trust me, I am VERY picky as well. I have a lot of toys and have this mirrored to a Samsung d8000 55" its flawless. The wire is tacky and holding the shield with that little bit of cord weight is a pain. Get it, then gimme a thumbs up!
And BTW:: Shadowgun : Deadzone I am always top 3 even when mirroring.
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I will look online this weekend. I also have a Tiger Direct pretty close. It would be nice not to have to pull my cable out every night. Hopefully I will like it. Thanks for convincing me.... lol
das7771 said:
I will look online this weekend. I also have a Tiger Direct pretty close. It would be nice not to have to pull my cable out every night. Hopefully I will like it. Thanks for convincing me.... lol
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Yah, it always takes a lot of "CONVINCING" for me to continue to dump $$$'s at my toys. Let me know how u like it... The freedom from the dongle hdmi cable, is bliss!
Let me know what you think of it when you bu it I'm going to be looking for one of these types of devices in coming months
Since the screenbeam pro is optimize for shield and i might getting it one later to play games on my big tv. The price for screenbeam pro can consider cheap also.
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I bought the screanbeam pro over the weekend, and I am not a big fan of it. I noticed about a half second lag while doing anything. You also can't stream your pc games using miracast as it uses the wifi signal so you can only stream android games to the tv wirelessly which is a bummer for me. I play more pc games on my shield than android games right now so I really have no use for it.
das7771 said:
I bought the screanbeam pro over the weekend, and I am not a big fan of it. I noticed about a half second lag while doing anything. You also can't stream your pc games using miracast as it uses the wifi signal so you can only stream android games to the tv wirelessly which is a bummer for me. I play more pc games on my shield than android games right now so I really have no use for it.
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So you mean that using the screenbeam pro even playing the android games also have half second lag right but i though it is optimize for the shield and the lag is very less and you will not notice it?

Wireless display / MHL

Hi,
I have tested Z1C with both Miracast dongle and MHL cable.
MHL cable is so called 5 PIN cable. The same one that works with Galaxy S2 and HTC One X.
MHL Cable works just fine.
I have also tested Miracast dongle (iPazzport). It connects slowly in Miracast mode. Screen and sound gets transferred to TV very slowly. It is basically unusable. The same dongle works just fine with Asus HD7 tablet.
DLNA mode is not usable either for video. At least not for HD content. It can be used for sound transfer. But it has minor problems also with sound only connections. I have tested with the same iPazzport HDMI dongle and WD HDTV Live box.
Please share your experience.
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
Gjole86 said:
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
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There is definitely some lag with MHL. I can only express my gut feeling. 50-100 ms, I guess. Is there any good way to measure it?
I am using this adapter:
www.ebay.com/itm/310855110310
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
MHL lag.
First, tested using timer app in phone. Took pictures containing both mobile and plasma screen.
Out of 13 shots:
0.1 s delay - 9 times
0.2 s delay - 2 times
All the rest, 1 shot had 0.1-0.3 s delay (between TV frames), another had 0 - 0.2 s delay (between TV frames again).
Second test.Used http://vimeo.com/12505989 test video.
My laptop (connected through display port->HDMI) was 100% in sync. Z1C was 2-3 frames late (on 24 fps video).
I would say, it is about 120 ms delay. And it is huge for a cable connection IMHO.
Shame, Sony, shame!!!
My other phone Galaxy S Advance did much better job with DLNA sharing.
Which means that there must be a problem with WiFi (either HW or SW).
I am really disappointed. Way too many problems with a device that was meant to be almost a flagship. I wonder if all those problems also exist with Z1 older brother as well. Or did Sony cut some corners again...
Anyone who could explain why it's necessary to switch wifi off then on again when you activate media sharing (DLNA)?
Say you sit at home, your wifi is on ofc and you like to send a pic or a track to your AVR or TV, then why does it say "please turn on wifi" when you activate media sharing...
Gjole86 said:
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
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Official ps3 controller works great for wireless gaming through mhl, i also dont seem to suffer from any lagging? (gaming,streaming etc)
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How about mirror op sender?
Has anyone tried mirror op sender & mirror op presenter on the xperia z1 compact? Seems rather fast just no audio.
Hi. Should it work with any device that has a HDMI input or it has to be with MHL support. Bought Mhl cable from eBay, phone opens Tv launcher but Nothing comes on TV.
got this jus USD3 .working well http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_k...HTC+EVO+Galaxy+S2+i9000+DJNP&_id=380898940150
MIRROR CAST is crap my lg tv has inbuilt receiver. I was soo ashamed at LG showroom when my expensive Z1c was dropping frames etc while not so expensive LG androids mirror casting really good.I hate sony for there crappy WI Fi chips
Hi All.
I've got a passive mhl cable (no external power needed), this: http://www.delock.de/produkte/G_83297/merkmale.html?setLanguage=un
What should I do with it to use with my Z1C? I connected them, but nothing on the tv screen . I missed something?
Thanks

PS3/4 DualShock controller support?

Got a new XA1 Ultra (G3223) and I was hoping to use my old DualShock 3 controller with it for games, especially emulators.
The DS3 does work fine when wired into a PC or my old Moto G running LineageOS, but when I plug the controller into my XA1 Ultra using a Type-C to Type A OTG adapter it doesn't seem to be recognized or work at all.
All other USB devices I've tried work right away when plugged into the the adapter (Logitech wired game controller, flash drives, keyboards, wireless mice)
Has anyone had better success getting any PlayStation controllers to work with the XA1 Ultra? Would rooting make any difference? Does Sony intentionally disable support for their own controllers on some phones for some reason? I know they are officially supported on some Xperia phones, but seems very strange to me that the Logitech controller which is basically a wired DS3 knock-off works perfectly but an actual Sony controller doesn't.
The battery in my DS3 is long dead so no way to try wireless right now, was thinking about maybe buying a replacement battery to be able to use it with the Sixaxis Controller app which I already own, if/when I root my XA1 Ultra that is, but I think you need to wire the controller in to pair it in the first place.. unless that has changed.
Might also just wait and buy the 8bitdo SNES30 Pro when it's released..
I have the same problem, I have been using xperia phones for about 4 years, first a T2 ultra, then a C5 ultra, with those didn't have any trouble using my dualshock4 controller, then I got the Xa1 ultra, and the controller does not work with it. I think it has to do with the fact, that Sony now supports ps4 remote play on Android, but only in their High end phones, I think they (badly) removed the driver in the other phones. That's SO WRONG! probably my next phone won't be a xperia!

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