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[Q] MIssing Feature : on bidy detection in smart lock

on body detection*
Hi, my one m9 is 2.7 weeks old , I setup a lockscreen password and then smartlock , I realised that on body detection is missing .
I waited , just because play services might update itself,
but nothing happened.
HTC one m9 should support it as it has an accelerometer
Tell me what the problem is , is it that I'm using a topic old version of play services , if that's the case , could you advice me as to which one should I install . My current play services version is : 7.0.99(1809214-448)
Just for the info ,my one m7 has on body detection
Thanks in advance ,
sishirbaid
EDIT
it now works!
all you need to do is update google play services to :- Google Play services 7.3.29 (1866531-448)
link down here
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-3-29-1866531-448-android-apk-download/
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That is only for 5.1 I think. We are on 5.0.2 now.

threev said:
That is only for 5.1 I think. We are on 5.0.2 now.
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i think its there.. (it is on mine)
based on this article
http://www.androidcentral.com/smart-lock-body-detection-now-rolling-out-lollipop-devices
under Settings/Security (set a lock type first) then under trusted agents select Smart Lock

I had it on my m8 with 5.0.1 sense 6 but not on my m9. Used it well. Need it back. ?
Sent From My HTC One (M8)

I can confirm that the feature is on the M8 but not the M9. It was a useful feature.

nutmegy said:
i think its there.. (it is on mine)
based on this article
http://www.androidcentral.com/smart-lock-body-detection-now-rolling-out-lollipop-devices
under Settings/Security (set a lock type first) then under trusted agents select Smart Lock
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Weird. I don't have it on my M9 but you do? I had it on my Nexus 5 but I think I assumed it came with 5.1 because they happened at the same time.

HTC support informed me that the developers decided to disable it in Sense 7. No information available on whether it will return with a future update.

mzguy said:
HTC support informed me that the developers decided to disable it in Sense 7. No information available on whether it will return with a future update.
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well, that cant be true AS on- body-detection is a part of google play services , htc cannot modify google play services. well , the innitial release of play service which shipped with our phones could have been modified but i tried installing the exact same version from apkmirror and it still lacked the feature
so it certainly is not blocked by htc. idk what the real problem is , i hope someone gets it quickly, im dying to use it again. :crying:

sishirbaid said:
well, that cant be true AS on- body-detection is a part of google play services , htc cannot modify google play services. well , the innitial release of play service which shipped with our phones could have been modified but i tried installing the exact same version from apkmirror and it still lacked the feature
so it certainly is not blocked by htc. idk what the real problem is , i hope someone gets it quickly, im dying to use it again. :crying:
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It may be part of Google Play Services, but might Google provide a facility for Sense to disable it? HTC Sense skins the Android settings, so perhaps they just didn't give users a means to enable it. I'm not an Android developer though. Is this possible? I don't know which I'd rather have control here. With some things, Google is responsive and fixes issues quickly. With other critical issues, they are still present 6 months after being reported!

mzguy said:
It may be part of Google Play Services, but might Google provide a facility for Sense to disable it? HTC Sense skins the Android settings, so perhaps they just didn't give users a means to enable it. I'm not an Android developer though. Is this possible? I don't know which I'd rather have control here. With some things, Google is responsive and fixes issues quickly. With other critical issues, they are still present 6 months after being reported!
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A new version of google play services is rolling out . Let's wait and see what that one does for our phones.
It is version 7.3 and our device specific IE 448 isn't yet available on apkmirror , will post as to what it does in reguard to on body detection .
NOTE do not install just any version of play services on your device . Install only the following
X.xxx(xxxxxxxxxx-448)

Working NOW
okay, i can confirm, on-body detection is working with the newest play services. namely 7.3.29 (1866531-448)
ill post a link to the file in the original post

What Is Lost by Staying with FireOS instead of Switching to CM?

There is an XDA thread entitled What Is Lost by Moving to CM from FireOS. This thread is the opposite: What is Lost by Staying with FireOS instead of Switching to CM?
Now, obviously, there is a difference in UI, which involves a substantial amount of individual preference. Some people like FireOS, others like CM.
But what concrete things are unavailable that a typical Android user may want?
For example, as of this posting, it appears that Amazon Underground will not (ironically) work on the Amazon Fire Phone.
Which common apps will still not work reliably with FireOS?
Anything else?

That depends. Do you mean to side load Google Play services and the Play Store?

I think FireOS (with root, Google Framework etc) you would keep all Amazon stuff.. on CM, you would lose everything related to the Amazon framework stuff. I personally just stay on root for now.

DePingus said:
That depends. Do you mean to side load Google Play services and the Play Store?
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From everything I'm reading here on XDA, there does not seem to be a reliable way to get it work (and stay working)... or has someone found a way?

rockpaperlizard said:
From everything I'm reading here on XDA, there does not seem to be a reliable way to get it work (and stay working)... or has someone found a way?
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I've had Google services running OK since I installed several months ago. I'm sticking with rooted stock with a third party launcher. IMO this combination works fine and I've pretty much zero annoyances with it.

The threads for the roms are pretty clear on the bugs: lots of camera issues, no mute, no nfc, Play service crashes. Some people are also reporting call drops and wifi issues on certain channels. If you read through the thread you'll notice a few people end up switching back to stock FireOS.
My phone updated to 4.6.4 when I got it so Google Play Services won't work (unless I downgrade to 4.6.3, but I don't want to start flashing stuff just yet). Right now I'm using a combination of F-Droid and apkmirror to sideload apps like FireFox and alternate launchers. I've gone through the pre-installed apps and disabled some of the Fire OS crap like Quick Start, AT&T app, Facebook and Twitter connect, Telemetry junk, etc. Some apps like Silk Browser will not stay disabled (because it does an update and I haven't figured out how to stop it from auto-updating).
Right now I'm REALLY missing Google Inbox.

DePingus said:
Some apps [...] will not stay disabled because it does an update
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Disable the following apps:
• Amazon Device Client Platform
• DCP Platform Contracts
• System Update(s) - yes, there are 2 apps with that description, disable BOTH
This will stop all updates: app updates and OS related OTA updates.

ratbags said:
I've had Google services running OK since I installed several months ago. I'm sticking with rooted stock with a third party launcher. IMO this combination works fine and I've pretty much zero annoyances with it.
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,,,,My phone updated to 4.6.4 when I got it so Google Play Services won't work (unless I downgrade to 4.6.3, but I don't want to start flashing stuff just yet). Right now I'm using a combination of F-Droid and apkmirror to sideload apps like FireFox and alternate launchers.
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This is the part that confuses me... some people say Google Play store is working fine on FireOS and others say it won't work. Can you explain why the different reports? Does it all come down to downgrading to FireOS 4.6.3 and sticking with that version? If so, isn't Stagefright an issue?

rockpaperlizard said:
Can you explain why the different reports? Does it all come down to downgrading to FireOS 4.6.3 and sticking with that version? If so, isn't Stagefright an issue?
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Bottom line: Google Play Store & services...
• ...work well on the "GSM unlocked" OS versions - 35.4.6.1 (461013820) and 35.4.6.3 (463001620).
• ...doomed on the "AT&T" OS versions - 32.4.6.1 (461013320) and 32.4.6.4 (464000420)
• GER version of the OS was problematic as well, tested it myself in the beginning (just as another example)
Using the latest US "GSM unlocked" 4.6.3 (463001620) is the best option, all known Stagefright vulnerabilities are patched in this one*.
And yes, all OS versions can be installed on all devices, netlock is ofc. not affected, multi language support is available.
Using the AT&T verson is a lost cause, because you have to use a work around, e.g. blocking updates of the Play services or uninstalling Play services updates everytime they update.
It's a dead end, because (some) apps will demand a newer version of the Play services, so all the effort is not worth it.
*A little bit of history: Stagefright Patch Round 1: 4.6.3 (463001420) / Stagefright Patch Round 2: 4.6.3 (463001620)

rockpaperlizard said:
This is the part that confuses me... some people say Google Play store is working fine on FireOS and others say it won't work. Can you explain why the different reports? Does it all come down to downgrading to FireOS 4.6.3 and sticking with that version? If so, isn't Stagefright an issue?
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I blocked updates after 461 as I anticipated problems. Stage fright isn't much of an issue because I use a third party SMS app and block auto retrieval of MMS messages. Then again, I never send or receive MMS.

Bingo Bronson said:
Bottom line: Google Play Store & services...
• ...work well on the "GSM unlocked" OS versions - 35.4.6.1 (461013820) and 35.4.6.3 (463001620).
• ...doomed on the "AT&T" OS versions - 32.4.6.1 (461013320) and 32.4.6.4 (464000420)
• GER version of the OS was problematic as well, tested it myself in the beginning (just as another example)
Using the latest US "GSM unlocked" 4.6.3 (463001620) is the best option, all known Stagefright vulnerabilities are patched in this one*.
And yes, all OS versions can be installed on all devices, netlock is ofc. not affected, multi language support is available.
Using the AT&T verson is a lost cause, because you have to use a work around, e.g. blocking updates of the Play services or uninstalling Play services updates everytime they update.
It's a dead end, because (some) apps will demand a newer version of the Play services, so all the effort is not worth it.
*A little bit of history: Stagefright Patch Round 1: 4.6.3 (463001420) / Stagefright Patch Round 2: 4.6.3 (463001620)
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WOW! That is great info! THANK YOU! :good: That should be part of a FAQ (or a FAQ on its own).
Questions:
If you buy an AT&T Fire Phone, and it includes the unlock code, will you still have the problems since it still is the AT&T ROM?
When buying a phone, besides asking the seller to turn it on and tell you the version of the ROM (which they may not do if it is new in the box), how do you know if it is a GSM unlocked version or the AT&T version?
Does the GSM unlocked version of FireOS only auto-update to new GSM unlocked versions, or has Amazon merged everything into one FireOS version at this point?

rockpaperlizard said:
If you buy an AT&T Fire Phone, and it includes the unlock code, will you still have the problems since it still is the AT&T ROM?
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Yes, the unlock only changes some information stored in a chip, eeprom maybe, who knows...
Problems are caused by the ROM, so the best thing to do is:
Receive new phone, boot it up, don't register anything and don't connect to WiFi, check the installed version, if AT&T:
Power off the device, sideload the 4.6.3 image via ADB recovery (there's a link in my sig. "Fire Phone stock recovery: factory images")
When buying a phone, besides asking the seller to turn it on and tell you the version of the ROM (which they may not do if it is new in the box), how do you know if it is a GSM unlocked version or the AT&T version?
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Fortunately, the seller doesn't need to boot it up, on the box is a sticker with basic info like: storage size, OS version, IMEI, UPC... so as long as the seller is honest, it should be clear which version is actually on the device.
Does the GSM unlocked version of FireOS only auto-update to new GSM unlocked versions, or has Amazon merged everything into one FireOS version at this point?
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Each version is independent and it will stay that way, wouldn't make much sense for them to change it and I guess there are some agreements they made with AT&T which have to be met...

Bingo Bronson said:
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Fortunately, the seller doesn't need to boot it up, on the box is a sticker with basic info like: storage size, OS version, IMEI, UPC... so as long as the seller is honest, it should be clear which version is actually on the device.
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Thanks for all the super helpful info! :good:
Do the outside of the boxes indicate sufficient version info to tell if it is AT&T or not?

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Do the outside of the boxes indicate sufficient version info to tell if it is AT&T or not?
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Well, it does read the short version number, like "OS V 3.6.0" but the seller knows ofc. that he bought (e.g.) a pallet full of AT&T devices because it has to be declared on the paperwork.
edit: A 2nd sticker on the other side of the box states: "the device can only be used with a SIM card from T-Mobile" (dark grey font on black background, neat ^^)
I guess they will have a sticker like this in the U.S. for the AT&T variants as well, so that's another good indicator to know "what's in the f***ing box !?!"
The two biggest sellers (regarding Fire Phone) on Ebay (US site of ebay, fer sure) sell the remaining "AT&T UNLOCKED (+ PRIME)".

Bingo Bronson said:
• ...work well on the "GSM unlocked" OS versions - 35.4.6.1 (461013820) and 35.4.6.3 (463001620).
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Forgive me if I missed in this thread... Which versions of the Play Service and Play Store are you referring to?
FWIW, I am running 4.6.4 with Player Services 7.8.99 and Play Store removed. I get "XXX relies on on Google Play services which is not supported on your device" complaints from some apps, but most things continue to work anyway. That is most non-Google apss - Hangouts and YouTube are problematic.

jwernerny said:
Which versions of the Play Services and Play Store are you referring to?
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No version in particular. (All versions I were referring to are Fire OS version numbers)
On the GSM unlocked version, I never had trouble with any version of Play Store & Services, so I just used the latest at that time (updates were also without issues).
I am running 4.6.4 with Play Services 7.8.99 and Play Store removed [...] complaints from some apps, but most things continue to work anyway [...] Hangouts and YouTube are problematic.
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Well, as long as it's working for you and all your favorite apps keep working properly, you don't need to switch. Livin' on the edge!
Speaking of YouTube, if you like to download videos / audio from there:
SnapTube (Received more updates lately, still beta, supports multiple media sites, can download audio only on YT as well)
NewPipe (Very lightweight, watch or download videos, just released this week, still new & buggy = be gentle ^^)

So If you have an ATT phone there is no way to get the software off the unlocked version on it?
I have the ATT and if I need to I will buy an "factory unlocked for learning rooting and installing mods as It has been a couple of three years since I have done this.
I hope the fire phone mod project succeeds and I think it will be great when the bugs get worked out. I enjoy following this but I bought the unlocked ATT because I needed a new smart phone and for $115 with a year of prime...
Ask me about my warranty service from Amazon!!!!!!!! Horror story but thats another forum!!

RandB fan said:
So If you have an ATT phone there is no way to get the software off the unlocked version on it?
[...] but I bought the unlocked ATT because I needed a new smart phone and for $115 with a year of prime...
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Don't worry, there is no "AT&T phone" only an AT&T OS variant.
All Fire Phones are the same, regarding hardware, netlock is no biggie since you already received an unlock code.
You can install the 4.6.3 version on your device, since it is the preferred version when it comes to Google Play Store & services.

Maybe you could explain that process for all of us ATTers? links?

So I don't screw things up...
Hey guys... could you clarify things up a bit so I do things correctly. My case is this:
I've ordered a brand new in box Fire Phone off Ebay that should be arriving in a couple of days, and I know for sure (as it's clearly stated by the seller) that this is the AT&T version. According to the seller they don't open the box, they just provide you the unlock code and you do the whole unlock and activation yourself.
The main reason I ordered this phone is to give it to my kid as his first smartphone but at the same time enjoy the year of Amazon Prime service, since I've been a Prime subscriber for a good 3 years now and I'm up for renewal in November. So essentially my goal is to renew my Prime subscription and give my son a decent Android phone for $35 at the same time.
Based on what I've read I'd be planning initially to keep FireOS to make it stable for him. He also has a Nexus 7 Tablet where he does most of his gaming and school stuff, so I think we can live with FireOS to keep it stable as a phone but still I'd like to install Google Playstore to have access to Google's apps, so I'd guess I'll have to replace the AT&T Rom the Unlocked-GSM FireOS ROM as described by Bingo.
What should be the recommended path for my case?... I don't want to compromise the initial activation so I get the Prime-year with no issues, after that I could play with all the Roms, roots and sideloads that are necessary (and have fun in the process). My concern is that I'd suppose that once I go through the initial activation process for the phone with my Amazon account most probably it will try to update to the latest OS version right?... since these is just a Rom I'd suppose that there should not be issues to let it update and then do the whole safetrap/rooting and sideload the GSM Unlocked Rom?... or should I take a different approach.?
Thanks, George

(Guide) Mate 20 X Chinese version for use outside of China

Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:

jeradjohnso said:
Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.

Jerky_san said:
This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
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You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.

antiochasylum said:
You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
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#_# Thank god.. for a little there I was scared lol. Never bought a china phone before but this phone looks absolutely amazing.. Have a friend coming back from China tmrw so asked them to pick it up for me before they left and they got me the last one in the store that was 8/256gb. Honestly I'm really hoping for a bootloader unlock and linage OS.. I've come to really love their flavor.

Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. Yes there may be a few things you will need to do, because in China they have banned Google and Google Play. These things will need to be installed manually. Hopefully with Android 9 they've made it easier, not harder than previous years.

After installing the Play Store are you good to go then in terms of being able to install whatever you want (Google suite, traditional apps, etc.)?

I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon

It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.

jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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I had just talk with italian store that sell the chinese version and there are these problems written above

Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?

jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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piskr said:
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
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https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu/index.aspx?pageid=1748191&prodid=19236868

(I could be wrong) ... but the shop does not look very reputable,
and it's only 20 euros cheaper than Cect-shop.com

Speaking from my own experience. Usually I installed the Google suite from their brands own app store
They have a specific application that installs the framework, Google contact, play services, play store and maybe a couple more services.
After that pretty much everything works. I'll update more when I got my phone.

I can tell you from my experience that when I bought the Huawei Honor Note 8 it was the china version, and had absolutely no issues with it here in the US. Everything I installed worked, the only thing I did have issues with was I couldnt get HiVoice to work in English (Couldnt find any eng version that would work), Ok Google couldnt work due to Hivoice being the default. The other thing I had to tweak was permissions to getting Google voice to work correctly with Android Auto. All the banking and credit card apps worked fine, obviously the wallet program or other things built in didnt work, but wasnt a deal breaker.

mimmog said:
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
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Thank you for the store contact, after considering pros and cons I've just ordered the phone from this store. What drives my decision are few simple facts:
I talked to the seller and he assured me that there is no problem with Gapps and payment systems (like GPay). As I'd had a Chinese phone before I was confident in his assurance.
I'm fully aware of problems with G Assistant but I use it primarily as phone tool with Android Auto and I believe that I could manage to use voice in that restricted purpose.
I don't use voice with the keyboard, health or fitness apps at all. So any misconduct regarding those apps doesn't worry me. It's the same with whatsapp and telegram - don't use them.
Far more annoying is the integration of lousy swift keyboard and ms translate into the system and connecting those applications with primary functionality (camera, AR..). They are really far behind Gboard and G Translate and therefore not only pretty useless but rather the disturbance in the system. But they are integrated into the global rom as well and you can't get rid of them in any region. So tolerate them and suffer or don't have Huawei at all.
But what really prevail in my decision is the fact that I'm buying the phone from a European seller. This not only abolishes any additional taxes and duties on the set price but also gives me an enforceable European warranty and delivery claims.

once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh

stestesteste said:
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
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Yes but the problem is that not work "ok google", google assistent, gboard with vocal dictate and other (services not application)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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bloodydawn01 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?

mimmog said:
What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
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Maybe, the prize is from Thailand
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Color Os Sucks

First I thought why people hate on this os, I can deal with it, I love stock android but I have also used miui in the past so color os should be fine, but thinking that was a big mistake.
It doesn't support basic android 9 pie features like swipping right to clear banner notifications, a screen on time chart (leave alone digital wellbeing), dark mode of atleast some sort (all flashy white colours, cannot even take the amoled's advantage) and many more. Even a redmi phone with android 6 or 7 with miui 10 has all android 9 features and here's color os lacking even at the basics.
And even its own features are incompliant. You can only create dual apps for select 2-3 apps, unlike in miui where you could clone any app. Also what is this thing with the call menu when you receive a call, its of 2 kinds, one in which you have to swipe up/down to take/end a call and other being you just have to click the call pick/end button. They need to show their customisation skills there, wow.
And though the phone supports L1 liscence and has a hdr capable display it still doesn't support hdr content on netflix or amazon prime. Their answer to that is an osie vision effect feature in settings>display>osie vision effect, which btw to use you have to also enable smart slidebar(in convinience aid) and then go the supported app>pull out smart slidebar and then enable osie effect. All this then only to see that it says 'not supported in current app'.
Now the main reason for my frustration being not able to download files when the phone is locked. I put anything on download, may it be a video in youtube app or a file in chrome or any download manager app, it downloads only till 1-2 mins after the phone is locked. I come after an hour or so and the download is stuck there. How can one not be frustrated then.
So conclusion is to hell with color os, just waiting for a stable custom rom(pixel experience rom for that matter).

prashant2198 said:
First I thought why people hate on this os, I can deal with it, I love stock android but I have also used miui in the past so color os should be fine, but thinking that was a big mistake.
It doesn't support basic android 9 pie features like swipping right to clear banner notifications, a screen on time chart (leave alone digital wellbeing), dark mode of atleast some sort (all flashy white colours, cannot even take the amoled's advantage) and many more. Even a redmi phone with android 6 or 7 with miui 10 has all android 9 features and here's color os lacking even at the basics.
And even its own features are incompliant. You can only create dual apps for select 2-3 apps, unlike in miui where you could clone any app. Also what is this thing with the call menu when you receive a call, its of 2 kinds, one in which you have to swipe up/down to take/end a call and other being you just have to click the call pick/end button. They need to show their customisation skills there, wow.
And though the phone supports L1 liscence and has a hdr capable display it still doesn't support hdr content on netflix or amazon prime. Their answer to that is an osie vision effect feature in settings>display>osie vision effect, which btw to use you have to also enable smart slidebar(in convinience aid) and then go the supported app>pull out smart slidebar and then enable osie effect. All this then only to see that it says 'not supported in current app'.
Now the main reason for my frustration being not able to download files when the phone is locked. I put anything on download, may it be a video in youtube app or a file in chrome or any download manager app, it downloads only till 1-2 mins after the phone is locked. I come after an hour or so and the download is stuck there. How can one not be frustrated then.
So conclusion is to hell with color os, just waiting for a stable custom rom(pixel experience rom for that matter).
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I'm on the same boat too waiting for custom ROMs to arrive. About sot problem i have installed bbs using adb and that works fine.i too can't stand the everything White ui,i had bought many substaratum themes and they're useless as of now.about download thing Allow running in the background for those apps and disable sleep standby optimization in battery menu.realme ceo said dark mode will be available in November last week and dual apps problems too.hope for the best.

vickystarboy said:
I'm on the same boat too waiting for custom ROMs to arrive. About sot problem i have installed bbs using adb and that works fine.i too can't stand the everything White ui,i had bought many substaratum themes and they're useless as of now.about download thing Allow running in the background for those apps and disable sleep standby optimization in battery menu.realme ceo said dark mode will be available in November last week and dual apps problems too.hope for the best.
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Yeah I know few development for this os in the process. For sot I use actiondash. Substratum works mostly on stock android so no use trying them. And yes about the background downloading I tried locking the apps, turning off battery optimizations for them but didn't try turning off sleep mode, will do. Thanks.

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Oppo vivo realme the os that shipped with their devices is cr*p.

Don't know whether the new stock OS realme OS be improved...

Damn, I was thinking of buying this but didnt know the stock ROM was so bad, is it stable at least? snappy?
Also any odds we get an officially supported custom ROM anytime soon?

MGREX said:
Damn, I was thinking of buying this but didnt know the stock ROM was so bad, is it stable at least? snappy?
Also any odds we get an officially supported custom ROM anytime soon?
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There are already stable custom ROMs and more coming very soon.out of India developers got their devices recently.

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There are already stable custom ROMs and more coming very soon.out of India developers got their devices recently.
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Really? which? are they official ports or unofficial?

BTW its getting 10 in february right? what are the odds it wont suck this time?

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BTW its getting 10 in february right? what are the odds it wont suck this time?
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I guess so too. Because they don't have much time to deeply modify the OS.

I'm facing a weird issue on my Realme X. After updating an app on Play Store, I don't see "app updated" confirmation on notification panel. I need to open Play store to check if the app is updated or not. My play store version is 17.8.14. All other notification working like when an update is available, when I install a new app etc. Only I don't get notification confirmation after updating an existing app.

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I'm facing a weird issue on my Realme X. After updating an app on Play Store, I don't see "app updated" confirmation on notification panel. I need to open Play store to check if the app is updated or not. My play store version is 17.8.14. All other notification working like when an update is available, when I install a new app etc. Only I don't get notification confirmation after updating an existing app.
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Clear data of play store & play services, reboot and let those update itself, then update your apps. Also check for if any specific notification is disabled for play store.

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Clear data of play store & play services, reboot and let those update itself, then update your apps. Also check for if any specific notification is disabled for play store.
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This doesn't help. I know all these workarounds and tried already. I have created a post on Google Community and it seems like most people are facing this bug starting from 17.8.14 update. And after 17.9.17 update, it's even worse. There is no notification from Play Store whatsoever (no notification when an update is available, when an update is completed, when a new app is installed successfully). Google has screwed the notification function on Play Store.

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This doesn't help. I know all these workarounds and tried already. I have created a post on Google Community and it seems like most people are facing this bug starting from 17.8.14 update. And after 17.9.17 update, it's even worse. There is no notification from Play Store whatsoever (no notification when an update is available, when an update is completed, when a new app is installed successfully). Google has screwed the notification function on Play Store.
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Well can't say. No issues here.

Black Shark 3 : chinese version -> flash global

Hey,
I ordered chinese Black Shark 3 and I would like to know if I can flash a global ROM on it ?
Which features could not work after flash ?
Any tuto to flash please ?
Anyway, we are ok to say the only thing between a chinese phone with global rom and global phone is B28 ?
Thanks.

apparently there is no such capability on black shark 3
But you can google about Google installer v3 this works to install google play store and framework which enable you to use as usual global

Chinese bs3 have b28 I test here. I just want to know if bs3 global have widevine l1 ?

Was going to write a few things in the pro forum. Essentially it's the same hardware. I have the BS3 Pro. Installed the V3 apk google installer. Things are a bit messy though. I knew it going into it as I've owned Chinese phones before Huawei etc but no experience with Xiaomi/joyui.
+Google play store, services etc install but there are issues. 2 main ones seem to be GPS being an issue on any app that needs it. Google maps just has a gray dot and can't update my location. Have tried a few things from various sites but it seems Joyui 11 has updated things that make the workarounds useless.
+Chrome browser can't sync with my Google account to let me use bookmarks, passwords, history etc. Clicking on the button does nothing.
+WhatsApp notifications are useless. Can't get them to come through unless I'm in the app. Again lots of previous workarounds don't work. Given all the permissions needed and turned off the battery saver option, locked the app in the background etc.
+This isn't anything official and might be obvious but worth noting. I ran it for over a week without installing google services and the battery was awesome but when google was loaded I can see it drain very quickly.
Hoping to get these issues sorted, had hoped it would be easy enough to flash a global rom but that's looking unlikely based on the BS2 success etc. Otherwise a cracking phone but might have to return it due to these issues.

Google apps worked perfectly and too bad Black shark 3 pro unlocking bootloader currently not availabale...
Anybody here unlock the bootloader bs3 ?

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apparently there is no such capability on black shark 3
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Once the roms are available for download, it will be possible.

Same problems with mine with notifications. BS3p
They don't work for ages and then all of a sudden everything is rosey for a few hours, the phone works great, then out of the blue notifications just stop. Like now it's working great WhatsApp, Gmail etc all coming through straight away. In a few hours or a few minutes it'll all go Pete tong.
Then occasionally I'll get 6 notifications all in one hit.
Chrome does work fine though, it's all synced up.
It's very strange.

The only way to get global firmware is hit the door from xiaomi and request this.... china have banned netflix, amazon and whatsapp. This explain why global firmware have widevine L1 and china firmware have L3... and explain too why whatsapp notification never works on china rom, but global works.

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Was going to write a few things in the pro forum. Essentially it's the same hardware. I have the BS3 Pro. Installed the V3 apk google installer. Things are a bit messy though. I knew it going into it as I've owned Chinese phones before Huawei etc but no experience with Xiaomi/joyui.
+Google play store, services etc install but there are issues. 2 main ones seem to be GPS being an issue on any app that needs it. Google maps just has a gray dot and can't update my location. Have tried a few things from various sites but it seems Joyui 11 has updated things that make the workarounds useless.
+Chrome browser can't sync with my Google account to let me use bookmarks, passwords, history etc. Clicking on the button does nothing.
+WhatsApp notifications are useless. Can't get them to come through unless I'm in the app. Again lots of previous workarounds don't work. Given all the permissions needed and turned off the battery saver option, locked the app in the background etc.
+This isn't anything official and might be obvious but worth noting. I ran it for over a week without installing google services and the battery was awesome but when google was loaded I can see it drain very quickly.
Hoping to get these issues sorted, had hoped it would be easy enough to flash a global rom but that's looking unlikely based on the BS2 success etc. Otherwise a cracking phone but might have to return it due to these issues.
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did you have allow all permission on each app? by all permission i mean all permission including the sms etc2 make everything green tick
and put the important apps like whatsapp or gmail to no be affected by miui battery saver (appinfo>batterysaver)
and put autostart on, if you want your device to start the app without you launch it first time every reboot.
be prepare! poor battery oerformance is coming

jbaggs said:
Was going to write a few things in the pro forum. Essentially it's the same hardware. I have the BS3 Pro. Installed the V3 apk google installer. Things are a bit messy though. I knew it going into it as I've owned Chinese phones before Huawei etc but no experience with Xiaomi/joyui.
+Google play store, services etc install but there are issues. 2 main ones seem to be GPS being an issue on any app that needs it. Google maps just has a gray dot and can't update my location. Have tried a few things from various sites but it seems Joyui 11 has updated things that make the workarounds useless.
+Chrome browser can't sync with my Google account to let me use bookmarks, passwords, history etc. Clicking on the button does nothing.
+WhatsApp notifications are useless. Can't get them to come through unless I'm in the app. Again lots of previous workarounds don't work. Given all the permissions needed and turned off the battery saver option, locked the app in the background etc.
+This isn't anything official and might be obvious but worth noting. I ran it for over a week without installing google services and the battery was awesome but when google was loaded I can see it drain very quickly.
Hoping to get these issues sorted, had hoped it would be easy enough to flash a global rom but that's looking unlikely based on the BS2 success etc. Otherwise a cracking phone but might have to return it due to these issues.
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So by chance did you ever get whatsapp up and running? Im having the same problem with my phone. I dont even mind the hit to the battery life because the warp charging means its never down for long but the lack of incomming messages is a dealbreaker for me.

I don't know much this will help but I was able to fix location issues. You must allow location access all the time for Google Play services. Location now works in Google Maps and Uber.

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i have a BS3PRO chinese rom i need it to be Global rom

Hi guys, heard my friend going to release bs3pro global fastboot ver. Please wait for it but not sure when...
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Hey, and for BS3 pls too

For those of you that are interested in doin the conversion yourself there is a thread in the bs3 pro section that has the files and instructions
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...bootloader-t4140001/post83225465#post83225465

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hehk1234 said:
Chinese bs3 have b28 I test here. I just want to know if bs3 global have widevine l1 ?
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Can you upload a twrp backup bro? I want to go back to Chinese version

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