My phone is running 50 or 60 celsius and all I'm doing is downloading apps to set up the device. Is this normal?
It runs around 40 celsius on idle when doing nothing
No, how did you measure that?
switcher said:
No, how did you measure that?
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LOTS of apps available in the play store do that. Accubattery, for one.
Things are now better and I believe thst the heat is a software issue. My phone now runs around 30 when idling at no use and gets to around 40 when downloading apps. CPU is around 50s when watching videos, but battery stays in the 40s. The reason why I believe this to be a software issue is because my temperatures when playing games, doing benchmarks, etc are similar to when I watch videos, which is a much higher workload. I also don't experience too much throttling as I was still able to get approx. 267 000 in Antutu.
Days Tech said:
Things are now better and I believe thst the heat is a software issue. My phone now runs around 30 when idling at no use and gets to around 40 when downloading apps. CPU is around 50s when watching videos, but battery stays in the 40s. The reason why I believe this to be a software issue is because my temperatures when playing games, doing benchmarks, etc are similar to when I watch videos, which is a much higher workload. I also don't experience too much throttling as I was still able to get approx. 267 000 in Antutu.
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You should anticipate that heavy graphics (gaming, movie watching), etc. is going to raise the temperature. That's perfectly normal.
hgoldner said:
You should anticipate that heavy graphics (gaming, movie watching), etc. is going to raise the temperature. That's perfectly normal.
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Yeah, but watching a Youtube vifeo raises it just as much as playing PUBG Mobile on HDR settings or running an Antutu Benchmark. My overall temperatures keep improving, though. Might have been an issue with the data transfer feature.
To update, everything works fine now. It seems I just had a rough start.
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Hi Everyone,
Just wondering how your Nexus 7 runs under the new OS? I notice my device getting higher temperature than before, especially when playing some games. For example, with CPUTEMP and Smash Hit, CPU's temp was around 50-55C on Kitkat but now it is 65-75 on Lollipop.
Would be great if someone can run the same test and see if you get high temperature on this game.
Thanks
I can attest to this myself. I use the same app (on a N5 and N7) and I've noticed that the feel in the hand, while doing normal stuff with the same usage pattern, seemed hotter than normal. So I launch the CPUTEMP app and run the overlay, put the N7 to sleep for 15 minutes to idle. Temp starts around 36 C when first turning on the screen, then it ramps up to 44 - 50. Then while actually using the device, (e.g. surfing the web, email, basic stuff) the temps will go up to the 50s and 60s easily. If I leave it at rest on the homescreen after using the tablet, it idles around the low to mid 40s. While video chatting online with someone (hangouts / skype / etc) it will ramp up to 70s, then 80s, and finally cap out at 95 C. (5 degrees before S4Pro SoC maximum?) A video chat will last 2 - 2.5 hours on a fully charged battery, and the heavy SoC throttling affects the frame rate / responsiveness of both my front / back camera preview during vid chat and the entire OS. Downloading an app or two brings the temp 55 - 61, and then installing them (due to AoT compile) from 61 to 72.
The same goes for my N5 also on Lollipop, to a lesser degree, but nonetheless, it runs higher average temps than I noticed while running KitKat. Both devices appear to drain battery quicker on Lollipop, especially during use. That's not even considering LTE / mobile data use, since these days I'm here at home using WiFi all the time.
lpachuong said:
Hi Everyone,
Just wondering how your Nexus 7 runs under the new OS? I notice my device getting higher temperature than before, especially when playing some games. For example, with CPUTEMP and Smash Hit, CPU's temp was around 50-55C on Kitkat but now it is 65-75 on Lollipop.
Would be great if someone can run the same test and see if you get high temperature on this game.
Thanks
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Yes. You are correct. Even i face the same issue. The device gets heated even on playing candy crush / angry birds which was not the case with kitkat 4.4.4.
Hello. I have noticed that my mi5s has some lag while playing asphalt 8 even at medium settings. After doing some benchmarks with 3DMark I realized that there is a drop in performance at relatively low temperature.
At "Ice storm unlimited" I have a score around 30,000 when the cpu is cool. However when I hit a 36 degrees of Celsius I am around 27,400. Furthermore, if the temperature increase at 39 Celsius , the performance drops even more and 23,500. This gets even worse when I hit 40+ Celsius where the score drops under 20,000 and if I semi-covered it with a cloth to reach higher temp it gets around 16,600 at 45 degrees of Celsius. After that it need to cool down to 33 degrees of Celcius to restore its performance
Needless to say that these temperatures are very easy to reach when you are playing a game. Has anyone noticed something similar? Any suggestions?
I have the 3/64 version with the 7.7.20 developers. Same issues were faced with the 7.7.6. . I have not tested in depth with the global rom but I think I had similar issues (it was only for a day). The room temperature is around 30 degrees of Celsius.
Antretng said:
Hello. I have noticed that my mi5s has some lag while playing asphalt 8 even at medium settings. After doing some benchmarks with 3DMark I realized that there is a drop in performance at relatively low temperature.
At "Ice storm unlimited" I have a score around 30,000 when the cpu is cool. However when I hit a 36 degrees of Celsius I am around 27,400. Furthermore, if the temperature increase at 39 Celsius , the performance drops even more and 23,500. This gets even worse when I hit 40+ Celsius where the score drops under 20,000 and if I semi-covered it with a cloth to reach higher temp it gets around 16,600 at 45 degrees of Celsius. After that it need to cool down to 33 degrees of Celcius to restore its performance
Needless to say that these temperatures are very easy to reach when you are playing a game. Has anyone noticed something similar? Any suggestions?
I have the 3/64 version with the 7.7.20 developers. Same issues were faced with the 7.7.6. . I have not tested in depth with the global rom but I think I had similar issues (it was only for a day). The room temperature is around 30 degrees of Celsius.
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If you're okay with the high temperatures then you could disable all the CPU thermal throttles from any kernel manager app, though you need to be rooted.
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abirftw said:
If you're okay with the high temperatures then you could disable all the CPU thermal throttles from any kernel manager app, though you need to be rooted.
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
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I was thinking something similar but I do not want to disable it fully but just increasing the threshold by 2 or 3 degrees of Celcius. I am rooted but I am not sure how I can do the modification. From some quick search that I have done there should be a file named thermal-mplampla.conf (I do not remember the exact name) where you can modify it but I am not sure by how much should I change the respective lines for just a 2 or 3 degrees increase.
Anyone that have been playing around with thresholds and have any tips or guide before messing around?
Antretng said:
Hello. I have noticed that my mi5s has some lag while playing asphalt 8 even at medium settings. After doing some benchmarks with 3DMark I realized that there is a drop in performance at relatively low temperature.
At "Ice storm unlimited" I have a score around 30,000 when the cpu is cool. However when I hit a 36 degrees of Celsius I am around 27,400. Furthermore, if the temperature increase at 39 Celsius , the performance drops even more and 23,500. This gets even worse when I hit 40+ Celsius where the score drops under 20,000 and if I semi-covered it with a cloth to reach higher temp it gets around 16,600 at 45 degrees of Celsius. After that it need to cool down to 33 degrees of Celcius to restore its performance
Needless to say that these temperatures are very easy to reach when you are playing a game. Has anyone noticed something similar? Any suggestions?
I have the 3/64 version with the 7.7.20 developers. Same issues were faced with the 7.7.6. . I have not tested in depth with the global rom but I think I had similar issues (it was only for a day). The room temperature is around 30 degrees of Celsius.
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First of all, that isn't the CPU temperature but the battery temperature. This phone actually has fantastic thermals due to its aluminum back and well placed SOC. No wonder you're getting throttling, you live in 30°C and you're playing games, what do you expect? Every phone on the face of the earth will throttle to that level. Just saying, your CPU is running probably around 70-80°C while playing intense games. So if you continue to play, it will eventually heat up the rest of the phone.
40°C destroys a batteries lifetime and 45°C everyday will reduce your battery within half a year which is why they throttle phones. Hell my One plus 3 in 30°C weather will throttle like crazy and that's the best phone in terms of throttling. Its normal. Stop playing crappy games like Asphalt 8 in 30°C and go enjoy the sunny weather instead.
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First of all, that isn't the CPU temperature but the battery temperature. This phone actually has fantastic thermals due to its aluminum back and well placed SOC. No wonder you're getting throttling, you live in 30°C and you're playing games, what do you expect? Every phone on the face of the earth will throttle to that level. Just saying, your CPU is running probably around 70-80°C while playing intense games. So if you continue to play, it will eventually heat up the rest of the phone.
40°C destroys a batteries lifetime and 45°C everyday will reduce your battery within half a year which is why they throttle phones. Hell my One plus 3 in 30°C weather will throttle like crazy and that's the best phone in terms of throttling. Its normal. Stop playing crappy games like Asphalt 8 in 30°C and go enjoy the sunny weather instead.
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Actually the truth is somewhere in the middle. I have used an app called "cpu temperature" but if I check the battery temperature it shows exactly the same degrees. So I guess it mistakenly shows the temperature of the battery. Do you have a more reliable app to check cpu temp?
On the other hand, 30 degrees of Celcius is not that high. In the winter usually we do not let the room temperature drop under 20 degrees since we use heating. Nevertheless, I will let it as it is for now and check again after 5 or 6 weeks where the temperature should be cooler.
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Actually the truth is somewhere in the middle. I have used an app called "cpu temperature" but if I check the battery temperature it shows exactly the same degrees. So I guess it mistakenly shows the temperature of the battery. Do you have a more reliable app to check cpu temp?
On the other hand, 30 degrees of Celcius is not that high. In the winter usually we do not let the room temperature drop under 20 degrees since we use heating. Nevertheless, I will let it as it is for now and check again after 5 or 6 weeks where the temperature should be cooler.
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You need a rooted phone to see actual CPU temperature. The best way to do this is get an app called simple system monitor (blue app icon) and go in temperature zones and you'll find a bunch of sensors there. There's a bunch of them that are for the CPU and you kinda have to figure it out yourself (I don't know exactly which one it is, one of the tz_sensor ones) by running a CPU benchmark and finding the ones that show the highest temperature. If you were to remove thermal throttling, and maxed out the CPU and GPU, you will see your CPU hit around 100-110°C and your phones gonna shut down for protection. And I'm in Canada so 30°C is extremely high haha.
Hi All,
I'm using my Z2 since 2017 Jan. I've unlocked the bootloader after a year (non-treble), and since then I've used AEX, Bootleggers etc. Last week after i've switched to carbon rom, I've noticed heating for normal usage. Normal multitasing (Facebook, Chrome, 9gag app) = 45-55 degrees of Celsius. I've switched between a couple roms, no change. This is when I've decided to start over - ZUI 1.9 - bootloader lock then 3.5.X for the baseband, then bootloader unlock, new TWRP, Treble this time. I've tried AEX 5.8 and now ArrowOS, but no change, when I wake up the phone 30-32 C, then when I open something up 40-45-47 very quickly. Is there a way to fix this, or maybe I have HW issue?
Thank you
Try using the sun cooling mod
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/themes/thermal-mod-sun-cooling-7-x-8-xtreble-t3775684
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45-55 degrees of Celsius
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Sorry to contradict, its not heating, its warm, but not something you can call hot.
Facebook, Chrome, 9gag app
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I haven't used 9gag, but both FB and chrome aren't quite resource friendly to start with.
maybe I have HW issue?
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The issue is more or less same here too.. When I am using my Z2 Plus outdoor under direct sun light and Indian summer. Even basic idle phone calls would warm it up. Playing PubG outdoor under sun light feels like holding hot metal and burning my fingers.
Is there a way to fix this
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There are thermal mods available for aggressive throttling of CPU for achieving lower temps. You may also try using a kernel which supports editing on fly, like nameless (using kernel editor app from play store) to underclock your CPU / GPU for less heat.
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Sorry to contradict, its not heating, its warm, but not something you can call hot.
I haven't used 9gag, but both FB and chrome aren't quite resource friendly to start with.
The issue is more or less same here too.. When I am using my Z2 Plus outdoor under direct sun light and Indian summer. Even basic idle phone calls would warm it up. Playing PubG outdoor under sun light feels like holding hot metal and burning my fingers.
There are thermal mods available for aggressive throttling of CPU for achieving lower temps. You may also try using a kernel which supports editing on fly, like nameless (using kernel editor app from play store) to underclock your CPU / GPU for less heat.
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Are you mad or what? 45-55 degree celcius is very hot.. my phone is always under 40 even under sunlight with extensive video playback and browsing and around 45 when playing pubg.. this is what i can call warm.. not 45-55 with light use, i suggest to use characteress's thermal mods to cool down your phone
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Are you mad or what? 45-55 degree celcius is very hot.. my phone is always under 40 with extensive video playback and browsing and around 45 when playing pubg.. this is what i can call warm.. not 45-55 with light use, i suggest to use characteress's thermal mods to cool down your phone
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Pardon me for being a noob, but I am unable to understand how can a software cool down a phone below ambient temperature?
I am from a part of India (Kolkata) where often Ambient temps hit 45c outdoor !!
Some input would be really helpful.
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Pardon me for being a noob, but I am unable to understand how can a software cool down a phone below ambient temperature?
I am from a part of India (Kolkata) where often Ambient temps hit 45c outdoor !!
Some input would be really helpful.
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I agree that ambient temperature plays a big role in device heat management, but software(thermal configurations) play a huge role in regulating temperature, you can experiment yourself, just underclock processor in kernel adiutor to about 1.8 ghz and heating will be reduced significantly, our device has sd820, which is known to have heating issues in many devices. It's a quite powerful proccesor(2.15ghz) , so when all the cores are performing at their highest (like when playing pubg) ,heating is bound to happen . So by underclocing to 1.8 ghz you can reduce it. And regarding thermal config files, they are just files that throttle the performance of the device when it's heating, to cool down, sure your device's performance will take a hit, but this will cool down your phone
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I agree that ambient temperature plays a big role in device heat management, but software(thermal configurations) play a huge role in regulating temperature, you can experiment yourself, just underclock processor in kernel adiutor to about 1.8 ghz and heating will be reduced significantly, our device has sd820, which is known to have heating issues in many devices. It's a quite powerful proccesor(2.15ghz) , so when all the cores are performing at their highest (like when playing pubg) ,heating is bound to happen . So by underclocing to 1.8 ghz you can reduce it. And regarding thermal config files, they are just files that throttle the performance of the device when it's heating, to cool down, sure your device's performance will take a hit, but this will cool down your phone
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Thanks for the long reply. But being a noob it seems I am still unable to find the answer for my question.
How can a software cool down my device below ambient temps?
As far as I know, no software tweak can even push device temps below ambient. And ambient being 45c, device will for sure run a few deg over that. No matter how much tweaking is done.
So not sure how I am "mad" for calling 45-55c range normal !!
Hi there! I have a Galaxy Tab S4, as you can imagine. I use it as my gaming device. The only game I play is Rues Of Survival. And well, Among us, but I don't even take it into consideration as a demanding game.
The tablet is not rooted but I debloated it with adb as far as I could. Android 10 on board.
Probably this crappy game became so poorly optimized that the performance degraded over time.
Now I am at a point where it's pretty unplayable even if I lower the resolution.
Let's see what I have tried so far.
I have checked the usage of CPU, GPU, temp and FPS with the game launcher plug-in. I have an average of 60 FPS with an average CPU usage of 8% and an average GPU usage of 80%. The problem occurs during crowded scenes. The FPS drop to 30, making the whole thing sutter really hard, the CPU usage stays the same and the GPU usage drops to 60%. WHY THE HECK?!
I have tried a couple of different resolutions (the game does not specifically states to how many pixels correspond each d*mn option) with close to no improvements. The graphics got really ugly, obviously.
Should I try to root and disable DVFS? Should I root and lower the resolution of the whole tablet to a normal fullHD with terminal? Should I stop complaining? Should I quit playing? Should I get a new tablet?
It seems pretty absurd that a game that I was able to play on my Galaxy S6, now got so demanding. Or that a 500 euros tablet aged so badly in two years.
Are those 2 free GB of ram out of 4 not enough to handle the game?
I can play it quite flawlessly on my OnePlus Nord. But this is NOT an option. The hardware specs of the two devices should be comparable. What mostly changes are the screen resolution (lower on the OP Nord) and the ram size (double on the OP Nord).
I doesn't try that game, but I played others (pubg (highers settings), stardew valley, this war of mine... etc), and I have not had problems at all. I'm stock. Have you try game booster?
I don't know what to do, every time I play Asphalt 9 or COD Mobile the first games go very well but there comes a time when the CPU reaches 100% generating FPS drops (Despite using an External Cooler)
I mention the random thing, since I can play several times in the same scenario (in the case of Asphalt 9) and the CPU usage reaches 100% in areas where in the previous games it did not reach 50%
What do you recommend to solve this problem?
can be cpu frequency drops in case of overheating.
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I don't know what to do, every time I play Asphalt 9 or COD Mobile the first games go very well but there comes a time when the CPU reaches 100% generating FPS drops (Despite using an External Cooler)
I mention the random thing, since I can play several times in the same scenario (in the case of Asphalt 9) and the CPU usage reaches 100% in areas where in the previous games it did not reach 50%
What do you recommend to solve this problem?
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Maybe your phone is overheating due to high usage of games and check if there are background running apps, it can also consume Ram usage.
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Maybe your phone is overheating due to high usage of games and check if there are background running apps, it can also consume Ram usage.
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When I go to play I close all the applications and limit the background processes, but still excessive CPU usage still happens :/
Also, I play using an external cooler, Which keeps the temperature of the phone below 38°C
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I play using an external cooler, this keeps the phone cool below 38°C :/
I'm running stock Kernel and stock ROM (No Root), should I root and try TDP Disable?