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Impressions & Reviews and thoughts about KitKat + EMUI 2.3! (B510)

I thought, would be nice to talk separetly about the KitKat International B510 firmware. Also we can write reviews.
My FIRST impression about this KitKat update is mixed. I missing a lot of features, like Permission manager for push services?!
Video playing is really bad! Standalone and online also. If i open videos online, and rotate the screen, i only hear the sound but the screen flashing all the time. Also video image slides alot!
Sometimes the launcher freez, when scrolling to another page. At multi-tasking when i close app with gesture, (not clicking on "X") it closes not smoothly.
Permission manager is gone? A lot of apps needed that, to work properly. For example: Facebook Messenger Cheat heads blocked, so i cant use it because of that.
Others? Whats your imressions overall?

benjaminbodoky said:
I thought, would be nice to talk separetly about the KitKat International B510 firmware. Also we can write reviews.
My FIRST impression about this KitKat update is mixed. I missing a lot of features, like Permission manager for push services?!
Video playing is really bad! Standalone and online also. If i open videos online, and rotate the screen, i only hear the sound but the screen flashing all the time. Also video image slides alot!
Sometimes the launcher freez, when scrolling to another page.
Permission manager is gone? A lot of apps needed that, to work properly. For example: Facebook Messenger Cheat heads blocked, so i cant use it because of that.
Others? Whats your imressions overall?
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This is BETA, so it's undestandable to have some issues and missing apps. All apps will be there in the official release.

Is it worth upgrading from B507 to B510 ?

warea said:
Is it worth upgrading from B507 to B510 ?
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Yes. Give it a shot, it is much faster and all the new functions are running very smooth. The performance is much better.

Update this beta version through OTA (I attended to do beta tester).
No problem with standalone and online video, about launcher seems slightly less fluid, I recommend using a theme created for 2.3 EMUI version.
About the permission manager, I suppose it's changed the method of management with the app "phone management"
I love the new keyboard and the new lock screen !

interdan said:
Update this beta version through OTA (I attended to do beta tester).
No problem with standalone and online video, about launcher seems slightly less fluid, I recommend using a theme created for 2.3 EMUI version.
About the permission manager, I suppose it's changed the method of management with the app "phone management"
I love the new keyboard and the new lock screen !
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Yes, im okey with changes, but if it's working well. In phone management you'll not finding any options to set up, permissions neither push options. So it's not a good "change".

benjaminbodoky said:
Yes, im okey with changes, but if it's working well. In phone management you'll not finding any options to set up, permissions neither push options. So it's not a good "change".
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I find instead the new implementation significantly easier to use than before, for example, the widget is really functional and also the new management once you understand how it works, I do not mind at all.
It is true, I have not found the settings about notifications, but the rest is "smarter" :highfive:

for me no problem with video playback ( i sugest hwreset)
and Permission manager is now phone manager... so nothing is missing at all ;p
it runs good as for day of usage ;p

interdan said:
I find instead the new implementation significantly easier to use than before, for example, the widget is really functional and also the new management once you understand how it works, I do not mind at all.
It is true, I have not found the settings about notifications, but the rest is "smarter" :highfive:
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Im curious about future updates. They said, at the end of july they will release the final version. doubt that we will have a newer beta. I hope everybody will gave a feedback to them. The wierd thing, is we have official beta for 2.3 but china didnt.

meilbox said:
for me no problem with video playback ( i sugest hwreset)
and Permission manager is now phone manager... so nothing is missing at all ;p
it runs good as for day of usage ;p
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Half true. Phone manager, is a cleaner + harrasment filter. But without push services settings etc.

benjaminbodoky said:
Half true. Phone manager, is a cleaner + harrasment filter. But without push services settings etc.
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And without Boot Manager & Background Manager.

Cannot be rooted. VRoot fails to root this firmware.

ShahKashif said:
Cannot be rooted. VRoot fails to root this firmware.
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This is not the way to root the device. You must install KK TWRP and that will root your device.

@BeyondTheHorizon (assuming your working for Huawei)
My impressions, after updating from B506 to B510. Note that since i have already used Emui2.3 beta (B014) and Emui 2.0 (official) i will not get into mentioning its improvements over Emui1.6.
- Magazine lockscreen is awesome. But i don't understand why magazine option is enabled only for a selected theme, while a few other theme have weather option on lockscreen, and why not instead have them all for all themes. (Also haven't figured out what the "link" option is within the magazine lockscreen menu).
- Overall there is lags and inconsistency in transition and animation speeds everywhere.
Examples:
> Pulling down notification panel has slower animation then when pulling it back up. While on the other hand there is also a jamming lag when notification panel goes back up.
>Random lags when moving about homscreen pages.
> lag in settings sections when entering each settings item.
- I personally dont like the splitting of drop down panel into two "notification" and "switches". The combined was much better. Even in the split form, there is design inconsistency, for example in the switch panel there is lot of free empty space on the bottom half and there is no point in having a slide down arrow to reveal just one row of switches. Furthermore it would have made sense to have the switches fill the bottom half, as it makes it easier for one hand usage. But i still prefer the the combined form which just two rows of switches and brightness option, while the rest hidden under the slide down.
- Thankfully the weather 4x2 widget is proper size, compared to the huge size on B506 and B014. But the transparent clock widget (first introduced on Honor 3c & 3x) is not yet available on this rom.
- The video player app is missing (and like others mentioned, the permission and startup apps manager, one hand option and navigation bar hiding option is missing too)
- I was hoping for changes in the "customize" section of the theme changer app. The old problem of swiping right/left a lot to get to the end of the lockscreen styles, or icons types, etc remains a burden.
- As someone said, its time to change the grey color of navigation bar. Either allow users to customize it, or have a number of colors that changes according to apps.
- In contacts "favorite" section, there is Chinese fonts.
- I don't think there is a need to have all the google apps pre-installed. Just a couple of them would be enough, while the rest can be downloaded from playstore.
- The water mark option in camera is nice. Cant find the "Cheeze" to take pics option. The photo editor is great and fun too. Video recorded on camera comes out dark. In case of taking selfie pics, once you hit the shoot button, the screen weirdly gets all yellow before taking the pic. Photos looks grainy too. But im no expert on camera, so i could be wrong.
- The Chinese rom had an app center app, and at times the latest version of the Huawei apps would be available on that. Such app updates are not available on this rom.
- The types of transition effects for homescreen keeps decreasing with every new rom update, when instead we should be getting newer ones added.
- The homescreen icons on this rom appear slightly bigger compared to them on the Chinese rom. Can be noticed when applying emui2.0 theme icons on this emui2.3 launcher.

Good and bad in B510
Good
- Magazine lockscreen is really good. I like it, hope more themes are like that.
- I like the splitting of drop down panel into two "notification" and "switches". But I hope they could have a setting to enable/disable it.
- Floating apps are awesome.
- Torch in notifications is very useful.
- Ultra power saving mode changes UI to dark black --> seems convincing that it will save battery life. Overall this rom has decent battery life.
- External SD settings
Bad
- Just hope that when I use other music players it can get the controls on the lock screen. Also, if there was a music slider to skip a few seconds of music was available on lockscreen that would be good.
- Hope that the default launcher could have a drawer. Having all the apps on the screen is messy.
- The radio widget still isn't transparent while the other huawei widgets are. It stands out and looks ugly.
- No permissions manager. It blocks facebook chatheads by default because it draws over other apps. No way to unblock it because permission settings are missing.
- The grey color of navigation bar is horrendous. Hopefully they notice this and they make it black or able to customize.
- Camera pictures look grainy.
- GPS still sucks. Don't know if it is a hardware issue.
- No ART mode
Other
- I don't know what to think about the carrier name. I feel like it's ok, don't hate it or like it.

The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.

miz_pimp said:
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
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At least the cursor is back.
I missed it.
Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk

bokchoi2020 said:
At least the cursor is back.
I missed it.
Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk
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I know, right? It's awesome having it back! [emoji16]
I'm also glad that the day of the week is back in the notification panel.

miz_pimp said:
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
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The carrier name it's something new for this update. And everything else it's really just a matter of opinion. The most important thing is that this ROM must run smooth and fast without any lag when it will be released as official/final. Everything else is just customization that can be added or removed by rooting and installing third party apps.

Also noticed, my phone is really hot, even for simple use. And the battery is really bad on this rom.
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Getting rid of round icons

I can't stand the round icons that the Pixel forces to appear, often times they're just the app icon in an ugly white circle, especially for third party apps. Is there any way at all to disable them?

CarteNoir said:
I can't stand the round icons that the Pixel forces to appear, often times they're just the app icon in an ugly white circle, especially for third party apps. Is there any way at all to disable them?
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I have a framework mod that gives you the old square icons. I'll upload it tonight after work. What security update are you on?

toknitup420 said:
I have a framework mod that gives you the old square icons. I'll upload it tonight after work. What security update are you on?
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July! Thanks

Here it is I had one made up for my mod pack. There's a couple of other tweaks in it. Faster led blink rate and no screen on for plug and unplug of usb cable. Clear launcher data after swapping out apk. You'll need root. Use a root file browser. Then reboot. Then clear launcher data and reboot once more. After that you'll be good to go.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4VEhClrJEWpRWlxVUs5TjZDRFE/view?usp=drivesdk

If you try out the Android O beta 4 from Google that just released, it has 4 icon mod display options baked in....
https://www.google.com/android/beta

Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.

I've never encountered any lag or stutter on the Pixel while running stock. The phone hardware and kernel have been optimized for performance. Are you running any mods on your phone?

toknitup420 said:
Here it is I had one made up for my mod pack. There's a couple of other tweaks in it. Faster led blink rate and no screen on for plug and unplug of usb cable. Clear launcher data after swapping out apk. You'll need root. Use a root file browser. Then reboot. Then clear launcher data and reboot once more. After that you'll be good to go.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4VEhClrJEWpRWlxVUs5TjZDRFE/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thanks for the option! I actually ended up decompiling the framework-res.apk myself and changing the boolean. I think it's good to learn how myself just so I don't have to wait for someone to make a patch every time an OTA gets pushed, but thank you!
SirSparkles said:
If you try out the Android O beta 4 from Google that just released, it has 4 icon mod display options baked in....
https://www.google.com/android/beta
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Yeah, I just didn't wanna go with O due to even worse support for Magisk. Just wanna stay on a stable build for now.
eduardmc said:
Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.
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Thanks for the tip. I use Nova, the problem doesn't necessarily lie with whether or not the launcher supports icon packs. It's more that most icon packs lack support for every single app I have installed, and in that case I want to fall back on the app's default icon. However even if you switch launchers, on the Pixel those icons still get turned into these ugly white circles which is dumb. I have no idea who in Google decided that it was A+ idea to force that on people without leaving in an option to disable it easily. I mean for example I use the Acorn icon pack cause it's pretty af, but it stopped updating about a year ago and doesn't cover many newer apps. I don't wanna stack icon packs when the default icon looks just fine when not in this weird rounded mode that's forced on my phone. It's bizarre that we have to decompile and manually modify a value of a system app just to get rid of a "feature" that's not even slightly polished but is forced on everyone who owns this phone.

eduardmc said:
Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.
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+1 million on this. Lawnchair is like pixel launcher on steroids. My favorite launcher ever. Smooth as hell. Google now integration. All the extra options. You can't go wrong.

eduardmc said:
Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.
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nice! thanks for the suggestion.

CarteNoir said:
Thanks for the option! I actually ended up decompiling the framework-res.apk myself and changing the boolean. I think it's good to learn how myself just so I don't have to wait for someone to make a patch every time an OTA gets pushed, but thank you!
Yeah, I just didn't wanna go with O due to even worse support for Magisk. Just wanna stay on a stable build for now.
Thanks for the tip. I use Nova, the problem doesn't necessarily lie with whether or not the launcher supports icon packs. It's more that most icon packs lack support for every single app I have installed, and in that case I want to fall back on the app's default icon. However even if you switch launchers, on the Pixel those icons still get turned into these ugly white circles which is dumb. I have no idea who in Google decided that it was A+ idea to force that on people without leaving in an option to disable it easily. I mean for example I use the Acorn icon pack cause it's pretty af, but it stopped updating about a year ago and doesn't cover many newer apps. I don't wanna stack icon packs when the default icon looks just fine when not in this weird rounded mode that's forced on my phone. It's bizarre that we have to decompile and manually modify a value of a system app just to get rid of a "feature" that's not even slightly polished but is forced on everyone who owns this phone.
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It seems like Google might have come to the conclusion that forcing round icons on people isn't necessarily a great idea since they added the ability to switch to square icons in Android O.

jhs39 said:
It seems like Google might have come to the conclusion that forcing round icons on people isn't necessarily a great idea since they added the ability to switch to square icons in Android O.
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Where's that option located?

toknitup420 said:
Where's that option located?
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long press on a blank area of your launcher, hit settings, and it's there under change icon shape.

fatapia said:
long press on a blank area of your launcher, hit settings, and it's there under change icon shape.
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Good stuff. I immediately installed lawn chair so I never even looked. Good looks pointing that out.

how to change default launcher on avrl00

157 update allows you to change default launcher here's how I've not messed much cause I'm happy with huawei launcher let me know how others get on with other launchers.. Always force stop huawei launcher when you clear default to begin as on video

Screenshot i missed
You could always try to reset settings so you can choose your launcher , I'm sure people will mess about with it for those interested in using a different launcher
I don't use ADB but I'm sure if you delete huawei launcher you can then set any without any bugs if any

stestesteste said:
157 update allows you to change default launcher here's how I've not messed much cause I'm happy with huawei launcher let me know how others get on with other launchers.. Always force stop huawei launcher when you clear default to begin as on video
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Video link pl.

BB55 said:
Video link pl.
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Okidoki

stestesteste said:
Okidoki
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Hmmm, link not working.
lol, got it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgQFe4CxGNI
Thanks for trying square home :good:

Progress, but I'm still seeing the launcher switch back to The Huawei home launcher every time I try to access recent apps. In Nova I set a gesture to "pinch out" and I get to the recent apps list, then when I swipe up to go home it crashes back to Huawei app. Maybe in the next update this will be fixed. These updates seem to be coming out pretty rapidly.

LxMxFxD said:
Progress, but I'm still seeing the launcher switch back to The Huawei home launcher every time I try to access recent apps. In Nova I set a gesture to "pinch out" and I get to the recent apps list, then when I swipe up to go home it crashes back to Huawei app. Maybe in the next update this will be fixed. These updates seem to be coming out pretty rapidly.
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I wonder if testing would be best then not choose Huawei launcher for me it works but not using it now anyway

stestesteste said:
157 update allows you to change default launcher here's how I've not messed much cause I'm happy with huawei launcher let me know how others get on with other launchers.. Always force stop huawei launcher when you clear default to begin as on video
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Yep - nice that /i can see the default launcher option... Not nice that I can't change it.
Hope that it gets a FIX (yes, Huawei, it is not cool at the moment), before I get my break over December and can have NOVA or other launcher before then - I guess, otherwise, it will be looking at ADB option and deleting the HOME app as per suggestion.

s327374 said:
Yep - nice that /i can see the default launcher option... Not nice that I can't change it.
Hope that it gets a FIX (yes, Huawei, it is not cool at the moment), before I get my break over December and can have NOVA or other launcher before then - I guess, otherwise, it will be looking at ADB option and deleting the HOME app as per suggestion.
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On the plus side, i've had my EVR-TL00 for only 9 days and in that time had THREE updates from Huawei. They must have sold millions of these things in china to get that kind of update frequency. This could in theory be fixed in less than a week.

LxMxFxD said:
On the plus side, i've had my EVR-TL00 for only 9 days and in that time had THREE updates from Huawei. They must have sold millions of these things in china to get that kind of update frequency. This could in theory be fixed in less than a week.
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There is definitely an upside to this phone. I am extremely happy in almost all other aspects of it. As a user in China, my battery life suffers massively form using a vpn constantly. I have never had a phone that could last a whole (real) long day - ie from 7am to 1 or 2 am.
This one delivers. The camera is also a massive upgrade form S8+
It is awesome!
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LxMxFxD said:
Progress, but I'm still seeing the launcher switch back to The Huawei home launcher every time I try to access recent apps. In Nova I set a gesture to "pinch out" and I get to the recent apps list, then when I swipe up to go home it crashes back to Huawei app. Maybe in the next update this will be fixed. These updates seem to be coming out pretty rapidly.
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Was weird, it was working for me initially for like half a day after switching via Twist - but I managed to break it. Ha ha - so XDA of me. Despite it sticking and working in NOVA, the swipe up gesture wouldn't take me back to the home screen and I really liked that. So I then went into gestures on nova settings... and the rest is history, I guess I probably updated some permissions or so forth... changed the gestures through NOVA. Bing-ba-da-boom. No longer works
PLEASE HUAWEI - READ THIS AND GIVE ME MY LAUNCHER FOR XMAS/FESTIVUS/HANUKKAH/DIWALI/HALLOWEEN/ETC.

Well as for me. I removed stock launcher via adb. I like Apex launcher, it's simplicity and the things that it can do. I don't use the default gestures and nav bar. I use Pie Control and I'm happy.

Android 10 navbar issues.

Hey guys.
So I got my OTA android 10 update today.
But after updating I have gotten a whole lot of issues with the navigation bar.
1. The new android 10 gestures does not work on 3rd party launchers, this was however expected.
2. The main problem is that I now have a space where the navbar is on the bottom of my phone, this is Hella annoying and frankly looks like crap.
For example, I am unable to strech widget all the way down, I also can not place icons where I want.
There is also an ugly overlay on the bottom when using Chrome or the playstore for example.
Is this how it is on Samsungs Android 10? Or have I just messed a setting?
I hade the One plus 7 pro running android 10 before this phone, on my one+ I had none of these issues.
(please spare me the comments about how you shouldn't update right away)

Sorry my question or answer dont help the white bar is were some apps say go full screen then closes it down have you thought about doing a back and rest on it like factory reset

webdiddy said:
Hey guys.
So I got my OTA android 10 update today.
But after updating I have gotten a whole lot of issues with the navigation bar.
1. The new android 10 gestures does not work on 3rd party launchers, this was however expected.
2. The main problem is that I now have a space where the navbar is on the bottom of my phone, this is Hella annoying and frankly looks like crap.
For example, I am unable to strech widget all the way down, I also can not place icons where I want.
There is also an ugly overlay on the bottom when using Chrome or the playstore for example.
Is this how it is on Samsungs Android 10? Or have I just messed a setting?
I hade the One plus 7 pro running android 10 before this phone, on my one+ I had none of these issues.
(please spare me the comments about how you shouldn't update right away)
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Depends on the launcher you're using I suppose.
Googles Android Gestures in official Samsung Android 10 don't work well, but I'm having no troubles using the Samsung implementation of Android Gestures with Nova Launcher.

william84 said:
Depends on the launcher you're using I suppose.
Googles Android Gestures in official Samsung Android 10 don't work well, but I'm having no troubles using the Samsung implementation of Android Gestures with Nova Launcher.
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I am using Nova launcher an the navbar section is constant, even though I'm using the old gesture based navigation from android 9.

I have same problem with bar not disappearing from bottom. It is so annoying . Maybe factory reset will help but I don't want to risk, setup of whole system takes me a lot of time. Anybody knows solution for this?

I did a factory reset and now all is working well.

webdiddy said:
I did a factory reset and now all is working well.
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great news! I will do it also.

Mine did the same, but i just applied the stock theme and did the dark mode, now it look normal. no need to reset.

webdiddy said:
I did a factory reset and now all is working well.
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Speaking only from experience with my S10+ and the official Android 10 release, I too had to do a factory reset to clear up a bunch of glitches. We will see what happens once my Note 10+ gets the new version.

Matsunami said:
great news! I will do it also.
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Oh, come on
No needs to factory reset, just go to Settings> Display> Navigation Bar>
and the turn off "Show button to hide keyboard"

msi.1362 said:
Oh, come on
No needs to factory reset, just go to Settings> Display> Navigation Bar>
and the turn off "Show button to hide keyboard"
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I've tried it before.. I'm not dumb It didn't work.

msi.1362 said:
Oh, come on
No needs to factory reset, just go to Settings> Display> Navigation Bar>
and the turn off "Show button to hide keyboard"
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Its always a good idea to perform a factory reset after a major android version update.

Themes were causing this issue for me.
I set navbar ht to 5 with hex installer and it fixed the gap below the keyboard.

Luckily it worked for me out of the box. I'm not a fan as some things become more tedious with this change, but at least I didn't have any issues. Definitely prefer avoiding a reset where possible. Even just using Nova, KLWP, and themes, a reset plus having to set everything back up is annoying af.

webdiddy said:
I am using Nova launcher an the navbar section is constant, even though I'm using the old gesture based navigation from android 9.
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How are you using the old gesture based navigation from Android 9 with Nova launcher? I mean do you use Navigation buttons in Samsung settings can can still use gestures? Please show me how. My swipe gestures to switch between open apps don't work anymore in Android 10 when the navigation buttons are enabled.

Good Lock Task Changer Substitute?

With the introduction of Android 11, Task Changer no longer functions. I despise Android's native iOS-style task switcher. If I wanted my phone to function like an iPhone with iOS gesture garbage and UI copycats I would have bought an iPhone. It's especially annoying when I open the switcher to swipe away the current app only to realize it automatically scrolled to an app beside it and I've instead swiped away the app I wanted to switch to instead closing the current one. Not only does this do the exact opposite of what I wanted, it makes things even worse because I now have to reopen the app I wanted to switch to. Depending on what that is, text fields, progress, etc can be lost and require several minutes to restore. Blah blah you get the picture. It sucks. Many people must agree with me or Task Changer wouldn't exist as a first party app, let alone at all.
Tl;dr and the actual question, Is there anything out there that can be used to substitute the functions of Good Lock's Task Changer until Samsung updates it to work with the latest software? I've looked but I haven't been able to find anything. In addition to this question I've noticed that the navigation gestures don't work at all 70% of the time and require the gesture hint lines to be enabled in order for them to work reliably. Is this related to Good Lock not being updated which would otherwise smooth that out, or is it a general software bug? I only ask because I've had Good Lock's Task Changer active ever since the S8+ Pie update, which was two phones ago, so I've avoided the stock task switcher like the plague until now.

Wait a bit as Samsung should update it soon.
Any more I don't update any OS I like and if I do it's only after lots of positive feedback exists.
Still happily running Pie and W7X64, lol.

blackhawk said:
Wait a bit as Samsung should update it soon.
Any more I don't update any OS I like and if I do it's only after lots of positive feedback exists.
Still happily running Pie and W7X64, lol.
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I used to rock the same boat. I have no idea why I strayed from that methodology this one time but I regret it. Maybe it was the notification history feature, but that's definitely not worth it considering a lot of things are now broken. Honestly with everything that's wrong with it it feels like I was given a beta version of the OS someone marked as stable only because it doesn't kernel panic. Not being able to reliably use the iOS-style navigation gestures that were forced upon me is a pretty big deal. You'd think people testing the software would realize that the single most used - and arguably most important - thing in the OS (back, home, and task switcher swipe-up gesture) doesn't work properly.

WiggleCat said:
I used to rock the same boat. I have no idea why I strayed from that methodology this one time but I regret it. Maybe it was the notification history feature, but that's definitely not worth it considering a lot of things are now broken. Honestly with everything that's wrong with it it feels like I was given a beta version of the OS someone marked as stable only because it doesn't kernel panic. Not being able to reliably use the iOS-style navigation gestures that were forced upon me is a pretty big deal. You'd think people testing the software would realize that the single most used - and arguably most important - thing in the OS (back, home, and task switcher swipe-up gesture) doesn't work properly.
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Android has the Windows Syndrome bad... mixed in with the Apple Swine Flu
Try One Handed Operation+, lol if it loads the new OS that is. It's gestures are reliable.
Low battery, resources use and rock solid stable.

I'm also very frustrated.

When bringing up the app switcher there is no longer an "apps" button that pops up a list of my installed app icons which I can then long press on and drag to open them in split screen, pop up view, or just open them regularly. It's just a blank screen now with only the apps I have open on it. Was that a feature of Good Lock's Task Changer too? I absolutely need that back. Multitasking is a nightmare and a half without it.

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When bringing up the app switcher there is no longer an "apps" button that pops up a list of my installed app icons which I can then long press on and drag to open them in split screen, pop up view, or just open them regularly. It's just a blank screen now with only the apps I have open on it. Was that a feature of Good Lock's Task Changer too? I absolutely need that back. Multitasking is a nightmare and a half without it.
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No, that was a feature of the normal app switcher. I personally don't like the goodlock one. I'm glad I'm on an S10 and still get options lol.

I couldn't agree more with OP. I get that some people want this unproductive annoying deck of card recent apps design, but why on earth isn't there more layouts to choose from in the settings somewhere. I've usually used custom ROMs, and most of them had these settings (I mostly used slim recents and I loved it), but not recently due to some apps' aggressive anti root, anti custom rom policies like banking apps, f***Ing snapchat, etc. I was so happy when I found out about Nice Lock, but then Sammy nagged about updating and I did it to my not-so-big surprise it messed up everything. Sorry I have no good answer here, just had to agree and ventilate.

Task changer is now an option in the Home Up app. Updated today.
But it's not working on my Note 10+ running latest firmware.

DejanSathanas said:
Task changer is now an option in the Home Up app. Updated today.
But it's not working on my Note 10+ running latest firmware.
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I got an update also, and Task Changer now shows in Home Up, but when I click it says to download update. But I just downloaded the update...so idk what's happening.

Fatmonk8 said:
I got an update also, and Task Changer now shows in Home Up, but when I click it says to download update. But I just downloaded the update...so idk what's happening.
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Seems like a error "fix" to task changer.
I downloaded Home up, from apkmirror website Saw 2 x versions available, with today's date.
Installed second update (Version: 2.0.01.11 (200100011)... as it stated there was a fix for Task changer that was force closing.
Big disappointment, as there is only really 2 new options. The normal list one, and the extra ones
Grid and Stack.
Good luck.

DejanSathanas said:
Task changer is now an option in the Home Up app. Updated today.
But it's not working on my Note 10+ running latest firmware.
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See my post below.
Try the updated version up Home Version: 2.0.01.11 (200100011)
Should work now as the updated version fixes Task changer that was force closing.

Just downloaded it. What happened to all the choices? There's only 3 now. I had liked the grid view where I can swipe up and down. Now I can only swipe right.

willcor said:
See my post below.
Try the updated version up Home Version: 2.0.01.11 (200100011)
Should work now as the updated version fixes Task changer that was force closing.
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I downloaded the 2.0.01.11 and still with the same problem. Please download the latest One UI home market place update.

android-incredible said:
I downloaded the 2.0.01.11 and still with the same problem. Please download the latest One UI home market place update.
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In my case I've sideloaded Home up module, from apkMirror website, the updated version of Home up ....version..... " .11" and my task changer is working ok.
See screenshot
Good luck

After sideloading the .11 update it still tells me to install the One UI Home Market update. So Home Up's Task Changer isn't working either.

WiggleCat said:
After sideloading the .11 update it still tells me to install the One UI Home Market update. So Home Up's Task Changer isn't working either.
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head inside google search bar and one ui home latest version scroll down until you see al version and download Samsung One UI Home 12.1.01.15

android-incredible said:
head inside google search bar and one ui home latest version scroll down until you see al version and download Samsung One UI Home 12.1.01.15
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This worked, but as someone pointed out earlier there are only three options for the task changer which don't even change the layout at all. Unfortunately this isn't useful, as it only moves the recent apps closer together or shrinks them. For now I guess it's back to waiting for the task changer app itself to be updated.

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This worked, but as someone pointed out earlier there are only three options for the task changer which don't even change the layout at all. Unfortunately this isn't useful, as it only moves the recent apps closer together or shrinks them. For now I guess it's back to waiting for the task changer app itself to be updated.
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Knowing samsung, I'm afraid that this is it. And it seems to only work reliablywhen you actually use them as a home screen, I use Nova launcher

friguy3 said:
Knowing samsung, I'm afraid that this is it. And it seems to only work reliablywhen you actually use them as a home screen, I use Nova launcher
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Fine Lock says Task Changer will be updated in March.