Peaves from New Tab S4 owner - thoughts appreciated - Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 Questions & Answers

So I'm a (mostly) happy owner of a new Tab S4 SM-T830 256 gb tablet. My old tablet was a 64 gb Tab S2. I was excited about the hardware upgrades. I use my tablet in place of a laptop, and was starting to notice the speed and memory lags.
I'm having problems with three "features"
1) No fingerprint scanner. I wear glasses. Strong glasses. Progressive lenses. I turned on Samsung Pass, but it isn't clear to me if this works with external apps (like my banking app), or just within the Samsung Internet Browser.
2) I use Nova Launcher. On the Tab S2, the dock bar stayed horizontal on the bottom of the display when you rotated the tablet. For the S4 the dock seems to be locked to the short side of the screen.
3) Multiple peaves with the floating navigation bar. I'd like it to lock to the short side of the screen, like hard buttons do. But it stays horizontal. It takes up a lot of expensive real estate - can I add other shortcut buttons to it? In the best of all worlds, could you make it part of the docking bar?
3A) This is the most annoying "feature". I use SwiftKey for my keyboard app. Even though I have the navigation bar set to hide, any time I pull up the keyboard, there is the navigation bar. Right under the space bar. I can't tell you how many times I've missed the space far and hit one of the navigation buttons.
3B) This may be due to the wide-screen format of the tablet, but when you bring up the keyboard in landscape, and add in a cm for the navigation bar, it takes up 3/4 of the screen.
Any other thoughts, tips, tricks for migrating from a Tab S2 to an S4 are appreciated!
Thanks,
Joe

I've been using Samsung Pass on my Note 9 and now on the Tab S4. It seems to work almost anywhere: Apps & Browser. Although, not consistently. Still better than nothing. I also have Lastpass and it is a little annoying that I can't use iris scanner for that, but it gives you the option to use a PIN on the S4, which helps a little.
I just installed an app called simple control (On the Playstore). I have heard it works well for the Nav Bar issue, but I haven't tried it yet.
I can't speak to the other issues though, as I'v only had the Tab for 2 days.

As already mentioned, I also use Lastpass. I disabled Samsung pass for now as with Lastpass I can use on multiple devices. As far as the dock in Nova, not sure what's going on with that. I also find that annoying that it doesn't rotate either, thus I got rid of it. I just disabled it and placed my common icons right on the desktop. Then I added a shortcut icon to open the App Drawer. It rotates, so kind of like having the dock. In regards to the Navigation bar, try Samsung's One Handed Operation App in the Galaxy Store. It's a nice alternative to the Navigation bar. I wasn't sure I would like it at first but now use it exclusively. Thus I also now hide the standard Nav bar.

drjoe1 said:
So I'm a (mostly) happy owner of a new Tab S4 SM-T830 256 gb tablet. My old tablet was a 64 gb Tab S2. I was excited about the hardware upgrades. I use my tablet in place of a laptop, and was starting to notice the speed and memory lags.
I'm having problems with three "features"
1) No fingerprint scanner. I wear glasses. Strong glasses. Progressive lenses. I turned on Samsung Pass, but it isn't clear to me if this works with external apps (like my banking app), or just within the Samsung Internet Browser.
2) I use Nova Launcher. On the Tab S2, the dock bar stayed horizontal on the bottom of the display when you rotated the tablet. For the S4 the dock seems to be locked to the short side of the screen.
3) Multiple peaves with the floating navigation bar. I'd like it to lock to the short side of the screen, like hard buttons do. But it stays horizontal. It takes up a lot of expensive real estate - can I add other shortcut buttons to it? In the best of all worlds, could you make it part of the docking bar?
3A) This is the most annoying "feature". I use SwiftKey for my keyboard app. Even though I have the navigation bar set to hide, any time I pull up the keyboard, there is the navigation bar. Right under the space bar. I can't tell you how many times I've missed the space far and hit one of the navigation buttons.
3B) This may be due to the wide-screen format of the tablet, but when you bring up the keyboard in landscape, and add in a cm for the navigation bar, it takes up 3/4 of the screen.
Any other thoughts, tips, tricks for migrating from a Tab S2 to an S4 are appreciated!
Thanks,
Joe
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I use Samsung Pass & LastPass in conjuction.
So far both works perfectly on any apps & website.
I used to use Nova Launcher but in this Tab S4, I skip it because I think it has everything I need...and I also installed some apps to give more functional effects.
Those apps are: Rotation Control, Blockada & Internet Speed Meter
But if you really want a floating NavBar you can just activate its built in Floating Navbar called Assistant Menu
It's located in the Accessibility>Dexterity and interaction section
A & B : I don't use Swiftkey, but I use Samsung Keyboard in conjuction with Tab S4 Keyboard Cover.
You can resize Samsung Keyboard to your liking and if you use Tab S4 for typing I recommend you buy its Keyboard cover as it is a very good physical keyboard.
I hope my answer helps & if you still have any questions just ask me.

Solution for #2
2) I use Nova Launcher. On the Tab S2, the dock bar stayed horizontal on the bottom of the display when you rotated the tablet. For the S4 the dock seems to be locked to the short side of the screen.
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I managed to solve this with the help of another thread . You need to go to the Display settings for the device and change the zoom to the smallest value. You'll find that the dock will now show at the bottom when you switch to landscape.

Thank you so much! That fixed the dock! I appreciate you taking the time to point out the post I missed!
Take care,
Joe
cryptonium said:
I managed to solve this with the help of another thread . You need to go to the Display settings for the device and change the zoom to the smallest value. You'll find that the dock will now show at the bottom when you switch to landscape.
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Quick controls instead of navigation bar? Just an idea...

Edit: Forget it, s2d2 just made me realize that the newer versions of LMT have integrated exactly the stuff I'm talking about here
First of all, I’m no developer and I don’t even know if this stuff is possible, I just wanted to share my thoughts about an alternative way to navigate through the OS without wasting too much space with the navigation bar.
I use roman’s awesome AOKP ROM at the moment, which has an option included to hide navigation bar. To access home/back/menu/recent, you have to use an app like LMT for example.
Although LMT works quite ok, I think it is not the ideal solution to replace navigation bar. Drawing symbols is not as intuitive as I imagined it to be and it looks kind of weird how the homescreen and many apps react while drawing the symbols.
So I thought about alternatives and I had the following idea:
Would it be possible to create something like the quick controls from the browser for system-wide use? Let's say you swipe up from the bottom of the screen and a set of buttons appears in a half circle like it does in the browser. Of course it should work system-wide and across all apps, just like LMT.
To make it available across all apps, it would be necessary to still reserve a "swipe space" on the bottom to differ between app input and navigation bar access. It could be smaller though since you don't need to show any information on it. Theoretically, a line with a width of one pixel should be enough since the swipe gesture would start outside the screen (which makes me think, maybe this line can be a battery bar at the same time )
I see some advantages in this kind of navigation:
- maximum screen real estate
- a swipe from the bottom would be quicker and more intuitive than drawing symbols (where you have to remember the shape and the starting point for every action)
- smaller chance to trigger navigation buttons accidentally (for example while writing with onscreen keyboard) since the navigation bar is hidden.
- doesn’t get in the way of other swipe actions like scrolling/turning pages/homescreen transition. I can’t think of any situation where you swipe from the bottom of the screen that would interfere with the Quick Navigation.
So developers, do you think something like this is possible? It would be an awesome solution to get the most out of the screen size and still have quick access to the navigation buttons and maybe even custom apps/actions.
If it's not possible or just plain stupid, what are the problems realizing something like this?
Lmt has pie wheel=half circle stuff in your terminology, already implemented...
Nearly two weeks late
s2d4 said:
Lmt has pie wheel=half circle stuff, no need to draw stuff
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Cool, didn't know that So probably my idea is unnecessary after all
qwer23 said:
Cool, didn't know that So probably my idea is unnecessary after all
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be happy
He's adding even more features to it too
s2d4 said:
be happy
He's adding even more features to it too
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I am! Just installed new version and it's awesome! It's pretty much what i wished for ^^

Dual docks in twa_priv's CM10 w/ STG7 enhancements ROM

I apologize if this question is old hat. I really did try searching the forums for it in advance. Perhaps I was formulating the search in such poorly. I'm relatively unfamiliar with Android terminology.
Anyway, so I have a KF running the ROM mentioned in the title, the CM10 w/ STG7 improvements by twa_priv. Latest iteration. My first Android ROM for the KF, though, was "Jandycane." I switched off of it because A. it couldn't run Chrome and B. my device had absolutely abysmal battery life while using it. But Jandycane's Trebuchet launcher had an option that allowed you to have an app dock on both sides of the home screen simultaneously. It also adjusted far better to switching between portrait & landscape.
Does anyone know the "mode" I'm talking about? Or if there's some way to enable it on other ROMs besides JC? Is there a way to independently install a version of Trebuchet within this mod that allows for dual docks? I'd really like to stick with the ROM I'm on except for this one feature.
I don't know if there is a way to have two app docks. I know you can't have the phone app dock (bottom center) and tablet app dock (upper right) together obviously. If you want easy access to your app dock, though, I would recommend using one of the "gestures" that you can use. It is located in the settings under Launcher, and is the last row. I don't have the button for the app dock enabled because I use the swipe down gesture to control opening up my apps.
As far as switching between portrait and landscape, if you have Auto-rotate screen enabled, it should work pretty well. It does lag a little bit, but I don't think there's anyway to get around that. You might try the auto rotation app featured at this website: http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nexus-7/44113-how-get-auto-rotation-nexus-7-home-screen-app.html but I don't know how well it works, so no guarantees.
oh, and I also am running twa_priv's ROM...
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I don't know if there is a way to have two app docks. I know you can't have the phone app dock (bottom center) and tablet app dock (upper right) together obviously. If you want easy access to your app dock, though, I would recommend using one of the "gestures" that you can use. It is located in the settings under Launcher, and is the last row. I don't have the button for the app dock enabled because I use the swipe down gesture to control opening up my apps.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm afraid it's not about access; it's just about having the "dual docks" option Jandycane has, combined with the stability and flexibility of twa_priv's build.
As far as switching between portrait and landscape, if you have Auto-rotate screen enabled, it should work pretty well. It does lag a little bit, but I don't think there's anyway to get around that. You might try the auto rotation app featured at this website: but I don't know how well it works, so no guarantees.
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Lag hasn't been the problem at all. What I was trying to get at is, the way icons rotate with the "dual docks" option makes a lot of sense. The top and bottom in portrait become the left and right in landscape, while the center rows & columns remain in the same positions they would have been otherwise. Things which are situated properly in landscape also look good in portrait, and vice versa. Without dual docks, rotating the icons basically behaves the same way the iPad does; if you set it up in portrait, landscape will look terrible. And vice versa.

[Q] Removing/Changing the apps in the bottom row of the home screen

Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...
maysa said:
Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...
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Just drag the apps on the lower part of your home screen to the upper part where it says delete. then you can go to your apps and drag them to the lower part of your home screen to add them in the dock
If you're saying about the lock screen then I don't know
Hi!
I'm pretty happy with the tab 10.1! With the latest OTA update it runs even smoother! The runtime is great, can handle up to 5 days with daily usage without charging. I received my leather case today, a 360° case.. I can put it horizontal or vertical and it "wakes up" when i open the case.
With that prize its an absolutely recommendation.
Greetings
Gesendet von meinem GT-P5210 mit Tapatalk 4
levihaler said:
Just drag the apps on the lower part of your home screen to the upper part where it says delete. then you can go to your apps and drag them to the lower part of your home screen to add them in the dock
If you're saying about the lock screen then I don't know
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Hi there,
On the default home page, there's two large widgets on the top (weather and news). Below that there's a Google search bar. Below that there's a row of shortcuts. These all behave normally. Below that there's the page/panel indicator (telling you which home page you're on) and then at the bottom there's another row of shortcuts. It's that last, bottom row that I'm having trouble with. They don't seem to act normally - I can't drag them off to delete as normal. They appear to be hardwired. They are not the choice I would select and I want to change them.
Are other people able to delete these shortcuts?
Thanks!
maysa said:
Hi there,
On the default home page, there's two large widgets on the top (weather and news). Below that there's a Google search bar. Below that there's a row of shortcuts. These all behave normally. Below that there's the page/panel indicator (telling you which home page you're on) and then at the bottom there's another row of shortcuts. It's that last, bottom row that I'm having trouble with. They don't seem to act normally - I can't drag them off to delete as normal. They appear to be hardwired. They are not the choice I would select and I want to change them.
Are other people able to delete these shortcuts?
Thanks!
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Can you show us a picture?
maybe installing a launcher / shell will help you organize your tablet's home screen...
Same problem.
[o QUOTE=maysa;44827975]Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem. I'm tired of reading the answer "click and hold then drag it up". It seems to be the stock answer on all forums. They won't move! No matter what I do, the ridiculous row of apps bottom most on the screen is stuck. There's no help for this in the help app/widget. Someone must know how to unlock these darn things. I want to replace them with ones I use regularly.
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maysa said:
Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...
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I have the same problem. I'm tired of reading the answer "click and hold then drag it up". It seems to be the stock answer on all forums. They won't move! No matter what I do, the ridiculous row of apps bottom most on the screen is stuck. There's no help for this in the help app/widget. Someone must know how to unlock these darn things. I want to replace them with ones I use regularly.
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Qranparoger,
Unfortunately that is the correct answer of click and hold and move. I just did it to mine and I can move two of the three apps I have in the bottom row. The only one that cannot move is APPS. My SETTINGS and FIREFOX can both be moved to the main screen above the bottom row.
My tab is rooted, but uses stock rom. There is nothing special about what I have done. I checked settings to see if I had changed a display or security function but I do not see anything. I do remember when I first got the tab that I too was having problems. But I do remember solving it and removing the bottom row (except APPS) and rearranging the icons or deleting the icons.
It think that maybe it might be in the APPLICATION MANAGER in SETTINGS that you "Turn Off" the app and it might vanish from the bottom of the screen. Again, I cannot remember how I did it but it can be done.
Brian D said:
Qranparoger,
Unfortunately that is the correct answer of click and hold and move. I just did it to mine and I can move two of the three apps I have in the bottom row. The only one that cannot move is APPS. My SETTINGS and FIREFOX can both be moved to the main screen above the bottom row.
My tab is rooted, but uses stock rom. There is nothing special about what I have done. I checked settings to see if I had changed a display or security function but I do not see anything. I do remember when I first got the tab that I too was having problems. But I do remember solving it and removing the bottom row (except APPS) and rearranging the icons or deleting the icons.
It think that maybe it might be in the APPLICATION MANAGER in SETTINGS that you "Turn Off" the app and it might vanish from the bottom of the screen. Again, I cannot remember how I did it but it can be done.
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Latest ROM update - still can't change the apps. My tab isn't rooted, and I couldn't be bothered to now. I don't necessarily want to "turn off" the apps, just not use my precious home screen space. Anyway, I solved the problem by buying a Nexus. Yep, free Samsung is just collecting dust, piece of rubbish... Before anyone rages on me, there's a bunch of reasons I didn't like the Samsung, not just this one thing.
maysa said:
Latest ROM update - still can't change the apps. My tab isn't rooted, and I couldn't be bothered to now. I don't necessarily want to "turn off" the apps, just not use my precious home screen space. Anyway, I solved the problem by buying a Nexus. Yep, free Samsung is just collecting dust, piece of rubbish... Before anyone rages on me, there's a bunch of reasons I didn't like the Samsung, not just this one thing.
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Meh... it is all good. Since you got the tab for free, you can send it to me. Give me something to play around with. :laugh::laugh:

[Q] One Handed Usage Tips?

I know that the Note 4 has a "Button Savior"-esque menu with softkeys for app/menu, home, and back. What other tips are there?
Is there anything I can do to access the pull-down notification screen other than by swiping down from the top of the phone?
EDIT: Gosh darnit! Wrong forum
IBNobody said:
I know that the Note 4 has a "Button Savior"-esque menu with softkeys for app/menu, home, and back. What other tips are there?
Is there anything I can do to access the pull-down notification screen other than by swiping down from the top of the phone?
EDIT: Gosh darnit! Wrong forum
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My number one suggestion is to get a FlyGrip which attaches to the back of your phone or case. I can't live without mine, especially on such a large phone. That does more for being able to use the phone one handed than anything else. They're $30 and worth every penny. My second suggestion is to ditch TouchWiz and get another launcher which allows customizable gestures. I use Nova Prime. Worth the money and allows you to pull the notification pulldown with whatever gesture you want, though that only works on your home screen. Another option, if you're rooted, is to use Pie and set that to have a button that triggers the notification pulldown. You could use that instead of the similar idea that Samsung has implemented. One other thing I do is use my S-pen as it gives a longer reach.
Hope some of this was helpful. Just my 2 cents.
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died4u525 said:
My number one suggestion is to get a FlyGrip which attaches to the back of your phone or case. I can't live without mine, especially on such a large phone. That does more for being able to use the phone one handed than anything else. They're $30 and worth every penny. My second suggestion is to ditch TouchWiz and get another launcher which allows customizable gestures. I use Nova Prime. Worth the money and allows you to pull the notification pulldown with whatever gesture you want, though that only works on your home screen. Another option, if you're rooted, is to use Pie and set that to have a button that triggers the notification pulldown. You could use that instead of the similar idea that Samsung has implemented. One other thing I do is use my S-pen as it gives a longer reach.
Hope some of this was helpful. Just my 2 cents.
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Forgot about FlyGrip. Thanks.
I've been using ADB as a launcher for a while and I knew that had the gestures I could set up, but I didn't know if Sammy implemented that yet in Touchwiz. It looks like Pie is a button-savior style of app. I probably need to look into what's available now.
One-Handed Keyboard
My biggest gripe about the Note 4 compared to my Note 3 is that you can no longer be able to select which apps you would like the one-handed keyboard used in.
On my Note 3, I used the one-handed keyboard only on the phone-dialer and calculator, but still liked the full size keyboard for swiping on everything else (like chrome, text, etc.)
However, on the Note 4, you only have the option to turn the one-handed keyboard on or off for use in all apps.
Wish there was a way around this, but haven't found one yet.

Question PSA inner screen dock -> taskbar

So I've never used OneUI even though I had a ZF3. Now with the new Taskbar I'm *trying* to live life without Nova Launcher, because of the Taskbar on the ZF4.
One thing that I didn't realize immediately, is that you can have more apps in your dock on the inner screen than the outer screen, even with mirroring on. The outer screen will show the first 5 apps, and then you can have 3 more on the inner screen that only show when you open the device. The benefit of doing this is of course that those 3 extra apps will show in the taskbar.
Just thought those who are new to the Taskbar might not realize this...
I faced the same dilemma. Love Nova launcher but giving a try to One UI. Task bar interfere when playing clash of clans specially when dropping troops near bottom left corner. Can figure it how to deal with it without deactivating it.
Settings, display, touchbar, then set the show and hide with touch and hold. Then long touch will make it go away
https://imgur.com/a/CvjMt7N
Install goodlock from the samsung store and then the navstar.
You can enable "show task stack" to show the taskbar even while using Nova. It's not exactly the same thing but pretty close.
Set the recents button to split screen to get app search functionality.
Btw I use microsoft launcher which I find as good and sometimes better than Nova
Snopewar said:
Install goodlock from the samsung store and then the navstar.
You can enable "show task stack" to show the taskbar even while using Nova. It's not exactly the same thing but pretty close.
Set the recents button to split screen to get app search functionality.
Btw I use microsoft launcher which I find as good and sometimes better than Nova
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Awesome find! Thanks!!!
BTW I had to restart my phone to get this trick to work (after I enabled Navstar and the "show task stack" option, it didn't initially show up).
mickliq said:
Awesome find! Thanks!!!
BTW I had to restart my phone to get this trick to work (after I enabled Navstar and the "show task stack" option, it didn't initially show up).
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Doesn't work with gedtures though, remember that for those that use them
the_ape said:
Doesn't work with gedtures though, remember that for those that use them
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Correct, you lose the "android" gestures. One-Handed Operation+ still works though to swipe-back from the right edge, as an example.

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