What is the difference between those firmwares? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Questions & Answers

Hello.
I want to flash latest firmware, running Syberia ROM, but I want to know what are the differences between: FW, FW-less and FW-non-arb?
Thanks.

If you are still anti rollback (arb) 3, installing the latest firmware (FW) will update your bootloader, thus you will have arb 4.
Fw less roms come without the firmware. since there is no firmware, no way to trigger ARB.
Fw-non-arb are firmware files without the bootloader part, again no bootloader so arb will not be triggered.

t.hasan1 said:
If you are still anti rollback (arb) 3, installing the latest firmware (FW) will update your bootloader, thus you will have arb 4.
Fw less roms come without the firmware. since there is no firmware, no way to trigger ARB.
Fw-non-arb are firmware files without the bootloader part, again no bootloader so arb will not be triggered.
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Thanks!

t.hasan1 said:
If you are still anti rollback (arb) 3, installing the latest firmware (FW) will update your bootloader, thus you will have arb 4.
Fw less roms come without the firmware. since there is no firmware, no way to trigger ARB.
Fw-non-arb are firmware files without the bootloader part, again no bootloader so arb will not be triggered.
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I have a Redmi Note 5 China with MIUI 9.6.4.0 stable, I want to install some custom rom, liquid remix or havoc, I will download the latest firmware ''MIUI 10 8.12.27 Global / China Beta ROM Firmware'' but I do not know which one do I do? ! FW, FW-less or FW-non-arb?

Dead Pool Brasil said:
I have a Redmi Note 5 China with MIUI 9.6.4.0 stable, I want to install some custom rom, liquid remix or havoc, I will download the latest firmware ''MIUI 10 8.12.27 Global / China Beta ROM Firmware'' but I do not know which one do I do? ! FW, FW-less or FW-non-arb?
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Since 8.12.27 is the newest rom available you can install only FW as this would not trigger ARB (Both 9.6.4.0 and 8.12.27 are ARB4)

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which rom is the best for OTA?

my Mi5s arrived yesterday, system says i'm running MIUI 8.0 Global 8.0 Stable 8.0.3.0 (MAGMIDI) rom,
Is this the best rom for OTA?
Is this the latest official rom avaiable?
are there any better rom options based on MIUI which receives ota updates?
thank you in advance
Matteo
Official global rom's dont updating....now the latest version is China stable 8.2.5.0....but global stable is stayed in 8.0.3.0.....xiaomis not updating GLOBAL OFFICIAL ROM FOR MI5S....but now coming Global developer rom 7.5.18....it is good for ota....but if you dont want dev Rom...you can Root your mi5s and flash Xiaomi.eu rom....its unofficial Global Miui....and very good and stable for use....Xiaomi.eu is based on China Stable latest version but without Chinese content and with more Supported languages....
Except that Xiaomi.eu stopped their OTA support.
James Blode said:
Official global rom's dont updating....now the latest version is China stable 8.2.5.0....but global stable is stayed in 8.0.3.0.....xiaomis not updating GLOBAL OFFICIAL ROM FOR MI5S....but now coming Global developer rom 7.5.18....it is good for ota....but if you dont want dev Rom...you can Root your mi5s and flash Xiaomi.eu rom....its unofficial Global Miui....and very good and stable for use....Xiaomi.eu is based on China Stable latest version but without Chinese content and with more Supported languages....
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except as you're on 8.0.3 you're s**t out of luck - you can't update, you can't root because you can't unlock - unless you use a deep flash cable and MiFlash a different Miui ROM with OEM unlock status available.
then you can unlock, and flash any ROM
aussiepr said:
except as you're on 8.0.3 you're s**t out of luck - you can't update, you can't root because you can't unlock - unless you use a deep flash cable and MiFlash a different Miui ROM with OEM unlock status available.
then you can unlock, and flash any ROM
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Maybe we could unlock bootloader on Global beta?
aussiepr said:
except as you're on 8.0.3 you're s**t out of luck - you can't update, you can't root because you can't unlock - unless you use a deep flash cable and MiFlash a different Miui ROM with OEM unlock status available.
then you can unlock, and flash any ROM
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I was in 8.0.3 and I unlocked my phone...
LeandroFarias said:
I was in 8.0.3 and I unlocked my phone...
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when & how?
LeandroFarias said:
I was in 8.0.3 and I unlocked my phone...
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aussiepr said:
when & how?
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+1 When and how?
Pyntux said:
+1 When and how?
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On the first attempt error occurred in 50%, so I uninstalled the driver and installed again, That's it!
Edit: I used the software from Xiaomi.
I'm using official global 8.2.1.0, is it possible to install the global dev 7.5.18 without error ?
I mean, I tried to do it using TWRP but, again, it got stuck during installation. I know it's possible with a fastboot version, but we don't have it.

Question about arb

Hi, right now I'm in the last pie firmware stable, if I want to downgrade to Oreo last stable. Is the arb will triggered? And my phone bricked?
Thankyou
agustinus321 said:
Hi, right now I'm in the last pie firmware stable, if I want to downgrade to Oreo last stable. Is the arb will triggered? And my phone bricked?
Thankyou
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If the ARB of your current ROM and the ARB of the ROM you are going to flash is same then there will be no issue in downgrade.
The risk involved only when your downgrade to a ROM whose ARB is less than your current ROM.
You can't only flash ROMs older than 9.5.19 global stable and 8.7.6 global beta, so no worries about arb thing.

Unable to flash roms which need pie firmware

Flashing latest builds of most ROMs (ones which need pie firmware) give error 7: with message 'you need to have firmware V10.3.1.PIEMIXM or above as prerequisite to flash this rom'
Since I am on anti-rollback-3, i downloaded and flashed the non-arb version of V10.3.1.PIEMIXM firmware from the stable firmware list, but flashing the rom still gives the same error.
I tried using TWRP 3.3.1 Official, i am using redmi note 5 pro (indian version). Can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong?
avguser23 said:
Just install the normal fully arb firmware and try again
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Is there no way to get pie firmware without getting to anti 4?
You need recovery compatible with Pie FW. Here is unofficial TWRP 3.3.1-1 working fine with Pie FW.

Question is it necessary to flash stock rom before custom rom

is it necessary to flash stock rom before custom rom
No.
Custom ROM is marked by Third-party developer and stock ROM is marked by manufacture.
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
cyanGalaxy said:
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
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Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
NetteyLegend said:
Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
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Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
NetteyLegend said:
Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
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Also is Stock rom is same as global rom? or the stock rom is the miui itself whether it's official or unofficial? or Stock rom is the rom version out of the box the when the phone is open or used first time?
I want to flash other custom roms too
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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I experience it the hard way, but now its ok. M either I dont know how i manage to boot it back to miui even I remove the code and brick my device. Also I check my Anti rollback protection value and fastboot command prompt says =1. Do i need fastboot miui rom that has the same anti rollback value?
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cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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also how do I know my stock rom? I cant remember it.

Question How to update to 12.5.9 ?

Hello,
My lisa came with 12.5.5 out of the box. OTA offers direct to 13.0.2. Is there anyway I can upgrade to 12.5.9 ? I don't want to upgrade to A12 atm, or anytime soon really.
Indian firware if that matters.
I see xiaomi.eu has a version of 12.5.9 which is no longer updated, but lisa isn't listed on the compatible device list.
Thanks
BB
BisonBro said:
Hello,
My lisa came with 12.5.5 out of the box. OTA offers direct to 13.0.2. Is there anyway I can upgrade to 12.5.9 ? I don't want to upgrade to A12 atm, or anytime soon really.
Indian firware if that matters.
I see xiaomi.eu has a version of 12.5.9 which is no longer updated, but lisa isn't listed on the compatible device list.
Thanks
BB
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First of all, some basics (not sure are you aware of):
1) If your phone came with Indian, you can update but only to Indian firmware without unlocking your Bootloader:
Install MIUI Recovery ROM using Stock Recovery and Updater App
Has your Xiaomi phone received a new MIUI update? Then follow this guide to easily install MIUI Recovery ROM using stock recovery and Updater app on Xiaomi devices. Any smartphone user prefers getting…
www.thecustomdroid.com
In that case you will need to download the so-called Recovery or ZIP stock firmware and use the installation as above
2) For anything else, like switching from Indian to Global or EEA (or to Russian or Chinese) - they are all stock ROMs, or switching to Xiaomi.eu - that is not stock ROM, or any other custom (ie, not stock) ROM, you would first have to unlock Bootloader
AFAIK, Xiaomi.eu has no 12.5 for Lisa, only 13.0 - hence not applicable if you insist on 12.5
To switch from Indian to Global or EEA (still stock ROMs), you will need the unlocked Bootloader, the so-called Fastboot or TGZ firmware (and MiFlash tool):
How to Flash Fastboot ROMs on Xiaomi? - xiaomiui
If you are a Xiaomi user and have installed custom ROMs on your device, then you might be wondering how to flash fastboot ROMs on Xiaomi devices. This article
xiaomiui.net
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I don't know where do you see 12.5.9 for Lisa - I had 12.5.8 EEA) , but there should be not much difference
Anyway, install the following app and you can check which versions are available for Lisa (for stock Global, EEA, Indian, etc) or custom Xiaomi.eu:
MIUI Downloader - Apps on Google Play
MIUI upgrade app for Mi users.
play.google.com
It shows the Latest but click on Older and you will see all the previously released (stable) versions.
Btw, under Indian, I don't find 12.5.9, neither under Global or EEA (under Global there are eg 12.5.11 and 12.5.14)
From the app, you can also choose and download Recovery (zip) or Fastboot (tgz) stock ROM for the wanted version - depending on your flashing method as above
thank you very much. I did request to unlock the bootloader in the mi unlock app, but all the custom A11 roms stopped development or moved onto A12, so I didn't see much point in unlocking bootloader.
as i understand, if i am on the indian firmware, i can flash the indian rom without BL unlock. but if BL is unlocked, do i need to switch firmware as well to install say the Global ROM ?
about 12.5.9, i mistook it as the last version before they moved to 13. sorry about that.
BisonBro said:
thank you very much. I did request to unlock the bootloader in the mi unlock app, but all the custom A11 roms stopped development or moved onto A12, so I didn't see much point in unlocking bootloader.
as i understand, if i am on the indian firmware, i can flash the indian rom without BL unlock. but if BL is unlocked, do i need to switch firmware as well to install say the Global ROM ?
about 12.5.9, i mistook it as the last version before they moved to 13. sorry about that.
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When you unlock Bootloader it does not prevent you to update India ROM by stock Recovery method
It just gives you the additional option to switch eg to Global by flashing Fastboot/tgz ROM
Its like, you can always go by foot, but if you have a car, you have the additional option to go by car
Please take your time, Google, read to acquire further knowledge and know-how.
There are tons of guides here on XDA, on the Net, Google videos, etc

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