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I know there are a lot versus threads popping up (OP3 vs Samsung S7, OP3 vs Nexus 6P,.. ), but I would really like to hear your opinions about the ZTE Axon 7.
https://www.zteusa.com/axon7/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7
I'm very interested in the Oneplus 3, but the Axon 7 looks so promising.
I really don't understand why this device isn't getting more attention. (Bad marketing?)
It is on many point familiar with the OP3. But imo has more interesting features.
They are releasing a 6GB/128GB model and a 4GB/64GB model.
- Same Snapdragon 820 CPU
- Same Adreno 530 GPU
- Both are Dual SIM
- Same screen size
Pro's for the ZTE Axon 7
MicroSD support
1440 x 2560 resolution display instead of 1080 x 1920.
20MP camera (can't really compare the quality)
Quality dual front facing speakers
Larger battery (not by much. 3140 vs 3000 mAh)
Pro's for the Oneplus 3
Great community and custom rom support.
Comparison between the two on GSMArena
I also prefer the fingerprint sensor on the back, but I admit this is personal preference.
The only thing I'm afraid of would be the possible lack of a community.
So please tell me. Why should I choose the Oneplus 3?
I personally don't know anything about zte development here on xda(my bad) the specs are look really promising.
But think about it. It's only 140mAh more battery for a 2K display...and don't want to mention the phone's own UI(talking about the optimization)
It is a bad marketing from ZTE, I haven't heard about the device at all....
The sd card is just unnecessary for the 6gb/128gb IMHO.
When is this phone gonna be released? Interested abou the price and want to know if it will have a European version....
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It is a AMOLED display, so battery shouldn't be too affected.. They are aiming for google daydream support after all and a resolution like that is required.
The MicroSD slot is a hybrid SIM-slot. Unnecessary since I will be using 2 sims, and like you said, 128GB is more than enough storage. But useful when I think of flashing a new rom.
If I read correct the release should be somewhere in mid June - begin Juli.
So hopefully not much longer.
I have been searching for a phone for at least 6 months and this phone was on my list.
I compared the OP 3, Axon 7, and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
All very similar in specs besides the screen on ZTE axon 7. Both zenfone 3 d and axon have the front facing speakers, but also both start at a higher price tag for what I consider not important enough features for me to justify the jump.
The oneplus 3 has everything on the inside the other two do, yet an appealing price tag, and developer community is not just supported, but encouraged. This made the phone a win in my book. I can manage fine with a decent display and lose the dual front facing speakers (which I really wanted). It literally depends on how much your willing to spend for what is important to you.
Either way, the ZTE seems to be a fine phone, and is a top contender for anyone. I just didn't want to pay more for a less ram/storage option over what the op3 offered me.
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Keep in mind that the ZTE offers a free extended warranty program 'Passport 2.0'.
A similar warranty program for the OP3 costs you $80 extra.
Axon 7 + Passport 2.0 (2 years warranty and free out-of-warranty repairs): $450
OnePlus3 + On-Guard Plus 24 (2 years protection similar to Passport 2.0): $399 + $80 = $479.
But yeah.. not that I was going to buy that extra warranty for the OP3. So I get your point.
Coming from the 10, a lot of the Axon 7s features really struck a chord with me, like the dual FFS, and their insane attention to detail when it comes to headphone audio.
However, aside from that I can think of like 0 reason to pick it over the 10 or the OP3. Why am I going to OP3/7 after owning a 10? Great question. I just have an obsession with trying new phones. Maybe an addiction.
Not sure either will stay, but I love trying them all.
There is also the ZUK Z2 Pro which has a 5.2" Full HD screen.
Last time I took a look at the ZTE Axon 7 this was what I learned:
- ZTE = active in USA (outside their home markets), Passport 2.0 program applies to USA (afaik), ZTE is looking to expand their activity in EU but so far they don't even really have an active EU site (again afaik).
- I have contacted ZTE about EU availability, they did "not know anything" at the time, ZTE UK even tweeted Q4 release in UK (in 4 months maybe the new nexus is the new star).
twitter.com/ZTE_UK/status/743094792049987584
- The 'normal' Axon 7 has huge top/bottom bezels, the premium (6GB version, touch force, wood inlay, capacitive buttons on the bottom) is again no information on if it would launch in USA/EMEA markets (maybe China only). I was very interested in the premium for a short time but I have serious doubts they won't put a 500+ $/€ price tag on it, which blows past my price point for a "Chinese Brand" phone.
Pretty much the same applies to the Zuk Z2 Pro which is only available in EU region through import (so far) and that raises the price as well.
Now all this was last week, maybe fresh info points to other availability/launch dates.
tl:dr: For USA Axon7 is a OP3 contender, for EU we'll have to wait (for months possibly).
I've tried ZTE in the past, non of the ZTE devices I've owned have ever received updates or timely ones, and the XDA community for these devices just doesn't exist. My dad's Alcatel phone recently died (another garbage brand), and I decided to get him ZTE phone. I knew that I shouldn't have, and I was right, the capacitive keys just stopped working on it, and my dad is currently using it without them until I get him a better phone... Just avoid the following brands BLU, Alcatel, ZTE, ASUS (for smartphones), and the myriad of cheap Chinese brands out there. Either the XDA community will not exist, and/or they do not support their devices, and/or the hardware quality control is piss poor. The only Chinese brands I trust are Oneplus, Xiaomi, and Huawei.
You actually trust xiaomi? The Mi5 is the most flimsy phone I have ever felt lmao...
I should tell you. This phone was given to me for development purposes. 1st time in the pocket... Cracked screen
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You actually trust xiaomi? The Mi5 is the most flimsy phone I have ever felt lmao...
I should tell you. This phone was given to me for development purposes. 1st time in the pocket... Cracked screen
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The only Chinese branded smartphones I've owned from the brands I recommended have been the OPO and the 6P. To this day both of those stand as the only two smartphones that I call the best I've ever had. As far as Xiaomi goes, I've been very happy with their Yi action cam and the random home electronic devices, trinkets, and accessories I've bought from them. Hell, I even use their huge mouse and keyboard pads on my gaming rig now. I've heard many good things about their smartphones, but I trust you in your assessment of them, smartphones are a lot harder to pull off.
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Awesome. Thanks for the feedback!
Guess I'm going to wait a bit longer for the release announcement, but as it looks now, the OP3 looks like the better choice when you're in the EU.
I had to think about aswell and my choice ist the axon 7. Better Display, Better Sound and Better camera. It has am mircosd Slot. Look at this Video. http://youtu.be/anmqPsVYeN0/
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I think a big determining factor for me is well the zte axon 7 be be rootable? We know the one plus 3 will be but many of other zte phones weren't rootable.
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I was on the fringe between buying op3 or waiting for the axon 7. I decided on the op3 for two reasons. , Capacitive buttons, 6gb ram and dev support. OK 3 reasons. I am French American and travel to France a lot. I looked the ZTE for the front speakers and full Eu and USA LTE bands. But i decided on the op3. Excited to receive it.
My reason for OP3 was minimal bloatware, and presece of google services. Now this is kinda something you better dont expect right out of the box with the chinese phones. You can install google services, yes, but there might be some issues here and there. The Axon7 is a beast. But wheb you look at Axon Elite, which is sold for $200 and has not that great support well...
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My reason for OP3 was minimal bloatware, and presece of google services. Now this is kinda something you better dont expect right out of the box with the chinese phones. You can install google services, yes, but there might be some issues here and there. The Axon7 is a beast. But wheb you look at Axon Elite, which is sold for $200 and has not that great support well...
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The axon 7 has google service..
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one huge PRO for the OP3 is OxygenOS, which is near stock vs the touchwize-like modifications on the ZTE Axon
Pro's:
- Really need 2k display ? (Google Daydream also applys for thr Oneplus 3)
- Micro SdCard is for Musik&Pictures&Videos etc. If you have a lot okay (64gb modell). But 64Gb is enougth imo
- More Battery doesn't mean better batterylife (+2K display uses more)
I'll recommend you the OnePlus 3 after using it for a Month.
Pro's for the OnePlus 3:
- Really easy unlocking bootloader (one fastboot command) + warrenty
- Great Dev Community
- Great Stock OS
- Rocking Fingerprintsensor
(- I like the Design more, it just looks more premium imo )
- really big Pro is DASH Charge
OnePlus 3 - OP3Lite | systemless root | xposed v86 ?
I have both and right now, I'd have to say unless you need a SLIGHTLY better camera, or stronger cell reception then your better off with the Axon 7. Speaker, DAC, screen, build and battery are all better on the Axon. in places im seeing signals of -120 to -123db on my Axon, the OnePlus is at -116 to 118. Even with that said, the Axon still takes the win on battery life.
Really good spec and pricing. $399 price tag , however with discount $100 for US resident which bring it down to $299. Just wondering if all the bands work with Tmobile and AT&T
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I'm probably going to grab one, but I need a CM / AOSP rom to be there.
Announcement says:
LTE-A, LTE, HSPA+, HSPA, UMTS, WCDMA, EDGE, GSM
LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/29/30/38
which is everything T-Mobile and AT&T need AFAIK
The product code it's LEX727 not LEX720 as chinese version. Have a new ROM 5.8.0.18S and updated kernel.
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The product code it's LEX727 not LEX720 as chinese version. Have a new ROM 5.8.0.18S and updated kernel.
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Yeah, the product version is different, but as ericerk mentioned, this needs CM/AOSP support (and kernel support) for it to be REALLY worthwhile. Not sure how I feel about just plugging in another chinese skin/ui on a phone, no matter the specs.
Are they releasing a limited amount of the Pro3 for their flash sale?
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has anyone seen the software for the Le Pro 3 phone called EUI 5.8?
im ok with it if it works and is not garbage. The hardware for the flash sale price of $299 is a steal.
otherwise im going with the OnePlus 3T coming out soon which is definitely going to have CM14 ported to it by someone. probably will only cost $399 I hope.
No offense but the device does sound like a good buy. But let's be honest, there to many great phones out in this price range now(Nexus 6p, op3, g4 plus, etc) that worrying about development is kinda dumb when those phones I mentioned offer tons of it already. Then on top of that 6p already on 7.1.1 dev preview, and g4 plus has soak test leak build of 7.0 out now......
Then on top of that the phone is on 6.0 MM....Why not 6.0.1 or especially 7.0?
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No offense but the device does sound like a good buy. But let's be honest, there to many great phones out in this price range now(Nexus 6p, op3, g4 plus, etc) that worrying about development is kinda dumb when those phones I mentioned offer tons of it already. Then on top of that 6p already on 7.1.1 dev preview, and g4 plus has soak test leak build of 7.0 out now......
Then on top of that the phone is on 6.0 MM....Why not 6.0.1 or especially 7.0?
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yea, I think you have a good point. I am starting to lean towards the oneplus phones, as they seem more dev friendly, and the company has no problems releasing source codes eventually for their phones.
today i got mine. and its a really nice and fast phone BUT the contrast and the colours are not the beste.
my last phone was a samsung note 4 and the display is even better.
The official Leeco products for US :
http://us.lemall.com/us/index.html
The Le Pro3 US version offer :
http://us.lemall.com/us/phone/leeco_le_pro3/index.html
Note in specification : Not compatible with CDMA Carriers in U.S. (Verizon/Sprint /Boost )
chinanewby said:
today i got mine. and its a really nice and fast phone BUT the contrast and the colours are not the beste.
my last phone was a samsung note 4 and the display is even better.
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Is yours the US model? I'm asking because I'm curious if it's as easy to bootloader unlock as the chinese model.
oh sorry wrong thread i got the european version
I'm very interested in the Le Pro 3. I currently have a Nexus 6 and have been considering an upgrade. I was about to pull the trigger on the Axon 7 but then I saw the promo for $299. An incredible price for the specifications. The biggest minus is no SDCard and questionable about how much development there will be. On the other hand the price and battery are worth considering. Must be rootable (which this phone is).
I cut my cable and phone off ages ago and rely on netflix / amazon prime for entertainment, so the streaming content might be something I'd be interested in as well.
Unfortunately I have only 1 shot (money is tight) and I'd hate to spend my one shot at an upgrade to get a dud. Decisions decisions....
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Yeah, the product version is different, but as ericerk mentioned, this needs CM/AOSP support (and kernel support) for it to be REALLY worthwhile. Not sure how I feel about just plugging in another chinese skin/ui on a phone, no matter the specs.
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i got the 720 international version of the phone which has dual sime , 6G Ram, 64 Ram, and the EUI5.8 i was told the EUI5.8 for both US and 'internation version' are almost same. as least for the main functionality part of it. here are some screen shoot. i feel it is better than the google's mm 6.0. and some niche control features. see the attached. i have used the phone for only few days. so far, the performance is very good ( lightning fast) and the battery just last ( compare to my old Samsung note 5), and with the built in phone management tool, you wont need other power saving apps. i compared to use greenify or just phone's power management, the battery performances are the same. so i removed the greenify. basically, i noticed there are quiet few firmware update for other LeEco previous models. so hopefully we will get good support for this new model as well. compare to native google phone, i prefer LeEco's control function . press the left bottom, you will get the full control interface which allow you to do few things in one screen. very handy!
I read online somewhere that on the Nov 2nd flash sale there is only an limited amount of devices that qualify for the $299 price
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I read online somewhere that on the Nov 2nd flash sale there is only an limited amount of devices that qualify for the $299 price
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During the Nov. 2 flash sale each customer is limited to 5 devices at the discounted rate, assuming the member has claimed the coupon all 5 times. Also, there is limited stock so be sure to order as soon as you can and if you do happen to miss the sale, don't worry there will be another.
I lost my Nexus 6 to water damage and ordered OnePlus 3, but their supply is very slow, it's taking more than 3 weeks to get shipped, so when Le Pro 3 was launched, I cancelled my OnePlus 3 order and waiting for Nov 2 to order it. With new manufacturer there are so many unknowns, but it this price point I am pretty sure enough people will buy this phone that we will have very good support for this phone on xda.
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I lost my Nexus 6 to water damage and ordered OnePlus 3, but their supply is very slow, it's taking more than 3 weeks to get shipped, so when Le Pro 3 was launched, I cancelled my OnePlus 3 order and waiting for Nov 2 to order it. With new manufacturer there are so many unknowns, but it this price point I am pretty sure enough people will buy this phone that we will have very good support for this phone on xda.
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I wonder if the slow down of shipments is due to the new oneplus 3T coming out soon??
I am not worried about dev support for le pro 3. I am worried about LeEco being lame and never releasing source code. they posted the source code on opensource.le.com but then took it down. Some people are saying the code was bad anyway. devs cant really do anything without the kernal source, its not worth their time and energy in that case.
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It says on the site that supplies are limited. In the Chinese debut they sold out 500,000 units in 15 seconds. I think US release might have less units but also it will have less buyers.
Given the bootloop issue, what phone are people moving to?
Really liked this phone but with LG being unable to fix this reliably ...
Some requirements:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller
- Camera needs to be as good or better
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
I'm really glad someone asked this because I am going through it too with my 5x. What do you guys think about the OnePlus 3T? Honestly, I have own every Nexus model,LG made the 4,5,&5x and those were always my work horses (flashaholic over here) and never had ANY trouble until the 5x.Now the Motorola Nexus 6,yeah they burnt my a** good.My Nexus 6p? FUGHETTABOUTIT!! You can add the F**KN to the front of that.It pulled this same crap months ago,now I have a great paperweight.Right Now it's a debate between the 3T and waiting for the OnePlus 5. I'm open to suggestions folks,if you know a better option, Please chime in!!!!
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I'm really glad someone asked this because I am going through it too with my 5x. What do you guys think about the OnePlus 3T? Honestly, I have own every Nexus model,LG made the 4,5,&5x and those were always my work horses (flashaholic over here) and never had ANY trouble until the 5x.Now the Motorola Nexus 6,yeah they burnt my a** good.My Nexus 6p? FUGHETTABOUTIT!! You can add the F**KN to the front of that.It pulled this same crap months ago,now I have a great paperweight.Right Now it's a debate between the 3T and waiting for the OnePlus 5. I'm open to suggestions folks,if you know a better option, Please chime in!!!!
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OnePlus 3T is too much of a f'ing brick. Way too large for a phone.
I would probably go for the OnePlus X but it's not sold anywhere.
I would go for the Xperia X Compact (23MP camera! and nice size!) but no official Lineago OS support, so sadly a no.
I should clarify that I also require LTE bands 4, 12 (T-Mobile) and maybe even 17 (at&t) ...
You know after looking around the choices if you want good support by aftermarket ROMs and Lineage is either something like the OnePlus or the Honor 5X. (The 6X and the 8 still have some issues in development of custom roms, but the 8 is further along than the 6X). Or spend big bucks and get one of the mainstream Samsung S# devices...
I just bought one of the Honor 5Xs for my wife actually and just went through unlocking the bootloader, and installing Lineage. I must say Im impressed with, for $150 phone its not that far from or Nexus 5X. When I get back home (traveling for work right now) I want to load some games to it and see how it does. For basic tasks it seems great. Battery life has been great for her so far, and build quality is good. Most of important, official Lineage support. So while the specs being a little behind the our 5X had me a little worried, once I had in my hands I was pleasantly surprised. For the price, no complaints.
I feel ya, same here as far as the T-Mobile and AT&T LTE. How about swappa.com on finding a OnePlus X
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Given the bootloop issue, what phone are people moving to?
Really liked this phone but with LG being unable to fix this reliably ...
Some requirements:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller
- Camera needs to be as good or better
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
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Yeah, and no Samsung or Iphone, no Huawei, Xi or ZTE either i'd imagine as they have all had problems worse or similar.
There will be problems with phones as long as new tech is pushed out faster than the tech is ready. I'd go with a Pixel phone which is in essence a HTC device which you apparently don't like.
So, Nokia 3310? It won't fail you.
Honor 8?
Pixel. I really don't like the price tag (actually I hate the idea of a >$500 phone) but after years of rooting and ROMing I have gone hard all the way to the other side. I like the "Google" android experience, being able to easily take updates (since not rooted / unlocked bl), getting regular monthly updates and using Android Pay without hassle. The only thing I miss is Viper4Android. I really wish Google would pay some attention to audio and put in some better processing options.
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Pixel. I really don't like the price tag (actually I hate the idea of a >$500 phone) but after years of rooting and ROMing I have gone hard all the way to the other side. I like the "Google" android experience, being able to easily take updates (since not rooted / unlocked bl), getting regular monthly updates and using Android Pay without hassle. The only thing I miss is Viper4Android. I really wish Google would pay some attention to audio and put in some better processing options.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
Second, after Google selling you a Nexus 5x and then ditching you over to LG with this issue, you really would give them your money again? Fool me once, ... I guess you can be fooled at least 3-5 times.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
Second, after Google selling you a Nexus 5x and then ditching you over to LG with this issue, you really would give them your money again? Fool me once, ... I guess you can be fooled at least 3-5 times.
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Nope. I know all about the boot loops. No issues whatsoever with my 5x. Best value in a phone ever for me @ $249. And from what I've read those that bought from Google store, as I did, aren't getting ditched to LG for support. Also seen plenty of happy Pixel users too. If I still wanted to root/ROM there would be more options fore sure but I don't and I no longer can stand any other phones with their F-ed up UI, bloat and never having updates. As a Fi user I also couldn't be happier never ever having to deal with a major carrier again. Yeah, sure, I'm pissed at Google for abandoning the idea of disruptively affordable devices in the US but I'd still rather deal with them than a carrier, OEM or other reseller. Not fooled even once.
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Not sure on why you are so hell bent on thinking I'm delusional. I'm speaking only of my actual experience not others. Dollar for dollar the 5X is the best I've had. I'm very aware of the boot loop issue and acknowledge it's real. I'm not convinced that it's a manufacturing defect in all 5X phones ever made though. If you have some proof of that I really would be interested in it. Really, I would. Not because I dispute what you say but because I just havn't seen any proof that it's every phone.
Truth is even if I do get the loop I only spent $250 for the thing. I've easily got my money's worth out of it when compared to >$800 other options. Phones are tools not jewels. The cheaper the better. If there's another phone you know of that's not bloated, doesn't have a modded UI, get's security updates every month and get's new Android versions promptly then I'm all ears. Seriously.
If I get a refund for my bricked 5X, I think I might get a Moto X pure.
That is what I bought my wife and its pretty reliable for her (and easy to fix, as usual she hulk smashed the screen after about 3 months and I fixed it no problem)
BUT I am also very interested to see what HMD/Nokia do with their new phones. I have always been a Nokia fan. So it would be nice to get quality hardware with a widely supported OS (my brain thinks back to my old 8800 with Symbian S40)
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Who gave the info that 100% of 5X is defected?
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Pixel is the ONLY replacement for me. But:
1) Is expensive (for a 24 months update device) and we don't know whether is gonna bootloop or not.
2) Still has the same random ****ty compass decalibration that I had with my previous Nexus and only haven't had with my current work's iPhone 5S (that works amazing in any historic centre in places with tiny labyrinth streets like Barcelona). This is the worst part of the Nexus and Pixels. And still using Google Maps. I think Compass issues are one of the Top 3 complains in the Google product forums. And they still haven't fixed it in the hardware or firmware of their products..
3) still lacking the old N5 OIS. But this is compensated with the great HDR+ that only the Nexus / Pixel have. IMO.
4) And the Pixel is still big compared to the iPhones or the old Moto X or Galaxy Nexus.
Vs iPhones this is compensated with the non-physical/virtual buttons that make the phones easier to be used with one hand all the time.
(In fact I find and iPhone 7 with that terrible home button...and some back buttons..and that landscape multitasking....as difficult as a phablet, but still is a perfect size and nice shape to use with one hand)
Now Vs the old Gnexus or Moto X...is still more difficult. I'm one handing a 6P half of my time though... But I still miss the X or Gnexus shape/size.
On the contrary I used a Z5 Compact, smaller phone, and is not more comfortable than a Nexus 5...because of the terrible rectangular shape and is slippery material. So the size of the phone is not what only matters. Material and ergonomic shape is important as well.
Extra: there is still no stock, only released in 5 countries, and I'm not that hyped after so many months since release date. Specially now that I'm got a 6P with a new battery (original Huawei was terrible messed). But still is a huge phone compared to the Pixel.
And my priority:
2 > 1 > 4 > 3
BTW: I've just bought another 5X from Amazon (used) for my GF, at less than 220€. If the Manufactured date is OCT2015 I'll instant return it. Otherwise, I'll intensively try it for 30 days, if it doesn't boot loop I'll take my chances.
For the same price I was considering a Moto G5 with 3GB of RAM (this is the best part of this device) but 16GB Internal and I don't really like the camera, at least in low light, plus the SoC is old and both phones will update to Android O.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
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Most of sites giving Pixel critical reviews are just whining that Google is now charging the prices like Apple, Samsung, or LG. Otherwise, its hardware remains top notch, and the software will be always ahead of competition in terms of security updates and major releases. Some people can make the case that the Samsung Galaxy S8 is now the best Android smartphone. But I suspect that people who are used to stock and lean Android ROMs and speedy software updates would disagree with that.
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andTab said:
Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
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I think someone from Google or LG said that only 15% or so of those devices were affected with the bootloop problem.
The question is though, whom exactly can you trust to make a quality smartphone when the giants like Samsung and LG have been caught with their pants down a few times? You can't trust anyone any more. That's why I personally like the idea of buying a 300USD smartphone, like a Moto G5 Plus (4GB) or a Huawei Honor 8 (when they regularly go on sale). If it bootloops or explodes, it's not a huge loss. If it does not break, then you will end up with a whole lot of spare smartphones after a couple of years.
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If I get a refund for my bricked 5X, I think I might get a Moto X pure.
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Moto X Pure is a good value, but I think the new Moto G5 Plus (4G RAM version) has surpassed it. The problem with Moto X Pure is that Nougat is the last Android update it will ever receive (while Moto G5 Plus was launched with Nougat) and there is no fingerprint sensor. Otherwise, the big and accurate screen as well as stereo speakers still make MXP a compelling phone for a whole lot of people.
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The question is though, whom exactly can you trust to make a quality smartphone when the giants like Samsung and LG have been caught with their pants down a few times? You can't trust anyone any more. That's why I personally like the idea of buying a 300USD smartphone, like a Moto G5 Plus (4GB) or a Huawei Honor 8 (when they regularly go on sale). If it bootloops or explodes, it's not a huge loss. If it does not break, then you will end up with a whole lot of spare smartphones after a couple of years.
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Agree that those aren't bad phones but their size is just a huge turnoff.
Price wise they are about in the right spot: $200 - $400 should be the range for a phone that is better than the N5x at this point.
Like I said in my original post - the requirements for a proper Nexus 5x replacement:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller (ideally probably 4.5 - 5.0" screen with a high screen to body ratio)
- Camera needs to be as good or better as N5x
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
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Agree that those aren't bad phones but their size is just a huge turnoff.
Price wise they are about in the right spot: $200 - $400 should be the range for a phone that is better than the N5x at this point.
Like I said in my original post - the requirements for a proper Nexus 5x replacement:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller (ideally probably 4.5 - 5.0" screen with a high screen to body ratio)
- Camera needs to be as good or better as N5x
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
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Seems that there is no such thing...
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Seems that there is no such thing...
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Lenovo Zuk Z2? It's on sale all the time as well and can be had for as low as 170 USD.
http://gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z2-8125.php
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I have come to a rather sad conclusion that OnePlus devices or the company in general has taken the route of other major smart phone manufacturers. I remember how astonished and excited I was when I purchased the OnePlus 1 then 3t... I also bought the 5t, 6t and 7t... But with every new device I noticed they were getting less dev friendly and more expensive. In am torn because I honestly don't think there is a better skin then OOS... I even like it better then stock. I remember the 3t was like $400 now the 8t is is almost $750. I am curious to know if anyone knows of a good value phone comparable to a OnePlus device or if I should just wait till the OnePlus 9t comes out and then purchase the 8t off swappa for half the price?
I picked up my first oneplus, the 7t, on black friday for $330 (like a lot of others). IMO the best value in any android are those 1 year old devices (new, not used), where stock is being cleared, but you still get a new device (new battery!) with a couple of years support.
Unless I see a smoking deal like the TMobile Pixel 2 over 3 years ago for half price, I'll never buy a phone at launch. Just my 2 cents.
I am curious about the camera and think that will be a reason for a purchase.
Some newer hardware . Faster charger & i hope a faster wireless too.
I hope 5G works for any network/country in the world.
Better camera. On this we need proof.
Too bad that we do not have a square screen, flat, no curved edges . Those round corners on a phone are Horrible.
I jumped ship from OnePlus after having 3T, 5, 6T, 7Pro and 8Pro and went to Samsung Note 20 Ultra (rooted) and now S21 Ultra. But I'm missing the ease of root and the easily unlockable bootloader. Don't get me wrong for the S21 Ultra is a great device but without root and all the bootloader shenanigans that Samsung is constantly bringing to the table I'm going back to OnePlus with the 9 Pro. Already got a case for it (LOL). Camera is important but not a deal breaker unless it's totally trash which I don't expect this one to be. I obviously enjoyed previous OnePlus devices and expect this to be no different.
I'll be upgrading to it for All of the above reasons and then some! FYI latest news:
OnePlus 9, OnePlus 9 Pro, and OnePlus 9R buyer's guide: What you need to know
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I'll get one primarily to test, to compare with other top tiers..
For me, it's upgrade time. LGV40 has been great other than the total lack of updates from LG.
Have always been interested in OP, but was hesitant to buy any Chinese maker (privacy wise).
I've been looking for a while for a device to get me off iOS. I need a phone that has a good camera (which they seem to try to sell hard this time around, promising) and IP rating (which the 8 Pro had so I'd assume that would continue to the 9 Pro). So long as LineageOS support springs up for it after a bit I'm def switching
I plan on picking one up. I've held onto my OnePlus 7 Pro for longer than most phones over the last ten years or so. It's time to upgrade. I'll pass the OP7Pro on to my fiancee' and she'll pass her OnePlus 6 down to her son to replace his OP5. And so the cycle will continue.
I'm curious about the camera, but I'm not all-in on it yet. I've always thought OP to have decent, but not the best cameras. They've said that they've focused on the camera in the past, only to have "good enough" be the result. We'll see with the Hasselblad partnership. Everything else is what I'm looking forward to and expecting to be excellent. Speed, screen, finally a 5G phone, WiFi 6 (hopefully?). A truly great camera would just be the icing on top.
I'll buy it for the fast charge and test your camera, but where can I buy the unlocked OP 9 pro? Or will it only come to T-Mobile?
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I'll buy it for the fast charge and test your camera, but where can I buy the unlocked OP 9 pro? Or will it only come to T-Mobile?
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You can buy unlocked models directly from OnePlus.com
As someone else stated that they've held on to the oneplus 7pro longer than others in the last 10years so have I, I've felt that the 7pro has been more than adequate in all aspects to go this long and not feel like I'm missing out on any thing 'new' and I could probably go another year and say the same thing but I think my battery is starting to degrade and doesn't last near as long as it used to so I've decided that it's time to move on and I think that the 9pro will be a good upgrade, I'm not so worried about the camera as most are (I've never been) as long as it takes pictures as good as the 7pro I'll be happy in that aspect.
Ive been a oneplus user since the oneplus one (when you had to get an invite) and been happy with every device that I've purchased from them but I've noticed that I can go two years now easily without upgrading because the innovation of new features , faster phones etc is decreasing more than before so I'm sure this will be my phone for the next two-three years.
3T... 6... 9. I try the pro in the hope for an active community. I hope the curved screen is not to sensitive against impact and usage as in holding and using without touching always the edge.
I forgot to mention the best display on the market.
50w wireless charging (Awesome) ! 65w wired charging also great.
It's very sad to see that oneplus, stopped be the Robin hood in this world.
The prices are to expensive, just like all those phones.
And as usual... It's the same company as oppo, so it's going to be almost the same as oppo find x3 models.
BBK electronics make OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, Realme, Iqoo (a sub-brand of Vivo) Iqoo is
Vivo's sub brand, set to enter India with 5G smartphone.
Oppo and Oneplus phones are very similar. Vooc and Dash, now Warp charging, same, very similar.
Oppo is 2-300 euro more than OnePlus. Find x3 Pro is 1250 euro.
Oppo have different market/customers than OnePlus.
If I could pre-order it now I would do it, because it is the only normal android device that exists right now. You can root without loose the warranty, xda support, high end specs. I cant wait.
Currently happy OnePlus 8 owner. I have owned OP6, OP7Pro and OP8. I could have stay with the 7 pro easily, these days you can easily wait 2 to 3 years. I don't think I will upgrade to the OnePlus 9, it is simply not "needed". But we will see when it gets launched
I will wait for the successor of the 9, because I hope they will again fall back to a flat screen like the 8T, I personally hate the curved screens, because it is totally difficult to find a screen protector for it and real advantages it also has not. Where I have even considered in the meantime to sell my 8T and switch to the Pixel 5, but wait....
I will hold on for some review if Hasselblad do some magic to photo department of the phone. (Fun fact, I just know DJI bought Hasselblad few years ago hehehe.)
Last one plus phone for me was 7,I will try 9 this time