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[Q] Question on installing 2nd gen os on 1st gen Kindle Fire.

Hi. I checked the Amazon site, and seeing as my Kindle isn't getting the 2nd generation os anytime soon, I saw you could download the package. Now the software package was labeled under Kindle Fire 2nd Gen. But it said you can drag and drop to the kindle software folder. Does this work over all devices, and if so, can I install that 2nd gen update on my 1st gen? Thanks.

I installed the AOSP version of Jelly Bean in hopes that I could fake the system into looking like a generation 2. There's something about getting the build prop from the generation 2 ROM but I can't figure it out. Is there anyone out there that can create a replicated generation 2 build. This wold allow us to use the app store as a kindle and not an Android tablet.
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Why not just purchase a 2nd gen Kindle? The hardware diiferences between 1st and 2nd are many.

guitarman2010 said:
Why not just purchase a 2nd gen Kindle? The hardware diiferences between 1st and 2nd are many.
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I don't feel like spending another $200 when I already did for the one I bought last year.

[Q] KF1 or KF2

Hi all i just got my KF but i dont know what kind of KF it is, the System Version is 10.2.1_user_2030020
my uncle said they bought this kindle at the Black Friday sale last year also how do i check if its GB or ICS? thank you

Kindle Fire 2nd Generation
whisper13 said:
Hi all i just got my KF but i dont know what kind of KF it is, the System Version is 10.2.1_user_2030020
my uncle said they bought this kindle at the Black Friday sale last year also how do i check if its GB or ICS? thank you
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Hey, due to your System Version, you have the Kindle Fire 2nd Generation, Amazon actually doesn't make the 1st generations anymore. You should have a 8 GB storage for you KF 2nd generation.
Hope I helped,
~Carly Belle

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Hey, due to your System Version, you have the Kindle Fire 2nd Generation, Amazon actually doesn't make the 1st generations anymore. You should have a 8 GB storage for you KF 2nd generation.
Hope I helped,
~Carly Belle
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thank you! guess im going to KF2 forums

A little confused

I'm happy to be a a member of the forum and I'm new here.I own a kindle fire hdx 8.9,but I don't know whether there is a cm11 rom for it.Because I didn't see the word ‘hdx’.And what is the meaning of 'Kindle Fire 2‘？I hope someone can answer my questions.

Kindle Fire first gen
Kindle Fire 2nd gen (HD)
Kindle fire 3rd gen (HDX)
To complicate things a bit more, the 7" version of the first gen 7" Fire was re-released in 2012 with slightly upgraded HW and a new OS, this is called the Kindle Fire 2. The 7" version of the 2nd gen HD was re-released last year as a model that lacks a front camera, this is known as Kindle Fire HD 7" (2013). The 8.9" HD model remains the same. These variants are shown on the respective Wikipedia pages.
As far as I understand it, both 3rd gen HDX models and the 2013 version of the HD 7" suffer from the lack of an exploit that will allow the bootloader to be subverted, meaning that they're locked-down and you can't install a custom ROM. There is an exploit that will allow root on the KFHD7(2013), and there are methods to get root on HDX models that haven't been updated to the latest firmware, see the relevant forum. Once rooted, you can get the Play Store running and some Google services and apps. But if your HDX has already succumbed to the OTA update that started to go out a few weeks ago you're out of luck at present.
The only model that Amazon currently sells which can be turned into a proper Android tablet is the older Fire HD 8.9".
[Actually, it seems that you can still find the upgraded first-gen Fire for sale on Amazon if you follow the link on the Wikipedia entry, but Amazon doesn't advertise it.]

charlesky said:
Kindle Fire first gen
Kindle Fire 2nd gen (HD)
Kindle fire 3rd gen (HDX)
To complicate things a bit more, the 7" version of the first gen 7" Fire was re-released in 2012 with slightly upgraded HW and a new OS, this is called the Kindle Fire 2. The 7" version of the 2nd gen HD was re-released last year as a model that lacks a front camera, this is known as Kindle Fire HD 7" (2013). The 8.9" HD model remains the same. These variants are shown on the respective Wikipedia pages.
As far as I understand it, both 3rd gen HDX models and the 2013 version of the HD 7" suffer from the lack of an exploit that will allow the bootloader to be subverted, meaning that they're locked-down and you can't install a custom ROM. There is an exploit that will allow root on the KFHD7(2013), and there are methods to get root on HDX models that haven't been updated to the latest firmware, see the relevant forum. Once rooted, you can get the Play Store running and some Google services and apps. But if your HDX has already succumbed to the OTA update that started to go out a few weeks ago you're out of luck at present.
The only model that Amazon currently sells which can be turned into a proper Android tablet is the older Fire HD 8.9".
[Actually, it seems that you can still find the upgraded first-gen Fire for sale on Amazon if you follow the link on the Wikipedia entry, but Amazon doesn't advertise it.]
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I didn't notice the 'Kindle' until the second generation,so the question looks a little stupid.But you were so patient.Thank you very much.It's really a very detailed answer.But I still wonder if there is any possibility of getting the device unlocked and installing a custom ROM?

scuwudi said:
I didn't notice the 'Kindle' until the second generation,so the question looks a little stupid.But you were so patient.Thank you very much.It's really a very detailed answer.But I still wonder if there is any possibility of getting the device unlocked and installing a custom ROM?
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only if a dev comes along and get lucky and finds some code he can exploit but it is unknown when or if it will even be cracked so don't get your hopes too high.

stunts513 said:
only if a dev comes along and get lucky and finds some code he can exploit but it is unknown when or if it will even be cracked so don't get your hopes too high.
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I got it.Thank you so much.:laugh:

[Q] Is it possibility that to root Fire TV with the latest Fire OS version

Hi guys,
My Fire TV already have updated the latest Fire OS version. root fails.
Is there has some solutions to get the root right now? Is it possibility that to root Fire TV in the latest Fire OS version, or is it possibility in the future.
Thanks,
Griffin

Nope

mag13 said:
Nope
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Could you give some details ? I am thinking is should to sell my Fire TV, and buy new one for root

griffinqiu said:
Could you give some details ? I am thinking is should to sell my Fire TV, and buy new one for root
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Read the forum - everything is here

griffinqiu said:
Could you give some details ? I am thinking is should to sell my Fire TV, and buy new one for root
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That should work. I just received & rooted my 3rd AFTV tonight. Bought it online @ Staples last Thurs. I've bought 3 total from Staples. One last month & two last week. Been lucky to have never gotten an update nag screen on first setup. All of mine have come with FW 510055620. I have also heard BestBuy in-store AFTV's are rootable. I am finding it hard to find post about AFTV in the USA not being rootable if one follows the guides over at AFTVNews.com to the letter at the time of unboxing. I only know of one buyer from Staples that said he was not able to root 2 AFTV's.

Y314K said:
That should work. I just received & rooted my 3rd AFTV tonight. Bought it online @ Staples last Thurs. I've bought 3 total from Staples. One last month & two last week. Been lucky to have never gotten an update nag screen on first setup. All of mine have come with FW 510055620. I have also heard BestBuy in-store AFTV's are rootable. I am finding it hard to find post about AFTV in the USA not being rootable if one follows the guides over at AFTVNews.com to the letter at the time of unboxing. I only know of one buyer from Staples that said he was not able to root 2 AFTV's.
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My one (from staples) is unrootable as well.
So yes, unrootable fire tv are out there in the US.

wbc1228 said:
My one (from staples) is unrootable as well.
So yes, unrootable fire tv are out there in the US.
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Right.. But so far they have been very rare. You are just the 2nd person out of dozens & dozens (participated in two threads over at SlickDeals regarding FireTV's) that have received unrootable FireTV's... Did you make a note of the serial on the box ?? What router where you using ?

I have bought new one, and rooted. thank you everyone

griffinqiu said:
I have bought new one, and rooted. thank you everyone
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Can you tell us where you bought from to be able to see root this?

How to identify newest Amazon devices before buying?

Hello everybody,
I probably have a stupid question, but how do I know which stick generation to buy from amazon now? Is it mantis or bueller? Is that Generation 2 or 3? I don't get it... Amazon doesn't list any informations about device names.
Thx in advance

koboltzz said:
Hello everybody,
I probably have a stupid question, but how do I know which stick generation to buy from amazon now? Is it mantis or bueller? Is that Generation 2 or 3? I don't get it... Amazon doesn't list any informations about device names.
Thx in advance
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Connect with adb, type adb shell and watch out for the name
Stick names from first gen to last, montoya, tank, mantis
First gen box is bueller, 4k second gen is sloane.
The 4k stick currently sold is mantis, the third gen.
the non 4k is the second gen tank

Sus_i said:
Connect with adb, type adb shell and watch out for the name
Stick names from first gen to last, montoya, tank, mantis
First gen box is bueller, 4k second gen is sloane.
The 4k stick currently sold is mantis, the third gen.
the non 4k is the second gen tank
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Thx for your answer
I know how to do that after I bought the device, I meant how to find out what the devices are named before buying them from Amazon.
At that moment Amazon lists a normal Fire TV Stick, a Fire TV Stick 4K and a Fire TV Cube. Mantis is which one?

koboltzz said:
Thx for your answer
I know how to do that after I bought the device, I meant how to find out what the devices are named before buying them from Amazon.
At that moment Amazon lists a normal Fire TV Stick, a Fire TV Stick 4K and a Fire TV Cube. Mantis is which one?
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As I said earlier, mantis is the third generation FireTVstick, i.e. the current 4k stick.
That 'normal' stick is the second gen stick, called 'tank', i.e. the current Fire TV Stick without 4k.

Sus_i said:
As I said earlier, mantis is the third generation FireTVstick, i.e. the current 4k stick.
That 'normal' stick is the second gen stick, called 'tank', i.e. the current Fire TV Stick without 4k.
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I thank you again, but you must forgive me. I didn't expect Amazon to offer different generations at the same time. With the fire tablets, only one generation is offered at the same time and next year, when the Fire 7 FullHD comes out, the old one disappears from the shop overnight. So I thought that there are two current fire sticks, a FullHD and a 4K variant and not that the first one would be the old one. There are still a lot of FullHD TVs out there.

koboltzz said:
So I thought that there are two current fire sticks, a FullHD and a 4K variant and not that the first one would be the old one. There are still a lot of FullHD TVs out there.
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Yeah, they sell different stick versions... as of today the second and third generation.
There are two second Gen Stick versions out (stick without 4k), one with and one without alexa (I think the one without alexa is called international version), but both are 'tank' devices.
If you wan't the newest stick, go for the 4k fireTVStick, called mantis.

Sus_i said:
Yeah, they sell different stick versions... as of today the second and third generation.
There are two second Gen Stick versions out (stick without 4k), one with and one without alexa (I think the one without alexa is called international version), but both are 'tank' devices.
If you wan't the newest stick, go for the 4k fireTVStick, called mantis.
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But per OP, no way to identify the model Amazon will actually ship you I assume.

ldeveraux said:
But per OP, no way to identify the model Amazon will actually ship you I assume.
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Nope Of course you can identify the Stick model, i.e. decide which variant you buy...
like I said, only the new stick is 4k capable (QFHD), you see this in the amz. offer and ofcourse that stick is a bit more expensive than the older FullHD variant.
For identify the older FullHD stick, the 'basic' or 'international' version is imho the variant without alexa... slightly cheaper than the normal FullHD fireStick with alexa (and a better remote).