[Q] Oreo battery life - Moto G5 Questions & Answers

Hello
Since upgrading my firmware to Oreo 8.1 I find the batter life on my G5 Cedric poor, and it's even worse if I flash a custom 8.1 rom. Currently on Atomic 8.1, and with light to moderate use after 7 hours I go from 100% to 35%.
I don't know whether it's a case of my battery needs replacing or whether Oreo just eats up battery more than Nougat?
If others have found that Oreo is worse than I might downgrade back to Nougat.
Anyone else with a similar problem?

The battery life on Oreo custom ROMs is poor. However, the stock Oreo (i had the twrp flashable one) one was really nice. Battery life was better than Nougat custom ROMs. Pie custom ROMs also offer great battery life.

Interesting. My wife uses G5 and it's currently on Oreo and she complains a lot about battery life. It was updated from Nougat and reading some Moto forums, people there argued that it takes few weeks for the system to optimise itself, but it seems it never happened (Never heard such reasoning before either). I think flashing the ROM anew (even Oreo) might be a good option.

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Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus)'s battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
One of the biggest issues in the current Oreo ROMs is the mobile network standby drain.
People using the Pie alphas should report if it still exists or has been fixed, although I don't see any new baseband and hence the chances of latter are less.
devashish90 said:
One of the biggest issues in the current Oreo ROMs is the mobile network standby drain.
People using the Pie alphas should report if it still exists or has been fixed, although I don't see any new baseband and hence the chances of latter are less.
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The problem still exists in android pie roms too some one should address this serioous issue :crying:
Abhijith2048 said:
The problem still exists in android pie roms too some one should address this serioous issue :crying:
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I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
devashish90 said:
I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
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You could also install the viper os 3.0 final build but the problem with that is that it doesnt have the cameraapi 2 enabled on that because of that the google cam wouldnt work. The photos taken by the google cam and stock cam differ in the quality by a huge margin to be ignored
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I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
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Which ZUI you would flash? Stock Indian 2.5 or the Chinese ones?
saurav_k said:
Which ZUI you would flash? Stock Indian 2.5 or the Chinese ones?
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I ended up dowloading ZUI 2.0.093 Indian for qfil and ZUI 2.5.104 stock recovery zip (qpst one for this wasn't downloading for me).
I flashed ZUI 2.0 via qfil successfully, and received a small oTA to 2.0.133, and then decided to flash 2.5 via recovery, but failed to get it work. Anyways, decided to go ahead and unlock the BL and then I ended up flashing only the baseband from Indian 2.5.099 (data quota restrictions ).
After that I flashed the last build of AEX 4.6, used it for a day and the standby drain was not like a drain overthere. Unless I did not use hotspot, it wouldn't show up in top 5.
Few hours later, got a notification for a rebased release of Jaguar oreo, and couldn't resist from trying it out. Initial impressions were great, but slowly the standby drain started creeping in, and within a few hours it rose to the top. Luckily I made a nandroid backup of the AEX 4.6 Installation which I reverted to last night.
I do miss the oreo features though
Developers should look around the way Oneplus 6T addressed the issue. Coz I heard, they almost fixed the issue in the new phone.
ShaktiSW said:
Developers should look around the way Oneplus 6T addressed the issue. Coz I heard, they almost fixed the issue in the new phone.
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So does this problem exist for all android phones that are above android Oreo??? or is it just for our phones. The thing iam trying to understand here is that is it google that messed up android or is the developer that created the roms for our phone that messed up. Its actually funny how the phone uses more battery when the phone is not in use.:cyclops::cyclops:
1-2 % within 10 pm to 5 am ( Jio4G + Vodafone 3g ) without data connection
devashish90 said:
I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
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Hmm that means that you wouldn't be able to use google cam that means a huge degrade in the picture quality
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Hmm that means that you wouldn't be able to use google cam that means a huge degrade in the picture quality
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After creating a nandroid backup of fully loaded aex 4.6, I'm back to living on the bleeding edge. Going back to aex 4.6 wasn't as good in terms for battery performance Z I expected it to be.
Currently on october pixel exp pie and the latest gcam pixel3 mod and even the pixel 2 mods frequently crash the phone (kernel panic maybe) during HDR processing. Didn't have time for debugging so received a lot of frowning from family for missed shots and extended wait times but who cares as whatever gcam was able to shoot was unbelievable.
Would be moving to the latest AEX pie with 4.4 kernel soon as I have read that the new kernel will improve the battery life.
devashish90 said:
After creating a nandroid backup of fully loaded aex 4.6, I'm back to living on the bleeding edge. Going back to aex 4.6 wasn't as good in terms for battery performance Z I expected it to be.
Currently on october pixel exp pie and the latest gcam pixel3 mod and even the pixel 2 mods frequently crash the phone (kernel panic maybe) during HDR processing. Didn't have time for debugging so received a lot of frowning from family for missed shots and extended wait times but who cares as whatever gcam was able to shoot was unbelievable.
Would be moving to the latest AEX pie with 4.4 kernel soon as I have read that the new kernel will improve the battery life.
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What? Gcam is exceptionally stable for me, both pixel 2 and 3 moda
devashish90 said:
Currently on october pixel exp pie and the latest gcam pixel3 mod and even the pixel 2 mods frequently crash the phone (kernel panic maybe) during HDR processing.
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Hmm, is this issue specific to Oct build of PE Pie ROM ? Or you witnessed with earlier versions of PE too?
Battery life started decreasing after beginning of Android Oreo 8.1.
I'm using Viper Nougat Final + OSS Cam patch. I'm pretty happy with it.
Is updating firmware to zui 4.0 can solve draining problem
Sumit Saroha said:
1-2 % within 10 pm to 5 am ( Jio4G + Vodafone 3g ) without data connection
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Which rom and baseband do you use ??
ZUI 5 GSI has very low standby drain and SOT is also really good between oreo roms. You can try it once.
mine was so bad
I lose 25-30 percent through the night everynight and, I just replaced my battery for 3 month.
i don't know what's going on.
Can any one recommend me some good battery rom please ?
The battery drain issues are solved
Guys iam happy to report that the battery drain issues are solved on latest build of bootleggers 4.0 rom
Here is a link to it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/development/pie-bootleggers-3-5-shishufied-zuk-z2-t3867112

Rollback to Marshmallow?

So, I suppose that many of you have heard of the infamous Nougat battery drain. I've been experiencing it ever since I upgraded to 7.0. It's not necessarily a big problem, since I can still get through a normal, full day of use.. but it's still very noticeable. From the more than 4 hours of SoT I used to get, I can now barely get more than two, normally even lower. I have no idea what the problem is, I've tried everything. And since I'm going to go on a trip soon, I'm really going to need a good battery life.
So, I was thinking about rolling it back to Marshmallow. I'm S-OFF, so I'll use a RUU.zip. Before doing that however, I would love to hear some opinions. Has anyone else given up on Nougat? Anyone who experienced the Nougat drain? And is the battery indeed better on MM?
We're on an outdated security patch anyway, July 2017 and we're already in October, but would returning to whatever security patch the last MM version had be dangerous?
Thanks in advance.
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So, I suppose that many of you have heard of the infamous Nougat battery drain. I've been experiencing it ever since I upgraded to 7.0. It's not necessarily a big problem, since I can still get through a normal, full day of use.. but it's still very noticeable. From the more than 4 hours of SoT I used to get, I can now barely get more than two, normally even lower. I have no idea what the problem is, I've tried everything. And since I'm going to go on a trip soon, I'm really going to need a good battery life.
So, I was thinking about rolling it back to Marshmallow. I'm S-OFF, so I'll use a RUU.zip. Before doing that however, I would love to hear some opinions. Has anyone else given up on Nougat? Anyone who experienced the Nougat drain? And is the battery indeed better on MM?
We're on an outdated security patch anyway, July 2017 and we're already in October, but would returning to whatever security patch the last MM version had be dangerous?
Thanks in advance.
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I have been on U.S Unlocked nougat since the initial release and I have no such problem. Battery ain't what it used to be but I always hit 4 hours sot.
You could try flashing a Sense-based custom rom like Viper or Leedroid first to see if there is an improvement.
Regarding security, based on all the people *****ing in the Updates thread I'm pretty sure your phone will immediately contract the Ebola virus after downgrading to MM. Either that, or you're probably fine with the "old" security patches on MM. Your choice to try though.
S-OFF, flash MM RUU

[Q] Battery friendly?

Hi
I have newly rooted G5 Cedric, I was happily using the stock rom with xposed and gravity box, which gave me pretty solid battery performance. But I missed a few tweaks and mods so I flashed the last release of RR, which is a 7.1 rom. I haven't gone to Oreo as I am using 32bit version twrp, and quite happy keeping that.
Problem is since installing RR, battery life is considerably worse than the stock rom, so I guess I will have to go back to that. Can anyone suggest a rom which looks and feels as nice as RR but can offer a more stock sounding performance when it comes to battery?
I have rom suggestions threads as much as anyone, so I apologise for that
Got to say since I switched to 64bit lineage I've not even thought about battery. Never use to last before even with battery friendly kernel optimization. Not setup any optimization since I upgrade to the latest 64bit lineageos and had a good run, screenshot of my phone just before replying to this.

Android Oreo in 2019

Hello everyone,
Just curious to know if we have Oxygen os builds available for Oreo in 2019. Would like to rollback to Oreo but don't want to lose android security patches.
Android pie is working fine. But really miss the brightness levels and camera was better in nougat and Oreo compared to pie. Battery was the top in nougat easily got 6-7 hours screen on time with enough battery left for the day and with Oreo it was the best 8-8.5 hours.
Not complaining about pie. Can get through the whole day with moderate use and 20-30% left in evening. Just sharing my experience so far with 5t.
I would like to try nougat or Oreo if there are any versions available with latest android security patches.
Apologies if this has been already asked somewhere and answered. I went across XDA and OnePlus forums, Plz let me know if anyone is running Oxygen os with nougat/Oreo at the moment. Thanks!!
No OOS oreo/nougat builds with latest security patches
surya nivas said:
No OOS oreo/nougat builds with latest security patches
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Hmm..guess I need to stick with pie only..
Evolve92 said:
Hello everyone,
Just curious to know if we have Oxygen os builds available for Oreo in 2019. Would like to rollback to Oreo but don't want to lose android security patches.
Android pie is working fine. But really miss the brightness levels and camera was better in nougat and Oreo compared to pie. Battery was the top in nougat easily got 6-7 hours screen on time with enough battery left for the day and with Oreo it was the best 8-8.5 hours.
Not complaining about pie. Can get through the whole day with moderate use and 20-30% left in evening. Just sharing my experience so far with 5t.
I would like to try nougat or Oreo if there are any versions available with latest android security patches.
Apologies if this has been already asked somewhere and answered. I went across XDA and OnePlus forums, Plz let me know if anyone is running Oxygen os with nougat/Oreo at the moment. Thanks!!
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I dont see any decrease in battery life in pie. More likely your battery degenerated over time or some apps or background services drain it.
Go hunting for it with logcat or betterbatterystats
Try custom ROMs
surya nivas said:
Try custom ROMs
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Yes...custom roms are totally worth it, Since I have multiple work apps installed at the moment. a bit concerned on how they will work under root. Just sharing my usage logs with a comparison between Oreo and pie
The first set of screenshots are from moderate day usage in Oreo back in 2018 which has mixed usage of social apps and gaming
The second usage is from current stable 9.0.6
Not sure if everyone is getting similar battery life between Oreo and pie in moderate usage throughout the day.
I feel the 10-15% difference with battery left at end of day cause a big change still I get to manage throughout the day in pie.
Compared to Oreo from these random usage screenshots, pie is getting worse day by day. Maybe it's the battery that gets degraded over time or its the overall phone hardware that runs round the clock for us
I have this feel almost with every device, Samsung galaxy 5, Xperia neo v and also back in opo. Android kitkat had best battery and lollipop had a moderate and with marshmallow it got worse.
Just sharing my opinion and also curious to know if y'all out there feel the same.
Edit : Would like to add all these usage were taken in locked bl running unrooted
No need for root , just flash a custom rom and then enjoy ,for me comparing to Oreo pie has good SOT , AND im a heavy Gamer so cant help with battery stats :silly::laugh:
Still many custom ROMs works good in SOT with a custom kernel too.
surya nivas said:
No need for root , just flash a custom rom and then enjoy ,for me comparing to Oreo pie has good SOT , AND im a heavy Gamer so cant help with battery stats :silly::laugh:
Still many custom ROMs works good in SOT with a custom kernel too.
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Hmm yeah.. planning to give it a try. Been sticking with stock unroot most of times since I got 5t. Had it unlocked and under root for few weeks back in January due to shutter sound bug. Since it got fixed moved to stable.
I could see many custom roms are available to try.
Any tips on choosing custom rom, I mainly look for Oxygen os camera and good battery. How's OOS open beta holding up compared to stable pie in terms of battery.

[Q] Best for battery

I recently purchased a HTC 10.
I have it rooted and s-off. I find the battery life rather poor, again it was kind of expected as my old HTC 7 and 8 were pretty poor. The 10 came with the latest and last sense firmware which is Oreo.
Last week I downgraded to Nougat firmware and installed the last Nougat version of Maximus. I was hoping this would offer up better battery life.
Seems to be the general consensus that Oreo has the worst battery life for our phones, does this include both Sense and AOSP roms?
What is the opinion of Marshmallow Sense based roms, could I squeak a little more out of my battery if I downgrade to Marshmallow?
Would really like some ideas to maximise the best from my battery. Not too bothered about tons of features, however I would prefer to remain with Sense.
maritimesbob said:
I recently purchased a HTC 10.
I have it rooted and s-off. I find the battery life rather poor, again it was kind of expected as my old HTC 7 and 8 were pretty poor. The 10 came with the latest and last sense firmware which is Oreo.
Last week I downgraded to Nougat firmware and installed the last Nougat version of Maximus. I was hoping this would offer up better battery life.
Seems to be the general consensus that Oreo has the worst battery life for our phones, does this include both Sense and AOSP roms?
What is the opinion of Marshmallow Sense based roms, could I squeak a little more out of my battery if I downgrade to Marshmallow?
Would really like some ideas to maximise the best from my battery. Not too bothered about tons of features, however I would prefer to remain with Sense.
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I found that N firmware and lineage based roms, lineageOS16, crdroid, etc is best for battery.
If you want Sense, then I highly suggest Leedroid ROM, or just flash the N RUU and keep it stock with Root if wanted flash Magisk.
There's also some nice stock Verizon ROMs in Verizon 10 section by Santod.
Download accubattery application from Playstore and see what your battery capacity is at..
I bet if used its not that great unfortunately. QC3.0 didn't help at all..
I'm at around 2,000-2,200mAh outta the 3,000mAh.
It takes a few charge sessions to get an accurate reading. Also I've found on P ROMs it's telling me 66% but on N it's 74%
Hope this helps.
A Nougat release of Leedroid would you suggest?
Thanks.
maritimesbob said:
A Nougat release of Leedroid would you suggest?
Thanks.
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Yes I would.

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