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Is this phone impossible to root or is there just a lack of interest in figuring out a way to unlock the bootloader? I love this phone but really miss the freedom I had on previous devices to install certain apps and run different roms. I've never had a device that has been out this long without a root available.
I guess what I'm asking is if I should consider going to a different device if there isn't a way to unlock the bootloader in sight or stick it out because it'll happen in the near future.
2kool2Bcruel said:
Is this phone impossible to root or is there just a lack of interest in figuring out a way to unlock the bootloader? I love this phone but really miss the freedom I had on previous devices to install certain apps and run different roms. I've never had a device that has been out this long without a root available.
I guess what I'm asking is if I should consider going to a different device if there isn't a way to unlock the bootloader in sight or stick it out because it'll happen in the near future.
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So far, no way to root it yet, I am stuck on the Sprint G7 myself and currently fighting with Sprint to allow me to swap to another device. I know it wont work but at least I am voicing my dissatisfaction of this device with the lack of timely updates (still on November security). If I had known now when I went to Sprint back then, I would have never chosen the LG G7. The phone itself is decent, hardware is good but lack of root, lack of bootloader unlock, and lack of timely updates make the device unusable in my opinion.
I personally am hoping I or someone else can find an exploit for ROOT and eventually bootloader but so far, not much traction has been made in that department.
I have a g710pm, running Android 8.0.0
I see in developer options there is a selection that says, "Enable OEM Unlock" wouldn't that unlock the bootloader?
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I have a g710pm, running Android 8.0.0
I see in developer options there is a selection that says, "Enable OEM Unlock" wouldn't that unlock the bootloader?
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Nope it will not limited fast boot won't let you run the command its basically useless
You can take a look at my post, there are all the models in my country to unlock BL and ROOT, but only in the hands of a few people, they do not intend to share this, and through this to get benefits, they provide remote unlocking and ROOT services , but need to pay, which is expensive for me, I don't know English, sorry, the reply is translated by Google...
Hey everyone! As I had said earlier, the rumors are true, most G7 variants can be bootloader unlocked. I searched many Chinese websites that had already shown rooted G7 phones but showed no clear methods besides "remote unlock services". Now the method is known! The engineering bootloader from a very unique AT&T V35 V35AWM model (abl_a and abl_b) is flashed via an Octoplus box on the G7 when in QDLoader 9008 mode. This guy from Ukraine motogvasyag posted his methods on 4pda.ru and are now on XDA here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/how-to/to-unlock-bootloader-root-models-t3928505
Please check out the thread, and do donate if you can. He is doing these Octoplus flashes for free.
**This method won't work on T-Mobile model (G710TM and others). I'll still be on the lookout for any T-Mobile methods.**
I have searched for a very long time how to unlock the bootloader to this phone. What I came across was the proper way to unlock the bootloader, using Xiaomi's unlocking service. This way tends to take around a week to actually unlock your phone. I am far too impatient for this and have yet to find a better option to get my phone's bootloader unlocked. Is there any better way to do this?
yayimathrowaway said:
I have searched for a very long time how to unlock the bootloader to this phone. What I came across was the proper way to unlock the bootloader, using Xiaomi's unlocking service. This way tends to take around a week to actually unlock your phone. I am far too impatient for this and have yet to find a better option to get my phone's bootloader unlocked. Is there any better way to do this?
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No, you'll have to be patient.
For some reason, mine came unlocked. I bought it from the Xiaomi Ali express store.
I want to buy this phone but am wary because of my past experience with Huawei's locked bootloader, and their requirement to go through them to unlock; which they discontinued right after I bought the damn thing!
This required a payment (about $25 iirc) to a third party in order to get an unlock code.
Is this something I should be worried about with Xiaomi phones?
TiTiB said:
I want to buy this phone but am wary because of my past experience with Huawei's locked bootloader, and their requirement to go through them to unlock; which they discontinued right after I bought the damn thing!
This required a payment (about $25 iirc) to a third party in order to get an unlock code.
Is this something I should be worried about with Xiaomi phones?
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This shouldn't be a concern for now. Xiaomi isn't planning to restrict unlocking the bootloader. Another thing you should consider is that Redmi note 8 pro gets easily bricked by flashing custom twrp, magisk, etc. but it's not easily recovered as it requires xiaomi authorised account.
zaqm said:
This shouldn't be a concern for now. Xiaomi isn't planning to restrict unlocking the bootloader. Another thing you should consider is that Redmi note 8 pro gets easily bricked by flashing custom twrp, magisk, etc. but it's not easily recovered as it requires xiaomi authorised account.
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Thanks for that info! I'm thinking I'll go with my other phone choice, as I like to mess around with all that stuff, and custom ROMs.
Can someone explain how is it possible that after unlocking the phone and rooting,it still shows my phone is locked and secured?
ariber14 said:
Can someone explain how is it possible that after unlocking the phone and rooting,it still shows my phone is locked and secured?
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You are using the stock rom, right? This is a false alarm. If you can flash modules and edit system files you are rooted for sure.
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You are using the stock rom, right? This is a false alarm. If you can flash modules and edit system files you are rooted for sure.
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Yes i'm on stock rom. And of course i'm rooted.
spikesmonster said:
For some reason, mine came unlocked. I bought it from the Xiaomi Ali express store.
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That's a serious red flag. Make sure you flash every possible firmware from the stocks here...
But if I were you, I'd return it and get it retail properly. Ali Express is notorious for vendors that put spyware and other ****e on their phones prior to shipping.
I got a proper Redmi Note 5 Plus (Vince) once, and retail was supposed to have a locked bootloader in the same fashion as this phone. On Redmi 5, however, there was an even cooler known problem where they would keep people's bootloaders locked, but flash malicious firmware using a testbed by taking the phones apart. So people would receive their Redmi 5's from Ali Express bugged and they would have to wait out those weeks to unlock it and flash clean images.
On an unrelated note, I did use an exploit on that MIUI version by creating two accounts, logging off, signing off, I don't remember. But I unlocked the bootloader the day I got my Vince. I'm not sure if this will work anymore. Not that I needed to. Again, I would never get a phone of Ali Express.
dimapoter said:
That's a serious red flag. Make sure you flash every possible firmware from the stocks here...
But if I were you, I'd return it and get it retail properly. Ali Express is notorious for vendors that put spyware and other ****e on their phones prior to shipping.
I got a proper Redmi Note 5 Plus (Vince) once, and retail was supposed to have a locked bootloader in the same fashion as this phone. On Redmi 5, however, there was an even cooler known problem where they would keep people's bootloaders locked, but flash malicious firmware using a testbed by taking the phones apart. So people would receive their Redmi 5's from Ali Express bugged and they would have to wait out those weeks to unlock it and flash clean images.
On an unrelated note, I did use an exploit on that MIUI version by creating two accounts, logging off, signing off, I don't remember. But I unlocked the bootloader the day I got my Vince. I'm not sure if this will work anymore. Not that I needed to. Again, I would never get a phone of Ali Express.
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I don't know about spyware but they mainly unlock the bootloader on china variant to flash the global rom and sell it as a global variant. Later the user receives an update notification and installs the update and voala you get your device bricked.
zaqm said:
I don't know about spyware but they mainly unlock the bootloader on china variant to flash the global rom and sell it as a global variant. Later the user receives an update notification and installs the update and voala you get your device bricked.
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Yes, once in a while they do it just for the sake of putting on a "better" ROM. Some of those Ali Express Note 5's reportedly came with even beta ROMs.
I'm saying just to exercise caution, is all. But a different ROM that would receive the wrong OTA sounds just as bad. I've never even thought about that scenario...
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Yes, once in a while they do it just for the sake of putting on a "better" ROM. Some of those Ali Express Note 5's reportedly came with even beta ROMs.
I'm saying just to exercise caution, is all. But a different ROM that would receive the wrong OTA sounds just as bad. I've never even thought about that scenario...
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Fortunately, that has not been the case and I've been able to install several updates to the global rom since purchasing.
I'm trying to get oem unlocking to show up in Developer Options but am not having any luck. It's a Samsung Galaxy Note 10 + running Android 10. It's the 256gb aura glow color if that matters. Anyways I've had it turned on for 170+ hours without rebooting it. Yet I still don't see any mention of oem unlocking in Developer Options. Did I miss a step? I see some people mentioning stuff to do with changing the time and stuff and I tried that in the past with no success. I just tried to check for software updates then went back to developer options and still don't see anything about oem unlocking. I have put the phone in airplane mode a few times so could that be it?
What is the criteria or whatever you need to do to get oem unlocking to show up?
It's not rooted and I currently have had it on for over 168 hours and tried checking for software update by going to settings>software update>download and install.
Help? Thank you
that1guyyep101 said:
I'm trying to get oem unlocking to show up in Developer Options but am not having any luck. It's a Samsung Galaxy Note 10 + running Android 10. It's the 256gb aura glow color if that matters. Anyways I've had it turned on for 170+ hours without rebooting it. Yet I still don't see any mention of oem unlocking in Developer Options. Did I miss a step? I see some people mentioning stuff to do with changing the time and stuff and I tried that in the past with no success. I just tried to check for software updates then went back to developer options and still don't see anything about oem unlocking. I have put the phone in airplane mode a few times so could that be it?
What is the criteria or whatever you need to do to get oem unlocking to show up?
It's not rooted and I currently have had it on for over 168 hours and tried checking for software update by going to settings>software update>download and install.
Help? Thank you
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What is your model number? N975(?)
SM-N975U
Your not doing anything wrong and there is nothing you can do.
The SM-N975U and SM-N975U1 do not provide us with the ability to unlock our bootloader. This means we will not be given the OEM Unlock option.
But isn't unlocking bootloader part of rooting? Or is there a way around that? I mean I don't absolutely have to root it but I thought it would be cool to have the option. What's so different about this one that I can't be given the oem unlock option? Sorry if I sound irritated.. I am but not at anyone on here
Also I got this through us cellular. Maybe should have just bought it through Samsung? Model number would probably be different and would probably be able to get oem unlocking option
You should do a little more research. None of the US snapdragon Note10's are bootloader unlockable and hence, are not rootable. Doesn't matter where you purchased it. As far as I know, this is the case for all Samsung phones sold in the US and has been the case for quite a long time.
You can read more here.
that1guyyep101 said:
Also I got this through us cellular. Maybe should have just bought it through Samsung? Model number would probably be different and would probably be able to get oem unlocking option
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No US versions of the Note 10+ can be OEM unlocked or rooted. Does not matter if you bought it from Samsung carrier unlocked or from a service provider. Carrier versions are SM-N975U and unlocked version is SM-N975U1. It has been a very long time since you could root a Samsung US device. I believe the S6 or S7 were the last rootable Galaxy phones in the US. The Note 8 could be rooted with an engineering kernel but it was more of a hack since you could not fully charge the phone.
Do the Canadian variants of the S20 (ending with W) have an unlockable bootloader?
Can anyone with a Canadian device check if OEM Unlock is available in the Development Options?
The A505W does have an unlockable bootloader, so I was wondering..
Thanks!
Dream on, its locked. Every north american snapdragon samsung phone is locked, that a505w is an exynos so its unlocked.
peachpuff said:
Dream on, its locked. Every north american snapdragon samsung phone is locked, that a505w is an exynos so its unlocked.
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I just upgraded from the s7edge which I went back to after not being able to root the s8, so I haven't really followed any of the phones after that, but will there be away to unlock the bootloader found eventually, or is this just the way it is ?
Fuktard.allday said:
I just upgraded from the s7edge which I went back to after not being able to root the s8, so I haven't really followed any of the phones after that, but will there be away to unlock the bootloader found eventually, or is this just the way it is ?
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If it follows the same pattern of S8, S9, S9 and the Notes - then never.
You can always try and see if its unlockable by going into the Developer Options, check to see if OEM unlock is available. If it's there it may be unlockable.
firefds said:
If it follows the same pattern of S8, S9, S9 and the Notes - then never.
You can always try and see if its unlockable by going into the Developer Options, check to see if OEM unlock is available. If it's there it may be unlockable.
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Not to sound like a ****, but if the option was there I wouldn't be here. I just started reading into the last couple models that didn't have the oem unlock option under the developer options and I'm starting to think that the outlook isn't so good. I should have done a bit of research and maybe tried to get my carrier to grab me a phone from elsewhere and bring it in for me. Just happy I kept the s7 edge, give me something to play around with while I wait for whatever comes next I guess.
Is it possible to flash stock firmware from one of the variants that does have the oem unlock option to the phone ?
Fuktard.allday said:
Is it possible to flash stock firmware from one of the variants that does have the oem unlock option to the phone ?
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That wont do anything.
I've had my eye on this phone for a bit now, and if all is good, I'm going to get one next weekend.
Some disturbing news though, it appears that unlocking the bootloader will completely kill the cameras. And the only way to get them functional again, is to lock the bootloader again.
SO, I guess this means that recovery, root, or anything else that requires modifiying the system in any way, will kill the use of the cameras?
Is it possible to unlock, root and do whatever, then relock the bootloader and get cameras back while still having root?
The 90% people on this community first what learn ro do is to unlock bootloader. You think that they all dont need camera or..
How is that even possible?
Once when you unblock bootloader you can do what you want, flash custom rom, custom recovery, custom Kernel. Magisk. Magisk modules..
But when you lock it ,and something got wrong ,you get hard brick phone. Bootloader must ne unlock until you use root and etc..
Camera have nothing to do with unlocking and working perfectly. I dont know who say to you ...or make a joke
Btw what phone you want to unlock?
Sometimes it is better to keep quite, specially when you are not aware about current affairs.
@ OP yes, still same.
dr.ketan said:
Sometimes it is better to keep quite, specially when you are not aware about current affairs.
@ OP yes, still same.
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Well, dang. That kind of kills the idea of fully functional phone with root. I mostly use root for ad blocking anymore. I don't really do the custom ROM thing all that much. Custom Android development these days isn't what it used to be.
I'm looking at either the carrier unlocked version, or the Verizon version (as I have Verizon as my carrier)
I believe rooting for ad blocking means you are paying more (now a days). In my opinion, Private DNS could be a good choice for ad block on unrooted.
I use AdAway. Works perfectly. But for best use, requires root. But yeah, other than that, I don't really use root. Would be nice to have a functional TWRP, but that may or may not happen. But that camera kill is a problem. I guess if I can get DNS to work, I won't have to worry about the bootloader at all. There would be no point.
I use AdGuard on my non-rooted phone and I don't see ads. None.
I see no reason why you need to root to just block ads. There are some great ad blocking apps out there. I love AdGuard because it works not only on my phone, but my PC as well.
There is a reason you cannot get this on the PlayStore. Google kicked it off because it works so well.
NextDNS
tze_vitamin said:
The 90% people on this community first what learn ro do is to unlock bootloader. You think that they all dont need camera or..
How is that even possible?
Once when you unblock bootloader you can do what you want, flash custom rom, custom recovery, custom Kernel. Magisk. Magisk modules..
But when you lock it ,and something got wrong ,you get hard brick phone. Bootloader must ne unlock until you use root and etc..
Camera have nothing to do with unlocking and working perfectly. I dont know who say to you ...or make a joke
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Actually that is where you are wrong. Another user on this forum unlocked their bootloader on fold3 and then their cameras where disabled. There is even a warning message on unlocking bootloader screen that states clearly that cameras will be disabled after unlocking the bootloader. Even Sony smartphones had this but then Sony removed it so cameras won't be disabled after bootloader unlock.
You can read more about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlocking-bootloader-will-disable-the-camera.4321957/
So if bootloader locked/unlocked doesn't much matter (at least at this point), since I have Verizon, is there any reason to spring for the Unlocked version over the Verizon version? Does the Verizon version have any more apps preinstalled on it that the Unlocked version doesn't? Does either perform any differently?
Unlocked carrier is not the same as unlocked bootloader.
chevycam94 said:
So if bootloader locked/unlocked doesn't much matter (at least at this point), since I have Verizon, is there any reason to spring for the Unlocked version over the Verizon version? Does the Verizon version have any more apps preinstalled on it that the Unlocked version doesn't? Does either perform any differently?
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ronaldheld said:
Unlocked carrier is not the same as unlocked bootloader.
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What he said.
Carrier Unlock is the same as SIM Unlock which lets you use other carrier SIM Cards, has NOTHING to do with the Bootloader.
The Bootloader just unlocks the ability to flash custom Recoveries and ROM's. This does NOT SIM Unlock your phone.
Guys, I'm well aware of the difference between the two. I've been at this for 14+ years. I'm just wondering if there is a performance difference, or bloatware content difference between the Carrier Unlocked version and the Verizon Locked version.
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Guys, I'm well aware of the difference between the two. I've been at this for 14+ years. I'm just wondering if there is a performance difference, or bloatware content difference between the Carrier Unlocked version and the Verizon Locked version.
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Today, the hardware in the US variant "Unlocked" and "Verizon" versions are exactly the same. The difference is only in the software set. And you have choices there. With Odin 3B you can cross-flash between the models to get the software set you want. Hell, you can even put the TMO software on the VZW "locked" device (I use quotes there because it is only locked for 90 days, at which point it becomes fully SIM unlocked automatically). You can load the U1-XAA, the U1-VZW, the U-VZW, whatever you can get your hands on. I am currently using a Verizon device with U1-XAA software, happily on One UI 4.0 beta. The Note 10 was the last device to have different hardware profiles between carriers that prevented full cross-flash support, and that was just because of the differing 5G networks as 5G was still in its infancy.
Notice how my phone setting in the photo show my phone as being a U1 (because it reads the phones software), and my phone info page within Samsung Members shows it to be a VZW device (because it uses the serial number to look up info from its database).
If you have any specific questions about it, feel free to message me. I have been doing this stuff since the WinMo days before Android existed. I don't post a lot because very few people read AND understand.
Oh, and for clarification to all the trolls out there, my device is still bootloader locked, Knox is fully intact, and my device is still covered under warranty (This was tested with my Note20 when i had to have the NFC chip replaced, and it too was a U-VZW running U1-XAA software.).
tze_vitamin said:
The 90% people on this community first what learn ro do is to unlock bootloader. You think that they all dont need camera or..
How is that even possible?
Once when you unblock bootloader you can do what you want, flash custom rom, custom recovery, custom Kernel. Magisk. Magisk modules..
But when you lock it ,and something got wrong ,you get hard brick phone. Bootloader must ne unlock until you use root and etc..
Camera have nothing to do with unlocking and working perfectly. I dont know who say to you ...or make a joke
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Hoping for some progress on camera issue and all we get is this dips### lol
I didnt know that unlocking bootloader can kill camera. I unlocking phones , Samsung mostly. After then Xiaomi comes with lower prices and I now unlocking Xiaomi.
Can understand why vendors doing it..
But ... Some Hacker will always find some way
I have a U1 phone on Verizon. Everything works. 5g, wifi calling etc. Not sure if Verizon video calling works but who uses that? Duo is in the dialer I think. I've used opera browser for years which has ad blocking as well. YT vanced also and fblc
tze_vitamin said:
I didnt know that unlocking bootloader can kill camera. I unlocking phones , Samsung mostly. After then Xiaomi comes with lower prices and I now unlocking Xiaomi.
Can understand why vendors doing it..
But ... Some Hacker will always find some way
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It's with this batch of Sammy phones. Doesn't always kill the camera.
BUT they have tried and haven't found a work around. Maybe 12 will let us, but for now we cannot unlock withou the camera "breaking".
Please see my thread - i believe with a12 this is thankfully now moot!!!!