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Honest review from a critical nerd (me)

I've has my Galaxy Nexus for a couple of days now, on the Three network in the UK.
I hate how most people in reviews rave about phones when they have just forked out for them, and fail to mention any real negatives - presumably because they refuse to accept that something they've spent £500 on might be less than perfect. When you buy one and it's missing features or isn't quite what you expected, it's very annoying.
Here are my thoughts so far. I consider myself a power-user, and have tested almost everything. Overall, people are right. This is the best phone I've touched. I think once devs start optimising their apps to work properly on ICS it'll be even better. Fingers crossed that Cyanogen will address lots of the annoyances below.
I hope this is useful for someone
The Good:
Feels much more complete and unified.
It's lightening fast.
Most of the best bits of Android have transferred.
Screen looks great.
Face unlock works much better than I thought. Even in low light.
I've only had one crash despite installing a tonne of apps and testing every feature. [EDIT: a few FCs today. Mainly from the pre-installed Google Earth).
Radio seems to work fine on Three UK, unlike the SGS II which has data issues due to fast dormancy. Data speeds are great.
Browser generally much better.
Text input much better, but editing is a little confusing and seems to vary depending on app. [EDIT: This is actually phenomenal. I've always had a hardware keyboard or Swype before so no practice on these keyboards. After only 48 hours, I can literally type without looking. It is very good at correcting mistakes.]
Screen size is great for me, as I use my phones as mini-tablets. Doesn't feel bulky in my pocket at all.
BLUETOOTH STEREO FINALLY DOESN'T DISTORT - I can hear hi-hats again instead of just distortion. There is a bit of constant crackling though.
Screen remains responsive when charging. I have had an issue where it wasn't registering touch properly when charging on my Milestone, Desire and SGSII so this is really nice.
The Bad:
EVEN THOUGH I'M SUPPOSEDLY IN AN UNAFFECTED BAND, IF MY PHONE DROPS TO 2G, AND SOMEONE WALKS NEAR ME MAKING A PHONECALL IT PUTS MY PHONE ON SILENT.
The 'menu' button is unpredictable. For example, in most apps it appears at the bottom with the softkeys. In Market it's up at the top, near the search button. In some apps, it has gone. Seems to vary and is confusing.
You're stuck with the Google search box on you home screen. I hate this.
Now the button has gone, if an app doesn't have a search icon, you've lost the ability to search.
Also means no long press search, so you have to go back to the home screen for voice commands. This also means that regardless of what launcher you use, if you want voice search, you NEED to have the Google search widget on your home screen.
No USB Mass Storage – they've opted for media device profile instead. My Xbox recognises it but can't play any content. It doesn't work with my car stereo. It doesn't work with my TV. My laptop will see it, but I can't see certain hidden folders. This has just removed a huge aspect of flexibility from Android. It's no longer universal, and more like an iPhone now in that respect.
Icons are as ugly in real life as everyone expected.
Blue theme clashes with everything except blue. Blue icons on blue background feels very bland.
There is a huge problem with speech to text, whereby it is very slow, and seems to just write a list of names out of my contacts directory rather than writing what I say! Video here: http://youtu.be/qHVptz2EtMk
No longer accepts certain file formats over Bluetooth.
Camera seems buggy when reviewing photos. It works confusingly.
Gallery is not very intuitive at all.
Browser doesn't display Javascript animations properly.
Dropped a few calls.
Wifi range isn't as good as my other Androids
Front facing camera doesn't aim inwards towards your face. It points straight forward at 90 degrees, but it's positioned on the right of the device, so your face isn't central unless you hold the phone at a bit of an angle facing away from you. [EDIT - this is getting very annoying now. You have to have the phone screen pointing almost away from you to video call]
Bluetooth calls don't seem to work. Caller can't hear what I'm saying. [EDIT - I'm told it works on newer kits. Mine is a Jabra stereo receiver]
Bluetooth music has a constant crackling behind it, but it's barely noticeable in loud music.
All albumart appears in the phone gallery.
Google Talk seems to sign out after a while. It's showing all of my contacts as away even though I know they're online. Signing out and in again fixes this temporarily, but I'm guessing I would miss video calls whilst offline.
Phone has gone to permanent sleep about 3 times in 2 and a half days now. Requires a battery pull to get it back on.
Apps - If you can't live without these, I'd recommend waiting to buy until they're fixed
No menu button is shown on Facebook, so there's no way to set it up to sync contacts or notifications. This means no contact photos for now.
Twitter on the other hand syncs all my contacts, despite me telling it not to.
Doesn't support Swype as yet.
Doesn't support MX Video Player.
iPlayer not available in the Market.
Grooveshark app doesn't work due to lack of flash player. You can use Dood's music streamer for a functional but unattractive alternative.

Thanks for the review and honesty. It would be nice if you kept this updated as either your opinion changes or things are fixed from either Google or app developers.

Is web browser as smooth (scrolling, pinch to zoom) as one on the galaxy s2?

I really beginning to wonder if Verizon is going to put these out there in two weeks without some fixes/improvements in place. I mean, if December 8 is real, these phones have got be in sealed boxes already. People will be returning them faster than they sell them.

hrcro said:
Is web browser as smooth (scrolling, pinch to zoom) as one on the galaxy s2?
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It feels a lot smoother than my Galaxy S II did.
I'm about to test the bluetooth quality, as crackling audio was my biggest pet hate from previous Android versions.

Can you resize the search widget? If we are stuck with it maybe something smaller will help minimize that particular drawback.

have you got an otg usb cable? can you hook up a thumb drive?
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suomaf said:
have you got an otg usb cable? can you hook up a thumb drive?
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yes, please test it. whole forum with owners GN but nobody had test this opportunity yet

I hope yopu don't mind but I am going to hijack this thread and also post a quick review from a similar nerd is maybe over critical. Saves starting a new thread.
The Good
ICS is very polished, much more so than any other version of android, it tries to stay consistent through the whole phone where as in previous versions it was one of my main annoyances.
The device looks fantastic.
The speed is very good, I wouldn't say it is any faster than a SGS2 with a custom rom IMO but it is a lot smother in animation etc. so it feels a lot faster.
The screen is very nice, playing videos when the screen is set up to an acceptable brightness are amazing with colours a lot more natural than the SGS2 or the yellow tint of the iphone 4.
Radio is very good also, getting full signal in my house where as before i would only receive 2-3 bars.
Text input is a lot better although i have found it is unable to keep up with my typing, although it is putting the letters down it almost seems like there is a little delay in the animation of them magnifying.
Notification light is back and I am glad, as I missed that feature on my SGS2.
Has everything, NFC, noise cancelling mic, 720p display and ICS. Its pretty much future proof (in terms of the next few years)
Zero shutter lag is a very good feature
Bad Points
The screen although very nice on full or half brightness is not very good on auto brightness. It is so much lower compared to all my other smart phones it is almost unusable I find so I have had to manually set the brightness.
Auto rotate as I have mentioned in another thread is very inconsistent, very fast in some apps nearly non existent in others.
Sound quality is quiet, not poor quality but very quiet. My SGS2 and iPhone 4 over power it when playing videos.
The browser is fast but it is not as fast as my SGS2 running Check Rom Revolution HD. It is deffo faster than the iPhone 4.
The camera is not great, its not bad but the quality feels like it is from a year old device. Quite grainy, not as good as the SGS2 or the iphone 4s unfortunately.
And lastly a few quirks which I am sure will be sorted out with an over the air update, occasional stutter when opening app draw, gallery doesn't seem terribly smooth when going through photos and the auto rotate is just annoying me.
Other than the above I don't want people to read this and think it is doom and gloom because it isn't. This is a very very good device, I am glad I purchased it because it is still the best phone on the market in my opinion.
Every phone has its niggles but that is why this forum is so great, I am looking forward to the community baked roms which always make a device go from very good to just awesome.
To answer some question, you can't resize the search bar. Its not really a widget its sort of like the controls at the bottom, permanently there.

when typing does it type well, what I mean is it off when typing and you keep getting bad letters up, I had that problem with the SGS2 someone mentioned it was a screen problem that it kept jumping
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bmstrong said:
Can you resize the search widget? If we are stuck with it maybe something smaller will help minimize that particular drawback.
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Nope, can't resize it. It's there permanently. You'd have to install another launcher.
Added a few more to the list, mainly to do with Bluetooth.

Is FM radio working with Spirit FM Radio app?

justabrake said:
when typing does it type well, what I mean is it off when typing and you keep getting bad letters up, I had that problem with the SGS2 someone mentioned it was a screen problem that it kept jumping
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Yeah it types really well, I don't think I have mistyped once on there and I type real fast.

Good lord. That's a lot of negatives. Thanks for the honest review for undecided minds like me. Just two questions. If you use a 3rd party launcher (for example adw) will the google search bar still be present? Secondly, how does the GPS perform in terms of fix time and accuracy? Does barometer really help GPS fix time? Thanks

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Secondly, how does the GPS perform in terms of fix time and accuracy? Does barometer really help GPS fix time? Thanks
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The GPS fix for me is very fast, easily within a second or so. Much faster than my Desire was, that's for sure.

A lot of those negatives either will be resolved soon by Google or they won't be a problem for the majority of people
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OP > when typing does it type well, what I mean is it off when typing and you keep getting bad letters up, I had that problem with the SGS2 someone mentioned it was a screen problem that it kept jumping
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mike freegan said:
You're stuck with the Google search box on you home screen. I hate this.
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Ugh.
This is going to be problematic with my live clock wallpaper that is displayed at the top of the screen. Anyone else use WP Clock?
Here's an example of the live wallpaper I'm talking about:

luffyp said:
Good lord. That's a lot of negatives. Thanks for the honest review for undecided minds like me. Just two questions. If you use a 3rd party launcher (for example adw) will the google search bar still be present? Secondly, how does the GPS perform in terms of fix time and accuracy? Does barometer really help GPS fix time? Thanks
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Well you have to bare in mind that ICS is a big over haul, so if we were to list all the positives it would be a pretty big list. I am just venting my negatives of the device, but when you compare them to how good the device is they really are small and I would rather have this handset than any other. I forked out for both my SGS2 and the Galaxy Nexus sim free and i am not dissapointed with either. If you are undecided on whether to upgrade you have to look at the fact that this phone does have everything, is a developer phone and has ICS written specifically for it. I would say go for it.
If you use a 3rd party launcher the Google search will not be present, my GPS has been excellent, I have used it for a few car journeys and it is just as good as my SGS2 which was superb.

jms.flynn said:
Well you have to bare in mind that ICS is a big over haul, so if we were to list all the positives it would be a pretty big list. I am just venting my negatives of the device, but when you compare them to how good the device is they really are small and I would rather have this handset than any other. I forked out for both my SGS2 and the Galaxy Nexus sim free and i am not dissapointed with either. If you are undecided on whether to upgrade you have to look at the fact that this phone does have everything, is a developer phone and has ICS written specifically for it. I would say go for it.
If you use a 3rd party launcher the Google search will not be present, my GPS has been excellent, I have used it for a few car journeys and it is just as good as my SGS2 which was superb.
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Yep I know, ICS seems to be the biggest change among the previous Android versions. Together with Google & developers' support, it's why I want to jump ship to the Nexus line. At the moment I'm leaning towards it, just wanna read more reviews. Although the volume adjusting problem that many people are having is a bit of a concern. Hopefully it will be fixed by a software update.

Do I have a defective note 4?

Ok so I'm trying to find out if maybe I just have a defective note 4
Ive been a phone guy for over 12 years now and I know when a phone is laggy
I came from the iPhone 5s to the note 4 by the way
I notice lag on opening app transitions, on the messaging app when I send a text the bubble should come out nice and fluid with the processor this phone has
On the browser it just does not feel fluid
I am really wanting to go to an iPhone 6 but they have been sold out since launch

XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Ok so I'm trying to find out if maybe I just have a defective note 4
Ive been a phone guy for over 12 years now and I know when a phone is laggy
I came from the iPhone 5s to the note 4 by the way
I notice lag on opening app transitions, on the messaging app when I send a text the bubble should come out nice and fluid with the processor this phone has
On the browser it just does not feel fluid
I am really wanting to go to an iPhone 6 but they have been sold out since launch
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You probably don't have a defective Note 4. Here are a couple of things you can try:
--Do a Factory Reset. This will wipe your phone clean, to include whatever apps you have downloaded, but it will give your phone a fresh start. This would be the last option I did.
--Try a different launcher. Apex, Nova etc. There are many good launcher replacements on the Play Store. This is a free version of each launcher and a paid version which gives you more flexibility and ability to adjust settings. Most launchers enable you to adjust animation and in most cases you can turn animations off all together. I use Nova and love it.
--Enable Developer Option on your phone (menu>settings>about phone and tap on model about seven times). This will option Developers Options and then you can go into Developer Options and adjust other settings what might eliminate the lag. However, I would try the different launcher option before this one also.

Might be defective, if a factory reset doesn't help then I'd exchange it. Reducing the animation scale in developer options will speed up animations but changing the launcher won't help you with browser performance. Again I've had a note 4 since day one and don't have any of those problems, and from the sound of it you really want an iphone, with that being said that's the case you're not gonna be 100% satisfied until u get the device you want. Hope that helps.

True
Hope android l does some good to android cause I like the functionality but can't give up fluidity for functionality.. You would think with these huge processors this phone would take whatever you throw at it
Factory reset n I've only had it for a week?

XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
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Hope android l does some good to android cause I like the functionality but can't give up fluidity for functionality.. You would think with these huge processors this phone would take whatever you throw at it
Factory reset n I've only had it for a week?
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I have a defective note 4. And I've been noticing a bunch of them don't have the same performance.
I ran antutu benchmarks on my first note 4 and got around 47k which is normal.
On my new one(which I will be exchanging) I consistently get 43-44k.
I recently ran the same test on two note 4 edge and they consistently got 44k.
They are suppose to get 47k or better.
I'm not sure what the deal is.
-Wizzle

My device was laggy right off the bat. I let the device settle, installed the apps I needed, uninstalled/turned off apps I'm not going to use, installed Nova, and now there's virtually no lag. I also changed the display setting so there wasn't such a burgundy tint. It appears to be running pretty good now - better than my Note 3 ever did.

i've noticed a lag on mine at random times in no particular app or browser. the phone is still working but the touchscreen is unresponsive. if i'm playing a game or watching a video, the game or video plays seemlessly but i can't do anything with the phone for about 3-4 seconds.
can't figure it out.

There is some phones that are lag filled and it is a defective unit.
My first was one, even Samsung called it a lemon and said to replace it, so my second has been perfect.
Mine was a touch lag
- I could type 2 wards before the keys animated or words showed
- same with Spen
- same lag touching the screen with a long delay between touch and reaction

I discovered my retail one had faulty cores. Between cpu-z and antutu scores really low. It was easy to discover.. Also turn off HDR mode on your camera.. In the settings that helps with camera lag who has issues there.

Best Current Advice for new Fire Phone user? (battery life, reduce heat, carousel)

Just starting out with the Fire Phone, unlocked version being used with T-Mobile.
Found the YouTube instructional video for loading the Google Play Store and got it to work fine after about 27 updates to the phone and store downloaded.
After trying a half dozen different launchers, went back to the stock version as seemed to work the smoothest and couldn't get any others to do what I wanted anyway.
Questions for current users:
1. Phone gets warmer than any phone I've used before. Is this normal?
2. Any way to dock a useful time/date widget and a weather widget on the home screen (or front of the Carousel)?
3. Any way to get rid of or minimize the mostly useless Carousel without using a different launcher? I'd rather see my wallpaper and place a few icons around the screen, then it'd be perfect.
4. If no way to remove the Carousel without using a different launcher, is there a launcher that gives a simple, clean interface and the ability to have your own wallpaper, a date/time and weather widget on home screen, and standard icon and icon folder placement ability? None of the ones I tried gave me that. I find it bizarre that custom wallpaper is not a standard option on every single launcher.
5. Battery life is pretty bad. Walking around for just about two hours yesterday playing Pokemon Go drained my 100% battery entirely. Is that normal?
6. I'm seeing people mention "turning off fancy stuff" and the like in threads here to improve battery life, but cannot find where anyone says what specifically to turn off or how to turn it off...help?
7. Any way to customize the left-hand tilt menu? It is mostly useless links...the "Music" link doesn't even go to Prime Music -- what's up with that? I'd like to customize what gets launched from the links, but it seems impossible.
8. The "swipe up" back button feature is really annoying as it is so picky and just plain doesn't work in some situations and some apps. Any way to improve it?
9. Any way to tell what apps are currently running to close some? My last phone would show the list if you held down the main button, but this phone just brings up a microphone service when I do that.
10. Is Alexa on the Fire Phone a junior version? It can't do anything I ask it and I'm used to Alexa from my Fire TV. I want to do stuff like "Alexa Play Adele" or "Alexa What Time is It?" but it just shows the "I can't do that" text. (On a related point...any way to get the "Okay Google..." talking function?)
11. Is the GPS a bit weak? Maps don't always load, rather annoying.
12. When I'm talking on the phone, I can't figure out how to get the screen to turn on again if I have to enter numbers, change speakerphone, or check something. Others phones just automatically turn on when I take it away from my ear, but the screen just stays off with this one. Is there a button to push to get it turn on again?
My primary uses for the phone are Prime Music, the Camera, and texting, so it is really a great phone for me. With more reliable mapping, better battery life, and a good back button, it'd be an excellent phone despite the other above gripes.
If you can help with any of the above questions, that'd be great. Thanks!

Stock launcher very restrictive you'll need a third party one to have custom options. That's not as easy as it sounds as not all support widgets on fire phone. I use lucid launcher which does. Mine doesn't heat up much, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone. Double click button for running app display.

try install custom rom like MIUI, I am using MIUI in my fire phone and its really fun... apart from few minor bugs like switching camera it's a great rom, boost battery time, heat up problem solved and very fast rom as compare to stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/miui-7-6-3-20-fire-phone-t3412344

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Stock launcher very restrictive you'll need a third party one to have custom options. That's not as easy as it sounds as not all support widgets on fire phone. I use lucid launcher which does. Mine doesn't heat up much, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone. Double click button for running app display.
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Thanks, I'll look at Lucid Launcher -- wasn't one of the ones I tried.

kingtymur said:
try install custom rom like MIUI, I am using MIUI in my fire phone and its really fun... apart from few minor bugs like switching camera it's a great rom, boost battery time, heat up problem solved and very fast rom as compare to stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/miui-7-6-3-20-fire-phone-t3412344
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Unfortunately, if I'm understanding other threads, camera function is iffy for everything except FireOS. Since the most important part of this phone is the camera for me (tied with messaging), it looks like I need to stick to stock on that.
Frustrating though as I really like the look of that MIUI 7 you linked. I wish I had time to give it a shot just to see if the camera is still good enough.
Thanks.

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Thanks, I'll look at Lucid Launcher -- wasn't one of the ones I tried.
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I'm using nova and widgets work fine as long as you move the app to /system, but you'll need root for that.

dato02 said:
I'm using nova and widgets work fine as long as you move the app to /system, but you'll need root for that.
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Which unfortunately means camera issues on the Fire, so not good for my situation. :/

FeuerFon said:
Which unfortunately means camera issues on the Fire, so not good for my situation. :/
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Root itself doesn't cause issues with the camera, it's roms other than stock.

Try Nova Launcher With Hd Packs...

Is Android P DP2 stable enough for daily driver?

I really want to get the beta. If people are running it, is it stable enough for daily use? Thanks

I've been using it for a few days now. I've not had and crashes or major issues. The only issues I've experienced are the recent apps screen sometimes not responding to touch when using gesture navigation (hit the home button and try again fixes) and the screen brightness is stupidly bright. Like really stupidly bright. I use it on the lowest setting all the time. Even with the slider at about 10% the screen is way too bright for me.

It is very stable, no major issues....just a few glitches like no weather in lock screen.

Yes, even dp1 was very good for my usage...

I agree that it is very stable for its age. If you use the Nova Launcher, you will not see apps in the drawer right now.

So from the sound of it, it would pass for daily driver. I rely on my phone for work heavily and want to make sure I can get by with the beta because I'm dying to try the new version

For me.... Yes. For others.... Maybe not. I can tell you it is very solid.

I am finding it to be quite solid. No issues at all so far after a few days. Battery life seems good too.
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For me.... Yes. For others.... Maybe not. I can tell you it is very solid.
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It's been usable without any crashes, reboots, or shutdowns. But given that it just came out yesterday, using it only for one day doesn't really give an idea if it's stable enough for everyday usage. A week of usage would give a better idea as phone/app usage can alter per day and cause some issues.
It's just silly to label something as "stable" after running it for less than 24 hours.

Hows the mic on recording with android P?

Mines been going pretty well... I'm using it as my daily driver. Only issues is a rare freeze when trying to switch apps. Shutting off the screen fixed it for me. And once the Bluetooth wouldn't connect properly to my car...a restart fixed it. Battery and everything else has been good.

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It is very stable, no major issues....just a few glitches like no weather in lock screen.
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change to card app drawer. they will work then
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how do I make my toggles white and blue?????
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Daily driver ready? Sure.. I had to bail due to some unforseen issues with a few core apps that I depend on. Sounds silly, but my visual voicemail with AT&T is important. A few other apps are acting a fool but nothing major. Just found a few things a bit wonky, if that's the right word? I'll flash again tonight though, it's what I do! See if I can figure out what's going on with the visual voicemail app. On 8.1 it just 'verifies' my info with AT&T via a text. On P it asks for a PIN which I enter, but it never does much else. Interesting!! Way too far off to complain to ATT though...

If you use Outlook and OneDrive, you might have issues. Can't open either and just get crashes.
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If you use Outlook and OneDrive, you might have issues. Can't open either and just get crashes.
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I dont use Outlook, but OneDrive works fine for me. Maybe try uninstall/re-install, or clear app data.
I rarely use the MS app though, I prefer to just use Solid Explorer to access OneDrive.

I am having great experience with P beta..getting a dope battery life too..for a beta build! But the only issue i have is.. Snapchat crashes as hell! Leaving that..very good one as a daily driver..and very smooth too!

It's been very good for me. No app crashes except for Snapchat, which can be fixed relatively painlessly through a clear data and relogin, especially with autofill. I've also updated it to the latest beta that they updated on May 9th. No other apps have FC'd so far, but then again you may be using different ones. All the basic functionality works fine, camera, settings, etc. Only hiccup sometimes is the new multitasking setup will occasionally throw up a small stutter, but it quickly fixes itself.

The only issues I've noticed so far, and they're not that bad:
1) Bug with the Nova app drawer. You have to use "Card" or "Vertical Scrolling" to get your icons to appear, otherwise they're invisible (but still "clickable"). It's obviously a Nova Launcher "bug" and not a Android "P" problem though. The stock Launcher (and many other 3rd party launchers) work perfectly.
2) For me, the "upcoming alarm" appearing on the lock screen or at the top of the new quick tiles menu make no sense on my phone. The upcoming alarm on the lock screen always shows the current time + 10 minutes (For example if its' 9:04PM, the upcoming alarm will show 9:14pm) In the quick tiles menu, the next alarm always shows "00:00am" or "06:00am" randomly. The alarms work normally. Cosmetic bug
Can someone confirm they're experiencing the same problem?
3) Here and there, you'll notice the animations can be sluggish and not as smooth as with Oreo, the screen takes a little bit longer to turn on and unlocking the phone with the fingerprint scanner is a little bit slower than with Oreo. It's not unbearable though, just noticeable
4) I have an "iBaby" monitor in my son's room and from time to time, the app will FC right after launching, but will launch normally 2 seconds later. I'll blame the app for that and not Android.
Otherwise, battery life is great, the phone is very stable (no FCs on Android processes and 99,999% of the apps I use), it feels fast (except for some sluggish animations I mentioned before), phone calls work, camera works great, Quick Charge works, Google Cast / Chromecast work, no major issues so far
Overall, it's pretty stable for an early beta and I wouldn't hesitate to give it a try, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it a lot. All the small refinements it comes with already makes it superior to Oreo imo despite its beta status. Can't wait to give the DP3 a try next month

Samsung Gear doesn't work

Very good for me so far. Only been a day, but so far am actually liking it better than 8.1.0! Nothing making me feel that I'll go back.
Only thing - when I use Action Launcher, the back button never disappears from the navigation bar - even when on the home screen. Guess it perceives the phone as still having an app active.
Ah well, making me give stock launcher another chance - though I miss my covers and shutters ?
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Daily driver ready? Sure.. I had to bail due to some unforseen issues with a few core apps that I depend on. Sounds silly, but my visual voicemail with AT&T is important. A few other apps are acting a fool but nothing major. Just found a few things a bit wonky, if that's the right word? I'll flash again tonight though, it's what I do! See if I can figure out what's going on with the visual voicemail app. On 8.1 it just 'verifies' my info with AT&T via a text. On P it asks for a PIN which I enter, but it never does much else. Interesting!! Way too far off to complain to ATT though...
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That sucks re: your visual voicemail - one of the first things I checked after flash. Happily it works on Telus here in Canada.

Question Software Annoyances!

Hello everyone,
Just received my new phone a few days back. Love how it looks, my first ZTE phone.
A few questions:
1. When I set maps navigation, and press home, it won't go picture in picture, the screen flashes like it's going to, then does nothing.
2. In most apps swiping back or home button requires a second swipe for confirmation. Can this be disabled, as just my other phones didn't have this with maps or many other apps?

我的 LINE 也沒辦法正常提醒。

1. It works well on mine with Google maps. I think you probably need to go to settings of that navigation app and allow picture-in-picture
2. If you don't want the confirm, you need to turn off the "full screen anti-false touch".

XDA members, I am having issues with trying to close ALL background apps on my Nubia 8 Pro. What occurs on my device when I attempt to close all background apps, there is always 1 remaining which I have to swipe away manually??? There aren't any locks on my apps, and it happens randomly. I don't understand why this occurs when I hit the circled "X" to close and afterwards it states "Accelerated".
Any thoughts??? It is very annoying to say the least.

Same problem, except when I check all my apps are still opened lol.

GodKingKnight said:
Same problem, except when I check all my apps are still opened lol.
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Exactly right!!! Little nuisances like this are what is causing me frustrations! I am hoping this gets fixed in a software update release soon or custom ROM's.
There is also the issue with blocking Heads-up pop-ups in apps. They still continue to occur.

TYMO68 said:
Exactly right!!! Little nuisances like this are what is causing me frustrations! I am hoping this gets fixed in a software update release soon or custom ROM's.
There is also the issue with blocking Heads-up pop-ups in apps. They still continue to occur.
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Yeah I'm coming from a Xiaomi 12S Ultra. Big differences in software. MIUI 14 is very crisp and finely trimmed.
Red Magic as a first experience from a software perspective has not been great.
Hoping for an update soon. So far issues with swipe gestures, fingerprint takes much too long to register, multitasking is an issue, should be able to remap things like the switch on the side, and the shoulder triggers.
There's a lot of work that needs to be done.
Beautiful design though.

So I'm reading on the reddit thread that there are certain fingerprint animations that make the fingerprint recognition better and faster. Anyone confirm this one and maybe suggest the best animation?

That wouldn't make any sense. It should project the same amount of light through for detection no matter which animation.

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That wouldn't make any sense. It should project the same amount of light through for detection no matter which animation.
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Yet I just received a response from him saying that with the 4th fingerprint animation counting from left to right he hasn't missed a single one today while yesterday he had a 70% success rate. How is your fingerprint sensor? Any fails? Which is your animation?

Good day, I am experiencing this capped 5g connection using rm8, speed is capped at 34-ish mbps, while 2.4g is at 150+, using same network with galaxy note 9, both bands reaches 200+mbps

GodKingKnight said:
Yeah I'm coming from a Xiaomi 12S Ultra. Big differences in software. MIUI 14 is very crisp and finely trimmed.
Red Magic as a first experience from a software perspective has not been great.
Hoping for an update soon. So far issues with swipe gestures, fingerprint takes much too long to register, multitasking is an issue, should be able to remap things like the switch on the side, and the shoulder triggers.
There's a lot of work that needs to be done.
Beautiful design though.
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Hi , can you tell me what's happened with multitasking ?

The latest update has fixed this issue.

Register the Same finger Multiple times!!!
I have the same Finger registered 3 time and I have yet to have a problem.
it does have issues with just 1 register.
I can say that the Fingerprint reader in my Asus ROG 3 phone was way worse then this one.
i couldn't even use the one in the ROG phone

TYMO68 said:
XDA members, I am having issues with trying to close ALL background apps on my Nubia 8 Pro. What occurs on my device when I attempt to close all background apps, there is always 1 remaining which I have to swipe away manually??? There aren't any locks on my apps, and it happens randomly. I don't understand why this occurs when I hit the circled "X" to close and afterwards it states "Accelerated".
Any thoughts??? It is very annoying to say the least.
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China OEMs are like that. Even Oneplus oxygenOS, xiaomi MIUI also the doing the same. If you are using whatsapp, and u cleared the recent tasks at the whatsapp screen, the whatsapp will still be opened. The only way u can clear all recents is to exit from whatsapp first to home screen, and clear all.
I dont even get the reason why they do that and cant just clear everything from the recents page

I also realised PIP in youtube doesnt work when using gesture navigation. The only wait to trigger PIP to work for youtube is to keep swiping back till the youtube app exits..
Just by swiping up to home screen doesnt trigger PIP

keyoke87 said:
I also realised PIP in youtube doesnt work when using gesture navigation. The only wait to trigger PIP to work for youtube is to keep swiping back till the youtube app exits..
Just by swiping up to home screen doesnt trigger PIP
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It does pip if you swipe to home when you are in fullscreen mode or when you press a notification from another app. Same happens for every app that supports pip that I have tried.

giannis808 said:
It does pip if you swipe to home when you are in fullscreen mode or when you press a notification from another app. Same happens for every app that supports pip that I have tried.
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Wierdly why need to be in full screen in full screen it works

Translation is horrible. Hungarian language is missing on most part and software update menu is displayed in Spanish istead of Hungarian or English.

GodKingKnight said:
Yeah I'm coming from a Xiaomi 12S Ultra. Big differences in software. MIUI 14 is very crisp and finely trimmed.
Red Magic as a first experience from a software perspective has not been great.
Hoping for an update soon. So far issues with swipe gestures, fingerprint takes much too long to register, multitasking is an issue, should be able to remap things like the switch on the side, and the shoulder triggers.
There's a lot of work that needs to be done.
Beautiful design though.
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@GodKingKnight, have there been any improvements in the UI and those pesky nuisances that plagued the RedMagic 8 Pro since the past few updates have rolled out? I ended up selling mine to go with a folding device, but I am considering picking it back up again.... that is given the firmware updates have addressed much of the issues that plagued the device in its initial release.