I had one for a while, gave it away, even though it's been one and a half years I still miss the damn thing's battery life.
I want to buy one and root/unlock it but I read it's hard to do and all, not sure what to do at this point, I feel like it's a waste of money especially with the Moto G7 Power coming soon.
What is your advice?
Unlocking bootloader is easy but you need to wait 2 weeks after accepting terms. Lenovo solved the issue with thier unlock server. As an poweruser I can tell you this phone have some disadvantages like audio quality (you can literally hear some electrical breakdowns(?) on lower volumes on speaker and headphones (less than on speaker)), camera quality isn't too good either but otherwise this phone is great and worth it. If you wonder about ROM support then I can tell you that P2 is skyrocketing now. You can expect LineageOS 16 soon, probably on day 1 official release of this Lineage iteration if you're interested. Currently it has some 'difficulties' on 15.1 when it comes to installing ROM but we've been told that they are fixed already. These 'difficulties' are related to F2FS so you need to take proper steps to resolve them completely (especially if you want to use Magisk) or just use EXT4 to skip them for now. Personally I can recommend this device.
Running Pie 9.0 with awesome battery life is a reason not to buy any other phone.
12 hours SOT up to 15-20 hours SOT, show me another phone that can do it.
I remember the bad old days of 3-4 hours on my other phones.
Treboeth said:
Running Pie 9.0 with awesome battery life is a reason not to buy any other phone.
12 hours SOT up to 15-20 hours SOT, show me another phone that can do it.
I remember the bad old days of 3-4 hours on my other phones.
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May I ask, which ROM are you using for this SoT? I've been testing some Pie ROMs here and there, but all of them show lower battery backup than the Oreo ones I've used.
Kazuhiro Yasei said:
May I ask, which ROM are you using for this SoT? I've been testing some Pie ROMs here and there, but all of them show lower battery backup than the Oreo ones I've used.
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Using Accubattery App my battery is showing 87% of the original capacity from the factory,not bad for a two year old phone I think.
On this charge I used the led light as a torch for about 45 minutes(working on car interior)
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Using Accubattery App my battery is showing 87% of the original capacity from the factory,not bad for a two year old phone I think.
On this charge I used the led light as a torch for about 45 minutes(working on car interior)
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I use AccuBattery, too. It's an AMAZING app, purchased the Pro version without even thinking twice. Though I probably wrote my real question poorly, it was meant to be "Which Pie ROM are you using? All the ones I tested have some sort of battery drain issue."
CrDroid, Xtended MSM and Liquidremix have solid idle drain for me and good battery life overall. My battery line is almost horizontal when not in use which is a good sign!
I also recommend using Wakelock Blocker, found on the playstore to block wakelocks.(there are a few guides on xda on which you gotta block without affecting daily usage).
But don't use wakelock blocker on havoc, since it will bootloop on that rom.
Kazuhiro Yasei said:
I use AccuBattery, too. It's an AMAZING app, purchased the Pro version without even thinking twice. Though I probably wrote my real question poorly, it was meant to be "Which Pie ROM are you using? All the ones I tested have some sort of battery drain issue."
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No you didn't ask the question poorly, I started answering on the mobile site and then copy&pasted onto Tapatalk so I could post a screenshot easier.
I missed copying the first two lines :silly:
I use havoc on Pie and it gives me the screenshot SOT
I also seeking around. Umidigi F1 and Asus max M2 are two 5000 mah battery with the same dimensions but bigger screen (LCD).
I don't remember about Lenovo p30 specs.
2 years passed and technology is so fast.
I've been looking at the Asus ZenFone Max Pro M2 and Umidigi F1. Apart from the large battery (and probably a camera that easily beats P2's mediocre one), IMHO they don't seem to offer such a significant upgrade over our dear P2.
I find it somewhat strange almost 3 years after P2's release.
You could argue that I should get a high-end device for better specs. And I would, but it's hard to give up on such an amazing battery with an unbeatable screen-on time. Just look at GEMarena battery tests - P2 is the champ. [emoji16][emoji123]
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There is no comparison between p2 and max m2 other than the battery. M2 has got a much better processor, and moreover it will have a bigger Dev support for custom roms and other tweaking as it's sales is much higher than p2.
I wouldn't select p2 over m2.
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There is no comparison between p2 and max m2 other than the battery. M2 has got a much better processor, and moreover it will have a bigger Dev support for custom roms and other tweaking as it's sales is much higher than p2.
I wouldn't select p2 over m2.
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I'd rather say just better than much better processor in favour of the M2. Likewise, I wouldn't choose buying P2 over the M2 in 2019. However, I already own a P2 and if I'm going to upgrade it better be worthwhile.
Btw, more I research the more I'm getting Impressed by the Umidigi F1. It has a beautiful display, a huge battery and a decent processor that might even outperform the M2's SD660.
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I'm looking for umidigi F1 too but I can't find any info.
I buied an umidigi before the p2 and it had bad screen response. Do you find any reviews?
mysteres said:
I'm looking for umidigi F1 too but I can't find any info.
I buied an umidigi before the p2 and it had bad screen response. Do you find any reviews?
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I picked one up on a whim. I'm very impressed on the whole
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Hope Xiaomi releases a device with InDisplay FP. That's the only way where we can get all -
1. Amoled (because of InDisplay FP)
2. ~4000Mah
3. Great Dev Support.
Fingers crossed.
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Unlocking bootloader is easy but you need to wait 2 weeks after accepting terms. Lenovo solved the issue with thier unlock server. As an poweruser I can tell you this phone have some disadvantages like audio quality (you can literally hear some electrical breakdowns(?) on lower volumes on speaker and headphones (less than on speaker)), camera quality isn't too good either but otherwise this phone is great and worth it. If you wonder about ROM support then I can tell you that P2 is skyrocketing now. You can expect LineageOS 16 soon, probably on day 1 official release of this Lineage iteration if you're interested. Currently it has some 'difficulties' on 15.1 when it comes to installing ROM but we've been told that they are fixed already. These 'difficulties' are related to F2FS so you need to take proper steps to resolve them completely (especially if you want to use Magisk) or just use EXT4 to skip them for now. Personally I can recommend this device.
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I agree with this, but if you want a great audio and better camera quality you should go with Mi Max 3 or Redmi Note 7. Personally i wanting Mi Max 4 for make the change.
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Hope Xiaomi releases a device with InDisplay FP. That's the only way where we can get all -
1. Amoled (because of InDisplay FP)
2. ~4000Mah
3. Great Dev Support.
Fingers crossed.
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this is the main reason to keep the P2 and wait for a Xiaomi device with Amoled display with ind-fp + snapdragon 7xx and at least 4000mah support.
Asus m2 has nice specs but the kernel changes that Asus does to their phones is extremely disliked by official los devs. they like to compare it with things you flash down the toilet and they stay far far away from it.
if you want to keep stock. go with it but if you hope for it to get official lineages anytime. stay away from it.
Xiaomi on the other hand does a decent job when it comes to kernel work. they even gave the Xiaomi Mi A1 (tissot) an kernel version upgrade. which is almost never done by any vendor for devices already on the market. the device was shipped with a kernel version 3.18.xx and now it's at 4.9.161.
besides specs I would always consider the software side. software upgrade policy. (Android One)
if you prefer the openess for custom roms. then especially kernel work and support of the vendor. possibility of a closed source driver or fully missing driver that wasn't pushed into the released kernel. for example missing in-display fingerprint drivers in some very recent vendor kernels.
To answer your question, yes, it's still worth!
I'm amazed by the battery life and the community support.
No phone for me has come anywhere near my love with this one, I lost the touch id capabilities due to hardware failure but apart from that, this phone has it all (Amoled, 5000mah, TouchID, support, 5000 mAh...)
Even the weaker camera can be manageable with the right app.
I love my p2, I would buy one again only because of the custom ROMs.
I used to be against cheap Samsung phones but I think the new M20 and M30 are the spiritual successors to P2. Think about it, a 5000 mAh battery, an AMOLED display and an efficient processor for people who are more into media consumption than gaming. They check all the boxes why I love my P2 and I think I might pick one of them up as my next phone since my P2 is getting old.
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Elephone G6 - Beyond your imagination with 5.0" IPS screen, MT6592 1.7GHz with fingerprint scanner
With ergonomic design, the radian on the phone back can perfectly fit for the shape of the palm of your hand, furthermore, the skin-touch material bring you comfortable hand feeling. 5.0" IPS screen,1280*720 pixels, ppi=293, the parameter configuration is the good basis of amazing visuing effects, we especially did many alignments for the display.
Built in MT6592 cpu, the frequency has reach to 1.7GHz, with Mali-450 MP4 700MHz GPU. Powerful performance make it easy to deal with any app in your daily using, with low power consumption as the same time. Advanced camera with 13 million pixels, f/2.2 larger light-sensing surface area faster focusing speed and higher focusing accuracy, all those improvement will you better photo experience.
G6 is equipped with a fingerprint scanner, which could be used for locking screen or set encipherment protection for apps, that can guard your privacy. Double tab the screen to wake it up; and set your customized gesture as short cut to open certain function when the screen is off.
Highlights
- 5.0 inch HD IPS, 1280*720 pixels
- MTK6592 1.7GHz Octa-core
- 1GB RAM + 8 GB ROM
- 13MP rear camera + 2MP front camera
- Standard SIM card + micro SIM card, dual standby
- Android OS, 4.4.2 KitKat
- Support 3G Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/1900/2100 MHz
- Support Fingerprint ID, Gesture Recognition, GPS, OTG, etc.
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I like the phone's characteristics but I'm concerned about the battery life. Only 2250mAh for eight cores is a bit weak. What do you think?
Do you expect the phone to have any support for the upgrade to Android L or to any other alternative upgrade?
I just purchased this phone.
I think for 102Eur is a great phone. If it have some problems, it isn't the only one. All chinneses phones have problems everywhere. The thing is if it compensates what you paid for it.
I also ordered it. I'm still waiting for it but I hope I won't be dissapointed. I hope that it will have some support (new ROMs, firmware updates etc.), since there has been a lot of interest in preorder period.
Zer7 said:
I just purchased this phone.
I think for 102Eur is a great phone. If it have some problems, it isn't the only one. All chinneses phones have problems everywhere. The thing is if it compensates what you paid for it.
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I also ordered it. I'm still waiting for it but I hope I won't be dissapointed. I hope that it will have some support (new ROMs, firmware updates etc.), since there has been a lot of interest in preorder period.
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I think the official launch is on 9th Oct. We will wait at least two weeks more to put our hands in it.
Elephone p2000 at least seems that has good support and Elephone releases new roms when is needed. Also, every Elephone has been rooted easily, so that's good. Take also into consideration that we're with Android 4.4.2 .. other phones are still with 4.2 or 4.0, so we're updated for a few years with this version.
I think we take a good decision, and believe me, I search the whole internet and this is the best phone I found for this price. :good:
We just have to keep this topic alive, so that we can discuss about the phone once we get it. I already own a chinese phone with MTK6577 and 512MB RAM, Android 4.0 and I've been very satisfied with it. So obviously Elephone g6 should be a big improvement for me. I also like to do some improvements to the phone when possible, that's why I'm hoping for good support.
As far as the price-quality is concerned, I'm sure there is no better phone on the market at the moment. Only the battery still worries me...
Hopefully we'll get it ASAP.
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We just have to keep this topic alive, so that we can discuss about the phone once we get it. I already own a chinese phone with MTK6577 and 512MB RAM, Android 4.0 and I've been very satisfied with it. So obviously Elephone g6 should be a big improvement for me. I also like to do some improvements to the phone when possible, that's why I'm hoping for good support.
As far as the price-quality is concerned, I'm sure there is no better phone on the market at the moment. Only the battery still worries me...
Hopefully we'll get it ASAP.
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I own a Sony Xperia Neo (1Ghz, 512mb ram, 384mb of memory to apps, 3.7'' and Android 4.0 ... slow as hell!) so this G6 should be a big improvement to me too! the only thing that my Xperia will be better is the camera and flash, so, we will see
The phone should be shipped in 9th, so -2 days!
Bad news guys: http://www.elephone.hk/readNews/1052.html
I'm thinking about cancel my order and purchase another phone ...
Zer7 said:
Bad news guys: http://www.elephone.hk/readNews/1052.html
I'm thinking about cancel my order and purchase another phone ...
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I would just wait, all the new Chinese models will be a little delayed because of the Chinese national holidays. Not only from Elephone but also from all the other Chinese brands. And I think it is good that they tell the truth, and actually do the tests properly before they ship the phones out to all the end customers. So we don't will be having problems in the end.
I agree, just wait for one more week. If you waited that long, one week isn't that much
I look forward to getting a good product, hopefully well tested and with some suport and updates available in the future.
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I agree, just wait for one more week. If you waited that long, one week isn't that much
I look forward to getting a good product, hopefully well tested and with some suport and updates available in the future.
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I want to wait, but I can't!
We hope that the product is at least good, with good support and few updates.
Still no one received the phone?
Myefox delayed shipments without explain nothing... Look for some hands on until place my order!!
Wonder if anyone has received this phone yet I am looking for a budget smartphone to replace my nightmare Samsung Galaxy ace which is getting near the end of its contract.
My situation is I done a google search for a Blackview Crown review- 5inch Octa core Android 4.4 Smartphone 2GB Ram 16GB Rom and found the following thread on this site -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/blackview-crown-review-5inch-octa-core-t2844265
Someone on there said he thought this phone would be better and a few other agreed, however I cant really find much first hand feedback on this phone.
I know nothing about rooting phones I am a basic user who just wants a reasonable smart phone but my existing phone does have a huge amount of bloatware that i dont use so would not like that on a new phone.
Just wanted to keep this thread alive as this phones looks perfect I am in the UK where the cost of this is just over £92 or $150 and using the Three network on the 800MHZ band so was hoping people could give it the thumbs up.
Thanks
Ian
I expect to get the phone on monday. I will be able to tell some more then... Finally!
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I expect to get the phone on monday. I will be able to tell some more then... Finally!
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waiting for your review. specially please post some camera samples. Im worried about the camera performance. thank you very much.
I received the phone. So far it looks good. Touchscreen is very responsive, no other preinstalled apps. OS really is Android 4.4.2 KitKat as stated. It has also already come rooted as SuperSU. Antutu Benchmark score is 29004.
Links to the pictures made with the phone's camera:
http://picoolio.net/image/PDk
http://picoolio.net/image/PDv
http://picoolio.net/image/PDz
http://picoolio.net/image/PDE
http://picoolio.net/image/PDM
http://picoolio.net/image/PDP
And plus a quick overview of the phone. The video is mostly out of focus but this is all the time I had.
http://youtu.be/NCTu6gl_Uhw
Images look pretty good!
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Hi. Can you add some more photos? I'm quite interested in buying this phone to my wife, but I'm afraid about camera quality, and battery life. So can you say something about it? And generally your opinion about whole phone.
Thank you in advance.
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I received the phone. So far it looks good. Touchscreen is very responsive, no other preinstalled apps. OS really is Android 4.4.2 KitKat as stated. It has also already come rooted as SuperSU. Antutu Benchmark score is 29004.
Links to the pictures made with the phone's camera:
http://picoolio.net/image/PDk
http://picoolio.net/image/PDv
http://picoolio.net/image/PDz
http://picoolio.net/image/PDE
http://picoolio.net/image/PDM
http://picoolio.net/image/PDP
And plus a quick overview of the phone. The video is mostly out of focus but this is all the time I had.
http://youtu.be/NCTu6gl_Uhw
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Im about to order a one too. camera certainly looks pretty good. and your input is highly appreciated and valuble. thank you for that first. and also do all of us some more favor, please include your comment on following points,
1. some more camera pics in low light and normal indoor conditions.
2. mobile signal strength, wifi strength compared to your other mobile.
3. and another most importantly, music quality through a good headset and normal speaker strength for ringing.
4. I found some chinese devices have very low earpiece volume. how's it on the g6?
5. And of course how about the battery time.
thank you again and we all are very grateful for your info I think.
Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?
TLxda-d said:
Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?
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Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.
senseijtitus said:
Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.
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Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.
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Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.
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I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.
senseijtitus said:
I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.
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But you did experience distortion from the speaker at some point? Did it also happen with the custom ROMs you tried?
And I actually have another question now: I read that it's better to buy the global P2a42 version if you're outside of China, but that many sellers take the Chinese P2c72 and simply change the firmware to the global one, then calling it "Global P2".
I can already see that there are band differences, and that not all of my local LTE bands are supported in the Chinese P2 (band 7 is missing, I didn't check regarding non-LTE bands). Are there any other differences?
And someone claimed that the 64gb/4gb RAM units are all by hardware Chinese P2c72. Is that true? I can't even find someone selling a non-64gb P2.
I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.
Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this
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I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.
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Do you have the real global version (P2a42 hardware)?
debo12345 said:
Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this
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What version of P2 you have? P2a42 or the Chinese P2c72?
Seeing how many different reports about bugs being fixed or not come from current users, it makes me think maybe it has something to do with the version of your unit and its compatibility with the firmware.
And I can't find any normal seller of the P2a42 version, what the hell...
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Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?
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Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?
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Well, the version sold in the UK must have been the actual ROW version. I can't find it available to me anywhere! And where it might be – it is sold for a crazy amount of money (and let's be real, it covers more frequencies but it is just 32gb vs 64gb). Why is this? Lenovo must still be manufacturing the P2a42 as it is still sold in East Asian stores, but I can't find any of them that ships abroad. Well, I found one Malaysian store that ships the P2a42 internationally, but it costs $300 already without the shipping and I'm from Israel, so they might not even ship to me (and they use DHL, which means 100% chance I'll have to pay an extra 17% when it arrives...).
It's really starting to seem to me like many of the complaints SOME of the userbase has is from using the non-ROW unit with a ROW ROM. Otherwise, I can't explain why everyone is saying they have the latest firmware but one is person is experiencing weird bugs and the other isn't.
And in specific regards to the frequency band coverage, I don't understand some of these Chinese sellers. Are they lying about the specifications, are they oblivious to the actual specifications, are do they just have access to some third kind of model? This frequency-support information for the P2a42 and then for the P2c72 came from the website pdadb.net (I found the links on XDA), and then there is the citation found on gearbest.com
This is some incoherent amalgam of the frequencies supported by either model, plus band 4 which isn't originally cited for either of them (though GSMArena does mention it, but it doesn't distinguish between the models and perhaps it's incorrect).
If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks
Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.
philje123 said:
Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.
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So, you don't have any bugs in video playback? Like stuttering
No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)
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No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)
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That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
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If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks
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What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?
I had P2a42 4GB-32GB version for about half a year ( 12/2016-06/2017 ) and it was great, no problems . Sold it only because the camera was nothing special. I now have LG G5se and have to charge it twice a day. Want to buy P2 again but with this bug i'm not realy sure if it would be a good idea.
Hope it only affects asian version.
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That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?
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You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd
Sporkyz said:
You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd
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Well, I downloaded the app and on my Xperia Z3 it says (under Google Widevine Modular DRM) Security Level L1. Is that what you were referring to, and does that mean Netflix doesn't allow my Z3 to stream in HD because of the DRM?
I don't watch Netflix on my phone too often, though I thought it possibly looks lower than HD – though it doesn't bother me too much on the smaller screen.
But I did google "Netflix DRM" after you mentioned this and some results about rooted devices not being able to run/download the Netflix app due to DRM change came up.
And does anyone know of some service, in India, which allows you to deliver an item you purchased from a non-international store to their own address and then they ship it internationally to you?
I barely find any options for a real P2a42, but there is this Indian website Flipkart where they sell it for a reasonable price, only problem is they solely ship within India. I don't remember how are these called, but I heard of a couple US-based warehouses through which you can ship (for example) Amazon items which normally can't be shipped to you.
You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.
razorsbk said:
You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.
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Yeah, but that is the Chinese version. They just changed the ROM to the international one.
Check the supported frequency bands on a different website to see if the P2c72 model will actually work with your local cellular network, but either way they both explained how OTA updating won't work with the units they sell, and I think there might be a higher chance for the reported bugs to happen on these modded Chinese P2's.
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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In reality I have not suggested any devices ?
Nokia could be a good choice for what I remember about its Zeiss Camera lenses, I could appreciate it on my Nokia Lumia which now it's gone to paradise.
I honestly am tempted to take the pixel 3a but I live in Brazil and here it is more expensive due to the importation taxes.
The K20 if I'm not wrong, is a bit strange to my eyes because it has a lifting camera jumping from the outside of the chassis.
The choice is not so easy also because the old Zuk-Z2 is working extremely well
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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Thanks. I can get a OnePlus 6T phone (pre-owned, 6-128, still in warranty) for about 75% of that of a new OnePlus 7's price. So, which one would be better? OnePlus 6T or 7? Or any other?
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
I would defenately go to k20 pro
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
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Stock OS as the pure Android running on a Google Pixel phone, from what I've heard have everything we need to forget about custom ROM.
Our device, thanks to its hardware is still pretty good to offer brilliant service for years to come.
The maior lacks, I IMHO can resume for Z2 are:
1 - A not superlative camera, beside its hw specs which are not the top of the market, probably has not been achieved the very best in terms of firmware and software to manage it at a better level.
2 - A not superlative sound in terms of loudness
Regards,
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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That's how I used my Z2 bro. It has a unique design (all phones where curved then) and it always stayed different from others. But there's one thing that I changed thrice and it was a bit more costly - battery. Also my phone is becoming slow and slow each day. Tried different ROMs, reduced number of apps. The phone is not performing well too. It is taking ages to click a photo. Also the earpiece speaker now started distorting, I've to use headset always for talking. There are other reasons here and there, so I think it is better to change my phone. That's why I asked for suggestion.
I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
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I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I really don't know why you had to replace your battery trice, I think it is a very seldom occurrence, nor I can say it happened due your usage, most likely it could be due you purchased a defective device.
About slowing down after time, I agree about the SSD consideration made by our buddy participating to this discussion because I recently red something about SSD since I'm going to replace my laptop HDD but also this kind of issue I believe it's happening seldom in smartphones.
I won't to cause frustrations writing that I've not noticed any slowness on my Zuk Z2 so far, just a little bit when I flashed Nameless kernel which was an EAS kernel.
Now on AEX 6.7 I'm using the default kernel which is giving to the Z2 an extremely fast responsiveness and smooth usability too.
I think I will try to run the SSD performance test suggested by our buddy (sorry I didn't wrote your name to mention it but you sent interesting comments indeed).
I'm sure that there are not many users affected by problems you are facing about slowness and battery, or better, it would be interesting to make a survey here on XDA to know how many people have such problems on their ZukZ2.
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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Very much interesting comments!
I think I will try to run the SSD benchmark but before I would like to ask you why you say that your results are bad?
Did you compared with another ZukZ2 user running similar environment?
About the battery we also have to take in account the adjustment we could have done to applications (running in background or not) the screen stby after X seconds, the charger we use, in fact there are plenty of chargers around that are not good for our battery but that are being used normally.
In any case your SOT looks very normal to me.
Regards,
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
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Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
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mcalistri said:
Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
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Sorry, the result of my benchmark is not visible externally so I'm attaching the screenshot here.
Regards,
Never used a nubia phone before, but looking at the specs and at £600 I'm interested. Whose buying this.
marvi0 said:
Never used a nubia phone before, but looking at the specs and at £600 I'm interested. Whose buying this.
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If you read through the support page of the red magic 5 and the rwd magic 3, you'll get an idea into what your paying for.
Almost non existinal software support outside of china. Some games like Pubg stop working on basically every update (of pubg) Nubia are months behind in fixing those bugs.
The 5s is over 5 months behind in updates, and still don't have Android 11.
Some software bugs like setting default apps for things like certain links to open in apps,
Reddit, youtube etc dont work.
The sd888 is currently over heating in every model of phone made with it. With exception of the RM6 but only if you use the Ice dock while gaming. So expect to need to buy that additional accessory to get the best performance out of the device. Or if not expect it to over heat a few minutes into any heavy high graphic / demanding game.
Sure maybe after some months of bug fixes it may be better, but yoy only need to read the 5s/5s unofficial support page to read how many things have been done and what people have been dealing with since buying Nubia's last phone.
... Personally im very happy with my purchase. RM5s with latest stock rom is solid. I dont play pubg so i dont care about the people moaning about it. Everyrhing else seems to run very well, with exception to the default apps selection not saving your choices to always open in this app, its a beast of a phone.
Sd888 overheating and using way more power than the 865, for almost the same performance for me personally is not worth it.
But if you do decide to to go for the RM6, good luck. Don't say you were not warned whwn something is not right and you get a cold shoulder from nubia support. Good prediction, Android 12 is get released for the chinese varient, but global will be left behind.
Like the series 3 and currently series 5.
There are rumors that android 11 will release for series 5 soon. But series 3 global is still over 11 months behind china and 2 versions of android behind china.
Expect to be ignored as soon as the next nubia device is announced.
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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You have to wait for the ROM update. In order to solve the problems you mentioned above Are you my customer in Thailand?
I've got one and I'm playing PUBG Mobile, Arena of Valor and Genshin Impact.
It's Chinese ROM but easy to install Play store by apk file, and remove all Chinese apps. Play store work perfectly, with Play Protect. I even think this is an global ROM.
It had not any issues, at least for 3 days I've been using it.
Just preordered, was between this or the rog phone 5.
I like to try new manufacturers so never having tried red magic before was a factor. The 2 biggest negatives for me on the red magic 6 is that the 5g is only for china (no NA 5g bands), and official rom support, mentioned above in better detail. Would have also liked to see 2 front facing speakers as the downward one will be blocked by vice style gamepads. But are these things worth double the price for the rog phone 5? Since I went with the red magic the answer for me is no. Since I'm mostly on wifi the 5g isn't a deal breaker. In general I'm usually not in a situation where my mobile bandwidth speeds are the bottle neck in enjoying an experience, like streaming music.
For me the most important part is the gpu/888 chipset and high refresh. Check and check. Getting the cyberpods for free ($50) and free shipping was nice too.
NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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Thank you. Out of interest, where are you based and selling it please?
dylerb said:
I've got one and I'm playing PUBG Mobile, Arena of Valor and Genshin Impact.
It's Chinese ROM but easy to install Play store by apk file, and remove all Chinese apps. Play store work perfectly, with Play Protect. I even think this is an global ROM.
It had not any issues, at least for 3 days I've been using it.
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Thanks, so did you buy it with Chinese rom?
professorpoptart said:
Just preordered, was between this or the rog phone 5.
I like to try new manufacturers so never having tried red magic before was a factor. The 2 biggest negatives for me on the red magic 6 is that the 5g is only for china (no NA 5g bands), and official rom support, mentioned above in better detail. Would have also liked to see 2 front facing speakers as the downward one will be blocked by vice style gamepads. But are these things worth double the price for the rog phone 5? Since I went with the red magic the answer for me is no. Since I'm mostly on wifi the 5g isn't a deal breaker. In general I'm usually not in a situation where my mobile bandwidth speeds are the bottle neck in enjoying an experience, like streaming music.
For me the most important part is the gpu/888 chipset and high refresh. Check and check. Getting the cyberpods for free ($50) and free shipping was nice too.
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Oh so no 5g for the international version? Can I change it to the Chinese rom?
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If you read through the support page of the red magic 5 and the rwd magic 3, you'll get an idea into what your paying for.
Almost non existinal software support outside of china. Some games like Pubg stop working on basically every update (of pubg) Nubia are months behind in fixing those bugs.
The 5s is over 5 months behind in updates, and still don't have Android 11.
Some software bugs like setting default apps for things like certain links to open in apps,
Reddit, youtube etc dont work.
The sd888 is currently over heating in every model of phone made with it. With exception of the RM6 but only if you use the Ice dock while gaming. So expect to need to buy that additional accessory to get the best performance out of the device. Or if not expect it to over heat a few minutes into any heavy high graphic / demanding game.
Sure maybe after some months of bug fixes it may be better, but yoy only need to read the 5s/5s unofficial support page to read how many things have been done and what people have been dealing with since buying Nubia's last phone.
... Personally im very happy with my purchase. RM5s with latest stock rom is solid. I dont play pubg so i dont care about the people moaning about it. Everyrhing else seems to run very well, with exception to the default apps selection not saving your choices to always open in this app, its a beast of a phone.
Sd888 overheating and using way more power than the 865, for almost the same performance for me personally is not worth it.
But if you do decide to to go for the RM6, good luck. Don't say you were not warned whwn something is not right and you get a cold shoulder from nubia support. Good prediction, Android 12 is get released for the chinese varient, but global will be left behind.
Like the series 3 and currently series 5.
There are rumors that android 11 will release for series 5 soon. But series 3 global is still over 11 months behind china and 2 versions of android behind china.
Expect to be ignored as soon as the next nubia device is announced.
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Hmm thanks for the detailed feedback. So if I buy the UK version, which I assume is the global, I cannot change it to Chinese rom?
marvi0 said:
Hmm thanks for the detailed feedback. So if I buy the UK version, which I assume is the global, I cannot change it to Chinese rom?
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Technically you could change it. But it wont change the bands you will have available to you. Rm6 uses the exact same 5G bands as the RM5. Chinese rom also comes with uninstallable bloatware, loads of data tracking apps, locked launcher, and a bunch of other limited features. If its anything like Android 10 on the 5 series.
Many many people in the UK and parts of europe have 5g connectivity issues with the 5g/5s so dont expect 5g to work and if it does, it will work poorly unless you're basically standing next to the tower.
Overall, chinese roms may get updated, but they will be bogged down with limted features (that you cant even use outside of China) and forced apps.
Not to mention, if the modem fikes happen to get flashed at the same time it could cause connectivity issues on all bands and networks.
The potential to really **** up is high.
But as i said above if you really want to see what you'd be getting yourself into nust read through the issues and software bugs on the support pages for the 5 series and 3 series device.
Its a pretty clear possible future, since Nubia has so far been doing the same thing as they did with the series 3 devices.
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You have to wait for the ROM update. In order to solve the problems you mentioned above Are you my customer in Thailand?
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Yep, It's me Sawaddee krub.
marvi0 said:
Thank you. Out of interest, where are you based and selling it please?
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Land of the smile, Bangkok, Thailand. It's sold...to a customer who will use it for auto bitcoin trading. What are the odds?
NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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Does Redmagic moment/ time i.e. montage recording feature work with pubg global?
NazTH said:
I already got one, with CN rom, unfortunately. I'm waiting for the global rom right now.
Currently, the phone have a few annoying issues:
1. Vanced YouTube does not work consistently
2. Locked launcher
3. E-sports handle does not work in several games, e.g. LOL WildRift
4. FFBE WoTV quits randomly
5. Overheating issue is real
That being said, the screen, sc888's performance, and the charging speed are the saving grace of this flawed device, love dat screen and the snappiness. Whether or not those would justify your purchase, your call.
I already put it on secondhand market, but if no one takes it, I won't get salty ...too much.
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Is the overheating in normal (non-gaming) operation or are you referring to gaming?
I just ordered the 6 pro. Reading through some of these comments makes me leary but one thing I've found over my many years on Android is that no two people's experience is the same. I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of my 6 pro. I'm in the US by the way.
marvi0 said:
Thanks, so did you buy it with Chinese rom?
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Yes. It's original Chinese ROM.
I have one on the way. I hope issues are minimum
does anyone have this and using it on t mobile network in the USA? How does it work?
Beast is absolutely right. I got the international 6 pro with 16gb ram and it is an absolute beast. I'm attaching a screenshot of my antutu score.
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Just received my phone i am using T-Mobile in California. Phone works great so far.
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify ?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
Get the Note 10+ instead; better specs, more ram and up 1tb expandable storage. The Exynos variants can be rooted but the Snapdragon variants are faster. Excellent build quality and it's a running machine.
6 GB ram and 128 GB memory should be okay for me
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6 GB ram and 128 GB memory should be okay for me
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Never can have too much ram or storage, 256/12gb is the base model. One of the best displays out there. Best display to bezel ratio of anything out there. Very good cams.
Personally I take One UI over Nova; faster, capable, more efficient and very stable.
Only possible deficiency is no 3.5mm jack.
No variable refresh rate and ones with no 5G get very good SOT once optimized. These will run extremely well stock and as such the UI is very customizable.
Excuse me ,I'm not talking about Samsung mobile phones here
You are off topic
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Excuse me ,I'm not talking about Samsung mobile phones here
You are off topic
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Excuse me.
To be concise; I don't think it's worth it.
Okay, thank you
nex_t said:
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify ?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
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Nova works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x after a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery for 2 days long... It's unbeatable in every way.
even with foldables you get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc
xjesus said:
Nova works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x after a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery for 2 days long... It's unbeatable in every way.
even with foldables you get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc
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Nova launcher works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x for 250€ after owning a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery lasts for 2 days... It's unbeatable in every way.
With current foldables you would get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and with mate 20x you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's just like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc. It has dropped several times and no problems so far. Huawei book case is very good for this phone.
Vanced YouTube works as well. FNG gestures works perfect without root.
I can't root or install any different firmware. I thought I was going to miss it from my Xiaomi mi mix, but not so much. I just can't use Titanium backup and can't get rid of all the ads, but I can use dns.adguard.com as a private DNS and it avoids quite some ads.
It's running EMUI 12 and Huawei is still updating its kernel...
Even if I could spend 2000€ in another phone and 20x would cost the same I would choose 20x any time just for the aspect ratio and big unbeatable screen, speakers, robustness and battery optimization.
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nex_t said:
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
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I still rock mine with long battery life of 7 - 9 days under medium use.
My global phone at one point had Nova launcher but eventually it was uninstalled because Nova eats away at battery. Besides, the phone is faster and snappier without it.
Vanced still works on it which is crazy cool.
For installing custom roms, downgrading to 9.0/9.1 is a necessity. But doing so may render newer apps inoperable. Personally, EMUI 12 is better than any version before it - even though its bootloader is locked and installing custom roms is a no no.
Cons for Germany? I cant say since I'm not in Europe.
The only 2 idiotic annoyances with the phone are: 1) auto brightness is enabled at startup and 2) notifications to update to network time. Although the notifications dont happen a lot theyre still annoying. Had there been none of these issues, the phone would be perfect.
At one point, I was thinking of selling it and buying the Note 20 ultra which can be upgraded to One UI 5.1, a very nice UI upgrade touch. But in the end I found myself keeping my 20x because of its wide aspect ratio (which unfortunately phone makers have abandoned as I'm still scratching my head over that) and bigger screen even though the Note 20 Ultra may have sharper resolution. However, if one day my 20x does become broken I will not buy another 20x. Instead I'll buy the N20U.
If you have more questions let me know.
xjesus said:
Nova launcher works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x for 250€ after owning a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery lasts for 2 days... It's unbeatable in every way.
With current foldables you would get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and with mate 20x you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's just like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc. It has dropped several times and no problems so far. Huawei book case is very good for this phone.
Vanced YouTube works as well. FNG gestures works perfect without root.
I can't root or install any different firmware. I thought I was going to miss it from my Xiaomi mi mix, but not so much. I just can't use Titanium backup and can't get rid of all the ads, but I can use dns.adguard.com as a private DNS and it avoids quite some ads.
It's running EMUI 12 and Huawei is still updating its kernel...
Even if I could spend 2000€ in another phone and 20x would cost the same I would choose 20x any time just for the aspect ratio and big unbeatable screen, speakers, robustness and battery optimization.
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How did you get this update? Mine doesnt have Jan 2023 patch still? (5G version though)
Kernel and Security patch is from 2022, but Mainline software update is now "2023-02-01 Q"
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Kernel and Security patch is from 2022, but Mainline software update is now "2023-02-01 Q"
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Is that for the 5G version?
zlaer said:
Is that for the 5G version?
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No, mine is 4G Global version.
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No, mine is 4G Global version.
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Are you sure? My phone is EVR L29-C636 which is 4G... and the last update was from last year in Jan or Feb of 2022. Do you have the same model?
zlaer said:
Are you sure? My phone is EVR L29-C636 which is 4G... and the last update was from last year in Jan or Feb of 2022. Do you have the same model?
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As I said before, and as you can see in my "Spanish screenshot" above, kernel and security patch from Huawei are from February 2022, and mainline software update (Android update from Google) is from 2023. It's already 2023-02-01
Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know
Android Project Mainline directly updates core OS components with "critical code changes" from Google Play, accelerating Android updates.
www.hexnode.com
My phone is L29
xjesus said:
As I said before, and as you can see in my "Spanish screenshot" above, kernel and security patch from Huawei are from February 2022, and mainline software update (Android update from Google) is from 2023. It's already 2023-02-01
Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know
Android Project Mainline directly updates core OS components with "critical code changes" from Google Play, accelerating Android updates.
www.hexnode.com
My phone is L29
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Appreciate that. I have 2 questions..
1) If you could get the Note 20 Ultra brand new in exchange for the 20x would you exchange it?
2) I keep getting notifications on "network time unavailable" to enable location. How do I disable this annoying notification?
1) Not even a S23 Ultra. Why? Mainly because I'd lose almost 1cm width and 1cm height of screen with the same weight. I'm sure the battery wouldn't last as long, the fingerprint wouldn't work as well, and most probably the UI would be a little faster with 120Hz but again, with a lot of battery drain, I'd miss the 3.5 audio jack and the super speakers from the Mate 20X. I'm not a gamer, but gaming would be something that probably would run faster in the S23 Ultra compared to the Mate 20X. I don't use a Stylus. Phone camera sensors are limited by their size. For the rest I'm sure there is no real gain. Whatsapp, Youtube and Chrome are my main usage of the phone and all I need is the biggest screen and better sound as possible.
2) No clue
xjesus said:
1) Not even a S23 Ultra. Why? Mainly because I'd lose almost 1cm width and 1cm height of screen with the same weight. I'm sure the battery wouldn't last as long,
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Got to say you're wrong about the battery comparison. The s23 ultra"s battery greatly exceeds the one in the 20x by far.
Maybe...
From:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/huawei-mate-20x/battery
https://www.kimovil.com/en/samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra/battery