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[Q] huawei ascend p7

How much do you guys think ascend p7 will cost?

If you are working for Huawei trying to survey our views then 380$ for the high end version :highfive:
If you don't work for Huawei, then im expecting they would price it the same as Huawei p6 when it was unveiled last year, so abut 430$. But could be higher as the Ascend Mate 2 is being sold at higher price (p6 was sold 30$ higher than Mate 1). And could also be lower as the specs don't fall into a high end, and is instead on borderline high-end mid-ranger (The MTK octo core chip phone Gionee S5.5 costs 380$, and not to forget the low costs for other high spec China phone from Xiaomi, OneplusOne, etc). Unlike last year when P6 was very unique in its category in terms of spec, pricing and design, this year there is more competition and Huawei would need competitive pricing.

warea said:
If you are working for Huawei then 380$ for the high end version :highfive:
If you don't work for Huawei, then im expecting they would price it the same as Huawei p6 when it was unveiled last year, so abut 430$. But could be higher as the Ascend Mate 2 is being sold at higher price (p6 was sold 30$ higher than Mate 1). And could also be lower as the specs don't fall into a high end, and is instead on borderline high-end mid-ranger (The MTK octo core chip phone Gionee S5.5 costs 380$, and not to forget the low costs for other high spec China phone from Xiaomi, OneplusOne, etc). Unlike last year when P6 was very unique in its category in terms of spec, pricing and design, this year there is more competition and Huawei would need competitive pricing.
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see 430$ is about 300€ so i wonder will it be higher because i got my p6 when it was about 300€ and cant remember the original price... the p7 sounds like a realy good update tho i always wondered how nice would 1080p be

Next Phone?

What phone do you suggest for the future? I'm disappointed with Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 4GB, bad materials, bad support, ridiculous battery life and bad space management (phone is too big).
My priority are battery (not necessary a battery phone, but at least 6-7 hours of display), good camera (I want support for real slow motion, not the ZF2 one ) , good design (I would prefer a 5-5.2") and good software support.
My budget is 400€ and I need phones that I can found on Amazon (so don't suggest me phones like OP3 that are on Amazon at 100€ more).
Thanks

I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?

Or Galaxy S8 Edge + Gear Vr,, or nothing

maciek90 said:
I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?
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The problem is that these phones like Zuk, Xiaomi and these "not top" brands, are not selling officially in Italy and they don't support 800Mhz (band 20) for 4G LTE, used a lot here, expecially where I live and with my carrier..so I need a "more european" brand, to have full 4G support.

I am thinking of the 5.5 inch Zenfone 3. I have been very happy with my ze551ml.
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check elephone p9000 around 250$

dredremon said:
check elephone p9000 around 250$
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P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.

jman0 said:
P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.
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if you want upgrade 400$ i suggest xiaomo mi5s + or one plus 3

My current "short list" of devices:
OnePlus 3
ZTE Axon 7
Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe
LeEco Le Max 2
LeEco Le Pro 3
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3
Sony XA Ultra
Nexus 6
Motorola Moto X Pure

I sincerely felt ZF2 not really worth the price , the hardwares are high spec but softwares are ****.

I got mine in June last year and as still pleased with it. Worth the price to me.
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I'll not purchase ASUS anymore period.
I replace it with an Galaxy S7 duos (flat screen version), cost near twice but it's the best android phone available despite Pixel XL hype, the S7 is the fastest water proof dual sim better display, much smaller than the asus and pixel XL, features Knox and multitasking and Samsung voice recognition its available in Spanish and while not as funny as the assistant does very well when I'm driving, also read messages and emails features not available in Spanish from Google asistant o now. Ahh the S7 also includes HR sensor and wireless charging and cost 300 less than a pixel XL.

I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .

karlzberg said:
I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .
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Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.

AcostaJA said:
Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.
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Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.

karlzberg said:
Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.
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FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.

AcostaJA said:
FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.
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:good:
Moto G4 plus Google says 4GB only on sale via Amazon in the UK checking Amazon I'm finding 3GB at £245 so when the 4GB version is out I'm thinking it will probably be north of £300.
One to keep an eye on though:good:

Got the missus a vernee thor for 80GBP , comes with MM out the box and just put AOSP 7.1 on it for her from M.A.D team, here on XDA .
Nippy device 3GB ram and...... MTK of all chipsets

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php

go for xiaomi mi5 or zenfone 3 deluxe. i am using xiaomi mi5. believe me its best.

oneplus 5t or huawei mate 10 pro

mate 10 pro is $799 but also free $150 gift card
better camera than oneplus 5t
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I think this is a price thing, if you don't care about the money you can choose the "little" better huawei...
but if you are not keen on amoled screens, I think the mate 10 without pro is the better choice.

Buy the 5T not because someone on XDA in the 5T forum says so but because Huawei is a really crappy company! Huawei already abandoned the Honor 8 that came out last year with great specs, they said in can't handle Oreo which is a blatant lie! They would rather sell you a new phone which I'm sure a lot would rather do but geez have some class!

DanDroidOS said:
Buy the 5T not because someone on XDA in the 5T forum says so but because Huawei is a really crappy company! Huawei already abandoned the Honor 8 that came out last year with great specs, they said in can't handle Oreo which is a blatant lie! They would rather sell you a new phone which I'm sure a lot would rather do but geez have some class!
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While I don't disagree, your reasoning isn't exactly fair. Honor is a budget brand and similarly priced devices released around the same time also do not have Oreo

Not that the Honor 8 didn't get Oreo yet, it's NOT getting it! Huawei said the Honor 8 can't handle Oreo basically which is a lie. The Honor 8 has better specs than several phones running 8.0, and its not a budget handset by any measure.

I was in the same dilemma
the camera I'd say is better on the OnePlus 5t simply because it is smarter what I mean that there isn't auto hdr on the mate yes the hardware is better and more reliable on the mate but I just hate EMIUI
the selfie on the mate is a complete garbage on of the worst the oneplus's selfie is better
the software experience on the oneplus is far better which is the most important thing to me
the EMIUI is like 2 years old with the same crappiness which I can't live with
the htc 10 which was launched in 2016 along with 3/3t and galaxy s7 all are tipped to get oreo update unlike huawei
also the development community in the huawei is very weak so you can't even depend on that after official support ends

camera on the mate 10 isnt great. more oil paintings, bit like the 5T.
battery will be better though, updates about the sames as 5t and if you're in the uk can can get the mate 10 pro from carphone warehouse for £529 at the mo!

I like the specs of Huawei / Honor phones, but hate their EMIUI. Had one phone with it and it was just so horrible ugly and bloated.
Almost pure Android is much better.

Well... If you are willing to pay $800+ I'd suggest you to wait for Samsung S9. Huawei appeared out of nowhere and started selling phones for the high price just because specs are good on a paper. I personally have OnePlus 5T 8gig variant and I am satisfied with what I got for under $600. I can't say if camera is better or worse than Huawei mate 10 Pro but 5T does the job for me and higher mpx dont always mean better camera. Buy 5T and I am sure you wont regret but it is always your personal choice. We can tell you anything here.

pk-air said:
Well... If you are willing to pay $800+ I'd suggest you to wait for Samsung S9. Huawei appeared out of nowhere and started selling phones for the high price just because specs are good on a paper. I personally have OnePlus 5T 8gig variant and I am satisfied with what I got for under $600. I can't say if camera is better or worse than Huawei mate 10 Pro but 5T does the job for me and higher mpx dont always mean better camera. Buy 5T and I am sure you wont regret but it is always your personal choice. We can tell you anything here.
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without $150 gift card I won't think about huawei,btw just order 8gb 5t will get it tomorrow. I had oneplus one for 3 years,love oneplus.[emoji4]
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ive had both
cant go wrong with either both are good
if you are keen on development then get the oneplus 5T as the mate 10 pro is a pain in the royal behind to download and flash things

I've had most Android devices. I go through them like water. The mate 10 pro was great hardware, but software made it unbearable for me. I've been using my red OP 5t for a few weeks now. I really love it especially with the Oreo update and gestures. I'm gonna stick with it as my DD until the S9+

After reading this thread im going to have nightmares about update.apps and software install failed. I will never spend another penny on a Huawei product....most finicky devices known to man.
Oh yea, get the 5T :good:

Redmi Note 8 Pro or Realme 5 Pro?

Redmi Note 8 Pro or Realme 5 Pro. Going to buy one of these very shortly.
1. Which one would you buy and why?
2. Which one offers best support /updates?
3.Which one would offer best second hand resale value in 12 to 18 months time? Thanks in advance!
Edit - RNP8 is 6/64gb while Realme is 8/128gb. I'm in Ireland but will probably buy from amazon Spain or Germany as its cheaper.

1) well it really depends on what exactly your uses will be. But the RN8Pro has nfc support, slightly bigger battery, higher camera megapixels both front and rear, they both have fingerprint sensor, RN8Pro comes with Gorilla Glass v5 vs the v3 realme comes with, but the Realme comes with a slightly higher display pixel density. I personally have never had a realme, but I used to have a RN3Pro and now have an RN8Pro and I am very satisfied.
2) again I've never had a realme so I cannot comment on the support/update aspect. The Realme does come with a snapdragon chipset so if you were ever unsatisfied with the stock rom you would have plenty of custom rom options. That being said if you are also looking into custom rom I have been told from the founder of posp that they will soon release an build for the RN8Pro being the first and only custom rom for the device.
3) both of these devices have a very low price. a year from now, and used would cost very little. So neither would get a high return if sold 12 to 18 months from now.
But overall in my opinion I would go for the RN8Pro.
Regards

Realme 6 Pro or Xiaomi Note 10 Lite?

Bought a Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite on Amazon France (it was cheapest there) in February. Was working fine up until a few weeks ago when it turned itself off and asked me to "Reboot to main menu". This now happens 2 or 3 times a day. Did factory reset, same problem. So looks like it's a glitch and I'll be returning it to get a refund. I've had Xiaomi phones before, never had a problem. So I'm looking for best phone around €300. I'd like a decent camera, quick /snappy processor, no glitches, good support and decent resale value as I tend to sell my phones every 18 months and upgrade. The realme 6 Pro and mi note 10 lite seem to suit my needs best..... But which is the better?

There's no reason for picking the 6 Pro over the Note 10 Lite.
1. Would pick note 10 lite's AMOLED instead even just comes with 60Hz. Why ? because 90Hz on 6 Pro is gimmicky, especially considering you ran it on mid-range SoC.
2. Higher battery capacity.
3. Mostly, Xiaomi phones have better community support due to several reasons like :
- They have official flashing tools (MiFlash) for repairing soft-brick, where realme doesn't.
- Better kernel source code quality, at least better than realme. The source code that provided by realme is total mess (sorry realme).

Orders the Note 10 Lite today, hope to get it next week at some stage.