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[Q] Which tab s 10.5 to get?

I have decided to pull the trigger on a galaxy tab s 10.5 but don't know which model to get. I want the exynos with lte that works on at&t. Is there a model that has both the exynos and lte support for AT&T, or should I purchase the tablet directly from AT&T? Root is also a concern my note edge is AT&T and has no root in sight due to locked bootloader. I want to order the model that has it all. Any input is appreciated.

I have the T-807 on VZW and there is no root method for my tab, so I'd say avoid the T-807 if root is something important to you. The 807 (for some reason) in the fastest and smoother of those I have played with tho

Can't you get unlocked versions over there in the US?

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Can't you get unlocked versions over there in the US?
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Yes Amazon has the international version unlocked. Not sure why the lte version only come with 16gb, but the WiFi only version you can get in 32gb.

AndroiderM said:
Yes Amazon has the international version unlocked. Not sure why the lte version only come with 16gb, but the WiFi only version you can get in 32gb.
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I have the unlocked international lte version which i imported from Hong Kong, much cheaper than Amazon. Got it from a great site called Expedite electronics.

ashyx said:
I have the unlocked international lte version which i imported from Hong Kong, much cheaper than Amazon. Got it from a great site called Expedite electronics.
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Does it work with at&t lte bands?

AndroiderM said:
Does it work with at&t lte bands?
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I wouldn't know, you'd have to research that for yourself
http://www.expeditelectronics.com/s...galaxy-tab-s-10-5-4g-16gb-sm-t805-bronze.html
It says uk, but they ship from HK, so dont see why they couldnt ship to the us.

ashyx said:
I have the unlocked international lte version which i imported from Hong Kong, much cheaper than Amazon. Got it from a great site called Expedite electronics.
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The price is definitely better but they won't ship it to the US.

AndroiderM said:
The price is definitely better but they won't ship it to the US.
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Bummer, i take it you just asked?

ashyx said:
Bummer, i take it you just asked?
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Yup they only ship to the UK strangely considering the tab comes from Hong Kong. I might just settle for the T-Mobile version. I wonder if the performance is much different between the snapdragon and exynos. I really want the 32gb one but no GSM support, hopefully lollipop update comes soon enough and I can write whatever app data I want to SD card.

OK now I feel stupid, I assumed that all of the US carriers would have the snapdragon version just like all US Samsung phones, but according to T-Mobile and AT&T sites both are the exynos versions. I will be getting the T-Mobile version so bootloader will be unlocked and root/custom recovery will be easier to obtain. Thanks for the input.

AndroiderM said:
OK now I feel stupid, I assumed that all of the US carriers would have the snapdragon version just like all US Samsung phones, but according to T-Mobile and AT&T sites both are the exynos versions. I will be getting the T-Mobile version so bootloader will be unlocked and root/custom recovery will be easier to obtain. Thanks for the input.
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The Verizon model is Snapdragon and works on AT&T.

Mmmk
dzeek said:
The Verizon model is Snapdragon and works on AT&T.
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But can you root it or us bootloader locked down?

AndroiderM said:
Mmmk
But can you root it or us bootloader locked down?
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Sorry. I don't know.

Which model for use in the USA?

Hello,
I am quite interested in purchasing this device! I live in Washington D.C. and I was curious which model of the phone is best suited for use in America? I ask because I assume there are probably different model numbers depending on what region the phone is purchased from.
Thanks

cms062407 said:
Hello,
I am quite interested in purchasing this device! I live in Washington D.C. and I was curious which model of the phone is best suited for use in America? I ask because I assume there are probably different model numbers depending on what region the phone is purchased from.
Thanks
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SM-705MN or SM-705W
DO NOT BUY SM-705FN

JaY_III said:
SM-705MN or SM-705W
DO NOT BUY SM-705FN
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How about SM-705GM?

omnomsky said:
How about SM-705GM?
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Link to where you see it please.
I cant find an FCC cert for that model and only see it listed on Samsung India's site:
https://www.samsung.com/in/smartphones/galaxy-a70-a705g/SM-A705GZWHINS/#specs
And from what I can see, that will not work in North America
good news is I found another version that should work so that brings us to
SM-705MN
SM-A705YN
SM-705W*
* for the SM-705W I have not seen the cert myself, but going off information another posted listed on XDA

Try this website https://sim-usa.mobi/phone-compatibility-check/
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Will Samsung pay work on any of these?

Yes And No..
badrsj said:
Will Samsung pay work on any of these?
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Yes Samsung Pay Works On The A70..
But... Samsung Pay is : "Region Specific" depending on Model in a given Region. . So, choose your model carefully.

RaiderWill said:
Yes Samsung Pay Works On The A70..
But... Samsung Pay is : "Region Specific" depending on Model in a given Region. . So, choose your model carefully.
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I have the SM-705MN and i can confirm that samsung pay WILL NOT WORK here in the USA.
I was wondering if anybody had the M or W and if it worked on theirs?
And if so could we swap firmware?
or even possibly change the CSC with out flashing the firmware?

Devilmonkey27 said:
I have the SM-705MN and i can confirm that samsung pay WILL NOT WORK here in the USA.
I was wondering if anybody had the M or W and if it worked on theirs?
And if so could we swap firmware?
or even possibly change the CSC with out flashing the firmware?
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Simply Put..
There is NO WAY, NO FIRMWARE SWAP, NADA... ZIP.. That Samsung Pay will work on ANY A70 in the United States Of America.
Period..
If Google Pay does not cut if for you.. time to return / sell your device and get a S6, S7, S8, S9, S10, Note 5, Note 8, Note 9, or wait for the Note 10.. if S-Pay means that much to you.
You can buy the A50 through Sprint.. and have a working Samsung Pay MINI in the U.S.A. as an alternative..
Until I found out Google Pay works in 99% of the place I personally shop.. I was going to return my A70 and go for one of the mentioned device listed above.
I still might... there is something just not feeling right about this purchase.. Great Battery, Fingerprint is Ok for me, Face Unlock is very fast.. even in the dark, 6.7 inch screen seems to be where screens are headed, Amoled is... Amoled the best. You can't root and trip knox, and use Samsung Pay on any device.. even though there appears to be a workaround for using Google Pay.. But I'm fine not rooting with Developer's not having any interest in this device and TWRP seems like a distant dream at this point..
So, why am I just not feeling this device?.. It seems perfect on so many fronts.. but.... with Prime Day coming in a couple of weeks.. and also having thoughts of spending $270.00 more and getting the One Plus 7 Pro.. I just don't know what it is about the A70 for me.. but something is missing at this price point..
Maybe the rumored A507 and A707 ( A50 and A70 ) updated models which are due out later this year will get sold through U.S. carriers or get offered by Samsung directly in the U.S.A. but I'm sure those will be Late 2019 releases. But if they do get released in the U.S. at least the A70 would have Samsung Pay support out of the box.

Sorry to bump an old thread, but just to be clear, the best model for use in the USA would be the SM-A705W (the Canadian model)?

leotakacs said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but just to be clear, the best model for use in the USA would be the SM-A705W (the Canadian model)?
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The SM-A705MN/DS is the best for use in the US.

Unlocked US or wait for International unlocked?

Hi all
In the past I’ve had to buy international variants for the best possible coverage when traveling. Even the US unlocked did not cover as much as their international unlocked counterparts.
I spend a lot of my time overseas so I’m willing to have less then ideal coverage in the united states.
I’ve tried to look up information on the bands but so far have not had much look comparing to see if I should preorder the s20 ultra unlocked in the states or just wait until I go abroad and purchase the international version in a few months when I leave again. Even if I don’t get the deals on preorder.
Which would really be a downer if there isn’t a difference and I could buy it now with all the perks of the promos.
Can anyone enlighten me on if the unlocked US version or international unlocked variant would be more suited to travel outside the States?
Or is their a difference this time?
Thanks!

I have this same question, but here is my dilemma....
The US version work have a snapdragon and a $200 credit at samsung's website for pre-orders but the international version with have the ability to be rooted. Now i have the oneplus 7 pro, with root, i am able to force 90hz refresh rate on ALL apps. If i can root the s20 ultra, i can swap in a kernel that allows 120hz at qhd on alll apps, which is pure gold in itself.

the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds

I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?

XtremeMaC said:
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
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It is my understanding that traditionally, US unlocked version is SiM unlocked but bootloader locked. Therefore, the likelyhood that it will be rootable in a few months will be the same as with other recent phones, next to zero.
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yeah, that's what I'm afraid of..

In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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Viper4android!

very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot

johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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You couldn't be more wrong. But hey. Your choice.

Ricardo_G said:
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
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5G is all over Europe.

force70 said:
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
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suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do

From what I have seen there are also various versions of the international unlocked, some are dual sim and some ha e different bands (with or without 5G).

masri1987 said:
suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
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long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.

force70 said:
long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
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which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus

masri1987 said:
which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
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the Hong kong and brazil model number is just SM-G9880. no N,W Or anything else. but they both would be 865s yep.
couldnt have been the 3XL cause i didnt get one, def been awhile though. Im not on as much as I used to be...too many snowflakes lol.
Corona virus has everything shut down here in Ontario, Canada. movies, restaurants, gyms (that one hits hard with me being a bodybuilder).
its crazy.

what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android

yes it should be its exynos.
Korean/ international basically the same thing hardware other than possibly being capable of different network frequencies.
you cannot cross flash Korean and international firmware however if that matters
ive had lots of both and never had issues with either.
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what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
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This may help you decide.
https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/3...-americas-first-unlocked-all-carrier-5g-phone

Im on att. What i wont be able to use the 5g network if i get an international verion. I might get the us verison then

Few questions about note 10 plus

Ok, first of all, I am thinking to buy soon between iPad pro 11 or note 10 plus, I know that one is tablet one is smartphone but both has pros and cons.
I live in Europe but if I will buy Snapdragon version will I get updates and warranty in EU or not.
And what about camera quality is this so bad as ppl describing on forum or is just software problem?

Camera is fine. No idea on Snapdragon 10+ warranty is valid in Europe. I suggest you ask a European Samsung store.
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The camera is excellent, many people over exagerate their experience with it, some even dare to say that some midrangers make better photos, which clearly denotes the intention of their comments, but, I would get a device intended for my country, mostly due to warranty assurances

neomesjasz said:
Ok, first of all, I am thinking to buy soon between iPad pro 11 or note 10 plus, I know that one is tablet one is smartphone but both has pros and cons.
I live in Europe but if I will buy Snapdragon version will I get updates and warranty in EU or not.
And what about camera quality is this so bad as ppl describing on forum or is just software problem?
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You will get updates as normal, however you won't get any warranty in the EU, Samsung only cover warranty for devices bought in a specific region, a Spanish service centre for example will not do repairs on a American device.
Camera is down to preference in my opinion, I had a P30 Pro & although on paper it has a higher megapixel count, I find Samsung's colour algorithm & HDR to be better.

Ok, thank to you all for answer.
Asked Samsung support and they said that no warranty and no updates via OTA if I buy from different region.

neomesjasz said:
no updates via OTA if I buy from different region.
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This is false

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
This is false
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Just saying what Samsung support said it to me, and could be true because it's similar with Motorola.

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Just saying what Samsung support said it to me, and could be true because it's similar with Motorola.
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I have a Canadian Note 10 in the UK & have had all OTAs, so like I said originally, not true, I talk from experience

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I have a Canadian Note 10 in the UK & have had all OTAs, so like I said originally, not true, I talk from experience
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So you think it's worth it to buy from America with Snapdragon? So it's not only security patches but upgrade to android 10 too?

neomesjasz said:
So you think it's worth it to buy from America with Snapdragon? So it's not only security patches but upgrade to android 10 too?
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Yes, I got mine on 9.0 Pie & had several OTAs including Android 10 & security patches

My Note 9 was from Australia and I am in Europe and got updates no problem.
I personally would pick an Exynos in Europe and enjoy the 24 month warranty that comes with it.

Question Rootable S22 available in the US?

I know the S22 variant made for the US market does not have an unlockable bootloader. But is it possible to buy a rootable S22 that will work with a Verizon SIM? Order it from overseas maybe?

yeah you can get a Korean 908N version on eBay with a very reasonable price. I got mine several days ago.

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yeah you can get a Korean 908N version on eBay with a very reasonable price. I got mine several days ago.
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Awesome, thanks. I wasn't sure which country to look for. I prefer a pocket-sized phone and it looks like SM-SS901N is the small one and it's readily available.
I'm still running SABS on my old S9 (installed before Samsung killed it) and I was afraid I'd have to switch to a Pixel to get root, but the smallest Pixel 6 is bigger than I want. The small S22 from South Korea seems like a perfect choice.

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Awesome, thanks. I wasn't sure which country to look for. I prefer a pocket-sized phone and it looks like SM-SS901N is the small one and it's readily available.
I'm still running SABS on my old S9 (installed before Samsung killed it) and I was afraid I'd have to switch to a Pixel to get root, but the smallest Pixel 6 is bigger than I want. The small S22 from South Korea seems like a perfect choice.
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No problem at all. I always got the Korean Variant instead of US one. Works for me all the time. I just didn't understand why they didn't provide an option of unlockinh BL on US variant. I feel like it's not even necessary.

are you looking for exynos or snapdragon? there is a large performance and compatability difference. Hong Kong and Singapore are where I got my last two phones from, bootloader unlockable snapdragons.

I'd have to say Snapdragon, which is also the South Korea variant (I'm guessing this is why it's popular for US buyers). Would there be any reason to consider an Exynos for use in the US? According to the reviews I've read, performance & battery life on the Exynos vary between meh and unusably awful.

52yt said:
No problem at all. I always got the Korean Variant instead of US one. Works for me all the time. I just didn't understand why they didn't provide an option of unlockinh BL on US variant. I feel like it's not even necessary.
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Hello, may I ask what carrier you're using this with in the US? On Ebay, it says that it doesn't work with Verizon (due to CDMA).
I'm aware that Verizon does a little bit more than CDMA these days, but their base is still CDMA from what I understand. Thanks in advance.