I am trying to figure out how to best tether my phone without my carrier throttling me down or detecting this and getting some exorbitant bill.
Both of these things are important to me but I am trying to find a balance between shielding my tethered traffic while also:
1. Not killing my battery so quickly
2. I am concerned about a notification that I am overloading the CPU on my device.
Equipment\Software:
Samsung Galaxy S9 4 GB RAM w/o Root
SecureTether (Google Play Store)
NordVPN (Paid Subscription)
Major US Carrier w/ Unlimited Data
Dell Inspiron 5559 (Only device tethering to phone)
Here is some of the background:
I get a notification on my phone, no matter how I set things up with Secure Tether and NordVPN either running on my laptop or on my phone.
"Some appications or processes are overloading the System (CPU) and need to close.
How serious is that message?
Critical to protect device or more just a power consumption or load bearing metric?
I keep my phone plugged in when I'm tethering 99% of the time so the power consumption doesn't bother me, but I want to make sure I am not doing something that is detrimental to the phone. Everything looks like it's working correctly and the internet works fine and isn't lagging on my laptop or phone.
Secondly,
I want to use my VPN provider (NordVPN) to setup a VPN to shield my my carrier, to be on the safe side that they can not see my traffic and/or that I am not using their metered hotspot connection. This comes with a performance and power penalty so, I know a VPN is a good idea but is it necessary in order for my carrier not to find out I am using something else to tether my device. This is just for some more general knowledge.
Third,
I can use NordVPN on my device or my laptop and both work fine on either device, in both cases though I get the message: "Some appications or processes are overloading the System (CPU) and need to close."
I can tether my laptop to my phone and then connect NordVPN on my laptop and it takes a minute to connect but it does and when it does. everything works fine.
I was skeptical it would work fine because in order to setup Secure Tether you need to setup not only a basic WiFi connection on my laptop but also use a VPN (SSTP-->192.168.49.1:8822) from my laptop to phone, even before throwing NordVPN into the mix, but
Configuration One:
Laptop ---> Secure Tether WiFi ----> Secure Tether VPN (SSTP 192.168.49.1:8822)----> Connect Nord VPN on Laptop ----> Internet. (((Laptop has NordVPN Internet))) (((Galaxy has clear Internet)))
Configuration Two:
Laptop ---> Secure Tether WiFi ---> Secure Tether VPN -----[[Connection Established to phone]] ----> Connect Nord VPN on Phone ---> Internet (Laptop and Phone)
I am looking for some feedback to see if that first configuration is:
First, Masking my Tethered Traffic correctly. I am only shielding my tethered Internet and otherwise my phone is using normal Internet. I only care about my carrier not seeing that I am tethering my laptop essentially.
Second, taking some of the load off of my phone by not running both services (SecureTether and NordVPN) on it.
But then I thought, if my carrier is seeing a lot of VPN traffic and some clear traffic that might look worse, because generally when you run a VPN on your phone everything runs through it, so with half and half traffic, they may suspect that I am tethering something but they wouldn't be able to necessarily prove it.
But just raising red flags might be enough to warrant a closer look at my account, so it might just be better to run NordVPN on my phone and send all traffic through it.
I only really have this one device connecting to my hotspot, one laptop so it isn't like I have 5 devices each running their own VPN and probably creating more work for my phone with constantly open VPN connections. With one device there has to be an open VPN connection somewhere device/computer and it doesn't matter where it is because it's the same amount of traffic/bandwidth used up anymore, it's just a matter of where it is.
With multiple devices it would be more advantageous to run a single VPN connection on my phone and this generates less traffic/uses less bandwidth?
Am I correct in assuming that with 1 device this first configuration takes some of the load off of my phone because it is just passing data through rather than running the VPN service itself.
Either configuration works for me, I would think that Configuration 2, that is, connecting\running Nord VPN on my device would be a better option from a security standpoint and it simplifies things because:
A. Any device connecting to the hotspot is using the VPN automatically.
B. All of my phone data, hotspot or not is being sent through the VPN.
However, the // [major [/I ] // downside is that power runs through your phone like a sieve and the load on the CPU is increased.
I just got this S9 a few days ago and I am switching from iPhone to Android so my depth of knowledge isn't developed enough to where a reliable instinctual of how this device handles, so I'm sorry is this seems redundant.
Sorry for the length of this post, I got more nuanced than I thought I would but I wanted everything to be clear and maybe this will help someone else along the way.
Any input you have would be greatly appreciated.
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So I've been using the Tom coding package that installs the mobile Wi-Fi router with no problems until last night... now it keeps trying to connect to ISP.Cingular and then stops... it basically doesn't work now. I've tried to uninstall and reinstalled it dozens of times with no luck.
And yet... the 3G connection works because I can browse through Opera. So...?
OhI might add that I can turn on the Wi-Fi and connect to my in-house router just fine and do what on the internet through the phone. SO... it is definitely something specific with wireless internet sharing.
???
Someone please he me I use internet sharing DAILY
You need to make sure that it is connecting to the correct address. At the bottom of the App, it should have a few different choices of connections to use. Try another one and see if it works. You may have to set up a new connections for this to work properly. Keep in mind that tethering/mobile hotspot is not covered by AT&T's wireless data plan. It is a separate monthly charge. You should be careful when using it too much at a time, so they don't block or throttle your connection.
The device I am trying to connect with to my Tilt 2 is a Samsung Galaxy Tab, and apparently it doesn't like ad-hoc, whatever that is exactly. I was told on the Galaxy Tab section of this forum that this is the case, and that I need some kind of "mobile ap", although again I do not understand what that exactly means. ???
Ah, see that's much better information. So, no, you probably won't be able to connect without another app doing so. Ad-hoc is, simply put, a connection to another device other than a router which is allowing you access to its Internet connection. If the device you're trying to connect with doesn't allow ad-hoc connections, then the Wifi Router app won't do you any good, as that is the type of connection it uses. Most mobile devices do not natively support this, however. The problem, therefore, is with the Galaxy Tab you have, not with the TP2. Find an app or mod that allows for ad-hoc connections and you'll be all set.
Well is there an apparently for the WM phone side of things that will do non ad-hoc??
No. Ad-hoc is a connection between two devices. Unless you use a router, that's how it's going to be no matter if you are using WM, a laptop, iOS, Android, et cetera. The connection type is determined by the device sending the signal. If it comes from a device, then it is ad-hoc. It is not a problem with the software. That is how wifi was designed to work in the first place. The problem, again, is with the Tab, not the WM application.
Well apparently there is a solution for the Tab that allows it to see ad-hoc networks, so I will try that and let you guys know how it went.
Can no longer connect to Ad-Hoc with Tilt 2
I have been using both the CM Internet Sharing program and the WMWifiRouter with no issues for over a year now on my AT&T Tilt 2.
One day a couple weeks ago I had been using CM to connect my laptop to the internet. everything was just fine as usual.
At some point, I had disconnected and tried to reconnect, and since then I can no longer use either of these programs.
What happens is this...I turn them on and the phone will no longer hold a connection to the ad-hoc network that is created. Up in the status bar I see the icon showing WiFi trying to connect but it will not stick anymore.
I can connect to my office and/or home wifi router still. It just will not connect to the ad-hoc network any longer.
This makes no sense to me at all, since it has always worked and was even working earlier in the day when it stopped working.
I use the tethering frequently and really need to get this solved. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I know how to do this in Windows and Linux, but not really sure how to go about it on Android...4.0.4 to be exact.
What I'm trying to accomplish is to have both active, with the 3G/4G handling internet-based activities and the Wifi handling local network access.
Why? Basically my home internet is horrible however I have some services/shares on my LAN that I want to access on my phone. And I can't switch between them, not an option. Because many times I'm wanting to take a picture from my file server (Accessed over Wifi) and then upload it to Flickr (Accessed over 3G/4G).
In Windows it's setting the gateway metric, and I would set the connection with the internet with the lower metric while the LAN-only connection gets a higher one.
I'm not aware of any way to do this on any Android - I would imagine it requires a heavily modded ROM.
You could of course tether a Windows or Linux computer on your network to the Android and implement gateway metrics from that end, in order to copy photos from the LAN server to the Internet via cellular.
cmstlist said:
I'm not aware of any way to do this on any Android - I would imagine it requires a heavily modded ROM.
You could of course tether a Windows or Linux computer on your network to the Android and implement gateway metrics from that end, in order to copy photos from the LAN server to the Internet via cellular.
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Ask Cyanogen, if he could do such a thing, afterall, he has been hacking/modding Android since it's inital release. If anyone can help you, it's him... Sorry dude.
While I've never tried it, you might want to try setting up a DHCP reservation on your LAN that DOES NOT provide a gateway. This should allow Internet access using your egress connection while still allowing local LAN access-at least this is how it works for most computers that are multihomed.
Anyone know how I can attach a Galaxy S4 mini to a Draytek 2820n router?
I'll give a bit of background that might explain why I'm trying to do what I'm doing.
I'm a heavy internet user. I need to download medical image files that are 300MB at a time on a frequent basis, as well as wanting to do usual downloading from iPlayer, Sky etc, plus app updates and all the usual keeping computers up to date. I live somewhere that I cannot get a decent ADSL connection (download speed is about 256Kb/s) never mind fibre. However, do have a good 3G (HSDPA) connection with three.co.uk. Have a Draytek 2820n router so I can use a 3G dongle via the router's USB so in essence the whole house has a fairly rapid internet connection. Only problem is that three's mobile broadband plans limit you to 15GB cap per month.
I've got a Galaxy S4 mini on monthly contract which gives unlimited (All You Can Eat) data and allows tethering.
I've been able to successfully connect wifi devices to the S4 via wifi tethering and use the internet but it's a pain having to switch wifi connections if say I want to control an XBMC server on my LAN, for instance. What would be ideal is to have the router distribute the S4's internet around. I can't just put the SIM in a mobile dongle as three have a way of blocking that (something to do with IMEI recognition) and I don't want to risk trying it.
Anyone got any ideas how I might be able to go about this. The Draytek router has various settings you can put into the 3G setup - I've attached a screenshot. I've tried various things but nothing works and I'm not sure how to access the router's debugging output. I set the S4 with USB debugging on in the developer settings. Wondering if there is something I can do that is fairly straightforward on the S4 so that I can try some generic dial string settings on the router to see if that works. I'd read something about putting the S4 into USB Kies mode but I don't seem to have that option.
My other thought was I might be able to leave the S4 in wifi tethering mode and somehow bridge this with my router but that would probably screw up my LAN DHCP assignments as I'd have to switch the router DHCP off and then I would be limited to 10 connections.
Sorry it's a bit long and complex. Any thoughts anyone?
I want to prevent my carrier from knowing that I am using CM11's native Hotspot or Tethering features. I know that they can look at the TTL of packets or analyze the traffic (Windows Update, Steam) to detect this. I have a subscription to a VPN service, Private Internet Access, which has an app on Android. If I enable the VPN mode of this app, will all the Hotspot traffic be routed through it, completely invisible to the carrier?
Searching showed me some conflicting answers on this, with some people saying to run it on the tethered device, and others saying to run it on the phone. I am thinking running VPN on phone, as the packets should appear to originate from the phone, rather than something 1 hop behind it.
kcattakcaz said:
I want to prevent my carrier from knowing that I am using CM11's native Hotspot or Tethering features. I know that they can look at the TTL of packets or analyze the traffic (Windows Update, Steam) to detect this. I have a subscription to a VPN service, Private Internet Access, which has an app on Android. If I enable the VPN mode of this app, will all the Hotspot traffic be routed through it, completely invisible to the carrier?
Searching showed me some conflicting answers on this, with some people saying to run it on the tethered device, and others saying to run it on the phone. I am thinking running VPN on phone, as the packets should appear to originate from the phone, rather than something 1 hop behind it.
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To the best of my knowledge, they could easily know that you are connecting to the VPN tunnel as it utilizes a certain ports. However if it's correctly set up and utilize a secure protocol, all your traffic will get through the VPN and your ISP won't be able to decipher your online activities and your connection type or make sense of your internet traffic.
In other words, you may be using the VPN to connect to websites A, B, and C and send all sorts of interesting information to those websites; or send email; or whatever. Your ISP can see none of that. All they can see is encrypted data that they can't decrypt. So they know you're using a VPN, but they don't know what you're using it for.
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So I'm almost lost on where to begin. I feel like I have tried everything but here we go.
Sgh m919 4.4.2 rooted stock. Rooted via towel root, Knox warranty void 0x0
Plan: unlimited everything (unlimited 4G lte all the time) 2 lines 5gb hotspot for $100
So for a long time I used wifi tether router to create a hotspot for other devices like ps3s and computers to connect to. This would use my unlimited mobile data and wouldn't touch my regular hotspot count. It worked amazingly! But at some point it started to use my regular hotspot and I was directed to the dreaded tmobile upsell page. Well this pretty much ruined my life because I live in a place that provides Internet and won't let you get your own and it's super slow. Like less then 1mb per sec slow. .. So i have been desperately trying to find a work around. I had countless emails with the developer with the end result being him saying here are some vpns people say they have had success with I can help you no further. So i tried those but it did not seem to work at all. I tried using several vpn applications with wifi tether router. Vpn applications with it all built into the app and you just have to hit connect to open vpn. Then I found these guides and tried this method: http://kingoftweaks.blogspot.ae/2014/03/wifi-hotspot-through-vpn.html?m=1
http://digiex.net/guides-reviews/gu...phone-vpn-gateway-bypass-tethering-block.html
but that didn't seem to work either. So i went back to the past and tried using other methods from before rooting my phone. In the past I would use pdanet+ to usb tether a windows 7 laptop and use the Internet connection sharing function to share the Internet connection from pdanet to a router plugged in via ethernet cable. It worked back then and worked this time, for the most part. You have to use hide tether usage level 1 to bypass the upsell page. In the past this wasn't a problem. I could do anything just as if connected to my hotspot. But now I can't get netflix to work on anything but a mobile device. Not my ps3, computers, smart tv, nothing. User agent switchers don't solve the problem. So this gave me another idea. Try to use the computer as a vpn gateway. So i downloaded open vpn client and tried some free vpns. I wasn't using pdanet at this point. I was trying to connect the computer to wifi tether router and basically encrypt all Internet traffic from my isp (tmobile) using a vpn. So if I start the vpn and am connected to the phone via wifi and share the wifi connection to the router I still hit the upsell page or it will keep on trying to load Web pages in the browser but will never load them. So when I use open vpn client on widows 7 it creates it's own network adapter. So i tried to share that to the router and connect another computer. It barely worked, speed was awful according to speedtest.net . While running vpn I can watch netflix after downloading Microsoft silver light on computer running vpn but not very well. So i thought maybe I could use my computer as a vpn server but was unsuccessful. I tried fiddler in the past but all it did was mess with my computer. I tried wireless tether for root users and the treve mod version, this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/how-to-tether-blocking-fix-t2544487 and several other things.
I really need help figuring out how to get tethering working again.
My needs are complicated as well. I wasn't to keep Knox unvoided for one. I as well would like to be somewhat mobile with my phone. I don't want to have to keep it plugged into the computer all the time to have Internet access. Which means even if i get pdanet working with Netflix that's just temporary. Ultimately i would like to use just my phone but know that just may not be possible.
Ultimate goal: wireless tether using just phone with good speeds, ping/latency.
Acceptable goal: wireless tether to computer and share internet connection through router to maintain mobility with phone.
Temporary goal: get netflix working with pda net usb tethering.
I need to be able to use netflix on ps3, computer, and smart tv.
My ideas that I have no idea how to implement.
Use the computer to encrypt data from tmobile, vpn? Proxy? Ssh tunnel?
Use another phone to pick up the wireless tether router hotspot and somehow force pdanet to use the wifi connection of that phone instead of the mobile data it tries to use normally or mask the wifi connection as the mobile data connection or something. Basically use pdanet to share the extra phones wifi connection so I have mobility with my actual phone.
Ps. When using wifi tether router other andriod devices can connect and use application like normal but nothing else.
Can anyone help me get my tethering working again? I need help really bad and would greatly appreciate it.
No one wants to say it, so I will.
You need to get yourself some good old fashioned Internet access from an Internet provider.
Tmobile is on to your data abuse and put a jihad on your data black hole.
Downgrade your Tmo plan and buy into some Internet access from your local provider.
Pp.
Has anyone found a solution to the OPs concern for how to get tethering working again through T-Mobile? It use to be that you could use an app like: Tether (from Clockwork Mod) or EasyTether (from Play Store) to get around T-Mobile's restriction on tethering; however, those don't seem to work anymore (ever with user agent spoofing) - has anyone found a current solution for tethering on T-Mobile?
No.
Pp.
Whatever VPN witchcraft PdaNet+ uses to hide tether usage makes Netflix unusable on a PC. The way around this is to unhide the tether usage, load whatever it is on Netflix you want to watch (once the red circle starts spinning is good enough), then re-hide the tether usage. I don't know if doing the same will let Netflix work properly on your other devices, as I've never tried. I don't have Netflix anymore, so I can't try with my TV's Netflix app.
It's a nuisance, but it's something one just has to put up with if you're using your phone plan as your home internet. I don't understand the reason this happens. Websites still detect your Windows version and browser just fine, yet Netflix thinks you're incompatible for some reason.
FWIW, Amazon Prime doesn't have this problem.
I also don't know why WiFi Tether Router stopped working for you. It works fine for me.