Does anything change in performance? About heavy games maybe. The AnTuTu scores change or they're the same?
Except for RAM and Storage size, they're basically the same. The Antutu score will indeed increase because it takes in count everything in your device, including how much ram and how much storage, but other than that, there aren't any differences.
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Except for RAM and Storage size, they're basically the same. The Antutu score will indeed increase because it takes in count everything in your device, including how much ram and how much storage, but other than that, there aren't any differences.
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I've seen some antutu scores on youtube. It seems that nothing changes. The scores seem about the same
I stayed away from the 8GB one because most people were complaining about bad battery life. So the 6GB since it has less (always ON) RAM was better in battery management at that time. I don't know if they have fixed that with the latest updates tho, but recently the phone is eating more and more RAM with each update.
Earlier when I took it out of the box the used RAM would be about 2.6GB/6GB, now it's almost 3.4GB/6GB. Hope Asus isn't doing this on purpose to make us buy the Zenfone 6Z
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Would like to know if it is noticeble the difference between the LG G3 the version of 3Gb of RAM from the 2Gb of RAM.
Any one have tested or know?
Thanks.
G3 uses 1.5 gb of ram at all times, so if you get the 2 gb version itll always be pretty close to the ceiling
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G3 uses 1.5 gb of ram at all times, so if you get the 2 gb version itll always be pretty close to the ceiling
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'One' of the main reasons I got the G3 was that it has 3GB ram. Most modern phones are pretty similar in terms of speed but memory makes a big difference. You can get by with 2gb but 3GB is much better and makes it much more future proof.
If you are using dual window for all apps through the little mod, you are less likely to have issues with running low on memory.
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Currently it doesn't really matter - Android 4.4 requires only 512 MB.
The reason why a device with much RAM shows a high RAM usage is that Android considers empty/unused RAM to be wasted. As long as there is RAM available it will fill it with apps. It doesn't require additional battery power to keep a currently unused app in the RAM, it even saves power (and time) at the app's next usage because instead of loading the app it just needs to shove it to the front.
There is a defined amount of RAM that is kept empty for instantaneous usage, but everything else will get filled - provided that there are enough apps to fill it with. Android's memory management keeps track of your app usage. Apps that are used regularly get a high priority, seldom used apps a low one. If the system runs out of memory it will close low priority apps, beginning with those that haven't been used for the longest amount of time.
The only difference between 2 GB and 3 GB is that more seldom used apps can be held in the RAM. Under normal circumstances you shouldn't be able to tell the difference between 2 GB and 3 GB. About half of the devices shipped with KitKat still only have 1 GB.
Android L will probably require 1 GB - and with the 64bit support it might even result in devices with more than 4 GB of RAM. But that will be just for marketing, not because there is a technical need. Same as now with the 3 GB devices.
But I have to admit: I am a sucker for specs as well. I think about buying a G3 and since the surcharge for the 32 GB flash and the 3 GB RAM is only about 10% if will most likely go for the bigger one. I try to hide being suckered with the argument that 32 GB of flash are a lot better than 16 GB. - RAM? There is a difference in RAM sizes?
Hi all
Wondering if there is an actual noticeable difference in day to day usage between the two models? I know the bench test show marginal performance improvements for the 32GB over the 16GB model but would this be seen in every day use?
Reason I ask is that I may be swapping a 16GB model for a 32GB model but this comes with it's downsides so wondering if it's even worth it....
Forgot to say that I do know that the 32GB model also has the 3GB RAM
Thanks
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Hi all
Wondering if there is an actual noticeable difference in day to day usage between the two models? I know the bench test show marginal performance improvements for the 32GB over the 16GB model but would this be seen in every day use?
Reason I ask is that I may be swapping a 16GB model for a 32GB model but this comes with it's downsides so wondering if it's even worth it....
Forgot to say that I do know that the 32GB model also has the 3GB RAM
Thanks
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i would say yes.
i have a 2gb one and my oncle a 3gb ram. my home screen always refresh when i exit a app.
and his apps open some how faster (cause they are in cache of the ram) so i would say yes. its better even in every day usage. opening apps. and switching
Hmmmm that's good to hear then. Well I have the 2gb model right now and have the 3gb one coming tomorrow... It's coming from Hong Kong though so slightly worried it will be fake!
It doesn't matter in everyday use at all...
Still, you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783716
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It doesn't matter in everyday use at all...
Still, you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783716
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Cheers, have seen that video before but still didn't help me . It won't cost me anything extra swapping to the 32GB model but it is a HK model so I'm a bit warey about it breaking or being fake etc.
It matters mate... Extra 1gb makes the difference aside from the additional storage...
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It matters mate... Extra 1gb makes the difference aside from the additional storage...
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This is interesting to know.. How exactly this 1gb makes the difference in everyday use?
Have you heard that anybody raised an issue with shortage of RAM while using G3 with KitKat or Lollipop in normal conditions?
3gb is snappier than than 2gb variant... Based on my own experience... As is without tweaks... ?
Don't no about 16gb but my 32gb 3gb ramz the dog
My 16 gb version is snappy as hell, it depends on the user too and how you tweak it.
I traded my 3gb Note 3 for the 2gb G3....I kinda regret it now because my Note 3 was nice and snappy but with the G3 I notice quite a lot of lag
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I traded my 3gb Note 3 for the 2gb G3....I kinda regret it now because my Note 3 was nice and snappy but with the G3 I notice quite a lot of lag
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Amount of RAM does not have anything with lag that you have on G3. 3GB version also have that lag sometimes.
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I have a highly debloated 3gb version, with normal running i have about 500MB free ram but this can drop down to 400MB. If you only have a 2GB phone, it would be 500MB short of ram, even more on a stock rom, meaning apps get stopped to make room for new app to start up. Extra ram means more file data is stored in cache. My phone never lags
The phone performs great without any lag but im concerned over why the OS uses around 3GB ram. Would this be reduced if I switch to another ROM?
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The phone performs great without any lag but im concerned over why the OS uses around 3GB ram. Would this be reduced if I switch to another ROM?
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Probably not, 3gb is about right
Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/memory-managing-ram-android-phone/
I have a Mate 10 with 6GB ram. I find it to be quite responsive. I had 12 aps in recents and still have about 3 GB ram free. So where would folks see improvement in performance on a Mate 20 X with 8 GB ramq. With gaming (which I don't do much of)? Does the camera's AI take up a lot of memory? Is more memory taken up by OS on Mate 20 X so there is less free space? Appreciate people's thought on this before I decide on which Mate 20 X to pick. Thanks!
My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
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There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Exactly given the current pricing of those cards. Makes sense to get more RAM and storage.
Pretty sure 6gb, 8gb, and 10gb are mostly gimmicks to sell the phone. As new android versions come out, things get more efficient not more bloated generally. Its too bad manufacturers didn't put the money into more storage.
The primary reason for the memory isnt for everyday use. The extra memory is for game play. On a everyday usage its not going to make any difference unless you keep every app open and dont close anything. But the primary reason for the 6GB or 8GB is primarily for games so there is less hiccups during play. Because as games get more sophisticated they use more memory.
how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
The 6gb or 8gb of ram makes no difference.
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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You can, you have to turn the off back off, its the same thing as an iPhone, as soon as aniPhone has 5% battery it turns itself on, same thing, if you want it to remain off then you either have to plug it in while the phone is on and then turn it off, or if already off and you plug it in and it turns on, then you will have to turn it off. I know its annoying but thats how it is.
Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
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More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
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Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
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Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
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Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less. ?
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Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less.
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So are you getting the 16 GB version?
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So are you getting the 16 GB version?
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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That's a good question. I don't think that can be answered without tests.
Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
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Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
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Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
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Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
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@ 16 gigs -
- In theory, yes better..
In practical usage, I highly,highly doubt it.
Well worth the extra RAM, I'm getting this phone 12GB purely because it's my main work tool and use some ram hungry apps all day, being able to put the main 3 in RAM with larger brighter screen and larger battery is well worth the money .
I spend 9 hours a day using a phone
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Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
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I was being sarcastic.
16GB is pure marketing, nothing more.
By the time 16GB is relevant on mobile devices, the CPU would be so outdated and slow.
Storage OTOH, matters more than anything.
8K video at decent bit rates; 200Mbps and up, uses a LOT of storage. As will better multichannel audio.
8K seems to be a gimmick at first but when you look at how much info you have in each frame, and there are 24 of them each second, it makes it so much easier to get a still from that video that simply wouldn't be possible by shooting pics with the regular snapper. Serious DSLR users are laughing, but you can't fit one in your pocket!
Storage irrelevant to me as everything I do is saved in the cloud
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Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
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Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
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Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
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But you still use internal memory for storage, isn't it? So what's the deal? Where does faster internal memory help?