Device-Specific Custom ROM vs GSI - Treble-Enabled Device Questions and Answers

Hi there! I was an active member of XDA back in the day of the HTC HD2 and I've recently been intrigued enough to come back to the community because of Project Treble.
I've been seeing posts about people still waiting for device-specific custom ROMS even though they have an 80% functional GSI for their device.
Is there any particular reason why people still prefer custom ROMs, if I'm not mistaken.

satadi said:
Hi there! I was an active member of XDA back in the day of the HTC HD2 and I've recently been intrigued enough to come back to the community because of Project Treble.
I've been seeing posts about people still waiting for device-specific custom ROMS even though they have an 80% functional GSI for their device.
Is there any particular reason why people still prefer custom ROMs, if I'm not mistaken.
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Simply put, device-specific custom roms tend to have less bugs because the devs know exactly which device the rom is going to be run on (minor differences between variants of the same device aside). GSI's can often have issues with camera, bluetooth, etc. when flashed to a specific device. If the issue is device-specific, then it is unlikely that the dev of the GSI will devote much attention to fixing the bug. When such issues occur with a device-specific rom, the dev tends to make efforts to fix it. That being said, if your device has a very reliable vendor partition available for it, then sometimes I have found that GSI's can run just as well, or even better than a device-specific custom rom. And sometimes, if you are someone who doesn't use a certain feature such as VoLTE or bluetooth, then you might not even notice that these features aren't working.
Personally, if there is a rom I want to try and a GSI is the only option for my device, then I won't hesitate to try the GSI. Others who need to have a bug-free experience, however, tend to be more hesitant.

kazekiri said:
Simply put, device-specific custom roms tend to have less bugs because the devs know exactly which device the rom is going to be run on (minor differences between variants of the same device aside). GSI's can often have issues with camera, bluetooth, etc. when flashed to a specific device. If the issue is device-specific, then it is unlikely that the dev of the GSI will devote much attention to fixing the bug. When such issues occur with a device-specific rom, the dev tends to make efforts to fix it. That being said, if your device has a very reliable vendor partition available for it, then sometimes I have found that GSI's can run just as well, or even better than a device-specific custom rom. And sometimes, if you are someone who doesn't use a certain feature such as VoLTE or bluetooth, then you might not even notice that these features aren't working.
Personally, if there is a rom I want to try and a GSI is the only option for my device, then I won't hesitate to try the GSI. Others who need to have a bug-free experience, however, tend to be more hesitant.
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Thx v much for the detailed response, that helps enormously.

kazekiri said:
Simply put, device-specific custom roms tend to have less bugs because the devs know exactly which device the rom is going to be run on (minor differences between variants of the same device aside). GSI's can often have issues with camera, bluetooth, etc. when flashed to a specific device. If the issue is device-specific, then it is unlikely that the dev of the GSI will devote much attention to fixing the bug. When such issues occur with a device-specific rom, the dev tends to make efforts to fix it. That being said, if your device has a very reliable vendor partition available for it, then sometimes I have found that GSI's can run just as well, or even better than a device-specific custom rom. And sometimes, if you are someone who doesn't use a certain feature such as VoLTE or bluetooth, then you might not even notice that these features aren't working.
Personally, if there is a rom I want to try and a GSI is the only option for my device, then I won't hesitate to try the GSI. Others who need to have a bug-free experience, however, tend to be more hesitant.
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That's the response in looking for! Thanks!
But generally, you have treble devs for each device, if I'm not mistaken. That should offset a bit about developers not responding to device-specific issues.

satadi said:
That's the response in looking for! Thanks!
But generally, you have treble devs for each device, if I'm not mistaken. That should offset a bit about developers not responding to device-specific issues.
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That would be the ideal case, but unfortunately it's not very common. There's essentially a dozen developers making GSIs and providing bugfixes for hundreds of Treble devices. Flagships not so much. It's pretty bad though. The bar to compiling an Android OS is very high and it has only gotten worse over the years. I think Google needs to rewrite their Android developer website if they ever hope to get younger generations interested. If you haven't looked, I urge you too. Your average person isn't going to understand much of it. (I've asked friends to read parts of it, and the expressions are priceless.) I'm no stranger to programming or android development and it's still a confusing mess to me.

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[ROM]DL17/Deodexed/Rooted/Busybox/Debinged/Debloated

Hey folks,
This is a very basic DL17 rom. It has been debloated, debinged, rooted, deodexed, and zipaligned. Does NOT include radio or kernel.
Download link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wdv53fbgl18988i
This should serve as a decent base for folks to build their future roms.
Credit to bubby323 for providing me the DL17 system dump.
credit to Logan302 for testing in IRC.
Patch
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update-template/email_continuum.zip This should fix email issues.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update-template/social_apps.zip Social apps.
use at your own risk. I am not responsible for anything you do to your device!
DD
Tested it, and it worked absolutely perfectly my market its even working again xP bonus
Thank you so much for your time and effort! xD
Thanks for sorting out the issues with the syslinks.
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Flashed this, This morning and it works awesome. I also flashed the test kernal you provided a week or so ago and its working great together.
Thanks for this.
Well just noticed some sort of bug on my phone at least.
When i try to add a facebook account to my ticker it fails and when i click on adding an email to my ticker it locks up my phone and i have to pull my battery. It doesnt even get me to a enter email and password screen.
Honestly to me its not a big deal im not a big facebook or email guy so it doesnt bother me.
Also i was wondering if you knew if any of the themes for the fasinate will work for this? I doubt it just wondering.
Fascinate themes must be ported. I'll look into the facebook and email issue fi possible.
Patch added for email.
adrynalyne said:
Fascinate themes must be ported. I'll look into the facebook and email issue fi possible.
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Any idea how i would go about porting them?
There are theme porters out there. I'll get some input from others.
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Any idea how i would go about porting them?
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adrynalyne said:
There are theme porters out there. I'll get some input from others.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
the theme porters that are out there...well they most just copy images with the same (or very similar) file names over one another...the post i linked above is my horribly incomplete but still useful attempt at helping people get into themes for the fascinate.
all the tools neccessary are linked in the posts there.
since the fascinate dj05/dl09 update appears very similar to dl17 porting our themes shouldnt be difficult image wise...however there are several xml changes that must be made (especially for black menus)
if anyone is really interested in starting to theme for the continuum look through the above thread and feel free to pm me here with questions or hop into the fascinate irc...im usually in there during the week throughout the day...or others im sure can help too
i had briefly thought about throwing a theme together for the continuum for fun right before dl30 (froyo) leaked...but now i have too much on my plate reporting stuff
While posting an Android ROM, can you guys PLEASE mention what Android version it is? Is this Eclair or Froyo? 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1...which version? DL17 might explain everything to a developer but not to a user who just wants to flash a ROM on his system and needs to know what Android version it is before actually flashing it.
With all due respect, if you aren't familiar with the naming convention, i.e. don't know what DL17 means, you have no business flashing a rom (until you do). You are gonna end up breaking your device.
2.1Update-1 is the only OS currently available for this device. So.. labeling is a bit redundant right now.
Hey, you guys made the news...
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-continuum-sees-its-first-custom-rom
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adrynalyne said:
With all due respect, if you aren't familiar with the naming convention, i.e. don't know what DL17 means, you have no business flashing a rom (until you do). You are gonna end up breaking your device.
2.1Update-1 is the only OS currently available for this device. So.. labeling is a bit redundant right now.
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Thanks for your response and the clarification and with all due respect, the standard naming convention for Android operating systems is in the format of Android <version number> <dessert codename>. I have been flashing ROMs to several devices before there was any Android and have been doing so on a dozen or so Android devices that I have for the past 6 months as well as guiding others in doing so by writing about it - I write about these for a living.
However, one can't be expected to know all about these non-standard or manufacturer-specific ROM naming conventions for all the Android devices out there and unfortunately, I do not have every single device available to test the ROMs on before I write about them. That is why just a few words by the developer in the OP mentioning what Android version it is make things a lot easier for many of us, plus there are several users who are just starting at the flashing business and it makes things more clear to them as well on what they are getting into. Simply saying that if one doesn't know about these non-standard conventions, one shouldn't be trying these things out is similar to saying if one doesn't know how to swim, one shouldn't be getting into the swimming pool. No offense intended. =)
All that being said, keep up the good work - I really appreciate all the hard work you guys put into what you do. Please don't take my comments as a flame - they are just my views on how things can be improved for a lot of us just by a tiny bit of effort from you guys. =)
It is well known that the continuum only has 2.1. Therefore unless there was a 2.2 leak for it (which would be noted) it can be assume by any reasonable person that its a 2.1 rom.
nitsuj17 said:
It is well known that the continuum only has 2.1. Therefore unless there was a 2.2 leak for it (which would be noted) it can be assume by any reasonable person that its a 2.1 rom.
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Agreed but 'well known' can be relative =) What's well-known to the developer community for a particular device might not be well-known to many who are coming across the flashing scene for the device in question for the first time, despite their prior experience with other Android devices. And as leaks are not out of the question either, just adding two words about the Android version just makes things a bit more clear for everyone, that's all I meant to say.
Coverage
Here's some more coverage for you:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-clockworkmod-recovery-on-samsung-continuum/
&
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-dl17-clean-rooted-android-2-1-rom-on-samsung-continuum/
HQRaja said:
Agreed but 'well known' can be relative =) What's well-known to the developer community for a particular device might not be well-known to many who are coming across the flashing scene for the device in question for the first time, despite their prior experience with other Android devices. And as leaks are not out of the question either, just adding two words about the Android version just makes things a bit more clear for everyone, that's all I meant to say.
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That goes back to this:
adrynalyne said:
With all due respect, if you aren't familiar with the naming convention, i.e. don't know what DL17 means, you have no business flashing a rom (until you do). You are gonna end up breaking your device.
2.1Update-1 is the only OS currently available for this device. So.. labeling is a bit redundant right now.
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If you don't know what OS your phone is already running, or how they're doing the naming convention, you are likely going to cause yourself massive problems soon. If someone can't figure out About Phone to compare build versions, they likely can't figure out how to get CWM on their phone to even flash this, so it doesn't matter if the OS version is in the title. Once Froyo drops, then it may be different, but until then, you have a very thin argument at best, regardless of how many ROMs you may or may not have flashed in the past.
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That goes back to this:
If you don't know what OS your phone is already running, or how they're doing the naming convention, you are likely going to cause yourself massive problems soon. If someone can't figure out About Phone to compare build versions, they likely can't figure out how to get CWM on their phone to even flash this, so it doesn't matter if the OS version is in the title. Once Froyo drops, then it may be different, but until then, you have a very thin argument at best, regardless of how many ROMs you may or may not have flashed in the past.
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In my experience, not knowing the device-specific naming conventions has never bricked any of the dozens of devices I have flashed, as long as I have known that it is a ROM meant for the particular device in question. However, knowing what Android version the ROM is based on without having to ask only makes sense. This isn't about this one device in particular - the Android scene isn't similar to the iPhone scene where there is just one developer (Apple) rolling out just one OS for all the devices on the market. Android is quite fragmented and I believe simply mentioning the Android version with the ROM regardless of whether any other version is out *yet* or not only makes sense as one never knows when a newer version or a leak might be available.
It is all for the purpose of keeping things as clear to someone at first glance, as possible. Now I do know that no other version but this one has been out for the Continuum but that has been after this discussion. All I am requesting is that the OPs should consider mentioning it with the post so that even a newbie wouldn't have to ask for information as basic as this.
What I fail to see here is why this simple, rather humble request should be seen as such a debatable topic by you guys, when it doesn't even require much effort. Heck, all it requires is typing 'Android' followed by the version number. Is it asking for too much?
Okay, this is getting really off-topic and degenerating fast. There are plenty of other threads saying what DL17 is so just hopping out to the Android Development forum would have answered your question. That said, Android ROMs do often include the version, but not always.
It's not that big of a deal. Let it go.
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Future plans. VK810

So I have a vk810. I love it aside from the lack of ROM support. Since I will have an abundance of free time for a while, I will be attempting to compile CyanogenMod for this device working out bugs on a regular basis as experience with android for myself. Assume I know nothing! Well not nothing but nothing compared to people who are good at it Any tips getting started?
cyrushehe said:
So I have a vk810. I love it aside from the lack of ROM support. Since I will have an abundance of free time for a while, I will be attempting to compile CyanogenMod for this device working out bugs on a regular basis as experience with android for myself. Assume I know nothing! Well not nothing but nothing compared to people who are good at it Any tips getting started?
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start with my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759270
i have the devicetree/kernel sources listed
learn how to compile CM11... then, help me fix the GPS/LTE data issues....
then you can use the "fixed" devicetree/kernel to build for almost every other ROM out there with minor tweaks (Omni, AOKP, Paranoid,...)

MIUI ROM

Hello guys,
I saw the MIUI ROM a few days ago and alot of people are praising it and claiming that it is faster than the stock Fire OS.
Can anybody please tell me where I can get that ROM please? My Fire OS is really slow and I'm facing heating problem.
shariq.baig said:
Hello guys,
I saw the MIUI ROM a few days ago and alot of people are praising it and claiming that it is faster than the stock Fire OS.
Can anybody please tell me where I can get that ROM please? My Fire OS is really slow and I'm facing heating problem.
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MIUI was a kang of ggow's CM11 and was pulled due to multiple violations. You're better off downloading the most recent CM11 from ggow's thread. Any "benefits" of MIUI over CM11 were grossly exaggerated or placebo effect at best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/development/rom-cm-11-20150706-unofficial-t3151443
Plonko said:
MIUI was a kang of ggow's CM11 and was pulled due to multiple violations. You're better off downloading the most recent CM11 from ggow's thread. Any "benefits" of MIUI over CM11 were grossly exaggerated or placebo effect at best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/development/rom-cm-11-20150706-unofficial-t3151443
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Thanks Plonko for the help ..
Plonko said:
MIUI was a kang of ggow's CM11 and was pulled due to multiple violations. You're better off downloading the most recent CM11 from ggow's thread. Any "benefits" of MIUI over CM11 were grossly exaggerated or placebo effect at best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/development/rom-cm-11-20150706-unofficial-t3151443
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Yes, it is based on the CM11 Port (which is partly by ggow) without giving him the proper credit. That's bad and should not be done. Noted and agreed.
...but: The MIUI ROM is still very nice. I prefer it over the CM11 ROM. The "benefits" as you refer to it ironically are based on the MIUI system. It feels more responsive to me. Plus I anyway like MIUI (and yes, we could argue now whether it is too colorful/whatever, but hey, I like it ). I won't give a direct link here in order not to make people more angry as they are, but just a small hint: Search for the keywords 4pda fire phone miui in the search engine of your choice and you should find it quickly with the help of e.g. Google Translate.
PS: Just write me if i crossed a line here I am not aware of.
KloNom said:
Yes, it is based on the CM11 Port (which is partly by ggow) without giving him the proper credit. That's bad and should not be done. Noted and agreed.
...but: The MIUI ROM is still very nice. I prefer it over the CM11 ROM. The "benefits" as you refer to it ironically are based on the MIUI system. It feels more responsive to me. Plus I anyway like MIUI (and yes, we could argue now whether it is too colorful/whatever, but hey, I like it ). I won't give a direct link here in order not to make people more angry as they are, but just a small hint: Search for the keywords 4pda fire phone miui in the search engine of your choice and you should find it quickly with the help of e.g. Google Translate.
PS: Just write me if i crossed a line here I am not aware of.
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Hello KloNam, you are certainly entitled to your opinion on MIUI. But I respectfully make the following counterpoints:
1) ggow has been the only contributor the Kodiak CM11 branch. So yes, you could argue from the CM11 level, he has partially contributed, the reality is his fixes are the entire reason CM11 is working on our device. Not to dismiss the contributions of CyanogenMod team, but the same argument would be that CM11 is only partially creditable to CyanogenMod as Google created Android. I assert ggow is solely responsible for CM11 to work as well as it does on this specific device.
2) My understanding is the Fire Phone MIUI ROM was created by simply inserting the CM11 ROM into a MIUI generator. (other phones may have been built from MIUI source, but that was not the case with the Fire Phone). That's why we see all the same bugs and fixes present in CM11 also manifest in MIUI. That's not creating...that's copying plain and simple. It's the equivalent of putting a new filter on a photograph and then saying it's an entirely new picture and not giving credit to the original photographer.
3) I respect that you "feel" it's faster, but in none of readings have I seen any empirical evidence that MIUI is faster (benchmarks, etc.). Visual tweaks like animations can change the perception without actually changing the performance. If you do have evidence of improved performance, I would be genuinely interested. When it comes to the overall look of the ROM, I will not debate as beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.
4) Finally, when installing any ROM on your phone, you *must* consider the legitimacy of the source. Many of us have banking apps on our phones, let alone tons of other data off varying levels of privacy. Therefore, you have to take the integrity of the poster into consideration before installing their ROM. I personally would not install a ROM where the poster was not 100% forthcoming with the sources used. Credibility matters. I want to install the ROM where the actual developer himself is active in the forum providing support if issues arise.
And finally, honestly, I despise people who don't give credit where credit is due or take other's work without asking. Going back to the credibility point, if intellectual honesty isn't a core value, then I don't trust their work product.
Based on the above, I would not recommend others to install MIUI on the Fire Phone. You are of course more than welcome to make your own decision based on your own criteria.
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Hello KloNam, you are certainly entitled to your opinion on MIUI. But I respectfully make the following counterpoints:
1) ggow has been the only contributor the Kodiak CM11 branch. So yes, you could argue from the CM11 level, he has partially contributed, the reality is his fixes are the entire reason CM11 is working on our device. Not to dismiss the contributions of CyanogenMod team, but the same argument would be that CM11 is only partially creditable to CyanogenMod as Google created Android. I assert ggow is solely responsible for CM11 to work as well as it does on this specific device.
2) My understanding is the Fire Phone MIUI ROM was created by simply inserting the CM11 ROM into a MIUI generator. (other phones may have been built from MIUI source, but that was not the case with the Fire Phone). That's why we see all the same bugs and fixes present in CM11 also manifest in MIUI. That's not creating...that's copying plain and simple. It's the equivalent of putting a new filter on a photograph and then saying it's an entirely new picture and not giving credit to the original photographer.
3) I respect that you "feel" it's faster, but in none of readings have I seen any empirical evidence that MIUI is faster (benchmarks, etc.). Visual tweaks like animations can change the perception without actually changing the performance. If you do have evidence of improved performance, I would be genuinely interested. When it comes to the overall look of the ROM, I will not debate as beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.
4) Finally, when installing any ROM on your phone, you *must* consider the legitimacy of the source. Many of us have banking apps on our phones, let alone tons of other data off varying levels of privacy. Therefore, you have to take the integrity of the poster into consideration before installing their ROM. I personally would not install a ROM where the poster was not 100% forthcoming with the sources used. Credibility matters. I want to install the ROM where the actual developer himself is active in the forum providing support if issues arise.
And finally, honestly, I despise people who don't give credit where credit is due or take other's work without asking. Going back to the credibility point, if intellectual honesty isn't a core value, then I don't trust their work product.
Based on the above, I would not recommend others to install MIUI on the Fire Phone. You are of course more than welcome to make your own decision based on your own criteria.
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Hello Plonka, regarding your points:
1) Yes, indeed, that was the point I was referring to. And yes, you can obviously play that game quite long: Without Steels445 no MIUI on Fire Phone -> Without ggow no CM11 on FP -> Without CM-Team no CM -> Without Google no Android -> Without SUN no Android (as we know it) ->...
2) Yes, that ROM hasn't been build from source, but rather by exchanging the right libs/binaries/whatever. Still, it is work. Work somebody spend for free (neglecting the huge amount of fame for making a Custom ROM for a 2 years old amazingly failed Smartphone). Obviously it does not take the same amount of knowledge and probably work. But hey.
3) "Visual tweaks like animations can change the perception without actually changing the performance. " I need the 45k Antutu Performance in perhaps like 0.5% of the time. In all other cases I just want a responsive and snappy UI. And MIUI offers that.
4) Very legit point. Totally agree.
Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy
Plonko said:
Fire Phone MIUI ROM was created by simply inserting the CM11 ROM into a MIUI generator. (other phones may have been built from MIUI source, but that was not the case with the Fire Phone).
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Please build one for us if it is that simple Sir. With all due respect to you and GGOW
shariq.baig said:
Please build one for us if it is that simple Sir. With all due respect to you and GGOW
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I don't have the expertise to provide after-support, and honestly, I've never been a personal fan of MIUI (not my cup of tea).
But if you are interested in getting your hands dirty, here's the link you need to build one for yourself. It's a very straightforward process.
http://en.miui.com/thread-9630-1-1.html
I"m recommending this strictly for your own personal use. If you want to share it on XDA, please discuss with ggow first and ensure you follow XDA's guidleines for crediting the source.
Good luck!
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Please build one for us if it is that simple Sir. With all due respect to you and GGOW
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It's not simple as u said, I was tried with MIUI PatchROM but after long struggle just struck on bootloop and no one ready to help me.
>wrong thread pls delete<

How to choose a ROM?

Hello,
I'm currently running CM 13.1 on my rooted HTC One M8. Given that CM is now superseded by LineageOS (which however seems still in beta) I should upgrade it. I want to keep this phone going as long as I can - I've no wish to buy a new phone - and one way of keeping it perpetually "young", so to speak, is to ensure a good OS. (I had the battery and charging port/headphone jack replaced a few months ago, for about 1/6 the cost of the new phone.) I'm just wondering if there's a list, preferably with annotation (good/bad points about each), of current ROMS for this device. I need my phone to provide a solid experience, and I don't know that I want to spend days hunting through forums trying to find out what's out there, and what works best. I imagine that somebody, somewhere, must provide such a list?
Oh, my phone is the international version; it's not tied to any carrier, and as I say it's rooted. I used adb under Linux to move ROMS and open_gapps between my computer and the phone.
Thanks,
-A.
amca1960 said:
Hello,
I'm currently running CM 13.1 on my rooted HTC One M8. Given that CM is now superseded by LineageOS (which however seems still in beta) I should upgrade it. I want to keep this phone going as long as I can - I've no wish to buy a new phone - and one way of keeping it perpetually "young", so to speak, is to ensure a good OS. (I had the battery and charging port/headphone jack replaced a few months ago, for about 1/6 the cost of the new phone.) I'm just wondering if there's a list, preferably with annotation (good/bad points about each), of current ROMS for this device. I need my phone to provide a solid experience, and I don't know that I want to spend days hunting through forums trying to find out what's out there, and what works best. I imagine that somebody, somewhere, must provide such a list?
Oh, my phone is the international version; it's not tied to any carrier, and as I say it's rooted. I used adb under Linux to move ROMS and open_gapps between my computer and the phone.
Thanks,
-A.
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Read this thread, it might help you decide.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/discussion-android-7-nougat-t3505252
amca1960 said:
Hello,
I'm currently running CM 13.1 on my rooted HTC One M8. Given that CM is now superseded by LineageOS (which however seems still in beta) I should upgrade it. I want to keep this phone going as long as I can - I've no wish to buy a new phone - and one way of keeping it perpetually "young", so to speak, is to ensure a good OS. (I had the battery and charging port/headphone jack replaced a few months ago, for about 1/6 the cost of the new phone.) I'm just wondering if there's a list, preferably with annotation (good/bad points about each), of current ROMS for this device. I need my phone to provide a solid experience, and I don't know that I want to spend days hunting through forums trying to find out what's out there, and what works best. I imagine that somebody, somewhere, must provide such a list?
Oh, my phone is the international version; it's not tied to any carrier, and as I say it's rooted. I used adb under Linux to move ROMS and open_gapps between my computer and the phone.
Thanks,
-A.
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It really depends on how YOU use your ROM. What is important to you? Lineage is probably going to suit you well, or Mokee which is notoriously smooth. I like resolution remix which has heaps of customisations. Without xposed nougat may not be for you. Nougat still does not have agps enabled nor is NFC working correctly. Those may be enough for you to stay with 6.0. If so, I recommend mokee.
amca1960 said:
I'm just wondering if there's a list, preferably with annotation (good/bad points about each), of current ROMS for this device. I need my phone to provide a solid experience, and I don't know that I want to spend days hunting through forums trying to find out what's out there, and what works best. I imagine that somebody, somewhere, must provide such a list?
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A list with good/bad points would be completely subjective. As another mentioned, what works for you depends a lot on personal preference, how you use your phone, and other personal variables.
There is already a "best ROM" discussion thread, if you just scroll down in this forum section and look. The list on the top post of that thread is not very up-to-date. But the ongoing posts/discussions in that thread may be useful to you.
But I'm personally not a big fan of such threads. Just because someone else likes a ROM, has little bearing on whether you will or not; due to the factors already mentioned. ROM comparison threads tend to turn into a popularity contest, and that is not a good thing in many ways. I can think of a number of times on different devices, where some really good ROMs (even some of my favorites) were not the most popular, or very widely discussed.
It certainly doesn't take days to look through the ROMs. Once you've narrowed down a couple basic requirements or preferences (Marshmallow or Nougat; AOSP or otherwise - from your top post, it sounds like you like ASOP ROMs) there really are not a huge number of currently supported ROMs that fit that description. From there, read the top post of the ROM threads to see if the features meet your needs and preferences. Once you have it narrowed down to a couple ROMs, also read through at least the most recent few pages of posts of each ROM thread, to see if there are any current known issues, bugs, etc. (I recommend this as a must before flashing any ROM). From there, just flash a ROM, see if you like it. If not, try another one. Also, make a TWRP backup of your current setup, before flashing any ROMs. That way you can easily revert if you don't like the new ROM, or run into issues.
Really this doesn't take all that much time. An hour or so, and you can pick a ROM or two, and already have it flashed, and be trying it. All possibly in less time than asking others for advice, and waiting for responses. And you've made your own decision, instead of letting strangers (which may not even have the same opinion about ROMs) make the decision for you.

Building Rom from Source for Redmi Note 9/10X Merlin

Hello guys, I was planning to build a rom from source so that we can start integrating different custom roms for our devices. I have a rig with good specs and a good internet connection too. What roms do you suggest to build?
I was kinda planning to build anything that's possible since our Device Tree and Vendor Blobs is now available. I think this is a good opportunity.
Kindly leave some suggestions, I'm just a newbie.
CrDroid, Pixel Experience and Ressurection Remix.
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
VD171 said:
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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MIUI lag like crap and drains battery crazy, at least on my phone.
jjgvv said:
MIUI lag like crap and drains battery crazy, at least on my phone.
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If an O.S. developed by many, many people who are paid to develop this, has lags,
why won't an O.S. developed by one or two people have lags too?
If your battery is discharging quickly, just track battery usage and see what's draining excessively.
VD171 said:
If an O.S. developed by many, many people who are paid to develop this, has lags,
why won't an O.S. developed by one or two people have lags too?
If your battery is discharging quickly, just track battery usage and see what's draining excessively.
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hmmm I must have bought a fake Device with a cheap 3rd party battery and Dual core 2012 MTK processor, or the many, many people are hired mainly not to develop the OS, but hired for inserting pernament adware and bloatware in the Device so that they could earn extra money.
jjgvv said:
hmmm I must have bought a fake Device with a cheap 3rd party battery and Dual core 2012 MTK processor, or the many, many people are hired mainly not to develop the OS, but hired for inserting pernament adware and bloatware in the Device so that they could earn extra money.
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Probably you must to buy an iphone.
VD171 said:
Probably you must to buy an iphone.
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I kind of hate apple Locked crap. The system updates destroys the nice flagship, and if you do not update, they will greet you by not allowing you to install any app.
Samsung is nice for me, but if you hate Samsung, I have nothing to say.
VD171 said:
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
Communos said:
I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
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The computer science of Xiaomi devs should be teached by their PE or Music teacher. Even DIY roms are better than MIUI.
That's the issue with Xiaomi, good hardware, poor software. They are able to provide cheap smartphones only due to earning money from ads in the softwares. Let's see development for Note 9 is going good now, almost every bug is fixed and device tree is stable, forums for note 9 should be filled with roms within time.
cleverdmasoy said:
Hello guys, I was planning to build a rom from source so that we can start integrating different custom roms for our devices. I have a rig with good specs and a good internet connection too. What roms do you suggest to build?
I was kinda planning to build anything that's possible since our Device Tree and Vendor Blobs is now available. I think this is a good opportunity.
Kindly leave some suggestions, I'm just a newbie.
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Give ShapeshiftOS and FluidOS a try, new roms, Quite good.
Communos said:
I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
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I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
VD171 said:
I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
VD171 said:
I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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Then you should not, and never come to this thread as we are talking about custom roms, and talking that you love to stay on MIUI will be a waste of time.
Communos said:
We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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VD171 said:
I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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There are thousands, if not millions, of people using custom roms on a Xiaomi phone and not a single one said their phones are hacked due to the custom rom. To say the least, Even MIUI is not close to being trusted as soon as you unlocked the bootloader.
Communos said:
That's the issue with Xiaomi, good hardware, poor software. They are able to provide cheap smartphones only due to earning money from ads in the softwares. Let's see development for Note 9 is going good now, almost every bug is fixed and device tree is stable, forums for note 9 should be filled with roms within time.
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jjgvv said:
Then you should not, and never come to this thread as we are talking about custom roms, and persuading people to stay on MIUI crap will be a waste of time.
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Who is trying to persuad anybody ?
Who cares for what O.S. you will use ?
I'm givin my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion, well, who cares ?
VD171 said:
Who is trying to persuad anybody ?
Who cares for what O.S. you will use ?
I'm givin my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion, well, who cares ?
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Ok. We are off topic here. Stop the avalanche. If that hurts, I will delete it.
Communos said:
We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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Xiaomi builded the phone. So, I trust on Xiaomi O.S.
Anybody can build an O.S., so I prefer to keep with Xiaomi O.S.
If you prefer to use an O.S. builded by anybody that will never update it, well, it is your problem.
I prefer to keep with original stock rom.
It is my opinion.
VD171 said:
Xiaomi builded the phone. So, I trust on Xiaomi O.S.
Anybody can build an O.S., so I prefer to keep with Xiaomi O.S.
If you prefer to use an O.S. builded by anybody that will never update it, well, it is your problem.
I prefer to keep with original stock rom.
It is my opinion.
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Custom roms are regularly updated, they have maintainers for specific devices who update the rom regularly, with security patches. Please do not speak of something which you don't know of.
Any more replies to this will be ignored, Since you clearly don't know what you're talking about and this is going OFF-TOPIC.

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