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hi. im really interested in this tablet. i want the LTE version. untill now i thought there are two versions of this tablet
WIFI only with Exynos octacore chip
LTE+WIFI version with snapdragon 800 chip
pls check the full specifications.
http://homeshopping.pk/products/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-84-LTE-16GB-Bronze-Price-In-Pakistan.html
now. here where i live, on a local store, they have WIFI only version with EXYNOS version... WTF??? right?
i need the snapdragon version. i have had 3 Exynos phones in the past, Note 2, S3, and NOte 3 and all overheated like ****!
dont need Exynos no more! either i will get the snapdragon one or just let go of idea of buying this tablet. pls check here.
also, can some one here link me amazon or newegg link to LTE snapdragon 800 version of this tablet?
Your observed overheating for sure has NOTHING to do with Exynos.
For the Snapdragon version there are several threads around...
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Your observed overheating for sure has NOTHING to do with Exynos.
For the Snapdragon version there are several threads around...
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well, about the overheating of device with exynos, its true. i have even observed it on one of my friend's Note 3 exynos version. its really unacceptable for samsung not to fix this issue with their in house chip, considering huge R&D budget. so i have decided never to get exynos device at all!
i will get the snapdragon version if its available. if not, then i will get iPad Air or Air 2
can u link me to Snapdragon from newegg or amazon? i cant find.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/snapdragon-t2857038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/lte-model-snapdragon-t2842537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/snapdragon-exynos-version-t2841453
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/snapdragon-t2857038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/lte-model-snapdragon-t2842537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/snapdragon-exynos-version-t2841453
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thank u a lot bro but i didn't mean links here on xda.
i need link to NEWEGG OR AMAZON where they are selling the SNAPDRAGON 800 VERSION, from WHERE I CAN BUY!
Just go ahead and ask in these threads. Probably you can get Snapdragon version only by contract (I don't know, since I have Exynos version).
both come with exynos chip. wifi or the lte version. both. if you see the device code SM-T700 or SM-T705. it is exynos.
the only snapdragon version are for US Variant which i thin cant work on other place because we use a different band.
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well, about the overheating of device with exynos, its true. i have even observed it on one of my friend's Note 3 exynos version. its really unacceptable for samsung not to fix this issue with their in house chip, considering huge R&D budget. so i have decided never to get exynos device at all!
i will get the snapdragon version if its available. if not, then i will get iPad Air or Air 2
can u link me to Snapdragon from newegg or amazon? i cant find.
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Well, my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (WiFi Only) is the only Exynos based device I have had, so I have no way to compare it to earlier versions. I can say that mine never over heats. Of course I have the book cover on it. But I've never noticed it being hot or even warm and it isn't showing any signs of instability.
Snapdragon has much better development
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Well, my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (WiFi Only) is the only Exynos based device I have had, so I have no way to compare it to earlier versions. I can say that mine never over heats. Of course I have the book cover on it. But I've never noticed it being hot or even warm and it isn't showing any signs of instability.
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i have never used any kind of cover for any of my phones or tablets. im of the idea that the devices are meant to be used the way they are. i like them naked
i know Exynos gets hot, cause this same chip is used in Pro series and i have used that for like 10 minutes of Asphalt and it DID get quite warm!
and im pretty sure, cause of such a high res display, this would too. mainly because where i live its quite hot. u know, its 25th november today and time right now is 11:30pm night, and guess whats the temperature here, its 25C!
in summer it get as high as 46C-49C. even air conditioning does not help some times!
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^this, also lag is very limited in Touchwiz. thats the only reason i left samsung.
i personally like FLASHY and vibrant UI of samsung, but i HATE LAG!
i switched to LG . infact, i first got a monitor from LG and i was LITERALLY ASTONISHED by its panel! thats why i got LG G2! and i was REALLY AMAZED by their optimus UI and G2 UI and boy, G2 is a BATTERY CHAMP! i loved that device so much.
and there was NO lag at all! i mean NONE! even when LG's UI is almost same as TOUCHWIZ.
i guess, samsung puts some special ingredient touchwiz to make it lag like hell, on SNAPDRAGON 805 chip (NOTE 4)
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both come with exynos chip. wifi or the lte version. both. if you see the device code SM-T700 or SM-T705. it is exynos.
yeah u are right. i have checked it thorougly and i have found that only 2 of US variants offer 800 one. one of them is Sprint. its the last alphabet that is different. like T705V and T705C also, T805V and T805C
the only snapdragon version are for US Variant which i thin cant work on other place because we use a different band.
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...i know Exynos gets hot, cause this same chip is used in Pro series.
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Mine does not get hot. Also, Exynos is not the only SOC used in the pro series. The pro 8.4 uses a Snapdragon 800
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Mine does not get hot. Also, Exynos is not the only SOC used in the pro series. The pro 8.4 uses a Snapdragon 800
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see this
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Exyn....4-cant-take-the-heat-owner-complains_id58305
I'm curious about how these two fair against each other. Some of the things I wonder about are Cusom ROMs, Unlocked Bootloader, and Rooting support. As well as real life tests with them does one of them run faster, does on of them have great battery life. Those things. I know that the Galaxy S7 Exynos had a better battery life then the Snapdragon Galaxy S7. Wondering if that is true.
I ask on here because I have not found any articles that had hand on tests, only theories on both phones.
Thanks.
both are rootable. only the exynos has roms as of right now. exynos has better batery life and less lag. SD is supposed to have better 4G signal, but my exynos note 7 had the same signal strength on At&T as my wifes AT&T branded S7.
Would the exynos note 7 have VOLTE on T-Mobile?
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Would the exynos note 7 have VOLTE on T-Mobile?
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i doubt it. I know AT&T only allows their own branded phones to have advanced features.
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i doubt it. I know AT&T only allows their own branded phones to have advanced features.
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Yeah i figured. Thats literally the only thing keeping me from getting one. And I dont want the snapdragon.
I think Samsung patched the root on latest SD Note7 update, so that's something else to keep in mind.
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I think Samsung patched the root on latest SD Note7 update, so that's something else to keep in mind.
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yup it's patched
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both are rootable. only the exynos has roms as of right now. exynos has better batery life and less lag. SD is supposed to have better 4G signal, but my exynos note 7 had the same signal strength on At&T as my wifes AT&T branded S7.
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The one thing I have heard is that the SP has a better GPU then the Exynos chip. Have you noticed any lag for games?
I am planning on going with custom ROMs, I am not of a fan of samsung software. So part of what I want is good support for custom roms in the future because I doubt that patch for the SP root will last. So what I'm curious about is will the Exynos continue to have more support for custom ROMs then the SP Note 7?
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The one thing I have heard is that the SP has a better GPU then the Exynos chip. Have you noticed any lag for games?
I am planning on going with custom ROMs, I am not of a fan of samsung software. So part of what I want is good support for custom roms in the future because I doubt that patch for the SP root will last. So what I'm curious about is will the Exynos continue to have more support for custom ROMs then the SP Note 7?
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My gaming consists of candy crush. I have not noticed any lag at all ever.
Support for the exynos will probably be better in the long run but no real way to tell
Once again us within the UK and the rest of the world are stuck with the subpar exynos variant.
We all know that the newer exynos version has been terrible in terms of power efficiency ever since the Galaxy S9. Adding further misery, Samsung provides only U.S. limited warranty, which is a joke for a company as big as Samsung.
Just ordered a Xiaomi Mi 9
u also get a 10h SoT with the exynos... and i can unlock it...
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Once again us within the UK and the rest of the world are stuck with the subpar exynos variant.
We all know that the newer exynos version has been terrible in terms of power efficiency ever since the Galaxy S9. Adding further misery, Samsung provides only U.S. limited warranty, which is a joke for a company as big as Samsung.
Just ordered a Xiaomi Mi 9
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Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
mulkman said:
Once again us within the UK and the rest of the world are stuck with the subpar exynos variant.
We all know that the newer exynos version has been terrible in terms of power efficiency ever since the Galaxy S9. Adding further misery, Samsung provides only U.S. limited warranty, which is a joke for a company as big as Samsung.
Just ordered a Xiaomi Mi 9
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I ordered the S10e for £500 Snapdragon variant from eGlobal. Beats the Mi 9 every single way except the battery size
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Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
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This was true for the s8, but the OP is correct with S9/S10.
If Samsung truly dialed back newer exynos variants, they went too far because the snapdragon variant outperforms it by significant margin.
So if I bought the snapdragon variant in europe via eglobal, I won't be able to root it or am I wrong?
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So if I bought the snapdragon variant in europe via eglobal, I won't be able to root it or am I wrong?
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Snapdragon hasn't been rooted since the s8
electrash said:
Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
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That's ridiculous. They are not doing that.
There's nothing subpar, they need Qualcomm because the USA is stuck in the stone age with their CDMA, Qualcomm is also impeding technological evolution by exploiting patent loopholes in countries with badly made law systems such as that, Qualcomm needs to die.
So far Snapdragons have vastly inferior battery life(have a look at the funny thread), 2/3 of the single core performance and 3 to 4 times higher memory delay, even the first iteration of ddr3 performs better.
But yeah have fun with your Chinese flagship I guess, let the fake Antutu scores keep you warm
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That's ridiculous. They are not doing that.
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I am kinda amazed that you don't know that since you are in the phone's now more than me. But anyway this is the quote from some of the sites that you can find with Google.
Although the camera sensors on last year’s Samsung flagships were capable pf it, it was only this year that Samsung switched on 4K/60p video recording. Because it is only with the Snapdragon 845 that Qualcomm finally supported that feature too. That said, last year’s Samsung Exynos 8895 were already capable of that high resolution, high frame rate recording. But to play fair with Snapdragon 835 variants, Samsung disabled the feature.
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The Exynos 9820, like previous Exynos chips, has better video recording capabilities than the competing Snapdragon chip. The 9820, for example, can record 8K videos at 30 fps (frames per second) and 4K videos at 150 fps. The Snapdragon 855, meanwhile, seems to only support 4K recording at 60 fps like the Snapdragon 845, which means Samsung is unlikely to offer [email protected] fps or [email protected] fps in any market. The 855 does, however, get the ability to record HDR videos, something Samsung isn’t confirming or denying for the 9820 just yet.
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It's probably a lot to do with cost.
Qualcomm have Samsung over a barrel. They basically have to use the Snapdragon for the US devices, for the CDMA chipsets for the US networks that still use CDMA. It was either that or use Exynos chipset with Qualcomm radios, which Qualcomm were going to charge a fortune for.
And the rest of the world (except a couple of Asian countries) get Exynos, probably because it's cheaper. And developed by Samsung, so they have complete control over it.
It is also available as SM-G9750/DS (China version sourced from Hong Kong)
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Snapdragon hasn't been rooted since the s8
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Thats not true.
The HK and latin America snaps are rootable- no locked BL.
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Thats not true.
The HK and latin America snaps are rootable- no locked BL.
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They're also middle-range busy markets that couldn't care less about Samsung flagships, so those units are almost nonexistent.
electrash said:
I am kinda amazed that you don't know that since you are in the phone's now more than me. But anyway this is the quote from some of the sites that you can find with Google.
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Wow I'm kind of amazed you would do virtually zero research. Based on anantech scores the Samsung varient is behind in virtually every category and also trailing the 845 version in many categories.
And just so you know I've done nothing with phones for years. I did write a few apps but I've not had the time in a while so I'm very out of it loop. I just know that Qualcomm is not behind Samsung in chip making. They are also better optimized and more power efficient.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14031/samsung-galaxy-s10-first-exynos-9820-vs-snapdragon-855-scores
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Wow I'm kind of amazed you would do virtually zero research. Based on anantech scores the Samsung varient is behind in virtually every category and also trailing the 845 version in many categories.
And just so you know I've done nothing with phones for years. I did write a few apps but I've not had the time in a while so I'm very out of it loop. I just know that Qualcomm is not behind Samsung in chip making. They are also better optimized and more power efficient.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14031/samsung-galaxy-s10-first-exynos-9820-vs-snapdragon-855-scores
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Then we agree that we disagree. I know potential of Exynos is more capable of Snapdragon in terms of camera department. They are similar of course I can't say one is better then the other. And to be honest for me few thousand points more on some bench doesn't mean a penny. It will load app 0.1 sec faster, do I need it? No. Would I like better camera like 4K 150fps well kinda yes but still to be honest kinda not worthy cuz I still record 1080p 60fps.
No bad feelings man, I wish you all the best just a little argumentative conversation ?
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u also get a 10h SoT with the exynos... and i can unlock it...
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Where is the 10 hr SoT from? I'm seeing some threads saying battery drain is a issue for the Exynos versions
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Where is the 10 hr SoT from? I'm seeing some threads saying battery drain is a issue for the Exynos versions
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Look in the review section, then battery thread. Multiple screenshots where Exy hits 10hrs. Take that as you will.
electrash said:
Subpar?
Dude they need to actually thorthle down Exynos power to match Snapdragon to be exact.
On S8 exyons is able to record longer with higher frame rate and higher resolution then snapdragon but they disable it so snapdragon could match up
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I guess this is a good reason to unlock and root to get a custom kernel with an overclock at some point!
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Corv0 said:
They're also middle-range busy markets that couldn't care less about Samsung flagships, so those units are almost nonexistent.
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Who buys them really isnt important the fact that they are easily purchased on Ebay is important. In that sense they exist in abundance.
What's almost nonexistent is development other than twrp and root for said devices.
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
Guitarfreak26 said:
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
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Snapdragon 855+ Galaxy Fold(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 11150
QRD865(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 10247
QRD865(Performance)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 12524
Exynos 990 S20Ultra(Default)
PCMark Work2.0 Performance 11823
Guitarfreak26 said:
Hi All,
Currently using an iPhone 11 Pro Max and I'm relatively happy with it and the amazing battery but I'm bored and thinking of coming back to android.
Just not sure if its worth splashing £1200 on a device with an Exynos processor again!
Will Exynos be as bad again this year?
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I also have the iPhone 11 Pro Max and coming back to Android and too be honest the Exynos VS SD865 does not really bother me, the performance is slower than the SD865 and possibly battery life (specially in standby) may not be the same, but the screen, camera, design, openness of Android more than make up for that I reckon.
Last time I had a Galaxy was the S10 and that was a very nice phone and my only gripe back then was the really poor signal quality so if this is resolved in the S20 Ultra then I am a happy.
You could of course import it if you must have the SD version.
Gadgetsboy on Twitter already discussing the poor battery life on Exynos models... And so it begins lol
Exynos was bad last year on the s10 plus but did get better with updates, eventually swapped for the p30 Pro which is a beast, I too am hoping it's better this year, why can't they all be snapdragon?
russellcausier said:
Exynos was bad last year on the s10 plus but did get better with updates, eventually swapped for the p30 Pro which is a beast, I too am hoping it's better this year, why can't they all be snapdragon?
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1) Not enough production.
2) Samsung makes a better profit from Exynos.
3) diversification is good, some years Qualcomm is better, some years Qualcomm is the SD810.
This was my initial question, as exynos has historically been crap.
Namely the GPU being underpowered compared to the same gen Adreno.
I've heard that the exynos / Mali this time is 20% faster, but that tells me nothing, I've also read that even South Korea has gone for the 865 which to me speaks volumes.
Not sure what all this would do for development, I've been away from Samsung since the S5 and note 4, I just couldn't deal with the exynos and it's sub par GPU, as I use emulators from time to time and the Adreno just works, plus you get driver updates.
If the new Mali is comparable to the Adreno (newest) then I'd think about getting this phone.
But my decision would hang on that and the aforementioned crap battery.
Have heard that this may be the last exynos too but couldn't confirm that.
Just wait for Gary explains YouTube channel to make a comparison between the two versions.
I guess the Snapdragon its going to be around 16% to 20% faster than the exynos.
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg
You won't likely notice the performance difference. But you will notice the horrible standby battery drain. Overnight, my exynos S20U drop 7% in airplane mode. Compare that to just 1% for my Asus ROG Phone II (not in airplane). But still better than exynos S10+ (10% overnight).
I’m hoping it gets fixed with software updates. Was still on the fence about moving over even though I pre ordered. The battery life on the 11 pro max is absolutely insane, still debating whether it’s worth losing that lol
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Would an imported phone with Snapdragon work fine on European networks? I'm seriously considering importing the damn phone due to that Exynos nonsense..
Diaoul said:
Would an imported phone with Snapdragon work fine on European networks? I'm seriously considering importing the damn phone due to that Exynos nonsense..
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I'm in the same situation - considering getting the HK variant (G9880) which supports pretty much all of the 4G/5G network channels..
I had the S10+ 855 in Australia on Vodafone and it was magic. well over 50mbits+ more download speed than the Exynos too..
Yup I imported snapdragon variant unlocked. Working flawlessly
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Yup I imported snapdragon variant unlocked. Working flawlessly
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Where from?
Guitarfreak26 said:
Where from?
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Just use Wondamobile like always.
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Just use Wondamobile like always.
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Not shipping until 24th Got a exynos ordered from JL for now... Keep wondering whether to cancel or not
Guitarfreak26 said:
Not shipping until 24th Got a exynos ordered from JL for now... Keep wondering whether to cancel or not
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Don’t cancel. The phone is belter. The noise out there is just noise. Look at it this way, find a phone as a package that has hardware and software as good as, as capable as this phone.
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Don’t cancel. The phone is belter. The noise out there is just noise. Look at it this way, find a phone as a package that has hardware and software as good as, as capable as this phone.
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Did you move from your Max? haha
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Did you move from your Max? haha
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Lol I’ve had a few phones. iPhone 11 Pro has my main sim at the moment. Hoping the Ultra takes over though.
I think this whole exynos thing is overblown, yes there are differences in battery standby etc but surely having a UK warranty, ability to go to a samsung centre for any repairs, resale value is more important?
The S20 has 2 available CPUs: Snapdragon 865 and Exynos 990. Which will make a better phone? ?
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The S20 has 2 available CPUs: Snapdragon 865 and Exynos 990. Which will make a better phone? ?
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At the moment I'm not sure.
Historically the exynos has been behind in the GPU department.
But the trade off has been the SD chips have been bootloader locked.
The exynos I've heard can still be unlocked, so if the GPU / CPU has caught up at all then it would be the preferred device in my opinion.
But too tell the truth it's really down to you.
I read somewhere that this year the Exynos build isn't very good. They said it lagged behind SD in most measurements but I don't remember where I read this.
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I read somewhere that this year the Exynos build isn't very good. They said it lagged behind SD in most measurements but I don't remember where I read this.
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Ahhh don't say that
So long as it can run the windwaker at a solid 30fps I'll be happy.
Go snapdragon if you can. Exynos 990 is a pile of turd
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The S20 has 2 available CPUs: Snapdragon 865 and Exynos 990. Which will make a better phone? ?
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Since Galaxy S8, Snapdragon is ahead of the number game in benchmarks. The last good performing Exynos is from the Galaxy S7. In normal day to day usage, you won't notice the performance difference though, they're mostly identical in speed except for the battery efficiency, Exynos drains battery faster.
cheetah2k said:
Go snapdragon if you can. Exynos 990 is a pile of turd
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Can you root the Snapdragon?
I don't think you can so I wouldn't touch it
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Can you root the Snapdragon?
I don't think you can so I wouldn't touch it
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Tbh there are plenty of nice looking girls out there that I would root before my phone. I don't root my android phones, so for me I'd rather reap the performance advantage than the mod-ability..
As with the S10+, the SD855 had way better camera processing power too. No doubts this trend will continue with the SD865 :good:
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Tbh there are plenty of nice looking girls out there that I would root before my phone. I don't root my android phones, so for me I'd rather reap the performance advantage than the mod-ability..
As with the S10+, the SD855 had way better camera processing power too. No doubts this trend will continue with the SD865 :good:
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Performance?
Ok so my OnePlus 5, rooted and with a custom ROM managed a 14 hour and 47 minutes screen on time in a single charge, I have proof on the OnePlus 5 thread.
My P20 Pro managed 17 hours, also rooted with a custom ROM..
So your theory is broken pal, also to do with performance, removing swap storage actually speeds up the device, definitely for gaming.
Not to mention truly being able to debloat.
Just because I root. Don't think for a moment that it isn't stable or things are broken lol, if you've got a bad device or a novice dev then yea sh** will be broken but for the most part on most devices it's perfectly fine.
Not to mention the additional features which you obtain by having root access.
For me it's an absolute no brainer, as for the previous galaxy's I can't comment, but let's see what happens after the 13th and perhaps a day one patch.
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Performance?
Ok so my OnePlus 5, rooted and with a custom ROM managed a 14 hour and 47 minutes screen on time in a single charge, I have proof on the OnePlus 5 thread.
My P20 Pro managed 17 hours, also rooted with a custom ROM..
So your theory is broken pal, also to do with performance, removing swap storage actually speeds up the device, definitely for gaming.
Not to mention truly being able to debloat.
Just because I root. Don't think for a moment that it isn't stable or things are broken lol, if you've got a bad device or a novice dev then yea sh** will be broken but for the most part on most devices it's perfectly fine.
Not to mention the additional features which you obtain by having root access.
For me it's an absolute no brainer, as for the previous galaxy's I can't comment, but let's see what happens after the 13th and perhaps a day one patch.
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You are reading way too fast into the other guy's post.
Yes, with root you can modify things to make performance better, but you're still limited by hardware.
Honestly, with or workout for, exynos or snapdragon you're going to get 99% the same phone.
Early bench marks already show the Exynos 990 is a pile of turd. While I'll reserve judgement until the direct comparisons have been done the initial results are similar to last year's. 99% of phone users won't root either. So that should not even be a consideration Pal
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You are reading way too fast into the other guy's post.
Yes, with root you can modify things to make performance better, but you're still limited by hardware.
Honestly, with or workout for, exynos or snapdragon you're going to get 99% the same phone.
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Mmmm I dunno I didn't mention the girls sentence?
Plus if the exynos is as some have said, then it won't be 99% the same phone.
Supposedly and I can't say for sure until I use it.
Exynos is meant to be weaker in terms of GPU (I expected that)
Exynos is meant to drain faster than the 865 (I didn't expect that)
Updates against the exynos and it's Mali GPU are going to be few and far between and seeing as s.korea is now using the SD, that can be expected to be worse than previous years, which isn't good news at all..
Best case scenario is that the Mali is on par with the 855 or 855+
Can be rooted
Gets updates to fix drain
Gets updates to fix camera
Lastly, the limits of hardware are fine, if you can test them, on stock you can't.
dladz said:
Mmmm I dunno I didn't mention the girls sentence?
Plus if the exynos is as some have said, then it won't be 99% the same phone.
Supposedly and I can't say for sure until I use it.
Exynos is meant to be weaker in terms of GPU (I expected that)
Exynos is meant to drain faster than the 865 (I didn't expect that)
Updates against the exynos and it's Mali GPU are going to be few and far between and seeing as s.korea is now using the SD, that can be expected to be worse than previous years, which isn't good news at all..
Best case scenario is that the Mali is on par with the 855 or 855+
Can be rooted
Gets updates to fix drain
Gets updates to fix camera
Lastly, the limits of hardware are fine, if you can test them, on stock you can't.
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The GPU is worse only because it is a 'stock' ARM GPU where as Qualcomm builds a custom, GPU. The differences, on average, are minor in everyday use, at least historically.
The battery issues I can't talk about much. Last phone I had as a Exynos was the S9+ and it was within a few percentage points of my S9+ SD. And battery is very much a personal thing, people use their phones very differently and the battery drain is very different based on things as obscure as signal type and strength.
I highly doubt the international version will be worse off than before, but only time will tell.
On stock you can test the hardware. You can't push it the extra 1% to get that tiny additional boost. Thing is, not everyone wants to or can root. Root brings its own problems especially with security. But I don't really want to argue if any one person should root or not, that's up to the person.
_Dennis_ said:
The GPU is worse only because it is a 'stock' ARM GPU where as Qualcomm builds a custom, GPU. The differences, on average, are minor in everyday use, at least historically.
The battery issues I can't talk about much. Last phone I had as a Exynos was the S9+ and it was within a few percentage points of my S9+ SD. And battery is very much a personal thing, people use their phones very differently and the battery drain is very different based on things as obscure as signal type and strength.
I highly doubt the international version will be worse off than before, but only time will tell.
On stock you can test the hardware. You can't push it the extra 1% to get that tiny additional boost. Thing is, not everyone wants to or can root. Root brings its own problems especially with security. But I don't really want to argue if any one person should root or not, that's up to the person.
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Nah mate I wholeheartedly disagree, I had the OnePlus 5 which I think had an 850 and compared to any exynos at the time or the one after the oneplus outperformed it on the dolphin emulator, all games from the play store and benchmarks.
The GPU has always been the exynos' weak spot, I just hope this year they may have caught up a little.
Single core CPU performance and multi had been close, which is why using the device appeared fine, but the GPU is a different matter