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Hey guys im looking for a new phone which isn't heavy on the budget but still delivers (currently using Nexus 5x) and im deciding between the HTC 10 and GS S7 Edge , the 10 is brand new 270 pounds and the S7 Edge is refurbished 300 pounds . I would like to hear your opinions and is it worth buying in late 2017 .
Are you getting an Exynos GS7 or a Snapdragon one? If I recall correctly, only the Exynos model has lots of development because the Snapdragon models are locked down. I assume you care since you're asking on XDA.
Other than that, what else is important to you? Would you prefer a more compact phone or a larger one? Is waterproofness necessary for you? I hate extreme curved screens but you might like it.
For me, the HTC 10 is still a great phone in 2017. We're definitely getting Oreo and the only real lacking point is waterproofness (which isn't even important to everyone). It's fast, has a good camera, the battery life is good and development has been good.
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Are you getting an Exynos GS7 or a Snapdragon one? If I recall correctly, only the Exynos model has lots of development because the Snapdragon models are locked down. I assume you care since you're asking on XDA.
Other than that, what else is important to you? Would you prefer a more compact phone or a larger one? Is waterproofness necessary for you? I hate extreme curved screens but you might like it.
For me, the HTC 10 is still a great phone in 2017. We're definitely getting Oreo and the only real lacking point is waterproofness (which isn't even important to everyone). It's fast, has a good camera, the battery life is good and development has been good.
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The Exynos model , waterproofness isn't a necessary for me , im looking for a better performance and battery life and yes i do like to tinker with my phones i've moded my nexus with root , kernel , thermal optimizations and so on . What kind of screen on time do you get ? My nexus gets me 3 hours of screen on time max with a total time off charger 7-8 hours im down to 10 % , i consider my use as a heavy one because i like to play games listen to music on spotify and chat .
If battery life is your most important factor (performance won't be that far apart overall) then the Edge will probably do better since it's a larger phone (and hence a larger battery).
The HTC 10 is competent for a 2016 flagship but nothing extraordinary. When I'm playing games, I get between 4-5 hours of SOT for example. You'll find that 4-5 hours SOT is what most people report for their SOTs under heavy use.
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If battery life is your most important factor (performance won't be that far apart overall) then the Edge will probably do better since it's a larger phone (and hence a larger battery).
The HTC 10 is competent for a 2016 flagship but nothing extraordinary. When I'm playing games, I get between 4-5 hours of SOT for example. You'll find that 4-5 hours SOT is what most people report for their SOTs under heavy use.
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Okay thanks for your time you gave me valuable information and now its up to me setting my priorities in deciding which one to buy.
I don't know about others, but the HTC 10 has been a pretty amazing phone for me. The size is just perfect, the audio is amazing, and the software, even if a little stale, is fast and smooth.
My only problem with it is the battery. My battery life has been horrible ever since the Nougat Update, and after sending it to the service, I'm certain that this is a software issue. I hope that Oreo will fix this issue though.
If you rely on battery as heavy gamer/user don't look at this phone, drainage is very fast just with medium use, heavy kills it faster. S7 has more endurance
I recently bought a HTC 10. I was thinking of getting an S7 but I opted for the HTC 10 for things that I like, such as, 3.5mm jack at the top of the device, metal body, volume keys and power on the right hand side and type c usb 3.1 (more for the future).
A key reason for the HTC 10 are the custom roms that are currently available on the AOSP side. In terms of manufacturer stock android, HTC Sense isn't too bad. Although I do rock a custom rom (AICP to be precise) I do miss HTC's boomsound, HTC camera and power saving.
I have both the 10 and the Pixel 1 (5 inch). I've used both a lot - concentrating on the 10 for a good half a year until I just gave up. Although the 10's Android is nearly identical to AOSP, the fact that HTC doesn't care about decimal updates (no 7.1) - there are particular parts of the upgrade to 7.1 on the Pixel which would fix some of the annoyances I've found with 7.0 on the 10 - and that the software on the Pixel works so well that I prefer to just modify it with some root apps than run a custom ROM anymore, I would go for anything but the 10. Also, my wife and I had a horrible experience having her phone replaced under their non-warranty 1st year Uh Oh Prorection deal.
I also really don't like that with polarized sunglasses on, the 10's screen is unviewable in portrait mode. Most manufacturers choose landscape mode for that, and the Pixel screen is only black at odd angles (diagonally).
Now the only thing I use the 10 for is music, and to have a spare just in case.
Which network are you on?
I love my 10 except for whatever nougat has done to the battery life. It's decent but not as good as it was on the previous Android version.
Other than that...the size is good, sound is great, the screen is really good, no bloatware and the available themes give your phone a new feeling when you need it. HTC has also been very good with the security updates.
If you're looking for cases, I'd recommend checking Ali Express. They have a better selection than Amazon.
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I love my 10 and all, and I think it was the most remarkable phone of 2016. It was the only real choice for a "robust" phone that you can rely on to not disintegrate if it falls, with all the flagship specs of 2016. The fingerprint sensor is better than the S7E, and the screen colors are better IMO. The camera is great for average use, which is what I can comment on.
That being said, I'd get a Nokia this year. Or better yet, wait for next year's refresh of the Nokia 5 and get it with Oreo and Project Treble. I think this should be any tinkerer's criteria for a phone purchase from here on: PROJECT TREBLE. Phone after phone, I find myself spending my money on a higher resolution screen (1080p is enough), and a faster SOC (any modern SOC will get the job done wonderfully), just so that I can buy into the update-receiving club of an OEM. With Project Treble, I can give up this "forced-upgrade" for the sake of updates, and rest assured that I'll always have the latest version of Android running, either with OEM support or with XDA support.
Cheers and good luck.
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Hey guys im looking for a new phone which isn't heavy on the budget but still delivers (currently using Nexus 5x) and im deciding between the HTC 10 and GS S7 Edge , the 10 is brand new 270 pounds and the S7 Edge is refurbished 300 pounds . I would like to hear your opinions and is it worth buying in late 2017 .
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Beware the hidden issue with these phones is that they have 4gb of ram and 3.6-3.8 usable. Heavier multi tasking between some apps for example, chrome, spotify, fb messenger, and your choice of texting apps does not go well. I used to have the one plus 3 and it handled that multi tasking like a champion. If you could I would recommend the one plus 3 it can get 6-8 hours sot with the right kernels and roms. You also dont have to deal with touch wiz. Also the one plus 3 has the same 3000 mah battery htc has I'm not sure what the s7 has. But I bet you couldnt get 8 hours sot on it lol
Just my two cents, but I like my 10 a lot. I do run a custom ROM on it, and bought the Sprint version, which can be unlocked to use on any network except for VZ. You can also unlock LTE bands with this phone, so it will work with literally every network that's not on VZ...worldwide.
The screen is probably the best non-(AM)OLED screen that I've used, but I do miss the (AM)OLED from my S5 and Droid Turbo.
The camera does very very well with the modified Google camera by BSG or Arnova8G2, at least in mid to higher lights. In low light you have to turn off ZSL or else it'll be very very dark.
The battery is mediocre. I get about 4 hours of SoT before I feel the need to recharge. That's with fairly heavy use/games.
Build quality is great. Gorilla Glass 3 is just as strong as 5 (just not as thin) but it will scratch on you. There aren't any good glass screen protectors for this phone, so you'll have to tough it out without one or go the flexible screen protector route. Zack from JerryRigEverything named this the most sturdy phone of 2016.
The modding community is great, and other than the OnePlus and a few Samsungs, it's more popular on XDA even than the Pixel. There's two 8.0 ROMs out there and both are very capable daily drivers.
What I want that would make this the perfect phone: OLED screen, bettery battery, better case selection (the imak cowboy case is pretty nice, same with the Nillkin Nature), no low-light photo issues with Google Camera. That's it. Literally, it has everything else I could want.
Ringanar said:
Hey guys im looking for a new phone which isn't heavy on the budget but still delivers (currently using Nexus 5x) and im deciding between the HTC 10 and GS S7 Edge , the 10 is brand new 270 pounds and the S7 Edge is refurbished 300 pounds . I would like to hear your opinions and is it worth buying in late 2017 .
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To the question in the title, I'd answer, "maybe" but the latest Chinese offerings look tempting but I don't know their quality.
To the question in the post (10 vs S7 Edge), that's a different one altogether, so not sure which one you're really asking. I upgraded to the 10 from the Nexus 5 (not the 5X) and found it to be an excellent upgrade in the post-Nexus world. (The Pixel cost too much for my taste and, frankly, it's ugly.)
Prior to the N5, I had the Samsung SIII and loved that phone. The hardware, anyway; I hate TouchWiz and removed it from my SIII and Note 10.1. Between greater bootloader unlock hassle and explosions (and the dishonest handling of those), I avoid Samsung entirely (to include computer hardware and household appliances).
That's my thinking that may give you some ideas to consider. My only issues with the htc 10 are the display quality issue (yellow tint at the bottom) and the temperamental fingerprint scanner. (poor customer service and slow updates but those are normative for all OEMs, sans Google on the latter) Otherwise, it's a solid phone with a superb aesthetic, especially the red one and, at the time, it was deeply discounted by htc.
thunder2132 said:
What I want that would make this the perfect phone: OLED screen, bettery battery, better case selection (the imak cowboy case is pretty nice, same with the Nillkin Nature), no low-light photo issues with Google Camera. That's it. Literally, it has everything else I could want.
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Add to that a removable battery door, so that the battery may be removed completely. I hate this "glue the phone together" style of manufacturing.
One year on, my battery is weak and the performance is choppy. I just put up with it rather than have to reset it all the time.
But I bought it mainly for the audio performances and it's fantastic in that regard. If you look at it as getting a nice mobile phone and superb DAP in one the price now is a bargain.
I've been with my HTC 10 since May 2016 so that has been 1.5 year and these are my experiences
- Camera is GREAT (snappy - lots of functions - great quality)
- Performance has been as snappy as Pure Android
- Updates aren't so often (official ROMs are still on 7.0 and most probably August Patch lol)
- Battery has been a little bit worsen since Nougat update but I gotten rid of the issue by installing custom kernels and great ROMs you could find here in XDA.
- Device quality is TOP-NOTCH
- Sound quality is STILL ON OF THE BEST TODAY (you could use any fancy or higher impedance headphones on this boy and it sounds LEGIT)
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I've been with my HTC 10 since May 2016 so that has been 1.5 year and these are my experiences
- Camera is GREAT (snappy - lots of functions - great quality)
- Performance has been as snappy as Pure Android
- Updates aren't so often (official ROMs are still on 7.0 and most probably August Patch lol)
- Battery has been a little bit worsen since Nougat update but I gotten rid of the issue by installing custom kernels and great ROMs you could find here in XDA.
- Device quality is TOP-NOTCH
- Sound quality is STILL ON OF THE BEST TODAY (you could use any fancy or higher impedance headphones on this boy and it sounds LEGIT)
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I had the revolutionary HTC one M7, I had the M9 and got the HTC 10 on launch day. I am on T-Mobile but I unlocked the SIM and wrote SuperCID and switched to the unlocked developer version. I am using Magisk systemless root with a bunch of modules and the phone just works... and the music quality is just top notch!
i still love mine--HTC 10
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Add to that a removable battery door, so that the battery may be removed completely. I hate this "glue the phone together" style of manufacturing.
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One thing in its defense of gluing, the last THREE Samsung phones I've had where the battery is removable has had battery connection issues. As in, I tap my phone wrong and it restarts.
I also think the HTC 10 has had battery issues where it reports incorrectly.
Hi, I am hoping some of you can help me
I am currently using the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge in the UK. I have had this for 2 years and generally I am very happy with it. Right now the battery life does suffer a little, and on long days I am preserving its use for it to last me as much as can be, but generally I am very satisfied with it.
Right now through Black Friday there are some very nice S9 deals. I can get it for zero upfront, £38 a month on a 24 month contract with 25GB of Data. As it gets closer to Black Friday, I may even be able to get it cheaper so it is very appealing. Question is.. should I?? Right now I am paying £20 for SIM only so this will be a little jump in price.
I LOVE the look of the S9. I also love the look of the S8 actually but the idea of a better speaker in the S9 really draws me in plus the fact that suprisingly, the S9 have better deals at the moment. I know the S10 is right round the corner, but unless this comes with significant improvements I dont think I will be tempted by what will be at least to begin with big prices.
There is just one nagging concern that is stopping me from purchasing at the moment - the battery. What do people advise? How are people getting on with the S9 with this that have ideally upgraded from the S7 edge which people generally praised for its battery? I plan on using my devices for a minimum of 3 years. Is the S9 good for this? Or would you advise me waiting to see what the S10 has in stock? Even though it is unlikely I will want to pay anything more than £45 a month (tops!) for my contract?
Some help and advise really would be massively appreciated!
S9 battery is a weak point. I use the phone constantly on battery saver mode. This way i get an extra hour to around 4.30SOT. if you are a heavy user, this aint it. Exynos battery optimization is very poor. But i would suggest you to go for Note 9 or even a S9+ for the extra camera and battery.
Also, you can't enjoy full resolution and you have to downgrade and use at FHD+ for battery.
Ram management takes a hit with massive battery saving tricks you are forced to do. The phone also heats up a lot. Charging times are not that great. Camera quality deteriorated over months.
With this phone you have to extra careful with drops. It costs me 300USD for a small crack on screen.
The positives are the usual. Speakers are great. Screen is awesome. Samsung pay is life saving. Wireless charging. IP68. Headphone jack! SD card!
I would say Note 9 or S9+
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S9 battery is a weak point. I use the phone constantly on battery saver mode. This way i get an extra hour to around 4.30SOT. if you are a heavy user, this aint it. Exynos battery optimization is very poor. But i would suggest you to go for Note 9 or even a S9+ for the extra camera and battery.
Also, you can't enjoy full resolution and you have to downgrade and use at FHD+ for battery.
Ram management takes a hit with massive battery saving tricks you are forced to do. The phone also heats up a lot. Charging times are not that great. Camera quality deteriorated over months.
With this phone you have to extra careful with drops. It costs me 300USD for a small crack on screen.
The positives are the usual. Speakers are great. Screen is awesome. Samsung pay is life saving. Wireless charging. IP68. Headphone jack! SD card!
I would say Note 9 or S9+
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Hmm, ok.. I really wish that was a more positive response regarding the battery But I really appreciate your honest and in depth review!
For £38 a month would you not go for this then? put up against the S7 edge would you not say it is a worthwhile upgrade?
I will start looking at the S9 + and the Note9 although I have to say I am not so keen on the prices they offer....lets see what black Friday brings!
shaunwwfc said:
Hmm, ok.. I really wish that was a more positive response regarding the battery But I really appreciate your honest and in depth review!
For £38 a month would you not go for this then? put up against the S7 edge would you not say it is a worthwhile upgrade?
I will start looking at the S9 + and the Note9 although I have to say I am not so keen on the prices they offer....lets see what black Friday brings!
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Only a few users have terrible battery life like that, it's not the greatest but with everything on maximum performance, all radios enabled (not BT), auto brightness around 50% most of the time, I can easily get 5 hours SoT with normal usage, when I got the phone I was averaging 6-7 hours SoT, but obviously the more apps you install...
Talking about the S9 flat here, the S9 plus has a bigger battery same as your 7 Edge did
I upgraded from the S7 flat and it was a very nice upgrade, I would not switch back, faster, a lot nicer design, (Get a case though, the bezels are very small and using the camera without accidentally touching the screen is difficult without a case), camera is very nice indeed, I wouldn't say it was a huge step up from the S7 especially with RAW / Pro mode, but with the new f1.5 low light ability it is definitely a step up in certain scenarios
Personally I would say yes it is still a worthwhile upgrade from the S7/Edge
Hey there!
I moved from the s6 to the s9 after my s6 died. Honestly, I didn't feel a big upgrade. If my s6 was working I would probably return the s9. Your s7 edge is a very nice phone. I'd say if money isnt a big issue, wait for the s10.
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Only a few users have terrible battery life like that, it's not the greatest but with everything on maximum performance, all radios enabled (not BT), auto brightness around 50% most of the time, I can easily get 5 hours SoT with normal usage, when I got the phone I was averaging 6-7 hours SoT, but obviously the more apps you install...
Talking about the S9 flat here, the S9 plus has a bigger battery same as your 7 Edge did
I upgraded from the S7 flat and it was a very nice upgrade, I would not switch back, faster, a lot nicer design, (Get a case though, the bezels are very small and using the camera without accidentally touching the screen is difficult without a case), camera is very nice indeed, I wouldn't say it was a huge step up from the S7 especially with RAW / Pro mode, but with the new f1.5 low light ability it is definitely a step up in certain scenarios
Personally I would say yes it is still a worthwhile upgrade from the S7/Edge
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Thanks for your thoughts. I am going to closely monitor the price for the next fortnight. With really good feedback I think I would go for it right now. Having read multiple reviews now I am leaning towards seeing what the s10 can offer, especially battery wise.
ssalehh said:
Hey there!
I moved from the s6 to the s9 after my s6 died. Honestly, I didn't feel a big upgrade. If my s6 was working I would probably return the s9. Your s7 edge is a very nice phone. I'd say if money isnt a big issue, wait for the s10.
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Thanks for your reply! I am starting to think that!
I second waiting to see how the S10 plays out since you are planning on keeping your new phone for the long haul. I actually just purchased a used S9 and am very happy with it (haven't had it long enough to comment on battery life). If you can afford the up front cost, the used market for mint/very good handsets is very competitive right now. However, the launch/trade-in deals for the S10 should put you in the ballpark of the S9 deals you are seeing now.
Edit: Plus, S9/S9+ deals should be great after S10 launches.
I've been the Galaxy as a daily driver since the S8 came out, and when the 9 was released I upgraded.
The S8 size was pretty decent, but when I went to the S9, it was a tad bigger and noticeably heavier. Honestly I like smaller phones. The S9+/Note phones are just too big for me.
Pros: Great screen, great camera, I get decently fast charging time.
Cons:
-Battery life is "fair". For work I use my phone a lot to research on ebay and take pictures. It just doesn't seem enough. I've tried some optimizations such as FHD+, black background, black theme, battery saver programs, no major social media apps running ( usually i used the web based) and I am a bit disappointed. If I use my phone a fair amount in the morning I feel like I will be low later on and will need to charge. Honestly that seems to be one of my bigger drawbacks. If I could get a full day of use from early in the morning to the evening no problem, I'd be good.
- Samsung lag. Oh yes it's here. When going from ebay app to camera, to stock sms app, youtube, I get hiccups more than I'd like to see. I have animations to .5x to make things feel snappier, but I just wish the optimization was better. I won't switch to an iphone, but man after playing with an iphone and seeing how fluid it is, I am a bit envious. I won't switch to Apple, that's just me. Sometimes the auto-rotate doesn't seem to respond as smooth as iPhone.
- The edge screen. Meh. Was cool at first, but it makes glass protectors difficult. You have to pretty much go with Whitestone dome glass, and it's expensive. And then that breaks and you need another $35. I am exploring other options and recently found a glass protector that uses loca glue and UV application just like the whitestone for $18 on Amazon. It has arrived, just haven't put it on yet. I can live without the edge screen.
Today I tested out the Google Pixel 3 at Best Buy. Surprisingly it was only a tad smaller than the S9, but it did weigh less. But maybe that small difference in size does help better with one handed use. Pixel 3 is on Android P, and I played around with it and it was very fluid like the iPhone. I have a promo with T-Mobile on a payment plan for my S9, but if i could just jump right over to the Pixel 3 I would.
I'm hoping Android P will make things better, more optimized and better battery life. Personally, if you have to get a phone now, I like the Pixel 3. Since I'm stuck in a promo paying for this S9, I will most likely upgrade to the S10 when it comes out.
Jeez, I can't stand reading "samsung lag". Now let's be honest and call it "Android lag", because out of 100 different Android phones just Pixels and OnePlus do not show *any* type of stuttering *ever*.
shaunwwfc said:
For £38 a month would you not go for this then? put up against the S7 edge would you not say it is a worthwhile upgrade?
I will start looking at the S9 + and the Note9 although I have to say I am not so keen on the prices they offer....lets see what black Friday brings!
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If you like the phone bro get it. I own S9, Nokia 7.1, Essential Phone, OnePlus 6, & Pixel 2. All are more or less the same on battery life. Use adaptive brightness & close apps you're not using. Other than that leave Android to do it's job at RAM management, etc. I heavily use my S9 because it's my newest toy and I consistently get 6+ hours of SOT. I don't play games on my phone or do prolonged video streaming.
Hope that helps
Upgraded from the S7 to the S9 for around 400€. It is not worth the money imho. The design is great, no question, the fingerprint sensor is way faster - but other than that there is not much to gain here. The camera is marginally better but not worth the money and the battery life is quite disappointing. I would wait for the S10 or other phones next year.
sot from s9+?
shaunwwfc said:
Hi, I am hoping some of you can help me
I am currently using the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge in the UK. I have had this for 2 years and generally I am very happy with it. Right now the battery life does suffer a little, and on long days I am preserving its use for it to last me as much as can be, but generally I am very satisfied with it.
Right now through Black Friday there are some very nice S9 deals. I can get it for zero upfront, £38 a month on a 24 month contract with 25GB of Data. As it gets closer to Black Friday, I may even be able to get it cheaper so it is very appealing. Question is.. should I?? Right now I am paying £20 for SIM only so this will be a little jump in price.
I LOVE the look of the S9. I also love the look of the S8 actually but the idea of a better speaker in the S9 really draws me in plus the fact that suprisingly, the S9 have better deals at the moment. I know the S10 is right round the corner, but unless this comes with significant improvements I dont think I will be tempted by what will be at least to begin with big prices.
There is just one nagging concern that is stopping me from purchasing at the moment - the battery. What do people advise? How are people getting on with the S9 with this that have ideally upgraded from the S7 edge which people generally praised for its battery? I plan on using my devices for a minimum of 3 years. Is the S9 good for this? Or would you advise me waiting to see what the S10 has in stock? Even though it is unlikely I will want to pay anything more than £45 a month (tops!) for my contract?
Some help and advise really would be massively appreciated!
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Its a good phone, I have the Exynnos variant and battery life sucks but otherwise its great, speakers are great on it, much better than my works iPhone 8, the screen is great also, I don't normally like Samsung but I really like this, plus it has a headphone jack.
But the battery life is the major downside, I would certainly get a good battery bank.
Finally if I was to choose now I would likely get a Pixel 3 XL, 3 years of updates sounds amazing to me.
If you do more than just the basics, get the Plus or Note. I got the straight S9 because it was on offer (30GB on EE no upfront cost £32/month) and although it was a steal it's a pain in the arse. I have the smartwatch and a Pokeball (So that's 2 bluetooth devices it's trying to keep up with) and play Pokemon Go with messaging apps and an overlay, and it's doing all this kind of stuff at once, 4GB is nowhere near enough RAM on Android. iOS could manage it easily, but Android is not iOS...
The result is it lags like crazy. Usually just as I want to do something quickly like take a photo and it sits and chugs for a minute (presumably out of memory and using storage as swap space) instead. Or the fingerprint reader will take like 5 seconds to register and unlock. I regret skimping, and wish I'd just splashed out and waited for the Note.
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
manus31 said:
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
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Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
CyberOvca said:
Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
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Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
manus31 said:
Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
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Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
vistaabalaji said:
Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
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Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
manus31 said:
Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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Yes I believe this is true,the 675 is a great chip.I used a device with 660 and there was no problems whatsoever, Processors these days are typically great above the 660,
Still on the fence about the a70 though,have been looking at the reviews,many point out issues with the cameras,front and back
Would need these to be great if I'm gonna swap my 6T which has been performing a lot better with Gcam
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
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You're making the right decision I've had a 6T and A70 and the 6T has a much better camera specially in low light which is the real weak point of the A70. Megapixels are just numbers and doesn't say anything about camera quality. The camera and fingerprint sensor are the two weakest points of this phone. I didn't like the fingerprint reader even in the 6T as I found it annoying but this one is even worse and I rely on face unlock and only use fingerprints for authorization in banking apps etc. However screen is better and battery life is much better.
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After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Yea,seems to be a bit of a disappointment overall for this phone,glad I didn't go for it,shame because on paper it seems ideal
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
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I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
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Hi,
Nice statement, but comparing a A70 and a mi9 SE is kind of pointless.
I don't think you can compare a 5.9" display phone with a 6.7" display phone.
Even if the rest is nearly identical.
Don't get me wrong.
I am a great Xiaomi fan.
If Xiaomi would have released a smartphone ABOVE 6.5" AND with a decent SoC, I would have gone for that immediatly.
But the only "phablet" in the Xiaomi range of products is the mi Max 3 (that I currently have) and that one does have a SD 636 and it has really horrible latency when you touch the display.
Regards.
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Are you sure you have enabled fast charging in settings? Battery / Settings / Fast Charging With Cable.
Just a thought, mine charges from 10% to 100 % in about an hour and a half.
Do remember that 25w charging is only enabled when the screen is off or the AOD is activated. Whenever the screen is on, even on the lockscreen, it'll be limited to 6w.
No brainer question, right? Well, sort of. I'm looking for a decent phone for my wife and considering the market option in SEA, I'm really having a hard time which one to get. Most people would straight away said OP7T got SD855+ and 90Hz display and you're stupid not to get it. So, I'm trying to out-weight one with another and here is my reason-to-have for each phone. Please add in your reasons as well. In Singapore market the prices for both phones are exactly the same at S$899.
OP7T
Pros:
SD855+ for performance
90Hz fluid AMOLED screen
better real-life camera performance (according to the reviews I've watched)
Water-resistant (But no official IP rating)
Android 10 OOTB
OxygenOS (I preferred it more to the ColorOS)
Regular software updates (and quite fast to get new OS as well)
Optical SuperMacro mode.
Cons:
that nipple notch on top of the screen.
12 months installment plan only. (gonna cost me about S$75 a month)
Poor battery life (thanks to the SD855+ and 90Hz display)
ugly camera bump. (do they really have to do that?)
no ultra-wide lens.
no headphone jack. (bummer)
no FM Radio (not a big deal for my wife though)
Oppo Reno2
Pros:
absolute full-screen display
flush camera setup design
that shark-fin pop-up selfie cam
better battery life (thanks to SD730G and 60Hz display)
24 months installment plan (about $33 per month)
stunning overall body design and colors.
ultra-wide lens + 3x telephoto lens
better on-paper camera specs
Cons:
no water resistant (especially when the shark-fin is popped up)
weaker Chip
No 90Hz display
Android 9
ColorOS
OnePlus 7t, it doesn't have poor battery life either
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No brainer question, right? Well, sort of. I'm looking for a decent phone for my wife and considering the market option in SEA, I'm really having a hard time which one to get. Most people would straight away said OP7T got SD855+ and 90Hz display and you're stupid not to get it. So, I'm trying to out-weight one with another and here is my reason-to-have for each phone. Please add in your reasons as well. In Singapore market the prices for both phones are exactly the same at S$899.
OP7T
Pros:
SD855+ for performance
90Hz fluid AMOLED screen
better real-life camera performance (according to the reviews I've watched)
Water-resistant (But no official IP rating)
Android 10 OOTB
OxygenOS (I preferred it more to the ColorOS)
Regular software updates (and quite fast to get new OS as well)
Optical SuperMacro mode.
Cons:
that nipple notch on top of the screen.
12 months installment plan only. (gonna cost me about S$75 a month)
Poor battery life (thanks to the SD855+ and 90Hz display)
ugly camera bump. (do they really have to do that?)
no ultra-wide lens.
no headphone jack. (bummer)
no FM Radio (not a big deal for my wife though)
Oppo Reno2
Pros:
absolute full-screen display
flush camera setup design
that shark-fin pop-up selfie cam
better battery life (thanks to SD730G and 60Hz display)
24 months installment plan (about $33 per month)
stunning overall body design and colors.
ultra-wide lens + 3x telephoto lens
better on-paper camera specs
Cons:
no water resistant (especially when the shark-fin is popped up)
weaker Chip
No 90Hz display
Android 9
ColorOS
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The OnePlus 7t does NOT have poor battery life. IDK where you heard that from. The other phone you speak of has an interior processor and I'm sure it will not get updates as fast as a OnePlus phone.
Also the tear drop notch is actually good looking IMO.
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OuncE718 said:
The OnePlus 7t does NOT have poor battery life. IDK where you heard that from. The other phone you speak of has an interior processor and I'm sure it will not get updates as fast as a OnePlus phone.
Also the tear drop notch is actually good looking IMO.
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Multiple reviews on YouTube and other tech review websites reported OP7T only got about 6 Hr SOT on light usage (just browsing Facebook, YouTube etc, ) and 4.5~5 hr SOT involving some gaming. Most of them blaming the SD855+ and 90Hz display is the main cause. Yes, the Reno2 got SD730G that you might say inferior, but it yield longer battery life than the 855+.
As a P20 Pro user myself, the notch looks better than my P20 Pro or any other iPhones, but the real full-screen display is really showing off, and that popping-up shark-fin is the wow factor. .
Have to agree on the updates though. OnePlus is the best in pushing down newest updates. Even the sister brand (Oppo) can't match it.
Don't worry about battery life... 7T for the win!
battery life isn't poor. Notch actually looks nice, too small to be an annoyance. If you make any sense you'd put a case on it anyway, so camera hump isnt a factor at least for me.
And nothing beats the OxygenOS, if you compare it to an Oppo.....well
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Multiple reviews on YouTube and other tech review websites reported OP7T only got about 6 Hr SOT on light usage (just browsing Facebook, YouTube etc, ) and 4.5~5 hr SOT involving some gaming. Most of them blaming the SD855+ and 90Hz display is the main cause. Yes, the Reno2 got SD730G that you might say inferior, but it yield longer battery life than the 855+.
As a P20 Pro user myself, the notch looks better than my P20 Pro or any other iPhones, but the real full-screen display is really showing off, and that popping-up shark-fin is the wow factor. .
Have to agree on the updates though. OnePlus is the best in pushing down newest updates. Even the sister brand (Oppo) can't match it.
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You will not be disappointed with battery life. Check the review section on XDA. There's one that speaks about battery life. Also the 30 watt charger that's included in the box will blow you away with how fast the phone charges.
I've owned/played with pretty much every flagship phone you can think of and I'd say this is hands down one of the best out right now. This IMO should of been the Pixel 4 XL.
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Of course the big main screen is the #1 positive.
If anything is going to break this deal its
#1 the small cover screen first and foremost.
#2 it's the cameras but I've been surprisingly OK with the ZF3 shots lately.
How Bout you?
i shifted to all apple last year and im so in love with my iphone 12 pro max, i love the eco system
but i still want to buy Samsung as i love the extra customization and its like tab and phone
my main concerns
are there any cases from rhinoshield or any well known brands? my phone falls to much from my hands
my last s20 ultra have so much focus issues that never wanted to go back to samsung, maybe i got a defective unit 12 pro max cam is awesome
the inside screen quality, i watched a durability test and the nails still damage the inner screen
I went the opposite way. I just returned my z-fold 3 because of the battery life and the cameras. The s-pen flip case was absolutely horrid. I just feel for a $1,900 phone, it was underwhelming. I'm hoping on the z-fold 4, they put the s-pen solo in the phone. It just wasn't the note replacement I hoped it would be. I ordered an s21 ultra 512 GB but I won't be here till the end of the month so I'm looking forward to that now.
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
I went from S21 Ultra to Fold 3, I certainly won't be going back to to a candy bar phone again. The cameras do a good enough job for me, the S21 camera array would have been nice, but I do wonder how much it would bump the price up.
I don't mind the outside screen either, certainly easier to type 1 handed, where the S21 U was quite wide to use like that.
I found this video the other day, regarding the cameras
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
bs3pro said:
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Maybe in your opinion but I have my own. The cameras are basically up to par with my Note 20 5G. Maybe you are willing to sacrifice to have a folding screen but I am not. Cellular reception also was worse and I have a feeling that is what was killing the battery. By all means enjoy your F3 and I'll enjoy my S21. Like I said, I am looking forward to the Fold 4.
I love my fold3. The battery life isn't great, but try turning off your 5G. That should help out quite a bit. Plus you won't be able to tell the difference with the speeds unless you're using ultra wideband.
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
S21U to ZF3. I've gotten settled into the Fold 3 after a few days - I had to swap out my email app of choice (Nine) for Outlook to help with the battery (Nine has always been a bit of a hog, but it tips the scales to "not a full day" whereas Outlook plays nicer). I'm now getting a full business day (12hrs) but not much more.
I've got a little stand and BT keyboard taking its place as an iPad Mini Pro as welll...
I will miss the S21U cameras (I still have it...not giving it up so quickly!) so it's def form vs. function.
My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Well, didn't usually carry the tablet with me as much as use it around the house. That said, yes. Not only is the tablet a second battery, it's a larger second battery. I expected higher usage, I just didn't expect as much as I should have. I do have the ability to bring a battery if needed, I just don't need to in most cases.
Totally get it. It's just helpful to think about the loss of the large 2nd battery
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S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I took the ZF3 and S21U out together today and did camera tests on my own and was amazed how well the ZF3 matched the S21U. (cept for zoom and macro)
Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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S21u outside of USA and SK has the "inferior" Exynos chip which has different performance and heat management (and also different ISP for processing images taken with cameras)
It's a difficult question ... Upgrade from S21u to F3?
Personally I'd say if you want to try foldable phones the F3 is the one to go for
If camera is most important to you stick with the S21U
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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As a phone enthusiast (read addict), I have owned in the last 12 months.... Note 20 Ultra, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Xiaomi Mi 11 5g, S21 ultra and now the Z Fold3.
The Fold 3 is 1000s times more advanced and exciting to use than any of the other devices mentioned above... however the Z range cameras are stuck at 12mp from 2019 S10 era.
I agree pictures taken with a Z Fold3 are good or even excellent in most cases....
however, if you claim 2.0 optical zoom in F3 is technically as good as 10x optical zoom in S21U , or thar 108MP with Laser autofocus on S21u is not "better" than basic 12mp main lens on the Z Fold, you are mistaken my friend
(and lets not even begin to discuss the 4 FOUR! megapixel under-screen-camera lol )
To clarify .... I ABSOLUTELTY LOVE my Z Fold3!
I just think Samsung has missed the opportunity to release the ULTIMATE "UNBEATABLE" smartphone by not including 2021 spec camera module from the S21 Ultra. (The Note range always matched or exceeded the cameras in the S range from 6 months previous so why not do the same with the Z range?).