Long Term Support question - LineageOS Questions & Answers

I am pretty cheap, but when I buy something, It's among the best in its class. I had a Note 2 that I was plenty happy with, until it died. I didn't know how to repair phones and replace main boards, so I had to buy a new phone. I got an S5 in 2014. Really awesome phone, and even today, it's pretty damn good. However, I have wanted a new Note for a while, and I really like what the Note 10 is probably going to be. So yeah, I'll pull the trigger on the most loaded 5g capability Note 10 Samsung will sell in the USA. But I will work hard to make it the last pbone I buy for a very very long time. Hardware repairs will be east since I'll buy "parts only" phones to repair mine once it's off-warranty. So my next phone after the note 10 will be the Galaxy Fold 17, as in a folding cellphone that flips out to daylight readable 17" display. Until then, I can't think of a good reason to upgrade, considering the cost of a new high-end phone these days. Frankly, phones today are more powerful than I can ever imagine using on such a small display. The software is gonna be the issue. So my plan is to let Lineage developers build awesome ROMs for the Note 10 and when it looks like support is ending there, I'll pick up the torch. But before then, I gotta learn how to build Lineage for it, and especially how to update its security profiles. I'm sure that eventually there will be a version of Android that won't run satisfactorily on the Note 10, and that is when I'll need to be able to support my own phone to keep it secure.
I have modified code on Linux apps, and compiled my own kernels in the past, so I know the basics, but anything Android specific is lacking.
So, what do I need to learn and where do I start to learn how to support my note 10 when all the other reasonable users have moved on and the Note 10 is all but forgotten?
Thanks
Keith

WisdomWarlord said:
I am pretty cheap, but when I buy something, It's among the best in its class............
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I don't have any of the Galaxy Note devices myself but, your best bet is to take a look at the following areas of the forum that's specific to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014
Good Luck!
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You misunderstood me. I'm talking about the upcoming Note 10 phone.

WisdomWarlord said:
You misunderstood me. I'm talking about the upcoming Note 10 phone.
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I don't build or maintain ROMs myself. But i flash many different devices. What i learned: buy a second device of the exactly same type. Used S5 are really cheap nowadays. You can even get one with a broken screen. Start building wit the official sources and then fork them and try some modifications.

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Note 2 clone info...

I found this phone on this website...
http://www.chinaecarts.com/samsung-...-core-android-41-ram-2gb-rom-16gb-p-2802.html
But I'm not sure if it'll be what I'm expecting. I want a note 2 but don't really wanna pay a whole lot for since I'm gonna buy out right but at the same time I want one with the same specs as the original and be able to use cases that the original note 2 uses. I also want to customize the phone with custom roms as well. Does anyone know if this can be done with this clone?
Thanks!
And if there's any more info someone can share with me or an even better clone out there plz let me know...
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Why would you expect support from a company that admittedly sells counterfeit products? And why would you support them?
My opinion, stay away, far away from it.
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So basically you want to have the same specs, dev support and the whole package, with a cheapo clone? Read that again and see if that makes any sense at all.
If there is such a thing, why would we all pay 600$ and buy the original at all?
Well first off its just a question on whether or not the phone could do it. Secondly, I would pay the $600 when I have the money...I'm just looking for more inexpensive options. With today's crappy economy you can't blame anyone for looking for alternative options in things they want.
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jrodbrown58 said:
Well first off its just a question on whether or not the phone could do it. Secondly, I would pay the $600 when I have the money...I'm just looking for more inexpensive options. With today's crappy economy you can't blame anyone for looking for alternative options in things they want.
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I live in a 3rd world country but can still manage to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
Don't have money? Then save and get money.
Stay away from that idea you have now.
jrodbrown58 said:
Well first off its just a question on whether or not the phone could do it. Secondly, I would pay the $600 when I have the money...I'm just looking for more inexpensive options. With today's crappy economy you can't blame anyone for looking for alternative options in things they want.
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Living in China I bought some of these devices but you have to understand these devices are for LOOK. They LOOK like the original(if you're not to close lol) but the hardware is very different. They often perform surprisingly well but their camera are always crap.
Of course since the hardware is very different you can't come on the Note II forum to get help because your phone is NOT a Note II, it only looks like one.
Finally buying a clone is not an alternative of what you want. If you want a Note II, an alternative would be to buy a second hand, then you get what you want at a cheaper price. But buying a clone is like wanting a Ferrari but buying Go-Kart.
There is nothing wrong with having a clone, but the fact that you are expecting "almost" genuine product support is more than exaggerated don't you think?
Before we extend this thread with negative answers ppl will continue to give you, you should realize that a clone runs perhaps a very different type of hardware meaning the custom roms will never ever support. You could try them of course, but do not be surprised if your screen will never come back on, camera not working, mic, touchscreen failure etc.
DITTO with everyone here! I would just delay your purchase until you have money for your, "Want" as you stated.
To be honest, owning a Note II is a personal choice, and there are 25+ other phones that have similar functions that I would purchase before I got ANY clone. Keep in mind, support? Drivers? apps? insurance? warranty?
I agree with majority. (And if you wait on release of Note III, Note II will come down in price)
NOTE: I (or we) and not trying to talk negatively about you, just member love! There are therads, plenty of them, where members got ripped off on aftermarket clones (SanDisk Chips are big rip off from 2nd and 3rd party vendors. I have been following that big here as Note II can handle 64GB as I have).
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Living in China I bought some of these devices but you have to understand these devices are for LOOK. They LOOK like the original(if you're not to close lol) but the hardware is very different. They often perform surprisingly well but their camera are always crap.
Of course since the hardware is very different you can't come on the Note II forum to get help because your phone is NOT a Note II, it only looks like one.
Finally buying a clone is not an alternative of what you want. If you want a Note II, an alternative would be to buy a second hand, then you get what you want at a cheaper price. But buying a clone is like wanting a Ferrari but buying Go-Kart.
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Thank you, that's all I needed to know.
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Jrodbrown,
Your profile states your hometown as I United States? You can get unlocked amazon note II for I $499.00?
You stated money and economy, your rocking galaxy skyrocket now, thats a good phone! Keep it until you save?
Lastly, I see your new here? Make friends! I disagree with comment about not asking non-note II questions here, but I have met thru personal messages 50+ people here that will answer any question I have at almost any hour! He**, I still answer questions on my old Tilt, Fuze, and Evo!
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Which would be the best buy among these?

I have a note 2 and I'm more than happy with it. My friend wants to buy a new phone. We have narrowed it down to : lg g2 note 3 s5 and nexus 5 with leaning more towards s5 since my friend is not very happy about the size and weight of note 3.
we checked all the things including battery, availability of roms, overall performance and still can't decide. it has to work for at least 2 to 3 years.
which one would you people suggest..
also, how much should we care about lte before buying a phone..esp in india
thanks.. please suggest any other phone if you think is worthy
Spock66 said:
I have a note 2 and I'm more than happy with it. My friend wants to buy a new phone. We have narrowed it down to : lg g2 note 3 s5 and nexus 5 with leaning more towards s5 since my friend is not very happy about the size and weight of note 3.
we checked all the things including battery, availability of roms, overall performance and still can't decide. it has to work for at least 2 to 3 years.
which one would you people suggest..
also, how much should we care about lte before buying a phone..esp in india
thanks.. please suggest any other phone if you think is worthy
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There is always a possibility that anyone can get bored with any phone. When this happens, Samsung phones are forcing you to make a choice; either live with it or lose your warranty by flaging KNOX (or buy a new phone but that's not an option all the time). If we consider Samsung was the most open company in the Android world in the beginning, providing open bootloader with every phone and encouring people to install anything now it turned into a company that does NOT share any usefull info with developers and enabling the highest security on the mobile world even for a basic rooting process.. So basicly they are mocking with people by saying "we still keep the bootloaders open, you can install anything; ıf you CAN" as they get richer...
In my opinion that's scary. Watching what Samsung turned into in time isn't nice. Besides, their way of NOT giving updates to their old phones are making more poeple misarable. So, it's always a big risk of hoping a Samsung phone to be up to date.
On the other hand, if your friend goes with G2 or Nexus 5, then can say "What the hell" if the company decides not to give updates after a while. Actually, we all know Nexus 5 will be on the stage for at least another more year so no problem.. I don't think anyone would hope any less for G2 either..
Long story short, eliminate Samsung phones. They come with many features inside but even better alternatives are already out there for everyone to install any Android device.

[Q] About to upgrade Note 8; seeking advice / opinions from owners please :)

Hey everyone, I'm right on the verge of upgrading my current Galaxy Note 8 (SGH P5110 - wifi variant) to this device (the T-mobile lte variant), so I've been frantically searching this forum to make sure it was a reasonable upgrade and what the deal with the Tmo variant was, so I just wanted to clarify a few things I've learned so far, and just ask for opinions from xda members who own this device.
This "opportunity" came about rather unexpectedly, but in addition to the hardware upgrade, purchasing this tablet would have several additional significant benefits, to the point where cost is barely an issue (it will end up costing me next to nothing, if I don't actually make a little money on the deal). It's for this reason that if I were to go for an upgrade right now, it would have to be this device and it would have to be from T-mobile. The whole situation is kind of complex and super ridiculous, and even my hardest attempt to explain it briefly was getting out of hand... I'll edit this post and add it on tomorrow probably and those who don't care can easily skip it (probably a recommendation that also applies to "satisfied" AT&T customers, but then again, it's one of those "Yeah, I know. They actually pull that sort of thing regularly," so perhaps a PSA )
Anyway, to be honest, this tablet wouldn't really be on the "consideration" list if I was just looking for a new tablet... I'd at least wait to find out about the Nexus 9 if that were the case. However, upgrading my phone at some point is a much higher priority vs. tablet, despite the fact that it is pretty near to the "time" for one... I've been happy with the Note 8, and fortunately there were some very talented developers who worked on it, but not unlike your tablet, it was never really promoted by T-Mobile and never had a huge user-base. So this is pretty much my opportunity for a tablet upgrade, where I not to do it, I really can't say when I'd be able to retire the Note 8 (similar to internals of S3 despite being released around the time of the S4), however, the Note 10 does seem like it would be an extremely solid upgrade from the Note 8 so I just want to ask a few questions just to make sure I wouldn't really regret it on any level.
Ok, so the tablet sold by T-Mobile has the model number P607t, but it's really just a carrier branded P605 and compatible with the same ROMS as that device? If that's not the case / just to make sure: you can relatively easily gain full root (i.e. custom ROM, kernel, recovery)? Last, are there problems / issues / differences (aside from chipset) that make it inferior to the P605 or P600?
That's really all I just want to be sure of before pulling the trigger. Basic stuff, I know, but this was totally unexpected and don't have the luxury of time to do as much research as I'd like prior to deciding, so if anyone would be kind enough to address my impressions above, I'd be beyond grateful :good: Also any thoughts on the device sold by Tmo, or the upgrade from the P5110 to what looks to be a very nice device (despite how quickly Samsung stole the "super premium" label off of it) would be most welcome as well.
Hopefully I'm not mistaken regarding the info I've gleaned, and will soon have a new toy in hand. If that works out, I'll undoubtedly be spending much more time on this corner of XDA. Thanks much in advance
Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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Wait, the T-Mobile version works with towelroot without tripping KNOX?
I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.
You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.
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I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.
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Not a bad situation to be in Thanks for the confirmation / encouragement. I'd definitely agree that 10.5 inchers are preferable, particularly for a Note 3 owner, unless the 8" in question is easily root/ROMable and 10.1, despite being a very significant upgrade across the board (will go from looking at an 8" 1600X1200(!) screen to this absolute beauty) it's ridiculously locked down, bootloader etc, and basically you need to run it straight stock, unable to even remove worthless pre-installed malware.... Were that the case, despite the fact that financially, etc. it really doesn't make sense to not do it, I'd still rather stick with my customized Note 8. The unbreakable rule is: if I'm prevented from viewing every file on a device that I own (i.e. root directory obviously), well, that would never happen because no matter how tempting otherwise, I wouldn't under any circumstances get that device. I think that framing the issue of locked bootloader, etc. and forcing users to jump through hoops to attain that level of access is a good way to clarify just how flat-out silly the issue is at its core when explaining to, ya know, people (i.e. those weirdos that don't even have one Linux partiton ) why that's an issue that they 'should care' about.
So... bit of a tirade on a tangent there but that's at the front of my mind when purchasing hardware, so glad to hear that there won't be any unpleasant surprises when picking up a new device. So really appreciate the encouragement to go ahead with it as well as confirmation of my expectation that it'll be a fantastic upgrade!
Very excited to get my new tablet... maybe today! Going to start downloading files to flash in prep I've been scouring the internet for an ideal case (something slim but protective with an open from, ideally a tempered glass screen cover built in) but have noticed that options are relatively slim... Was considering just going with an Otterbox Defender, but I really don't want to add that width much with to the beautifully slim bezel. No bout I'll find something I like though. Looking forward to learning about and discussing my new hardware with you all!
Geordie Affy said:
You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.
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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:
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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:
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Ah yeah you have Note 8 lol so really you have been set to the perfect standard to buy the Note 10.1 in terms of updates haha.
I couldn't find much info whether there is no KNOX tripping root for the P607. That's the only thing holding me back.
I had the Wi-Fi version and I really, really like it. Unfortunately, I had returned it because there was no root that won't trip Knox and I need root to disable the bloatware that is killing the battery and slowing down the tablet. There are a few thread I posted where I show screenshot of the battery life when the tablet is idle.
But you may not care about root, so go forth and get this tablet![emoji12]

OFFICIAL STATEMENT: Samsung will ask all global partners to stop sales and exchanges

Official Statement:
"We are working with relevant regulatory bodies to investigate the recently reported cases involving the Galaxy Note7. Because consumers’ safety remains our top priority, Samsung will ask all carrier and retail partners globally to stop sales and exchanges of the Galaxy Note7 while the investigation is taking place.
We remain committed to working diligently with appropriate regulatory authorities to take all necessary steps to resolve the situation. Consumers with either an original Galaxy Note7 or replacement Galaxy Note7 device should power down and stop using the device and take advantage of the remedies available."
Source: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
What are you Note 7 holders gonna do next?! "Don't forget to answer the poll! "
A second recall is on the way: http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ <-------- "Updated on Oct. 10 2016"
And I am still waiting my preorder!
This did not need another thread.
andyahs said:
This did not need another thread.
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Why not? It's the newest info and there is no real "note 7 burn discussion thread". I'm just curious why the thread is bad actually. It's an important information, that shouldn't be buried in a 20 site thread.
Btw. link to the news: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
I returned mine and my wife's to att for complete refund.. I now have an axon 7 on order and she has the oneplus 3 coming..
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I returned mine and my wife's to att for complete refund.. I now have an axon 7 on order and she has the oneplus 3 coming..
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Yeah ... right when I can get a new phone this problem comes up and now I don't really have something to get... need a good camera and > 5.5"...
- note 7 > flames
- pixel > too expensive (could buy it, but I won't because the price itself is an insolence...)
- LG v20 > no release in europe for now
- moto z > cam not that good
- Sony Z5 > no alternate firmware / root without loosing some cam quality etc.
- One Plus, Axon, HTC ... > bad cams in comparison
Right now I even thing about getting a nexus 6p (like my wife, nightshots are awesome and cheap to get). Still will wait a bit how this disaster plays out for samsung. If they can fix it, the note is not off the table.
Same as my thoughts! You can answer the poll then
Thank you!
Maerad said:
Yeah ... right when I can get a new phone this problem comes up and now I don't really have something to get... need a good camera and > 5.5"...
- note 7 > flames
- pixel > too expensive (could buy it, but I won't because the price itself is an insolence...)
- LG v20 > no release in europe for now
- moto z > cam not that good
- Sony Z5 > no alternate firmware / root without loosing some cam quality etc.
- One Plus, Axon, HTC ... > bad cams in comparison
Right now I even thing about getting a nexus 6p (like my wife, nightshots are awesome and cheap to get). Still will wait a bit how this disaster plays out for samsung. If they can fix it, the note is not off the table.
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Hmmm... This really is a bummer. I got my N930FD through EBay and have no idea what to do lol.
...But there's a poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im going to turn my two in and go to something else... Im really pissed about it cause i love this phone, and nothing else compares....
NIKKOTUASON said:
Hmmm... This really is a bummer. I got my N930FD through EBay and have no idea what to do lol.
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If Samsung ceases total production on it or even if they put out a v3 .. they would have to replace it for you since it's now a pariah. I'd call them and get them to exchange it for an S7 Edge. It IS the very least they could do. I really, really wanted this 2nd battery to be the fix and we could move on. Alas, that sh** ain't happening.
Im going to have to ask for a full refund. No need to try thirst note 7.
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If Samsung ceases total production on it or even if they put out a v3 .. they would have to replace it for you since it's now a pariah. I'd call them and get them to exchange it for an S7 Edge. It IS the very least they could do. I really, really wanted this 2nd battery to be the fix and we could move on. Alas, that sh** ain't happening.
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Ya this truly is a $hit storm. I love this unit as it runs perfect I'm still actually using the original unit but since all these new inconvenience it's getting frusting especially if ever they decide to stop supporting and updates. :crying:
So, will we be able to exchange the S7 Edge loaners for Note 7's once they are deemed safe again?
I know it's a hassle, but I really like this phone. I don't even care about Nougat or future updates other than security updates...
Samsung can stick the 25$ gift card/credit up their a$$. I wasted countless hours in the last 2 months on this phone. Great phone but not worth all this BS.
I suppose I will hold onto it until the v20 hits. Hopefully it's not hard to obtain since many will be jumping the sinking Samsung ship like I am.
I want to keep the Note 7. I don't want any other device. I'll replace it again if needed but I want another Note 7. There is no other device comparable to the Note. Maybe by some miracle we can get a unlocked bootloader edition Note 7 by chance. Just think how awesome custom Roms could be for this device.
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I want to keep the Note 7. I don't want any other device. I'll replace it again if needed but I want another Note 7. There is no other device comparable to the Note. Maybe by some miracle we can get a unlocked bootloader edition Note 7 by chance. Just think how awesome custom Roms could be for this device.
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You would have to wonder how much time and effort Samsung will put into this device with future updates...the community around this device will be small as well, which won't bode well for custom roms.
I was waiting for my wife's carrier to get the Note 7 in stock to get one (they had already discounted it to $0 on a 2 year contract, and her contract was up). I have and love my S7 and it has me spoiled.
If anyone can name me a 5.5in amoled screen or larger phone with awesome camera, sd card slot and good water resistance, I'll bite. I'm not a fan of the big curves of the S7 Edge
Guess I'm on track with having the S7 Edge for 2-3 years, then getting the Note 9 or 10...
Wonder what the tech will be then?
I agree with that, I am not giving up mine, but am worried about the future of updates. I have the ATT one, and they suck on updates anyways. That scares me more than the phone popping.
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I agree with that, I am not giving up mine, but am worried about the future of updates. I have the ATT one, and they suck on updates anyways. That scares me more than the phone popping.
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The way I see it, samsung will not put too much effort into updating it...because they DID say to return it completely or exchange it...as a business if i have sent out such notice, i will not expect buyers to dive at it once again (upon a second recall) if ever released...with that information, i will put my energy elsewhere to bring in profit...rather than a sinking ship.
adding sammy delay in update to that of the carrier...we are looking at nouget in 2 years lol
Over the past 2 years the Note series and S series phones have become very closely related, almost identical besides the s-pen and software. I wouldn't doubt for Samsung to scrap the note line altogether after this and have the S8 and new S8+ with included s-pen. Nightmare from the note goes away and they continue on with their successful S series. They've already had a Note 8 before so they had to change something with the name anyway. Just an idea.
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I think they push a FW update again, disabling the phone if you do not power down yourself.
But yes, I can wait... again....

Death of the Stylus? Note 7 axed.

As many are hearing, the Note 7 production has stopped. Reports of the line being axed have surfaced and trending on major news site, the BBC has this to say:
Samsung said it has stopped making Galaxy Note 7 smartphones due to consumer safety concerns.
The company is expected to permanently end selling the device, a person familiar with the matter said.
Samsung did not comment further.
Assuming the Note 7 is indeed axed, what do you think this means for the Stylus?
My opinion is that Samsung will steer clear of anything Noteesque for quite some time, size aside, something that makes a Note is of course the Stylus, is it likely to die with Samsung? Interested to hear your thoughts...
They will already be too invested in note 8 to kill it as well. They have already gotten patents for components in it, and expected release as early as 3/2017.
Problem is, the Note 4 (only second hand) and 5 (only grey import) also aren't available anymore, so if my Note 3 would die now, I have nothing to replace it with.
I don't agree that they will stay away from the Note platform. That would be handing lots of sales over to other makers, as I'm sure many stick with Samsung for the stylus in a Note sized product. I do hope the next one is a polished, finished product, though.
Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
I have no idea on how many don't use the stylus. Certainly if someone does not use it, it'd be easy to make different choices. But I don't really see the stylus as the issue here. It's the battery.
What to do now? S7E - don't rly like it after touching the NOTE7. Wait for S8 is too long for me. I still use S4 that is dead (at least battery is new) lol. Other brands don't have good camera like N7 or S7E... Not to start talking about accessorys i bought for N7....
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Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
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They used that stylus-statistic to slide the S6Edge+ down our throats and not bring the Note 5 to Europe. The S6E+ tanked and is now being sold with 200+ euro discounts to get rid of excisting stocks.
The Note series is the only phone with stylus. You have nowhere else to go. So switching now is an option, since there are zero new stylus phones on the market at the moment.
I hope they do not kill the stylus.
I love the stylus specially when i am at college.
It allows me to write notes or draw sketches and memes and i am arch student. To me a phone without a stylus looks awkard.. They propably will change name of the note brand by next year or dit h the stylus i hope the later does not happen.
alltaken123 said:
Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
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Still on Note 4. I think that I have used the stylus once. I keep forgetting it's even there. I bought the Note 4 because it is a good, large, solid phone with a big screen and a REMOVABLE BATTERY. That's the reason that I never went to the Note 5 or Note 7. There are two Note 4s in my family that are just under two years old. I've already had to replace the battery in one because of it not holding a charge, boot loops, etc. To me, the Note 7 was the best of the sealed phones and the only one that I would even bother considering.
What? you thought that for years, people bought a Note just because it has a slightly bigger screen than the S series?
The stylus IS the Note. It's the reason why Samsung had 2 Flagship phones instead of 1. Dude, the Stylus is here to stay, period.
mk89pwnz said:
What to do now? S7E - don't rly like it after touching the NOTE7. Wait for S8 is too long for me. I still use S4 that is dead (at least battery is new) lol. Other brands don't have good camera like N7 or S7E... Not to start talking about accessorys i bought for N7....
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IPhone 7 plus smh
Vic35 said:
IPhone 7 plus smh
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Even if ios is fast as **** the fact that I cant even put a damn icon where i want is a deal breaker to me...
I'd move to the iPhone 7 plus but they are backordered until end of November/early December...
DeMi-GoD said:
I'd move to the iPhone 7 plus but they are backordered until end of November/early December...
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
mysmartone said:
I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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Hmm.. I just called yesterday and all the ones she checked were sold out. I wonder how much I'd have to pay for the 256 gb version.
juliend said:
They will already be too invested in note 8 to kill it as well. They have already gotten patents for components in it, and expected release as early as 3/2017.
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Let's hope they learn their lesson and go back to using replaceable batteries like my trusty Note 3 does. Let's face it, it's karma, Samsung.
Andre
alltaken123 said:
Assuming the Note 7 is indeed axed, what do you think this means for the Stylus?
My opinion is that Samsung will steer clear of anything Noteesque for quite some time, size aside, something that makes a Note is of course the Stylus, is it likely to die with Samsung? Interested to hear your thoughts...
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I don't think they'll let it die. Let some time pass, bring it out again and maybe even find a new name for it, that's it.
People forget fast anyway, you can watch that in politics every day...
What do you think would happen if that problem arose with a Galaxy S phone? No galaxies any more?
TL;DR: Samsung is a monstrosity of a company. It's for sure a big inconvenience for them, but it won't break their neck and influence them too much.
Think of what would happen if that same thing happened to LG...
And you can be quite sure that all future Samsung phones will be non-exploding a f
EDIT: Whoa, I am astonished of how many people claim to switch to an iPhone....
Have fun with the limited OS and that cancer of software called iTunes
P.S. iphone 7 + is a brick compared to N7... I hate Samsung for giving up on Note 7...
mysmartone said:
I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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Sure enough they are available... Idk how much they are gonna charge me though. For me to upgrade early to the note 7 they made me spend 200 and send in my s6. They are probably gonna make me pay the tax and put $100 down so it barely increases my monthly bill.. Any advice?
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MisterKanister said:
I don't think they'll let it die. Let some time pass, bring it out again and maybe even find a new name for it, that's it.
People forget fast anyway, you can watch that in politics every day...
What do you think would happen if that problem arose with a Galaxy S phone? No galaxies any more?
TL;DR: Samsung is a monstrosity of a company. It's for sure a big inconvenience for them, but it won't break their neck and influence them too much.
Think of what would happen if that same thing happened to LG...
And you can be quite sure that all future Samsung phones will be non-exploding a f
EDIT: Whoa, I am astonished of how many people claim to switch to an iPhone....
Have fun with the limited OS and that cancer of software called iTunes
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I don't use iTunes I use Spotify premium for all my music.

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