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Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
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that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
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that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
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Yes, I agree, it worked very well before the problem.
Here you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izdD7l3BWY
Satisfied, and it is still a decent device. But if you are a heavy user with so many apps and multitasking requirements, I'd advise against it as a daily driver.
Yes. After more than a month of use, updated to 7.1.1 and jan security update, so far no problem. This one is my daily driver.
For the "right" price of course. You should try and negotiate.
I can buy three Pixels with my budget, but Im not considering changing my 5x as a daily driver yet. Using it since jan 2016, not a single issue except for the back cover getting dirty easily. Light, not too big not too small, not expensive, powerful enough for almost any task, great display, decent stereo speakers with mod, accurate GPS, good battery life with 7.1.1, always up to date, durable and impressive cameras.
Theres no better smartphone on the market IMO, of course depending on your wishes, you wont need anything other that N5X cannot offer.
It depends on who you are. A heavy user playing games, having a tens of apps opened or rather a decent one with social/media focus? This being a good device for sorta a middle demanding user. It's still got very good camera, vanilla Android, regular updates, good dimensions etc... Speaking for myself, I've always been happy with it. It just fits my needs
It depends!
i have this device from 1 month! it not so much time .. but enought for test it in deep.
the value depends on how much money you will spend!
because the 5x have some deficiencies compare with over middle range! display - battery - audio-ram is under the average!
although the cpu is a very good compromise: good performance and very low heat! and the camera is very very good too!
take your sum but i suggest to look something else and more future-proof ( mininum 3 gb of ram )
ps. I bought it because a friend of mine gave it to me for 100 euro 32 gb hehehehe and it have just 5 months. DD
It is a good phone unless you have unreasonable expectations. Works good for me
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
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I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
My opinion: just buy it If you like the stock android with quick updates, and modding/custom rom
If so, it's excellent, great screen, great camera, a lot of community roms/mods so you cant get bored...
But If you are not going to enjoy that you better go to other option
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
Well, I got it for £200 and it is way worth the money. I think it's okay as a daily driver, but if you had the money - get the Pixel. It's just.. better. If the Pixel is a bit too much maybe get the Nexus 6P. It's an upgrade from this although personally I find 5.2" to be a perfect phone size, and alas the Pixel only comes in 5" and 5.5".
I'm using this as a daily driver with the following, it is still fast and amazing:
Pixel ROM (6.1)
F2FS Data & Cache Partitions
Adaway
Franco Kernel (r32)
SuperSU (SR3)
Naptime (Disable Motion, Instant Doze, and Exclude Fit)
L Speed (LNET Tweaked for Mobile Data, Disabled Debugging, and KSM Enable)
FKUpdator for HawkTail1.2 Governer
Thermal Throttling changed to 46 Degrees Celcius
XThermal Mod (for Charging)
Substratum for "Swift Dark Theme (7.1.1)"
TWRP Classic 3.0.2-2
UX Sound Mod (Final + HiFi)
My short answer No, do not buy. I was debating the Moto G4 Plus versus Nexus 5x last November and purchased the Nexus. It is impossible to say whether I would have liked the Moto better or not but I would research alternative phones before purchasing.
My longer answer is that the Nexus 5x works fairly well but often feels laggy, especially if you have too many chrome browser tabs open. Task switching often feels like my old memory constrained Windows 7 desktop computer. This is without playing any games or loading the Facebook app. These statements are made while running totally stock with the 7.0 OS release without any skins or launchers or widgets loaded. Also I might be primarily commenting on software issues with the Chrome Browser rather than the device itself but when on slow Wi-Fi or 3G connections I sometimes experienced greater than one second User Interface glitches when switching between apps or even getting the on screen keyboard to load in order to type. This all happened while on a long vacation/travel where internet access was often bandwidth constrained. Still I found the user experience to be poor even under good network conditions. I kept a few communications/text-chat apps loaded along with the browser and email and occasionally used some banking or calculator or news apps, enough that memory had to be reclaimed which appeared to be the biggest source of the UI pauses.
To add a little more context I purchased the 5x to replace my Asus Zenfone 2 after its wifi interface had died. The Zenfone 2 had 4 GB of memory and always task switched with ease and never felt laggy (though it was not a speed demon) even though it had a heavier skin. My old Nexus 4 was very SRAM constrained which eventually caused me to upgrade but it never felt as unresponsive as the newer 5x.
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
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Then that's great for you your phone is running good 'til now. It just happened nougat is currently rolling out the time more and more users are getting affected because the older the phone, the more it's getting to an end, that's why lots of users feels like nougat is the problem when hardware is the fault itself, google and LG already declared their statement about it.
Hi all,
i'm contemplating a change of phones. From LG G4 to Motorola Moto Z2 Play because i could get a pretty nice deal on it. I would like to ask the community here for their opinions. I already saw that is has an overall good rating. Questions are, is there anything i should be aware of if i switch? How's the ROM, bloatware wise? Heat issues, battery issues, GPS issues, known problems and so on. LG G4 has a lot of them and im kinda tired of them, although i love the camera and the GPS precision. Any input is welcomed
Thanks!
The ROM is virtually stock Android. There is no bloatware. Just a couple Moto apps that I think are quite useful.
I ahev experienced no heat issues. My previous DD was a Moto X Pure and that joker got hot.
The battery is awesome. I've not ever experienced this kind of life.
I have not had any GPS or other issues.
Some say the camera is not wonderful, but it functions well enough for me. Afterall, I'm more interested in the radio, since it is a phone with a camera, as opposed to a camera with a phone.
Below is my review, stacking it against the Moto X4. I've had it 5 months now and still feel the same. I love it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75005756&postcount=5
I just downgraded (so to speak) from the S8 to the Z2 Play. No regret whatsoever. The only thing I have to get used to is the lower resolution. Other than that, it's a solid mid-range phone (physically as opposed to glass, and as a device) that feels like a flagship (bar the aforementioned screen resolution).
If you like stock Android I doubt you'll regret it.
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I just downgraded (so to speak) from the S8 to the Z Play. No regret whatsoever. The only thing I have to get used to is the lower resolution. Other than that, it's a solid mid-range phone (physically as opposed to glass, and as a device) that feels like a flagship (bar the aforementioned screen resolution).
If you like stock Android I doubt you'll regret it.
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This thread is for the Z2 Play
Yeah that's what I meant sorry. I have the Z2 Play.
thanks for your replies!
I had a handful of g4s. They all went bad and a 5x too. Camera on the g4 was stunning. Low light with the ois was amazing. The hardware was otherwise garbage but looked gorgeous. The LG software was fabulous if you use it in a work environment where you need solid MS exchange services. Asop exchange sucks. Motorola also has solid exchange support. I'm going to say Motorola builds the most durable hardware of any smartphone except the really old blackberries. Moto has been my choice for years. The problem with Moto had always been the cameras. They were horrible. I had the z play and it was barely adequate. Every Moto phone before that was bad too but everything else was so solid that I was willing to look past it.
The Z2 play has a decent camera and you likely will be happy with it. The sd626 is fast for a low power processor. On par with the 808. I would look for an unlockable bl version vs the Verizon one. Custom covers and Moto mods give a bit of the g4 style. Battery life will be similar to the g4. USB c support means super fast charging and you can plug flash drives in, with an adapter. You can merge the internal storage with an SD card for one huge partition as well. The finger print sensor can double as nav keys for more screen space.
I've owned also a G4 long time ago. I will say battery it's way better on the Z2P and the stock Android experience you don't experience any lag. You will ensure many updates on time.
Now regarding back camera, Z2P it's above average but not comparable with G4 which has very good performance. For front camera Z2P it's better.
Fingerprint works great.
Unfortunately i probably wont get the z2 play anymore. Turns out im not eligible for the promotion due to the fact that im not employed for at least 6months at my current employer. Now i hope this promotion will last for another 2-3 months. By then nokia 7 plus will be out and i cant decide between this 2...
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Unfortunately i probably wont get the z2 play anymore. Turns out im not eligible for the promotion due to the fact that im not employed for at least 6months at my current employer. Now i hope this promotion will last for another 2-3 months. By then nokia 7 plus will be out and i cant decide between this 2...
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That's a shame!
I came here to add another point. If you're someone who enjoys running the latest software then don't go with Motorola. Oreo came out 6 months ago and it's not even on the horizon right now. Motorola's gone down Samsung level of suck with updates but Samsung at least has the excuse of having a complex version. I don't know what Lenovo's doing honestly. That would be my main gripe.
Prosis said:
That's a shame!
I came here to add another point. If you're someone who enjoys running the latest software then don't go with Motorola. Oreo came out 6 months ago and it's not even on the horizon right now. Motorola's gone down Samsung level of suck with updates but Samsung at least has the excuse of having a complex version. I don't know what Lenovo's doing honestly. That would be my main gripe.
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That was one reason why i wanted this phone. Near stock OS and i thought they are better with delivering updates. Guess Nokia would be a better compromise then?
magiQx said:
That was one reason why i wanted this phone. Near stock OS and i thought they are better with delivering updates. Guess Nokia would be a better compromise then?
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From what I can tell it's not really a compromise. They seem to be pretty solid devices. If Nokia sold them in my country I'd get one of them. Stock Android, good updates and a great camera. Motorola has good competition there.
Since Lenovo bought Motorola they've been bad at updates. When Moto was owned by Google up until late 2015 they were way better. They have near stock Android, it shouldn't be that long.
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From what I can tell it's not really a compromise. They seem to be pretty solid devices. If Nokia sold them in my country I'd get one of them. Stock Android, good updates and a great camera. Motorola has good competition there.
Since Lenovo bought Motorola they've been bad at updates. When Moto was owned by Google up until late 2015 they were way better. They have near stock Android, it shouldn't be that long.
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guess ill have to wait and see, since i have to forcefully wait another 3 months... Then I'll check the market again.
Hello there
I like this phone and I can get it quite cheap new, but before I do I'd like to know how custom roms perform here and the phone in general, was it a flop or do you like it?
I can see there are many threads and before you bash me for not reading them, I did skim through them but I found myself under mixed impressions as some reported that roms are flawless while some cry about many broken details. I did use mi5 before this one but I gave it to a family member so before buying myself a phone I'd like to consider upgrading (at least slightly)
Thanks in advance !
Tl;dr how is your custom rom experience?
I have no experience with custom roms.
Regarding the hardware, the camera of the Mi5 is a tiny bit better, thanks to OIS, but video is probably better on the 5s.
The fingerprint reader is faster on many other phones, but with Android 7 (official) firmware it's working very well, but my Redmi 4 fp reader is better.
The CPU is ok, but gets warm fairly quickly and starts to stay at base clock,, it's still a fast CPU though.
The display is very nice and otherwise the 5s works very well since I have it now 2 years.
Only negative, the battery could hold longer, but I'm playing some demanding games through the day and have most features enabled. So I have to charge it every day.
End of November should probably the first official Global Oreo image be released, there were some issues with the fp-reader which delayed development.
patoberli said:
I have no experience with custom roms.
Regarding the hardware, the camera of the Mi5 is a tiny bit better, thanks to OIS, but video is probably better on the 5s.
The fingerprint reader is faster on many other phones, but with Android 7 (official) firmware it's working very well, but my Redmi 4 fp reader is better.
The CPU is ok, but gets warm fairly quickly and starts to stay at base clock,, it's still a fast CPU though.
The display is very nice and otherwise the 5s works very well since I have it now 2 years.
Only negative, the battery could hold longer, but I'm playing some demanding games through the day and have most features enabled. So I have to charge it every day.
End of November should probably the first official Global Oreo image be released, there were some issues with the fp-reader which delayed development.
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Thanks. I actually kinda took the risk and ordered the phone yesterday already, but I'm glad you like it. I wanted to buy Mi A2 but I just can't justify buying it while mi5s was 230$ with included shipping. I loved the Mi5 camera so I guess this will be around the same level. Again, thanks for the reply, if someone has something to add regarding custom roms feel free to do so, but now that I've already ordered the phone I'm basically forced to try them out on my own (since I hate miui).
Cheers
Sold my Poco and grabbing my old 5s ..damn why so many oems stuck on bigger an wider screen right now.. about performance its now often getting stuttered somehow.
Agree warmer than my other mi series, camera part one of why i keep coming back to 5,5s series.
Developements part heey we have some tallented Dev here, hope they'll not leaving us soon..
Why have you sold your poco? I'm currently thinking of upgrading to Poco F1.
fpozar said:
Hello there
I like this phone and I can get it quite cheap new, but before I do I'd like to know how custom roms perform here and the phone in general, was it a flop or do you like it?
I can see there are many threads and before you bash me for not reading them, I did skim through them but I found myself under mixed impressions as some reported that roms are flawless while some cry about many broken details. I did use mi5 before this one but I gave it to a family member so before buying myself a phone I'd like to consider upgrading (at least slightly)
Thanks in advance !
Tl;dr how is your custom rom experience?
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I've bought my Mi5S exactly one year ago. Actually, he's working flawlessly with Syberia ROM, Android 9. Many great devs are working on this phone so you have plenty of choices (hope they will stay at least one or two years...). The performance are quite good (I had a really surprising score on antutu with LOS 15.1 (up to 160 000) but I didn't retry with Syberia), the photos are beautiful, the battery is average (but if you buy a new phone it will be absolutly great). I really happy of this Mi5s and I reckon the Xiaomi A2 is fewer less better than it.
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I've bought my Mi5S exactly one year ago. Actually, he's working flawlessly with Syberia ROM, Android 9. Many great devs are working on this phone so you have plenty of choices (hope they will stay at least one or two years...). The performance are quite good (I had a really surprising score on antutu with LOS 15.1 (up to 160 000) but I didn't retry with Syberia), the photos are beautiful, the battery is average (but if you buy a new phone it will be absolutly great). I really happy of this Mi5s and I reckon the Xiaomi A2 is fewer less better than it.
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I agree, I think for the same price an older flagship is almost always better than a new mid range phone. Say, did the fingerprint scanner get optimised better in custom roms? I've seen people complain about it being slow.
fpozar said:
I agree, I think for the same price an older flagship is almost always better than a new mid range phone. Say, did the fingerprint scanner get optimised better in custom roms? I've seen people complain about it being slow.
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Not at all ! Fingerprint is working further better and quicker than before on MIUI. Actually, there is just a bug on Syberia where the fingerprint is reset after a reboot but it may be fixed in the next build and I don't reboot my phone every time...
fpozar said:
I agree, I think for the same price an older flagship is almost always better than a new mid range phone. Say, did the fingerprint scanner get optimised better in custom roms? I've seen people complain about it being slow.
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That was fixed in MIUI around 1.5 years ago. Since then it's fast.
Awesome. Thanks everyone, now all my doubts about this phone are over
I'm glad I've ordered it.
I have seen on XDA that there is much more developer activity for the Pixel 2 xl than for the 3 Xl. Is that true or just my impression? Is 2 Xl for any reason more interesting for developers than 3 XL? Do you think that developers will go on working on the Pixel 2 XL in the next couple of years or will the activity die soon? I ask myself if I should better buy an 3 XL because in the future it will receive more support on XDA and 2 XL maybe less. But I have also read in older threads that many people recommended not to upgrade from 2 XL to 3 XL because there where no big advances, besides the supposedly better screen. Now I have found an interesting offer for a brand new, unopened Pixel 2XL and would like to buy it. But I suppose that the battery will be totally empty after three years in the box and I wonder if it will charge and work normally as new. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you very much!
I don't think development for the Pixel 2XL will end anytime soon. The Galaxy S3 was released in 2012 and still has ROMs being made for it! As for whether to buy it, if you're fine using a custom ROM for future updates (since Google's ended all updates for it now), and you can find one that's a good deal, then go for it!
Superdub
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I don't think development for the Pixel 2XL will end anytime soon. The Galaxy S3 was released in 2012 and still has ROMs being made for it! As for whether to buy it, if you're fine using a custom ROM for future updates (since Google's ended all updates for it now), and you can find one that's a good deal, then go for it!
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You just helped to sell a Pixel 2 XL, at least I bought it for 220 Euros, brand new with an original grey case, which is also unused. I feel like I made a good deal, as I can't imagine a better rootable device at that price. Thank you!
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You just helped to sell a Pixel 2 XL, at least I bought it for 220 Euros, brand new with an original grey case, which is also unused. I feel like I made a good deal, as I can't imagine a better rootable device at that price. Thank you!
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Wow, that's a good deal! Wish you best of luck with your new device, and I hope you get many years out of it.
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Wow, that's a good deal! Wish you best of luck with your new device, and I hope you get many years out of it.
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Thank you very much! Actually I have read that the "taimen" is also known as the siberian giant trout, which can live about 16 years. This should be the average for premium devices. I am typing this proudly on my 2008 built Thinkpad X61s with Windows 10.
I just scooped up a panda on swappa last week for 100 bucks, got a new battery off ebay (actually legit to my surprise) and this thing is running AWESOME. Flashed all the 11 roms and found evolution x to work best for me. Seriously blown away at how well this phone holds up 3+ years later. Only thing I "miss" coming from some modern phones is the 90hz refresh rate, other then that things still very much usable in 2021
Another bonus is unlimited high quality uploads free forever for our device, so yeah even if you decide to upgrade later you can keep your pixel to upload photos for free.
Pixel 2XL worth in 2021?
Snapdragon 835
4GB RAM
Adreno Graphics
6" QHD Full Amoled Display
Surround Stereo Speakers wich will slap you in the Face (the Good way)
Type-C QuickCharge
Awesome Pictures & Videos with Bokeh und Nightvision (Latest Google Camera version)
Android 8-11 (depends if you update or not)
The most beautiful Design ever made (Black/White version)
Runs any App & Games even badass once like
Genshin Impact, Diablo Immortal and yes that ugly Fortnite without any issues.
So would i recommend the Pixel 2XL? ABSOLUTELY
Ps: i bought mine in October 2020 factory new & sealed for 249€ (very rare to find a sealed one, good luck)
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You just helped to sell a Pixel 2 XL, at least I bought it for 220 Euros, brand new with an original grey case, which is also unused. I feel like I made a good deal, as I can't imagine a better rootable device at that price. Thank you!
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Saw that to late, congratz for having one now. BUT don't root it, just don't screw it up, its just a rare phone (specially factory new) there is absolutely NO reason to Root any Device in 2021, whatever you are looking for, "There is an App for that" (yeah that apple phrase, matches Android now as well)
Also you will lose the ability to run any Online Banking app & you will be kicked out of a lotta Games as well, cause of Root. It's not worth it, remember there is always an "App for that"
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Pixel 2XL worth in 2021?
Snapdragon 835
4GB RAM
Adreno Graphics
6" QHD Full Amoled Display
Surround Stereo Speakers wich will slap you in the Face (the Good way)
Type-C QuickCharge
Awesome Pictures & Videos with Bokeh und Nightvision (Latest Google Camera version)
Android 8-11 (depends if you update or not)
The most beautiful Design ever made (Black/White version)
Runs any App & Games even badass once like
Genshin Impact, Diablo Immortal and yes that ugly Fortnite without any issues.
So would i recommend the Pixel 2XL? ABSOLUTELY
Ps: i bought mine in October 2020 factory new & sealed for 249€ (very rare to find a sealed one, good luck)
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Yes, I am also quite happy with my Panda, which I bought factory sealed for 220 Euros, including a brand new google case, which I immediatly thought looks very nice but not very functional. The second day of use it fell down on the floor from my table and it suffered a small crack on the upper part of the screen right next to the speaker, you can imagine that I was not too happy with that, although the damage is not very important . Several days later a spigen case and a screen protector arrived. and cost only 30% of the price from 2017 when the device came out . It now has lost it's most beautiful design of the century but it looks save. Included in the price of my pixel 2 xl came allmost all the bugs the device can have, a slightly blue screen depending on the angle you look at it, which is not very important for me and, but more annoying, a not very responsive touchscreen at the lower edges. This said, the device is marvelous and all what I expected. After rooting I first used the stock ROM but now changed to the last ProtonAOSP, which has a very comfy web installer and is much smoother and faster than stock ROM, passes safetynet and gives me 9 hours of SOT . Yesterday I also installed Viper4Android through magisk and I am totally happy with the result. I have never seen a better sounding smartphone.
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Saw that to late, congratz for having one now. BUT don't root it, just don't screw it up, its just a rare phone (specially factory new) there is absolutely NO reason to Root any Device in 2021, whatever you are looking for, "There is an App for that" (yeah that apple phrase, matches Android now as well)
Also you will lose the ability to run any Online Banking app & you will be kicked out of a lotta Games as well, cause of Root. It's not worth it, remember there is always an "App for that"
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Well, the main reason for me for buying this phone was that rooting is so easy and the developer community for pixel phones is very active. So it is much easier to keep this device up to date than other much newer devices.
I've purchased a renewed OnePlus 9 Pro from Amazon and will try it out. However, I am not committed to keeping the device yet. My concerns are likely similar to many: ColorOS as a replacement for OOS. I also have reservations about purchasing phones from country-controlled corporations. However, this is personal preference and no offense to others. Any input to the survey would be appreciated.
If you're not going to use a custom ROM, run far away.
johninsf said:
I've purchased a renewed OnePlus 9 Pro from Amazon and will try it out. However, I am not committed to keeping the device yet. My concerns are likely similar to many: ColorOS as a replacement for OOS. I also have reservations about purchasing phones from country-controlled corporations. However, this is personal preference and no offense to others. Any input to the survey would be appreciated.
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I have just last week bought a new OP 9 Pro for an amount equivalent to $580 roughly. I had OOS out of the box and now ver.11.2.10.10 after updating and not ColorOS. Based on the usage of about 3 days, I am happy with my purchase. No overheating or other bugs noticed so far . I had a OP 3 before for 6 years.
TNSMANI said:
I have just last week bought a new OP 9 Pro for an amount equivalent to $580 roughly. I had OOS out of the box and now ver.11.2.10.10 after updating and not ColorOS. Based on the usage of about 3 days, I am happy with my purchase. No overheating or other bugs noticed so far . I had a OP 3 before for 6 years.
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You're on OOS11, that's why you're happy with it. As long as you're cool being on outdated software on a flagship device, you will probably continue to enjoy it. Everything goes south when OOS12 comes into the equation though.
EtherealRemnant said:
You're on OOS11, that's why you're happy with it. As long as you're cool being on outdated software on a flagship device, you will probably continue to enjoy it. Everything goes south when OOS12 comes into the equation though.
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I am yet to read about the issues with OOS12. Once I do, I will decide about moving to it or blocking it. I had A11 custom ROM on my OP 3 and I am happy with A11. I am not mad about upgrading just for the sake of it. My philosophy is why meddle with it if it is running and performing to my satisfaction.
Anyway thanks for the warning!
OnePLus 9 Pro is still a Awesome phone.
On colorOS you will have notification bug, because notigication is made to work on chinese app/market. Not google. And clock alarm did not ring if the phone is power off (this is a problem. I have to wake up at 05.30 for work & i like to keep the phone off at night ).
On OxygeOS i did not have any issue on 12 or 12.1, but i did not root, unlock botloader.
I've been rocking OP9P le2125(which is my first OP) for about 5-6 months and I don't regret it whatsoever.
I Never gave oos, nor coloros a chance so can't say much about stock firmware besides reverting back to stock due to user error flashing this n that aimlessly.
I've always been a custom rom kinda guy ever since I discovered rooting existed many moons ago. The XDA forum is thriving with copius amounts of stable and actively maintained roms. Makes me feel like a kid in a candy store!
Forgive me once, for I'm getting a bit off course of this threads original topic.
IMO, the op9p is still a fantastic choice overall. My reasoning for buying op9p has easily been justified and continues to appease my andriod flasholism sort of speak lol.
We have just bought one each. Replacing our Xiaomi Mi 11. Even though these phone of the same time...and chipset, this phone is hugely better in every way. It feels new, fast and fresh, even though they're both SD888.
Antutu score shoe only a small jump...but everything is slick. Battery life is better. In fact, on these phones, battery life is improved by leaving 120hz on. The reason....adaptive refresh rate. When needed...the refresh rate drops to 1hz. Leave it is 60hz....and it is locked to 60hz.
We have the 12GB, 256 GB version,EU.
Its absolutely worth it. Plenty of ROMs if that's your thing and the stock firmware is really good.
I came from the Galaxy S20 with their bloated One UI and don't regret getting the OP9 Pro at all
@cave.man1908 @pjaysnowden @null0seven @TNSMANI @EtherealRemnant thank you for the replies!
I really appreciate your input!! Like @cave.man1908 says, XDA is awesome and you all prove it.
Q: Which custom rom has the most comprehensive functionality for OP9? (e.g. everything or most everything works without work-arounds or hacks)
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My P6P has been underwhelming with connectivity issues so I am considering jumping ship to a used/renewed device.
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I tried a new S22+ but sent it back. Even though it is a beautiful well made device, the largest display and font size settings do not adjust the status bar font size. This is trivial to most but a must-have for me due to my sh1tty vision + I hate using the magnifying app.
Even further off-topic:
In the past 2 weeks, I broke two phone displays while traveling on holiday = vacation in US = Without insurance which I have never forgone on a device since 2011. I have never broken a phone or display going way back to 1999 flip phones (read old man). As such, I was way overdue, I guess.
Again thanks for the feedback and to those who hit the survey.
johninsf said:
@cave.man1908 @pjaysnowden @null0seven @TNSMANI @EtherealRemnant thank you for the replies!
I really appreciate your input!! Like @cave.man1908 says, XDA is awesome and you all prove it.
Q: Which custom rom has the most comprehensive functionality for OP9? (e.g. everything or most everything works without work-arounds or hacks)
Off-topic:
My P6P has been underwhelming with connectivity issues so I am considering jumping ship to a used/renewed device.
Off-off-topic:
I tried a new S22+ but sent it back. Even though it is a beautiful well made device, the largest display and font size settings do not adjust the status bar font size. This is trivial to most but a must-have for me due to my sh1tty vision + I hate using the magnifying app.
Even further off-topic:
In the past 2 weeks, I broke two phone displays while traveling on holiday (vacation in US = Without insurance which I have never forgone on a device since 2011. I have never broken a phone or display going way back to 1999 flip phones (read old man). As such, I was way overdue, I guess.
Again thanks for the feedback and to those who hit the survey.
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I couldn't tell you about RoMs. Personally, I find OxygenOS 12 to be perfectly ok. It is slick....and nearly stock. I have rooted mine with Magisk and removed some bits and pieces....but mostly I root to install Adaway....which is a must for me.
I think you will be happy with stock.
johninsf said:
@cave.man1908 @pjaysnowden @null0seven @TNSMANI @EtherealRemnant thank you for the replies!
I really appreciate your input!! Like @cave.man1908 says, XDA is awesome and you all prove it.
Q: Which custom rom has the most comprehensive functionality for OP9? (e.g. everything or most everything works without work-arounds or hacks)
Off-topic:
My P6P has been underwhelming with connectivity issues so I am considering jumping ship to a used/renewed device.
Off-off-topic:
I tried a new S22+ but sent it back. Even though it is a beautiful well made device, the largest display and font size settings do not adjust the status bar font size. This is trivial to most but a must-have for me due to my sh1tty vision + I hate using the magnifying app.
Even further off-topic:
In the past 2 weeks, I broke two phone displays while traveling on holiday (vacation in US = Without insurance which I have never forgone on a device since 2011. I have never broken a phone or display going way back to 1999 flip phones (read old man). As such, I was way overdue, I guess.
Again thanks for the feedback and to those who hit the survey.
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StagOS 12.1 is incredible. I have zero desire to go back to stock. The only major issue it has is that after a reboot, the microphone and in-call volume control don't work right on my 9 until I make a call and engage and then disengage the speakerphone once. It works fine after that and hopefully this bug will be fixed soon as it's one of the first to be based on OOS12 firmware and it will take time to fully sort out. I have been running it for a few days and the battery life is insane and no sluggish performance like OOS because the SoC throttle isn't in this kernel.
I never really messed with font sizes on stock but StagOS is like Pixelized AOSP and I just tested and can confirm that both font and UI size adjustments increase the size of the font in the status bar.
Sorry for your luck with the broken screens! I have yet to do that going back to my first phones - a cheap Cricket Audiovox I had for a few days, a Nokia 5190 my mom gave me, and the Nokia 3390 Gold I bought because it had AOL Instant Messenger back in 2001, so I stopped getting insurance too. I know it's probably just a matter of time but I do put a Spigen Tough Armor on every phone I get for those times dropping the phone happens and so far, it's been more than enough.
golfgtiedition30 said:
Its absolutely worth it. Plenty of ROMs if that's your thing and the stock firmware is really good.
I came from the Galaxy S20 with their bloated One UI and don't regret getting the OP9 Pro at all
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Thank you @golfgtiedition30
FYI, I have had two GTIs in my lifetime. 1984 and 1997 VR6.
The '84 was spectacular fun. I got so many speeding tickets. It was unbelievably nimble.
johninsf said:
Thank you @golfgtiedition30
FYI, I have had two GTIs in my lifetime. 1984 and 1997 VR6.
The '84 was spectacular fun. I got so many speeding tickets. It was unbelievably nimble.
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I had the MK2 and currently own my 2008 MK5 Edition 30. Its a wonderful car!!
Pleased to help your decision
EtherealRemnant said:
StagOS 12.1 is incredible. I have zero desire to go back to stock. The only major issue it has is that after a reboot, the microphone and in-call volume control don't work right on my 9 until I make a call and engage and then disengage the speakerphone once. It works fine after that and hopefully this bug will be fixed soon as it's one of the first to be based on OOS12 firmware and it will take time to fully sort out. I have been running it for a few days and the battery life is insane and no sluggish performance like OOS because the SoC throttle isn't in this kernel.
I never really messed with font sizes on stock but StagOS is like Pixelized AOSP and I just tested and can confirm that both font and UI size adjustments increase the size of the font in the status bar.
Sorry for your luck with the broken screens! I have yet to do that going back to my first phones - a cheap Cricket Audiovox I had for a few days, a Nokia 5190 my mom gave me, and the Nokia 3390 Gold I bought because it had AOL Instant Messenger back in 2001, so I stopped getting insurance too. I know it's probably just a matter of time but I do put a Spigen Tough Armor on every phone I get for those times dropping the phone happens and so far, it's been more than enough.
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Thank you for checking the font size in status bar! I am shocked (not really) that S22 doesn't adjust. I had the Note9 which I loved but it had the same issue with OneUI 2.0 and hoped they had changed this.
I need to get comfy with custom ROMs again. It has been so long since I used one as my daily.
johninsf said:
Thank you for checking the font size in status bar! I am shocked (not really) that S22 doesn't adjust. I had the Note9 which I loved but it had the same issue with OneUI 2.0 and hoped they had changed this.
I need to get comfy with custom ROMs again. It has been so long since I used one as my daily.
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Flashing ROMs gets addictive lol. If I had a 9 Pro, I would be flashing it all of the time because of the huge wealth of ROMs that were ported for the 9 Pro and not the 9.
johninsf said:
@cave.man1908 @pjaysnowden @null0seven @TNSMANI @EtherealRemnant thank you for the replies!
I really appreciate your input!! Like @cave.man1908 says, XDA is awesome and you all prove it.
Q: Which custom rom has the most comprehensive functionality for OP9? (e.g. everything or most everything works without work-arounds or hacks)
Off-topic:
My P6P has been underwhelming with connectivity issues so I am considering jumping ship to a used/renewed device.
Off-off-topic:
I tried a new S22+ but sent it back. Even though it is a beautiful well made device, the largest display and font size settings do not adjust the status bar font size. This is trivial to most but a must-have for me due to my sh1tty vision + I hate using the magnifying app.
Even further off-topic:
In the past 2 weeks, I broke two phone displays while traveling on holiday = vacation in US = Without insurance which I have never forgone on a device since 2011. I have never broken a phone or display going way back to 1999 flip phones (read old man). As such, I was way overdue, I guess.
Again thanks for the feedback and to those who hit the survey.
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Let it be known though that if you choose to go custom, one major thing you won't be able to have is the oos camera. Decent amount of ppl stay stock or even revert back to stock just to have it. However, there are plenty of alternatives. Along with the plethora of roms available, so is an abundance of gcam(google camera) mods. Other than that, really just minor bugs here and there(purely my opinion). that tend to get addressed fairly quickly thx to the amazing minds and talents of the devs, builders, maintaners, etc... That create such Magisk us end users get to experience. The support within the op9p community is nothing short of amazing.
I'd recommend maybe surfin op9p Telegram channels to get more insight of the community and just how active it truly is.
#1 option was closest for me.
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I would say so (worth buying it in 2022) because it has 2X the storage of the 10 Pro model supported in US and 12GB RAM (vs. 8GB), a metal frame (vs. a much more accidentally foldable/crunchable plastic one...) and couple other things. Snapdragon 888 is still a high end processor. But to each their own. I studied differences hard between 9 Pro and 10 Pro (and few other mfgr's models) and decision was easy for me.
Before I had even decided on which phone (or brand) I wanted, good custom ROM's support was a non-negotiable. Especially LineageOS for my own reasons.
As far as camera quality I am one of those "weirdos" that thinks if you want a pro photographer quality digital camera THEN BUY A PRO PHOTOGRAPHER QUALITY DIGITAL CAMERA... don't expect your smartphone to be one or you are just going to be disappointed.
Yes that is just my opinion but I've seen a lot of sales hype over the years -- and at the end of the day it comes down to how well a phone's cameras are supported even by the vendor's own software developers. So don't hold your breath -- and even more so, don't expect android developers who can only "make" a few bucks per license sold and compete in the app market to come to your rescue and support your phone mfgr's choice of camera sensors any better than the mfgrs themselves do. It is truly great and amazing how well so many independent Android camera software developers support so many different phone models when they can, and the open development platform is one of the reasons I will always choose Android over the others -- but my point is the indie camera software devs do not always have great incentive or an uninhibited shot at doing so. Sometimes the camera hardware is very deliberately just a black box...
I am glad this phone's cameras have some decent software support options (stock OOS or otherwise) but I am not surprised there is basically nothing that supports them perfectly. This isn't my first flagship model lacking in the camera software support department.... our last phones were LG V20's...
In my opinion you just have to decide whether a phone's price is worth only mediocre camera support even if it has high end camera sensors. That is usually going to be the case. AT BEST. Because the hardware vendor is most likely going to "move on" before you want them to.
(because we continue to reward this type of business model and development model with more business, ie, we tolerate it and keep buying more of their unfinished products).
I'm just being realistic.
We ran V20's for as long as we did (~4 years) for their other features, which basically no longer exist in newly manufactured phones. Like a removable/replaceable battery, headphone jack onboard, etc.
And the sooner you figure out your phone's cameras aren't there for YOUR enjoyment the better off you are gonna be...
But if you want a brand new one and you haven't pulled trigger yet, you better hurry, or somebody is gonna be laughing all the way to the bank...
EtherealRemnant said:
If you're not going to use a custom ROM, run far away.
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Is there any custom ROM that works?
Tried multiple, but I have problems with recording audio.
Equal to no sound on snapchat and camera recording.
To OP:
I were very pleased with OnePlus 8 Pro, but I cracked it and had to buy a OnePlus 9 Pro. Worst thing after android 12 came. Had some problems on 11, but its messy on 12. Even considering apple for next phone.
If i were to buy today, I would have bought samsung even knowing of all the bloatware.
zwirc said:
Is there any custom ROM that works?
Tried multiple, but I have problems with recording audio.
Equal to no sound on snapchat and camera recording.
To OP:
I were very pleased with OnePlus 8 Pro, but I cracked it and had to buy a OnePlus 9 Pro. Worst thing after android 12 came. Had some problems on 11, but its messy on 12. Even considering apple for next phone.
If i were to buy today, I would have bought samsung even knowing of all the bloatware.
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Use the OOS11-based StagOS until the C.48 ROMs get fixed. The new firmware always poses new problems but I am sure they will get sorted quickly. The OOS11-based StagOS was great too though.
It's too bad that the fix I found for my microphone and speaker issues on my 9 doesn't work for the 9 Pro. Whenever I reboot, I just have to load the stock dialer, make a call, turn the speakerphone on, and turn it back off, then everything works fine on StagOS C.48. Unfortunately when I told someone with a 9 Pro to try it, they said it didn't work.