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32GB + LTE USA version

I'd like to buy this tablet in 32GB + LTE version but I saw that in Europe (and so in my country - Italy) this version will not be sold so I'm thinking to buy it via eBay in USA.
My friend bought the same version from the same seller and he told me that the tablet is perfect but has not italian language inside. But I don't understand how an official android stock rom has not a particular language. Do you know if it's true? And in that case, since I saw italian version and USA version have the same hw (snapdragon 800), is it possibile to flash the italian stock rom from sammobile? Could I have some problem in future with LTE? And is it region locked?
Sorry for too many questions but I'll spend about $600 so I want to be sure

mouse100 said:
I'd like to buy this tablet in 32GB + LTE version but I saw that in Europe (and so in my country - Italy) this version will not be sold so I'm thinking to buy it via eBay in USA.
My friend bought the same version from the same seller and he told me that the tablet is perfect but has not italian language inside. But I don't understand how an official android stock rom has not a particular language. Do you know if it's true? And in that case, since I saw italian version and USA version have the same hw (snapdragon 800), is it possibile to flash the italian stock rom from sammobile? Could I have some problem in future with LTE? And is it region locked?
Sorry for too many questions but I'll spend about $600 so I want to be sure
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There isn't and never will be "U.S. versions" of the P601/5. Eventually there will be carrier versions but they'll have MMS and the dialer disabled which is the way the U.S. carriers sell them. If you're considering a P601/5 from a U.S. seller on eBay it's been imported from another country. A lot of them are from Latin America. Any EU version of the P605 should have LTE bands that support Italy. You should make sure what LTE bands any P605 you're considering supports to ensure they are compatible with your specific carrier.

I asked the seller which product code has the tablet and I'm waiting for his answer. Meanwhile I saw sammobile firmware list and it seems there is another variant of this tablet SM-P605M that includes latin america countries. So it could be that model number. But if it's true, is it possible to flash a SM-P605 stock rom on a SM-P605M? Both should have the same hardware specs.

mouse100 said:
I'd like to buy this tablet in 32GB + LTE version but I saw that in Europe (and so in my country - Italy) this version will not be sold
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Not quite right...
Think about a holiday in Switzerland

Jack Daniel's said:
Not quite right...
Think about a holiday in Switzerland
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Do you know any swiss online shop that ship it to other European countries?
Inviato dal mio SM-N9005 utilizzando Tapatalk

mouse100 said:
Do you know any swiss online shop that ship it to other European countries?
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Unfortunately not, I think I heard that Digitec sends in other countries.
But you can have a look here toppreise.ch and check some companies.
But keep in mind, Switzerland is in Europe but not in the EU.
That means you need to pay tax and VAT. So it will be very expensive in the end.
If you live near the border it might be better to do a day trip or holiday weekend.
But then there is the problem with customs when you bring it back....

Where can i buy this phone?? Cannot find it anywhere

Hi, I have read a lot about this phone and i really would like to buy it but it is nowhere to be found!! Why is that? Do you know of any online store that has it that ships internationally??
I live in Japan and BTW I want the european model (P2a42) because of the bands supported, not the chinese one. The Chinese model I did found it online
I really dont know what else to do, this is my last resource to get this phone probably
Thank you

e-bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Mobile-Sm... p2&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

AliExpress.

dbgt said:
Hi, I have read a lot about this phone and i really would like to buy it but it is nowhere to be found!! Why is that? Do you know of any online store that has it that ships internationally??
I live in Japan and BTW I want the european model (P2a42) because of the bands supported, not the chinese one. The Chinese model I did found it online
I really dont know what else to do, this is my last resource to get this phone probably
Thank you
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Or through friend in europe

911-Future_Maker said:
AliExpress.
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He will not buy european release on Ali

pabgar said:
He will not buy european release on Ali
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Yes they sell mainly the P2c72, which is unfortunately with better hardware (64gb) than P2a42. It will work just fine in Europe, but in US the 4G frequency is different.

pabgar said:
e-bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Mobile-Sm... p2&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
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all ebay listings sell the chinese variant. I cannot believe there is no availability of the european model (p2a42) online.
I could easily buy the chinese variant and it will work for me for the time being here in Japan, but I wll not be living in Japan forever, when I return to my home country the phone will work only with gsm.... The european model has more compatibility with my home country bands

Check out SuperBuy.my
It is a Malaysian retailer that sells the P2A42 variant. They ship via DHL and many Australians on the Whirlpool forums have purchased there, including me.

dbgt said:
all ebay listings sell the chinese variant. I cannot believe there is no availability of the european model (p2a42) online.
I could easily buy the chinese variant and it will work for me for the time being here in Japan, but I wll not be living in Japan forever, when I return to my home country the phone will work only with gsm.... The european model has more compatibility with my home country bands
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Are you sure the 3g/4g frequencies of p2c72 are different than the frequencies in your country? There is a thread in this forum where I mentioned all the differences between p2a42 and p2c72.

I purchased it from this guy and it shipped to the US fine. Its the p2a42 version I would recommend him
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-P2-G...180128?hash=item2a79bee560:g:4moAAOSw5cNYhae-

Amazon Austria/Germany is selling it. i bought it on another website, for "only" 281€. games2game.at 4GB variant, 32GB Rom. But i don't know, if they will ship to japan. But i got a "french" model. Manual and the package itself is in french, but the phone have all languages. hope there's no problem with warranty, if i need it someday

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Mobile-Sm... p2&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
dbgt said:
all ebay listings sell the chinese variant. I cannot believe there is no availability of the european model (p2a42) online.
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I do not know how you searched the list I gave above but you are wrong
for instance:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-P2...528?hash=item44004deec8:g:eek:XAAAOSwsW9Y0P3r
This is italian release P2 4N0106IT. Definitely for Europe
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-P2...122111?hash=item41bbb5b57f:g:l5UAAOSwA3dYdach
This one is spanish release PA4N0110ES.
Here you have another source:
http://www.radionovelli.it/catalogo...cta-core-32gb-ram-3gb-4g-lte-italia-dark-gray

Using HongKong S20+ in Europe: which things won't work.

Hi all,
I live in Europe and am planning to buy a Snapdragon S20+ from HongKong.
I've checked which network bands the HK phone supports and all bands I need are there.
Before placing the order I want to check with you guys if I have a clear picture of all limitations that come with buying a HK S20+ in Europe.
The list I compiled so far:
- No Samsung Pay (I don't care, won't use it)
- VOLTE may or may not work depending on your carrier (I don't care, I barely call and if I call I don't care about the quality)
- No warranty in Europe .
- Difference in timing of updates
Anything else I should take into account?

YH93 said:
Hi all,
I live in Europe and am planning to buy a Snapdragon S20+ from HongKong.
I've checked which network bands the HK phone supports and all bands I need are there.
Before placing the order I want to check with you guys if I have a clear picture of all limitations that come with buying a HK S20+ in Europe.
The list I compiled so far:
- No Samsung Pay (I don't care, won't use it)
- VOLTE may or may not work depending on your carrier (I don't care, I barely call and if I call I don't care about the quality)
- No warranty in Europe .
- Difference in timing of updates
Anything else I should take into account?
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Carrier Aggregation may suffer, which will reduce download speeds. I have a Hong Kong variant, VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Samsung Pay work however I'm in the US, your results may vary as you mentioned depending on the carrier. Don't expect you can modify the CSC, you can't change it. Samkey doesn't support HK variants and OXM, which allows Preconfiguration changes for different European CSC's isn't embedded in the software. Updates have come in a timely fashion every month and there's no Carrier Branded Bloatware. Even though the device has some limitations I've been pleased with the HK variant, anything but Exynos!

varcor said:
Carrier Aggregation may suffer, which will reduce download speeds. I have a Hong Kong variant, VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Samsung Pay work however I'm in the US, your results may vary as you mentioned depending on the carrier. Don't expect you can modify the CSC, you can't change it. Samkey doesn't support HK variants and OXM, which allows Preconfiguration changes for different European CSC's isn't embedded in the software. Updates have come in a timely fashion every month and there's no Carrier Branded Bloatware. Even though the device has some limitations I've been pleased with the HK variant, anything but Exynos!
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Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I'll go for the HK version then. Don't see any reason why I shouldn't.

Actually Samsung Pay should work in Europe flawlessly, only thing that won't work is rewards. To be more precise, rewards do work, but the rewards shown are the ones of the phone's original country...
As for the Samkey CSC change limitation, I remember reading a post here about a user that changed CSC from Taiwan to Hong Kong using Samkey...

Rulsar_Tec said:
Actually Samsung Pay should work in Europe flawlessly, only thing that won't work is rewards. To be more precise, rewards do work, but the rewards shown are the ones of the phone's original country...
As for the Samkey CSC change limitation, I remember reading a post here about a user that changed CSC from Taiwan to Hong Kong using Samkey...
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Good to know. I'm currently not using or planning to use Samsung Pay but that might change in the future.
Regarding the CSC limations, I don't see any reason why I would need to change the CSC.

Reason why you may want to think twice is that in the event if you get unit with poor uniformity seller may not be willing to replace it as easily

How do you plan on buying it?

Sharpshooterrr said:
How do you plan on buying it?
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I bought mine from T-Dimension. Just be sure to order from their .de or .co.uk site and you don't have to pay any customs. Cheeper then the Exynos version here in Sweden. Took about 2 weeks to get the phone. First they ship it from HK to their warehouse in UK then from there to me.
Skickat från min SM-G9860 via Tapatalk

I have ordered the phone from WondaMobile.
They have the HongKong Snapdragon version for the same price as the Exynos in my country.
Also no customs are being charged as they will ship it from/via the UK.

I have ordered S20 ultra also from WondaMobile. I was on 6th of May and I'm hopping the delivery will not take to much time. I also hope I don't have to send it back because of broken camera glass or other issues which s20 ultra suffers...

Hello
My S20 Ultra comes to WondaMobile and is amazing (model 512/16GB)
Samsung Pay and Volte work perfectly.
Photos are fantastic.

I also have the Snapdragon version
Get it. I had the Exynos and it had a poor battery life plus other disadvantages

Could someone check for me ?: Dutch (the Netherlands) language included in the HK version? Mi

is the hongkong version better than the chinese version ??? any differnce
and what about 5g my country supports sub 6 which is 3.5 bandwith

ChromeFR said:
Could someone check for me : Dutch (the Netherlands) language included in the HK version? Mi
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Yes, it is.

dr.memo1o said:
is the hongkong version better than the chinese version ??? any differnce
and what about 5g my country supports sub 6 which is 3.5 bandwith
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Samsung pay and Google services work.
5g is ok for France

Hello, what is the CSC, what is the use of it and why someone would change it? Are the european languages supported in this version?

Galaxy S20 Plus 5G with Snapdragon in Europe

I need help understanding all the differences between the various S20 Plus 5G versions. I live in Italy and I want to buy the Snapdragon international unlocked but I miss some points in using an international version here where we can only find the Exynos one.
Speaking about the various names, so far I understood
Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM:
SM-G986U - Factory Unlocked from US
SM-G986N - South Korea (?)a lot of bloatware and a custom intro animation, so not the original and "pure" Android version(?)
SM-G9860, SM-G9868 - China, Hong Kong, Japan, Brazil
I've found a good price for the SM-G986N in a European store but I'm missing some details:
My phone will update as soon as the update is rolled out in Korea? And then about the bloatware, easily removable to make the phone lighter and snappier? Regarding this I was wondering if I can flash the US firmware or is it impossible due to hardware differences between the SM-G986N and the SM-G986U? I really miss this point, if there only are software-related differences between devices with the same CPU or also hardware ones.
I've found sometimes the US version in some stores but there were crazy prices or very limited availability.
Which version would you guys suggest me to go for? Thanks in advance for any answer.
EDIT #1 after chieco's answer: rootable phone isn't a priority

you need to get this model SM-G9860 because it has the least bloatware, SnapDragon aaaaaand most important, it can be rooted! Also since your warranty is handled thru the seller and not Samsung you don't need to worry about knox effecting your warranty.

chieco said:
you need to get this model SM-G9860 because it has the least bloatware, SnapDragon aaaaaand most important, it can be rooted! Also since your warranty is handled thru the seller and not Samsung you don't need to worry about knox effecting your warranty.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I wasn't actually thinking aboutroot, but knowing I can do that if I want is certainly an added value!

ianeze46 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, I wasn't actually thinking aboutroot, but knowing I can do that if I want is certainly an added value!
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SM-G9860 will get OTA Updates regardless of your Service Provider, it's Dual-SIM unlike South Korean Variant, it's less expensive than the SM-G986N or SM-G986U and it's as close as you'll get to a pure Android Device when compared to any other Samsung offerings. The only real disadvantages are it may not be 5G Compatible depending on your Service Provider and Warrant Repairs typically aren't handled by the seller unless you buy it directly from Samsung.

SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
Please do check beforehand whether the device supports all network bands that your telecom provider is operating on.
Forget about the SM-986N. It is single SIM and has a lot of Korean bloatware.

YH93 said:
SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
Please do check beforehand whether the device supports all network bands that your telecom provider is operating on.
Forget about the SM-986N. It is single SIM and has a lot of Korean bloatware.
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I've only heard about Samsung Pay, it's the only feature that won't work here in Europe with the SM-GM9860 right? (There's Google Pay, so no problems with that)
All the other "Samsung's" ones like Knox, Pass etc. should work normally as far as I know. Can you confirm?
I checked the bands here in Italy and all should work normally. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

YH93 said:
SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
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Did you get it in a Dutch (online) shop (if so, where?) or did you import it?

ianeze46 said:
I've only heard about Samsung Pay, it's the only feature that won't work here in Europe with the SM-GM9860 right? (There's Google Pay, so no problems with that)
All the other "Samsung's" ones like Knox, Pass etc. should work normally as far as I know. Can you confirm?
I checked the bands here in Italy and all should work normally. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
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I'm not sure about Samsung Pay.
I've read some stories (can't recall on which forum) from European users who confirmed that Samsung Pay works fine on their Snapdragon S20.
I'm not using it myself so cannot confirm.
I can confirm though that the other features that you're mentioning work perfectly.
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anandus said:
Did you get it in a Dutch (online) shop (if so, where?) or did you import it?
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I imported from HongKong via Wondamobile.com.
I can recommend this shop. They're very fast in shipping out the phone (took about a week to arrive), you don't pay any customs fees and they are very helpful in answering any questions you have.
The only thing I recommend to buy yourself if you order from Hongkong is a wallcharger that is compatible with the powersockets in your country.

Samsung Pay does work, you're only getting Hong Hong ads.

Question Country of origin?

Hey guys, I'm seeing a lot of posts coming from Z Fold4 owners who bought their phone on the refurbished market and that can't set up Wallet.
Those phones are often listed as coming from the country where they are being sold. But Samsung Wallet (Pay) doesn't lie and will only be able to get set up in the country of origin.
Now in Europe, most Z Fold4 come with the EUX firmware (except for a few service providers firmwares that remain there and there).
My question is : Is there a way to know the country of origin of a Z Fold4?
The only way I've found so far is to ask a Samsung representative the country by giving out the IMEI number.
Isn't there another way..?
Thanks a lot!

I can't set up Samsung Wallet either, and I bought my phone one the Samsung Store during the pre-order period.
The issue is that I live in France but Wallet seems to think I'm from Germany, for no reason, so I can't achieve the enrollment.
I just think they messed up something with the new CSC policy.
I told them but nothing has been done since August.
I have a S21U on the side, and everything is working perfectly on it, same location and SIM.
So don' count on it and use Google Pay if you can.

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The issue is that I live in France but Wallet seems to think I'm from Germany, for no reason, so I can't achieve the enrollment.
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Thank you! So you bought the Fold4 on the Samsung Shop while living in France?
Then there is definitely something wrong. I'll send a report as well, in hopes that the issue gets looked at.

Yep Samsung Shop France.
There is something wrong with the EUX CSC.