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I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
cduijker said:
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
Gajet said:
Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
cduijker said:
As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
Gajet said:
Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
cduijker said:
no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
Many of you are aware of a thread in the Focus S section of this forum about someone with their Focus S getting VVM to work. However, it wasn't the most helpful thread to replicating it. I have since replicated this on a different device (the Focus Flash), so I wanted to post something here to let more people know.
Thanks to davezaff for the idea.
Here is how I did it on my Focus Flash. You will probably need a way to edit the APNs.
1. Update to 7740
2. Update to 8107
3. Insert sim card into an AT&T Android LTE phone (I used skyrocket)
4. Go to att.com and switch plan to Data Pro 4g LTE plan. I had to call to switch since it wasn't working on the website.
5. Setup VVM on Android LTE phone (don't know if this is necessary, but this is what I did....make sure friend knows the VM password so they can re-add it when they put their sim card back in.
6.Insert sim card back into Windows Phone
7. Call Voicemail
8. Wait for VVM to show up on phone (mine showed up after calling voicemail).
9. If sync error, edit the APN as follows
APN settings (delete the internet_line APN)
Create a new APN
APN Name: pta
Profile Category: internet (always on)
APN: pta
Auth type: None
Username:
Password:
Proxy address: proxy.mobile.att.net
Proxy domain:
Proxy port: 80
I now have working VVM on AT&T with my Samsung Focus Flash. My internet tethering still works (applied the Interop unlock + tethering hack from XDA). I have not tested MMS since I did this, but the MMS APN was untouched.
So they have tied vvm with their stupid data plans, how nice. So I can pay $20 for 300mb + vvm or I can pay $10 for unlimited data and traditional vm... ATT is so dumb.
Moved To WP7 General​
This is not development, its more of a guide. Please post such threads in the WP7 General section​
For the normal person, it is pay $30 for 3GB of data with traditional VM or pay $30 for 3GB with VVM. The only difference is one plan has the word LTE at the end.
how can one even get the 8107 update on the samsung focus s? i tried the old force update method (disconnecting the internet connection) with zune, and that hasn't worked...
simbadogg said:
how can one even get the 8107 update on the samsung focus s? i tried the old force update method (disconnecting the internet connection) with zune, and that hasn't worked...
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This is the process I used:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2012/01/06/windows-phone-7-build-7-10-8107-79-roll-out-started-get-it-now-and-update-manually/
Any idea if this works with the ATT Titan?
mmian said:
Any idea if this works with the ATT Titan?
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Yes, and just download the English only language pack.
i already updated to 8107, but im asking if the vvm works for the titan, i also don't know anyone with an LTE android phone
Does this work if you don't setup VVM on the android device first? I was thinking of just calling AT&T and asking to be switched to the 4G plan.
Get it working without an LTE device
OK, I got this to work on my Lumia 800. Furthermore, I didn't have an LTE device.
What I did have however, is an AT&T store that caters extensively to my place of work (a software company). They are really nice, understand unusual requests, and try everything to help.
I did the following:
1. Upgrade the OS as per the original post.
2. Call the nice AT&T store that I mentioned above. Asked them to put me on an LTE plan. (I was already on an enterprise plan, so I was moved to the same enterprise plan but the LTE version. Cost of my plan remained unchanged).
I explained that I was doing some app development, and planned to be swapping phones from time to time, some of which are LTE phones. (I also have a microsim adapter, so moving between phones that take microsim and regular sim is not an issue for me).
They asked if I'd like VVM provisioning. I said yes.
They told me that they would change my listed phone to a blank IMEI (basically change the IMEI listed on my account to a blank IMEI that's associated with an LTE phone for provisioning purposes). I don't know if this is something all stores would be willing to do.
3. In the APN settings, I changed my APN to pta. I did NONE of the other settings mentioned (proxy, proxy port, and everything else are BLANK).
Now I have Visual Voicemail on my Lumia 800!
Hmm so why is vvm only available to LTE phones/network I want to get this.
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goldenpipes said:
Hmm so why is vvm only available to LTE phones/network I want to get this.
Sent from my SGH-i937 using Board Express Pro.
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...because AT&T wants to sell LTE devices.
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They told me that they would change my listed phone to a blank IMEI (basically change the IMEI listed on my account to a blank IMEI that's associated with an LTE phone for provisioning purposes). I don't know if this is something all stores would be willing to do.
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I wonder if this blank IMEI is a special IMEI that at&t has to test LTE devices on accounts or something. I wonder if this IMEI would also work on other accounts as well. Hmmm.
I don't suppose that IMEI is something you could share possibly? I mean if its not a real phone, and can work on multiple accounts, it would be very nice to (selectively) share it so that some of us can get VVM.
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I wonder if this blank IMEI is a special IMEI that at&t has to test LTE devices on accounts or something. I wonder if this IMEI would also work on other accounts as well. Hmmm.
I don't suppose that IMEI is something you could share possibly? I mean if its not a real phone, and can work on multiple accounts, it would be very nice to (selectively) share it so that some of us can get VVM.
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I agree, since I just called asking for essentially this setup and they deniened any special IMEI.
dasarp said:
OK, I got this to work on my Lumia 800. Furthermore, I didn't have an LTE device.
They asked if I'd like VVM provisioning. I said yes.
They told me that they would change my listed phone to a blank IMEI (basically change the IMEI listed on my account to a blank IMEI that's associated with an LTE phone for provisioning purposes). I don't know if this is something all stores would be willing to do.
3. In the APN settings, I changed my APN to pta. I did NONE of the other settings mentioned (proxy, proxy port, and everything else are BLANK).
Now I have Visual Voicemail on my Lumia 800!
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So i also have an 800 and asked them to provision me for HSPA+ recently, so they switched my data plan to one that was supposed to be able to access it (i have no idea if it really can - that's a whole different can of worms). What did they switch your plan to? If you look online and hit "recent usage", you can see under "Additional Data Purchased Usage" your data lines with the plan code. My code is "HSSMTD4O" Just wanted to see if i could skip the "call att" step.
Thought I would share my experience also..
I was able to get VVM working on my Focus Flash. Luckily I have a friend that works at the ATT store. He just took a Samsung Note scanned the IMEI and added that as my phone. Then he enabled LTE and VVM. I rebooted phone and went in the the phone tile, and VVM prompted me for password. I put in password and all has been good.
The easiest way would probably be to borrow a friends VVM supported phone and put your sim in it, then have them add VVM to your account.
I did not have to add any APN's or make any changes to the phone.
Getting it working without a LTE device and without AT&T in your pocket
So, I decided to try and get VVM setup on my Focus S today, but I have no friends with AT&T and the local store was unwilling to help in the fashion outlined above.
So what to do? Well the main thing you need for this is the IMEI number from an Android LTE phone. So I asked a couple friends that don't live close by, and none of them had a LTE phone.
So I searched the internet for those "Get unlock Codes" websites, specifically for tutorials on LTE phones, and some of them show the IMEI number.
So I went into chat support and told them I needed a LTE plan with visual voicemail, and they asked for the IMEI number, I gave it to them, and then 2 minutes later VVM is now provisioned and working properly.
Yeah so I ended up adding the IMEI of a random Galaxy Note that I do not own. It was dead simple to do it online through tech support chat. After that, just called up voicemail, waiting a second or two, hung up, and then my phone prompted me for my voicemail password and automatically enabled visual voicemail. I realize that AT&T's system does not check for duplicate IMEIs across the network, so you can throw the same IMEI onto any number of phones and AT&T wouldn't know a thing (until they start looking of course).
I did have to change my APN to "pta" to get it to sync properly, but after that it was all smooth sailing.
Now I've got Visual Voicemail on my Titan and Lumia.
I am glad some of you were able to get it to work. The big issue I had before starting this thread was getting the APN settings. After getting VVM enabled, it couldnt connect until I messed with the APN. Glad I was able to help y'all!
Hey guys, so I'm looking into FreedomPop (http://www.freedompop.com/), which is a somewhat newer thing to my state. I set it up on his phone and not entirely sure about it. They give you 1gb of data, yet you have to download their messaging app. When you activate it activates your data, but calling and text cant be used besides through their app which uses data. Ie, your data is used for everything from what I can tell and cell signal is worthless.
The point of this is I'm wondering if it will work on the Sprint S3 SPH-L710 and if that is how freedompop is meant to work since I cannot find any info at all about it. Would prefer to use the stock messaging app but it just gives you a sprint text saying you cant text as if you're still on sprint and all the info in your phone says sprint, network says sprint, etc..
FreedomPop s3
I just in the last week got a s3 from FreedomPop it is running 4.4.2 and came with there dailer and messaging apps installed and the stock ones have been removed. as far as I can tell they are using sprint the phone even says sprint on the back. also when I set up my google voice number it asked me if I wanted to use that as the main number on the phone witch to my understanding is a sprint only thing? but I can confirm google voice connecting for texting and sipdroid will connect but because they removed the stock dialer I cant call out with sipdroid. I hope this helps you out. I am only just now trying to play with sipdroid so I might have more info later.
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I just in the last week got a s3 from FreedomPop it is running 4.4.2 and came with there dailer and messaging apps installed and the stock ones have been removed. as far as I can tell they are using sprint the phone even says sprint on the back. also when I set up my google voice number it asked me if I wanted to use that as the main number on the phone witch to my understanding is a sprint only thing? but I can confirm google voice connecting for texting and sipdroid will connect but because they removed the stock dialer I cant call out with sipdroid. I hope this helps you out. I am only just now trying to play with sipdroid so I might have more info later.
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Apparently the mobile phone part of them is in beta stages. But from what I've noticed, you don't actually have service. Only data service. Everything uses data. If you were to disable data, nothing would work. As far as I can see on the S2 because everything you do it recorded as data under settings. Like phone calls and texts. Where as a normal network it would be over the cell towers and not the data towers. I know they are the same thing but if you're in an area without data, but have signal still, you'd be screwed in that situation.
So my girlfriend has a Sprint Note 4 she activated on boost. We called customer service, had the phone added, he gave us a ## code to activate and everything seemed to go smooth. Phone rebooted a couple times and then popped on with Boost splash screen and the whole nine, cool we figured all was well.
Issues we started to have are two fold, sometimes she can't send text messages. Phone calls seemed to work fine no issue.
The other issue though thats more concerning is the phone doesn't seem to want to establish a 4g connection, when the phone boots its unable to download a firmware upgrade(which I'm assuming is from boost?) and we get the message "unable to establish reliable data connection" but 3g does seem to work. Because of this it was unable to "update the boost server(or profile)"(I believe thats what the message said)
I'm a VZW retail salesman and this issue reminds me of a sim issue I've seen a couple times, but all we did was pop the sim from her old LG Stylo into the note, anyone have any ideas?
I'm wondering if it's an APN issue, but this sprint note 4 on Marshmallow doesn't seem to allow access to edit the apn.
Note 4 on Boost Mobile
Hi!
I just did this. I switched from VZW to boost a month ago and since no boost phones are beefy enough for my regular usage on mobile devices I got a used note 4 and went to the local boost store to swap it over, I called and tried to do myself calling CS on the phone or website and failed. Paid the $10 and everything is working fine. I think since you got the new boost mobile boot animation you should be fine.
When at the store the lady told me the phone NEEDS the SPRINT sim card and maybe part of the reason I was having trouble was due to me trying to use my original boost mobile SIM card.
I am sure your aware but this is the disclaimer from the boost mobile site at https://www.boostmobile.com/#!/support/faq/phones-devices/activate-a-sprint-phone/ ....
"Voice, basic text, and web will be available on eligible Sprint phones.
Due to technical differences between the Boost Mobile and Sprint MMS platform, we CANNOT guarantee that MMS (aka picture messaging) will be available on these phones. In addition, we do NOT guarantee that all Sprint specific or other preinstalled applications may be available or functional (e.g., Sprint TV, Nascar, Sprint Football Live, Sprint Navigator, Mobile Wallet, Wireless Backup).
NOTE: If your Sprint phone asks you to check for Wireless Back up Availability, select No.
Instant Messaging and Mobile Email services will vary by device. For email access, customers can enter their email client's URL into the web browser.
"
You said sometimes you can't sent/get text messages(which implies SMS), did you mean MMS(picture, video, messages with subject lines, group messages, texts longer than 160 characters, etc) ? No SMS would be activation issues, no MMS sounds like APN issue.
I'm no SIM expert, but my understanding is, for CDMA/LTE anyway, that APN settings are applied to the device from the SIM card. I assumed the SPRINT device on Boost would just use all boost apns like my boost device did. However when I compare my boost mobile device APNs and my Sprint device (on boost) APNs they are slightly different.
Maybe try using the original SIM that came with the Note ?
My APN on my Sprint Note 4 flashed to Boost Mobile are;
Bah... I can't copy paste, how about I take some screenshots and also attach my APNs config XML ?
To edit APNs, from the dial pad enter ##3282# , you will need the MSL code.
Hope you get it working.
Anyone with insight for using Sprint stuff on Boost your additional insight would be appreciated.
~thehoovie
Oh, you can also try this as well,
"Refresh Customization"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.refreshDevice
I did mess around with some stuff trying to get roaming to work and this app automated the programming and activation processes to bring me back to original (boost mobile) settings.
Can not make or receive calls from Mexico and unfortunately my the official solution is to use ... the Galaxy S7 not even the S8 the S7
Unless I can find a way to make my Phone work I will have to try the Galaxy S7
What happens when somebody tries to call me most of the time they get voice mail.
When I try and call out most to the time after a few minutes the phone says Call Failed.
Now I have the RSSI at max on the phone do not think the connection is weak.
The phone always receives data emails and messages.
In Mexico the carrier is Telcel
I talked to my company and Rogers "Canadian" they both say I have the right plan and like I said calls to happen say one out of ten tries.
I tried all sorts of things to get voice calls to work every time
Went into service mode manually selected bands "some where it said try Japan my phone does not have the choice"
Tried to disable 4G
Tried to find another network but Telcel is the only choice I have.
Please somebody give me something to try ?
I do not want to use the Galaxy S7
Lose unlimited photo storage
One of the best cameras I tried
Older and slower device
Lose Android updates
Lose Google Assist
Go from 128Gig to 32Gig is painful (mind you I can use a microSD card)
Gain Samsung bloat
But the solution given if I can not find a solution is to use this device.
I really half suspect if I do go with the Galaxy S7 I will not get any improvements.
What can I try to get voice calls work in Mexico ?
Probably a dumb question but did you enable roaming?
From the home screen, swipe down the Status bar.
Tap the Settings icon.
Tap More.
Tap Cellular networks.
Tap System select.
To disable roaming, tap Home only.
To enable roaming, tap Automatic.
To permit data access while roaming, tap to enable Data roaming.
Note: When prompted Allow data roaming, tap OK.
The roaming settings are now changed.
Yes it is roaming Telcel "5 bars" and R "for roaming"
As I said data is no issue, messenger, email etc....
Did Trump already build the wall?
Have you tried to reset the network settings?
if your data is working but calls are not verify your apn is set up properly.
try using hangouts dialer and see if that call goes through, if it does then it's going to be the APN. You can copy it line for line from your s7
l want to thank everybody that contributed.
I am back home in Canada so I can no longer test.
When I go back again I think just for the kicks I will bring the Galaxy S7 just doubtful if will work but who knows.
Still will try and get the Pixel XL to work.
I can not see how it would matter, Pixel XL, Galaxy S7 or whatever if the phone supports the Network it should work.
Now I seen people using the Galaxy S7 receiving and making calls ?
Will have to try it.
On the other hand I know people making the same complaint about Telcel
I checked the difference in hardware Pixel XL / Galaxy S7 they do have a few differences in the bands they support ?
Reset network connections I did think of this but but the warning seeming pretty scary.
If the Galaxy 7 works for phone calls in Mexico for my next trip I will reset network connections. Worth a try, I read googling a few people had similar issues and this worked.
APN the phone works Data and Voice in Canada, in USA but Data only in Mexico "voice one out of 10 calls". Just not sure
Either way I like new phones and the Pixel XL is better.... Pixel XL 2 may want that too