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Real Users, will you get an S9 or a P20?

I am in the process of either buying a P20, or an S9. This is a 35 vs 40 euro per month question (10 total as I need two phones) and since it is 2 years contract I am very interested in the reliability part of the phone, hardware, and software wise.
I am interested in using the phone mainly for communication calls/whatsapp, but also very important for taking pictures and recording videos. No gaming for me.
Reviews, in general, are very good about the P20, but reviews are short-lived usage experiences, and my only experience with Huawei (a Hero 6X), has not been very good: slow to update, the phone freezes from time to time (it is obviously not a flagship, I know), so I was wondering, now that you have (hopefully) used the phone for a while, will you get a P20 or an S9 if you had the chance?
As a former user of the S7 Edge, I tend to think the Samsung is a more reliable phone, but I wanted to hear from real users here.
Thank you.

Asking this in the S9 forums, you're going to be getting answers from people who have already bought the S9 mostly, would be better off asking in the S7 Edge forums where people are yet to decide
Why not buy an S9 and a P20 and have the best of both worlds if you're getting two phones anyway?
Also you can review each of them against each other for other people

kwanbis said:
I am in the process of either buying a P20, or an S9. This is a 35 vs 40 euro per month question (10 total as I need two phones) and since it is 2 years contract I am very interested in the reliability part of the phone, hardware, and software wise.
I am interested in using the phone mainly for communication calls/whatsapp, but also very important for taking pictures and recording videos. No gaming for me.
Reviews, in general, are very good about the P20, but reviews are short-lived usage experiences, and my only experience with Huawei (a Hero 6X), has not been very good: slow to update, the phone freezes from time to time (it is obviously not a flagship, I know), so I was wondering, now that you have (hopefully) used the phone for a while, will you get a P20 or an S9 if you had the chance?
As a former user of the S7 Edge, I tend to think the Samsung is a more reliable phone, but I wanted to hear from real users here.
Thank you.
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I've never had the P20 and never heard of it's reviews, I just want to point out that Samsung also sucks when it comes to software update. Imagine that the May security patch is not yet available through OTA for my device and yet already available in the firmware downloads in sammobile. If you want to get the latest firmwares available you should do it manually through Odin though.
If you're not into gaming, this phone is really fast, and when I said fast, blazing fast. Even though 4gb ram makes other apps reload, it doesnt even bother because they load up really fast. I cant complain much of this phone when it comes to speed.
When it comes to camera, I really like the HDR of this phone and all the features implemented in the camera app itself. It takes really good photos with great exposures (thanks to the improved HDR capability). However, I am not really into Samsung's "smoothening" process, as it makes the photo look smooth, lacking of details. The only way to counterpart that is to enable RAW format in pro mode or use a third party camera app like the gcam port with working HDR+, I use it everytime I found the stock cam's HDR suffering from harsh sunlight and everytime I needed that extra crisp in photos.
Battery? Hhmm. I used to care a lot about phone's battery. I used to disable most apps and features just to get more juice out of it. The least battery I got was about 4h of SOT amd to be honest, Im pretty happy with that. Then, I realized why would I buy a premium phone and then disable most of its features. So I reset my phone and enjoyed it as it is. AOD yeah boy, fast charging will keep me back as soon as possible.
Overall, you cant go wrong with the S9. Speaker with dolby atmos is amazing. I feel like Im watching movies in cinema, for real! I only hate about this phone is that it doesnt have international warranty. Yes it may be a different case with others, this phone was bought in Dubai and then brought here in the Philippines. I wouldnt been so worried until last 3 days that I found out that my phone is affected with "dead zone spots" in screen, and now I've got to deliver it back to Dubai to get it fixed.

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I've never had the P20 and never heard of it's reviews, ...
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Thank you.

Owned the Huawei P20 Pro. If you want good photos, you'll forget about the Huawei.
Oversharpen, blur, bad edge detection, people looking like oil paintings.
The software is bad.
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I was testing both S9+ and P20Pro in the store and...S9+ is a killer I don't see any bad sides besides that fingerprint button on the back...but nowadays its on every phone.
P20Pro...I almost bought it but when I saw how it record videos, I put it out. It's horrible. 60fps is in real 50fps. Bad OIS, video stutters when recording...and little less stuttering when on playback...S9+ feels like a finished, polished product. P20Pro was like...meh, a toy with unfinished software. I don't like it. But huge PLUS for fingerprint sensor under screen and all these gestures with it.
I bought S9+ 2 weeks ago and I'm so happy about it. Perfect phone. I changed from S7 flat (smaller version).
Record videos like..wow. Genius stabilization even with EIS off, nice photos, really big and amazing screen and loud and quality stereo speakers.
I will probably change to S10 next year when they'll implement underscreen fingerprint sensor
If you have any more questions, feel free to tag me. Cheers!

neflictus said:
Owned the Huawei P20 Pro. If you want good photos, you'll forget about the Huawei.
Oversharpen, blur, bad edge detection, people looking like oil paintings.
The software is bad.
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Thanks.

KamilKiri said:
I was testing both S9+ and P20Pro in the store and...S9+ is a killer I don't see any bad sides besides that fingerprint button on the back...but nowadays its on every phone.
P20Pro...I almost bought it but when I saw how it record videos, I put it out. It's horrible. 60fps is in real 50fps. Bad OIS, video stutters when recording...and little less stuttering when on playback...S9+ feels like a finished, polished product. P20Pro was like...meh, a toy with unfinished software. I don't like it. But huge PLUS for fingerprint sensor under screen and all these gestures with it.
I bought S9+ 2 weeks ago and I'm so happy about it. Perfect phone. I changed from S7 flat (smaller version).
Record videos like..wow. Genius stabilization even with EIS off, nice photos, really big and amazing screen and loud and quality stereo speakers.
I will probably change to S10 next year when they'll implement underscreen fingerprint sensor
If you have any more questions, feel free to tag me. Cheers!
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Thanks, S9+ is another option, but I think I am going to go with S9 this time. Main differnce I see are more battery, more screen, adn more camera, but more expensive

I not really big fan of huawei, I'm a Samsung user from a long time, I'm pretty impressed with the camera, Software UI, and some other stuff... I don't really like huawei's Software and Camera quality is damn too low as compared to Samsung...
I would suggest you to go with samsung... but its upto you

Everyday Use

Been watching a few videos about the Mate 20x, I really do fancy one. I have the 20 Pro atm.
So to my question -
What is it like for everyday usage, is it too large?
Is it more of just an internet browsing device or a gaming device.
I don't have large hands & have the Note 9 atm Is the difference in size not that much?
Any other comments welcome.

I have normal size hands and for me its not to big at all.
I never play games, but really enjoy seeing everything a little bigger
Its a awesome phone and it fits in all my normal jeans pockets to.
Go get it [emoji4]

I've only had it a few days, and have the iPhone X S Max too.
Certainly not too big for me. Lovely screen.

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Been watching a few videos about the Mate 20x, I really do fancy one. I have the 20 Pro atm.
So to my question -
What is it like for everyday usage, is it too large?
Is it more of just an internet browsing device or a gaming device.
I don't have large hands & have the Note 9 atm Is the difference in size not that much?
Any other comments welcome.
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It's not as big as some of those review videos say it is. The camera, speakers and battery life and screen size are the best of any phone there is right now. There is no other phone that I would consider an "upgrade" to right now. This sets the standard for me as the best big phone there is. Having really loud speakers, a massive battery and screen and the best, most versatile cameras makes the 20 X the best big phone in my opinion.

I had a note 9 before getting the mate 20 x as well and it's far bigger but not in a bad way. I hated how "skinny" the note 9 was. This is by far the best device in the game. Only thing that sucks is no bootloader unlocks right now unless you want to pay laughable prices, but i got mine before the bootloaderpocalypse.
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Is the A70 worth it?

It seems that this phone has a lot of issues and problems that are constantly being ignored or not cared about by Samsung.
Is this phone worth it, or am I better off selling it and buying an A50 which seems to have the attention of Samsung? Because The A50 has gotten so many updates compared to the A70 that is still on Security patch level: May.

I've had an A70 for about a month now and it's one of the best phones I've ever had. Battery averages at two days, screen is bright and always legible in bright sunlight, phone is fast and smooth. Fingerprint unlock used to be crap but updates have made it work ok. Face recognition is good. Camera is pretty good - again it's improving with updates.
I think it's the best phone for the price.

I'm really happy with mine but yeah the fingerprint reader isn't the best but it's still a great phone

Have not had any problem with this phone. To be honest, worth every Penny I paid for it.

At the moment I don't have one as my contract is due for an upgrade in October. But I as usual I have been doing research about this device and I must say the pro out weighs the cons by a mile. All the you tube reviews from unboxing to month on reviews are all positive. I am even overlooking the A80 as the A70 offers so much more for my money. Stick to your phone bud. You are in the teething phase now

I have been using a V30 and S8+ for the last year (1 was a personal device and the other as work phone). Performance on both phones was identical, with the key differences being the camera (better on the v30) and the ergonomics (v30 won this as well). Most recently I purchased the A70 and have been using it as my daily driver for the last 2 weeks or so. I have the A70 setup exactly the same way as both the V30/S8+. Same apps, settings, etc. I can say from a performance point of view, I have not missed the V30/S8+ at all. The A70 runs the same apps without any noticeable performance difference. I am not a huge gamer but there are a few that are always installed on my phones.. and they run the exact same on the A70, as they did on the S8+/V30. I haven't seen a difference in load times, or graphics and performance has been the same. Camera quality is pretty good. I thought Id miss the wide angle from the V30 but the A70 has it as well. Front camera on the A70 is much better than both the S8 and the nearly useless front cam on the v30. Battery life is fantastic. I get 2 days usage from the A70, whereas the S8+ gave me 1 day. Audio quality to my ears is the same. That is a lot considering the A70 runs on the SD675 and the V30/S8+ on the SD 835. The display is crisp and what you expect from a samoled. I would say yes, the phone is def worth it. Removable storage, huge battery, fantastic 1080p display, BT 5.0. and great performance. This phone has met all my expectations.. and I am glad I bought this rather than an s10+ which is more than double the cost of this phone.

Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price

i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.

Yes i'm totally happy with my a70, not a perfect device but exceeded my expectations by miles
I will list cons only here:
1-white colour has a tint to it, but no problem may be the amoled nature or my calibration
2-prefer stock android, but one ui is so good
3-no twrp or easy root and custom roms yet, but i will wait
4-no stereo speakers, but the included speaker is loud enough
other than than all are pros not cons

I like it. it's not perfect but it has better native apps than most phones I've owned.
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work
but the phone has a night mode for its settings. has a great onboard keyboard. it has its own app store, theme store.
File explorer is very usable. I'm off 3rd party apps for the most part.
The music app is super fast to load the artworks. Sees most artworks. takes 48 hours but indexed my 300GB music and loads entire list (all have artworks) in real time. Really imperfect but very fast, great music app by Samsung.
Then there is the RAM Memory optimizer under settings; device care; then memory button. On other phones I have had lately, this can take a long time. Have to go in apps in settings and do each one individually.

My phone gets 1 bar of signal strength less than my other phones but despite that I love this phone.
Fingerprint reader performance is livable. (A sweaty thumb on glossy glass is prone to cause difficulties with finger print reading, even on Iphones. So I can deal with it. - Try storing fingerprint data with a wet finger? Seems to have helped.)
The camera with the G-cam app is very good, and even so I still find myself using the Samsung camera app more often for its features and the polish of the app. - The panoramic shot is a full 360 degrees and better than my Iphone7. I like the hyperlapse and slowmotion. HOwever, this phone is definitely not a camera phone and won't take steady videos.
The native file explorer app and video player app are great.
The 20:9 aspect ratio is perfect for phones. You get so much usable real estate and yet a slimmer form factor that is much more practical for one handed use and for keeping in your pockets.
I love the ONE UI interface. I have it navigation bar set to invisble and I'm using gestures.
Compared to my previous phone it's thinner as well and feels great. It does not feel like a cheap phone at all. It feels solid and well produced.
I have the one in white. Paid $370 for it.

I got the samsung a70. I like the phone's 6.7 inch display. But the aspect ratio makes it a bit narrow. That's why I'm thinking about getting the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think I should stay with this phone or buy the mate 20x?

kruc Ire said:
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work.
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Register 3 fingerprints of the same finger and it'll work seamlessly.

ok. I may try that. I have already but for some reason I deleted the first two or three, hoping one clear one.
Hey look at this RAM management screenshot. Whisked away Youtube's 150MB mess and a bunch of others.

Which one shuld i buy?
alsartawi said:
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?

dieqohc said:
I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.

alsartawi said:
the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
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Seems like the Mi9T doesn't have an SD slot?

I have my A70 for a good amount of time to speak about it.
I really like the device. It's fast, reliable and it was a surprise to me that it can hold two sim cards and a microSD card at first. I remember that I was astornished by it's beautiful, shiny back, but that's a personal prefference. I only found 3 problems with this phone that gladly doesn't bother me that much.
Starting with the back, it's really, REALLY easy to scratch it. Mine, even if it was in the case, have some scuffs on the back. It's plastic, not as much resistable as the glass is, but I was aware of that when I was buying it. Kinda shame.
Secondly, the bezels are very small and I have big hands so sometinmes I touch the screen when I don't want to or being aware of. A bigger case like one of those armor cases should fix my issue, but that adds to the size of the phone which, I am not sure if I want right now.
Lastly, the cursed fingerprint scanner. It doesn't work all the times, but the updates seems to give it a bit of speed and accuracy, failed attempts to read out the fingerprint significantly decreases.
Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.

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Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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I own the a70. But I'm thinking of switching to the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think its worth buying the mate 20x and selling the a70 for half an inch inch difference in screen size?
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3 months since I bought this awesome phone. I have no regrets. Biggest pros are 2 sim + sd card simultaneously and the huge 4500 mah battery

Came from previous flagship s10?

Hello, i just want to get some opinion from a previous s10 user. Because im thinking about getting s10 instead of s20 from my network.
1. Whats the first thing that impress you coming from the s10?
2. What you like and dislike between the phones?
3. Will you recommend getting s20 or just s10 and install some roms/tweaks etc.
Thank you very much.

Really only noticed the nicer zoom function in the camera and louder speakers when playing games. I guess if you can swing it go for the phone with better internals and will get updates past 2021. But for practical purposes, you won't notice much of a difference between the two. Especially if you get an S10 5g. The size of the phone would be comparable.

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Really only noticed the nicer zoom function in the camera and louder speakers when playing games. I guess if you can swing it go for the phone with better internals and will get updates past 2021. But for practical purposes, you won't notice much of a difference between the two. Especially if you get an S10 5g. The size of the phone would be comparable.
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thank you for your input. will keep that in mind!

I have previously owned iphone x and was thinking about switch to s10, but iphone x felt more fluid - now that i have s20+ my ex X looks laggy as hell... IMO s20+ best phone you can get at the moment

No much difference other than 120hz and camera which is not noticeable in everyday routine. I wont suggest upgrade if you have s10 already. Dont buy Ultra just because of camera.

I definitely notice that the camera is alot sharper. I had s10+ for nearly 11 months and I always felt it was too soft. Battery life is the same... 120 hz refresh rate is cool but I hardly notice it i dunno why. But I've left it on 120 hz cause battery life is good for me. Also, I've tried to switch to iPhone x and xs max couple of times... while I loved the feel in the hand I always ended up returning it after two days because it was too boring..
With s20+ the feel in the hand is like iphone.. haptic motor feels better..
If these things don't matter to you then get s10 because that's all the difference there is.. zoom sounds cool but believe me its not useful unless you are traveling and with current pandemic nobody's traveling for recreation for atleast next 18 months

Thank you everyone. Still haven't visited my carrier because of the pandemic. I decided to go for s20+ because of the promo that is being offered. Free galaxy buds and a 20$ voucher downside is exynos variant.

Question S21 Ultra to ZF3 : Would love to hear your thoughts!

Of course the big main screen is the #1 positive.
If anything is going to break this deal its
#1 the small cover screen first and foremost.
#2 it's the cameras but I've been surprisingly OK with the ZF3 shots lately.
How Bout you?

i shifted to all apple last year and im so in love with my iphone 12 pro max, i love the eco system
but i still want to buy Samsung as i love the extra customization and its like tab and phone
my main concerns
are there any cases from rhinoshield or any well known brands? my phone falls to much from my hands
my last s20 ultra have so much focus issues that never wanted to go back to samsung, maybe i got a defective unit 12 pro max cam is awesome
the inside screen quality, i watched a durability test and the nails still damage the inner screen

I went the opposite way. I just returned my z-fold 3 because of the battery life and the cameras. The s-pen flip case was absolutely horrid. I just feel for a $1,900 phone, it was underwhelming. I'm hoping on the z-fold 4, they put the s-pen solo in the phone. It just wasn't the note replacement I hoped it would be. I ordered an s21 ultra 512 GB but I won't be here till the end of the month so I'm looking forward to that now.

I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.

I went from S21 Ultra to Fold 3, I certainly won't be going back to to a candy bar phone again. The cameras do a good enough job for me, the S21 camera array would have been nice, but I do wonder how much it would bump the price up.
I don't mind the outside screen either, certainly easier to type 1 handed, where the S21 U was quite wide to use like that.
I found this video the other day, regarding the cameras

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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.

bs3pro said:
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Maybe in your opinion but I have my own. The cameras are basically up to par with my Note 20 5G. Maybe you are willing to sacrifice to have a folding screen but I am not. Cellular reception also was worse and I have a feeling that is what was killing the battery. By all means enjoy your F3 and I'll enjoy my S21. Like I said, I am looking forward to the Fold 4.

I love my fold3. The battery life isn't great, but try turning off your 5G. That should help out quite a bit. Plus you won't be able to tell the difference with the speeds unless you're using ultra wideband.

S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021

S21U to ZF3. I've gotten settled into the Fold 3 after a few days - I had to swap out my email app of choice (Nine) for Outlook to help with the battery (Nine has always been a bit of a hog, but it tips the scales to "not a full day" whereas Outlook plays nicer). I'm now getting a full business day (12hrs) but not much more.
I've got a little stand and BT keyboard taking its place as an iPad Mini Pro as welll...
I will miss the S21U cameras (I still have it...not giving it up so quickly!) so it's def form vs. function.

My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.

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My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)

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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Well, didn't usually carry the tablet with me as much as use it around the house. That said, yes. Not only is the tablet a second battery, it's a larger second battery. I expected higher usage, I just didn't expect as much as I should have. I do have the ability to bring a battery if needed, I just don't need to in most cases.

Totally get it. It's just helpful to think about the loss of the large 2nd battery

dezborders said:
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
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rockky said:
Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I took the ZF3 and S21U out together today and did camera tests on my own and was amazed how well the ZF3 matched the S21U. (cept for zoom and macro)

Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.

iceepyon said:
Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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S21u outside of USA and SK has the "inferior" Exynos chip which has different performance and heat management (and also different ISP for processing images taken with cameras)
It's a difficult question ... Upgrade from S21u to F3?
Personally I'd say if you want to try foldable phones the F3 is the one to go for
If camera is most important to you stick with the S21U

bs3pro said:
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol

dezborders said:
My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL

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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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As a phone enthusiast (read addict), I have owned in the last 12 months.... Note 20 Ultra, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Xiaomi Mi 11 5g, S21 ultra and now the Z Fold3.
The Fold 3 is 1000s times more advanced and exciting to use than any of the other devices mentioned above... however the Z range cameras are stuck at 12mp from 2019 S10 era.
I agree pictures taken with a Z Fold3 are good or even excellent in most cases....
however, if you claim 2.0 optical zoom in F3 is technically as good as 10x optical zoom in S21U , or thar 108MP with Laser autofocus on S21u is not "better" than basic 12mp main lens on the Z Fold, you are mistaken my friend
(and lets not even begin to discuss the 4 FOUR! megapixel under-screen-camera lol )
To clarify .... I ABSOLUTELTY LOVE my Z Fold3!
I just think Samsung has missed the opportunity to release the ULTIMATE "UNBEATABLE" smartphone by not including 2021 spec camera module from the S21 Ultra. (The Note range always matched or exceeded the cameras in the S range from 6 months previous so why not do the same with the Z range?).