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[Q] Asus zenfone 2 vs One plus one

as we all know one plus one is the flagship killer of 2014....
i am so much confused between opo & zenfone 2...
i wanted to purchase asus zenfone 2 but i dont think there will be much development for this device....
if i buy one plus one there are so many cyanogen mod themes....
but one plus one has many problems too... while there are very less chance to get any cm rom on asus device....
zenfone 2 offers better specs but one plus one supports more development
please help me which one should i buy one plus one or asus zenfone 2..???

Mike Stark said:
as we all know one plus one is the flagship killer of 2015....
i am so much confused between opo & zenfone 2...
i wanted to purchase asus zenfone 2 but i dont think there will be much development for this device....
if i buy one plus one there are so many cyanogen mod themes....
but one plus one has many problems too... while there are very less chance to get any cm rom on asus device....
zenfone 2 offers better specs but one plus one supports more development
please help me which one should i buy one plus one or asus zenfone 2..???
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You should wait to see the official price of zenfone and compare the cost/benefit.

Mrcl1450 said:
You should wait to see the official price of zenfone and compare the cost/benefit.
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Sure will wait till march but i really like cyanogen mod...
looking to the people response i dont think asus will support more development...

Mike Stark said:
Sure will wait till march but i really like cyanogen mod...
looking to the people response i dont think asus will support more development...
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I'm almost sure the zenfone 2 will be a popular phone and popular phones always have a good community so the chances of zenfone get cm are high. But we have to wait to see

Mrcl1450 said:
I'm almost sure the zenfone 2 will be a popular phone and popular phones always have a good community so the chances of zenfone get cm are high. But we have to wait to see
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hoping for best...
wish someone will port cm12 for zenfone 2 in future...

Went for the OnePlus One
Since the latest information regarding the Zenfone 2 was suggesting the $199 price tag would be for the 5" 720p device, I decided to order the OnePlus One instead.
It might be that the the 5.5" 1080p model ends up costing $199, but in Belgium (where I live), I suspected it will be more expensive.
The OnePlus one has been out for quite a while now, reviews are super positive. A LOT of development is going on for it, whereas the Zenfone 2 will be brand new in March (?), no reviews at all exist about this phone (will it be any good?) and development will start slow.
Also (correct me if I'm wrong), it would take some work to port CM to the Intel x86 platform whereas the OPO runs CM natively.
I ended up paying $356 for the OPO incl shipping, which seems reasonable. If the Zenfone 2 5.5" 1080p edition with 2GB of ram ends up costing $199, it would be a super deal, but I doubt it...

Rubberducky said:
Since the latest information regarding the Zenfone 2 was suggesting the $199 price tag would be for the 5" 720p device, I decided to order the OnePlus One instead.
It might be that the the 5.5" 1080p model ends up costing $199, but in Belgium (where I live), I suspected it will be more expensive.
The OnePlus one has been out for quite a while now, reviews are super positive. A LOT of development is going on for it, whereas the Zenfone 2 will be brand new in March (?), no reviews at all exist about this phone (will it be any good?) and development will start slow.
Also (correct me if I'm wrong), it would take some work to port CM to the Intel x86 platform whereas the OPO runs CM natively.
I ended up paying $356 for the OPO incl shipping, which seems reasonable. If the Zenfone 2 5.5" 1080p edition with 2GB of ram ends up costing $199, it would be a super deal, but I doubt it...
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i totally agree with you most of the device running cyanogenMod have snapdragon or any other chipset....
but i have recently heard that cyanogen is not supporting opo anymore and they are working on their own os namely oxygen os.....
but if we look at the price point i think 4gb version of zenfone 2 will be available at 350$ or may be less than that...
well it can't predicted which device is much better...
well i will wait one week after the release of zenfone 2 and wait for the review of other people ...
hoping for good....
and about development i think xda have amazing devs i think anyone of the developer will definitely help asus users to get cm....

Mike Stark said:
i totally agree with you most of the device running cyanogenMod have snapdragon or any other chipset....
but i have recently heard that cyanogen is not supporting opo anymore and they are working on their own os namely oxygen os.....
but if we look at the price point i think 4gb version of zenfone 2 will be available at 350$ or may be less than that...
well it can't predicted which device is much better...
well i will wait one week after the release of zenfone 2 and wait for the review of other people ...
hoping for good....
and about development i think xda have amazing devs i think anyone of the developer will definitely help asus users to get cm....
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True. Another reason for buying the OPO now is that I really needed another phone as my current one is just too slow for daily use now. If I had time I probably would wait for the Zenfone 2 to come out, wait for reviews/opinions. If you have lots of time to wait, you can wait for the OnePlus 2 (Q3 I think) too.

Rubberducky said:
True. Another reason for buying the OPO now is that I really needed another phone as my current one is just too slow for daily use now. If I had time I probably would wait for the Zenfone 2 to come out, wait for reviews/opinions. If you have lots of time to wait, you can wait for the OnePlus 2 (Q3 I think) too.
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No man one plus 2 is too far....
i need to buy a new device by march if asus doesnt come up with good reviews than m definitely going to buy one plus one....

Mike Stark said:
No man one plus 2 is too far....
i need to buy a new device by march if asus doesnt come up with good reviews than m definitely going to buy one plus one....
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You will regret the OPO if you are even a minor perfectionist, and the display quality is important to you. I went through 5 of them because I wanted to love it, but all 5 had terrible yellowish bottoms of the screen.

blyndfyre said:
You will regret the OPO if you are even a minor perfectionist, and the display quality is important to you. I went through 5 of them because I wanted to love it, but all 5 had terrible yellowish bottoms of the screen.
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Did you get the yellow bands immediately? I have had the OPO for a few days now, it is a super phone! No yellow bands (yet?).

Rubberducky said:
Did you get the yellow bands immediately? I have had the OPO for a few days now, it is a super phone! No yellow bands (yet?).
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Yes, on all 5, and some worse than others. Maybe it has something to do with my retina cones!!
Are you using the on screen navigation keys? If so it makes it much less noticeable. Try turning them off, and brightness up and use hangouts or an app with a white background. Or better yet, don't even look for it and it will never bother you.

I was almost set on a OnePlus One, but I spent the day reading about the Zenfone 2, and now I'm quite intrigued by it. I have a few questions that I hope I can receive some advice on.
1. Purely in terms of performance, how does this particular Intel chip fare against the Snapdragon 801 in the OnePlus One?
2. I keep reading comments about supposed poor battery life on Intel Atom processors, compared to the Snapdragons. Are there any concrete facts concerning this? Or is it just generally assumed that the Intel Atoms translate to poor battery life?
3. I'm concerned about the aspect of software updates and custom ROMs for the Zenfone 2. Asus apparently aren't particularly quick with OS updates, and I'm worried that the Zenfone might end up not receiving as many as something like the OnePlus One. I'd also want the option to try an alternative ROM or two, say CM, in the event I don't like Asus' factory ROM (a lot of people don't seem to like it). Do you guys think the Zenfone 2 will be restricted in that sense, being an Intel architecture as opposed to ARM?

blyndfyre said:
Yes, on all 5, and some worse than others. Maybe it has something to do with my retina cones!!
Are you using the on screen navigation keys? If so it makes it much less noticeable. Try turning them off, and brightness up and use hangouts or an app with a white background. Or better yet, don't even look for it and it will never bother you.
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I don't have any problems yet (no on screen buttons). So maybe they fixed it in the newer phones? Lets hope it won't come later.

Rubberducky said:
I don't have any problems yet (no on screen buttons). So maybe they fixed it in the newer phones? Lets hope it won't come later.
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I doubt it will present itself later, you should be fine.

DanielKennethRego said:
I was almost set on a OnePlus One, but I spent the day reading about the Zenfone 2, and now I'm quite intrigued by it. I have a few questions that I hope I can receive some advice on.
1. Purely in terms of performance, how does this particular Intel chip fare against the Snapdragon 801 in the OnePlus One?
2. I keep reading comments about supposed poor battery life on Intel Atom processors, compared to the Snapdragons. Are there any concrete facts concerning this? Or is it just generally assumed that the Intel Atoms translate to poor battery life?
3. I'm concerned about the aspect of software updates and custom ROMs for the Zenfone 2. Asus apparently aren't particularly quick with OS updates, and I'm worried that the Zenfone might end up not receiving as many as something like the OnePlus One. I'd also want the option to try an alternative ROM or two, say CM, in the event I don't like Asus' factory ROM (a lot of people don't seem to like it). Do you guys think the Zenfone 2 will be restricted in that sense, being an Intel architecture as opposed to ARM?
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Moorefield in the Zenfone 2 smokes the 801 and is more on par with 805. Battery shouldn't be an issue as the new Intel processors are built on 22nm FinFET vs the older 32nm planar. FinFET is what Samsung and TSMC are supposedly releasing this year with the new Samsung Exynos built on what is equivalent to 20 nm FinFET but they are calling 14nm. Anything that reads z2xxx are the older processors which I don't even know why Asus is using. The new processors are z3xxx model numbers. I had a Dell Venue 8 pro with the new Intel chip running full windows and the battery life was comparable to my iPad Air except it ran full windows

Actually it is Intel vs Snapdragon
And Dude go for OnePlus One!
Awesome phone and best specs for this price!Overall nice phone with great features.
Using ONE since 6 Months No issues Whatsoever! :thumbup:
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@OP ask me anything everything about OnePlus One!
I'll answer any question!

I think of buying an oneplus one, but I'm concerned about some touchscreen issues that some people had.
Does anyone know if these issues have been fixed?

In my opinion, one plus is the best choice. He is good looking. He is not strong but he is famous.
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SuperMan(Alex) said:
Actually it is Intel vs Snapdragon
And Dude go for OnePlus One!
Awesome phone and best specs for this price!Overall nice phone with great features.
Using ONE since 6 Months No issues Whatsoever! :thumbup:
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@OP ask me anything everything about OnePlus One!
I'll answer any question!
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many people are telling that they are facing yellow tint,touch and heating issues while playing games...
is that true..???

Oneplus 3 vs ZTE Axon 7

I know there are a lot versus threads popping up (OP3 vs Samsung S7, OP3 vs Nexus 6P,.. ), but I would really like to hear your opinions about the ZTE Axon 7.
https://www.zteusa.com/axon7/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7
I'm very interested in the Oneplus 3, but the Axon 7 looks so promising.
I really don't understand why this device isn't getting more attention. (Bad marketing?)
It is on many point familiar with the OP3. But imo has more interesting features.
They are releasing a 6GB/128GB model and a 4GB/64GB model.
- Same Snapdragon 820 CPU
- Same Adreno 530 GPU
- Both are Dual SIM
- Same screen size
Pro's for the ZTE Axon 7
MicroSD support
1440 x 2560 resolution display instead of 1080 x 1920.
20MP camera (can't really compare the quality)
Quality dual front facing speakers
Larger battery (not by much. 3140 vs 3000 mAh)
Pro's for the Oneplus 3
Great community and custom rom support.
Comparison between the two on GSMArena
I also prefer the fingerprint sensor on the back, but I admit this is personal preference.
The only thing I'm afraid of would be the possible lack of a community.
So please tell me. Why should I choose the Oneplus 3?

I personally don't know anything about zte development here on xda(my bad) the specs are look really promising.
But think about it. It's only 140mAh more battery for a 2K display...and don't want to mention the phone's own UI(talking about the optimization)
It is a bad marketing from ZTE, I haven't heard about the device at all....
The sd card is just unnecessary for the 6gb/128gb IMHO.
When is this phone gonna be released? Interested abou the price and want to know if it will have a European version....
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It is a AMOLED display, so battery shouldn't be too affected.. They are aiming for google daydream support after all and a resolution like that is required.
The MicroSD slot is a hybrid SIM-slot. Unnecessary since I will be using 2 sims, and like you said, 128GB is more than enough storage. But useful when I think of flashing a new rom.
If I read correct the release should be somewhere in mid June - begin Juli.
So hopefully not much longer.

I have been searching for a phone for at least 6 months and this phone was on my list.
I compared the OP 3, Axon 7, and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
All very similar in specs besides the screen on ZTE axon 7. Both zenfone 3 d and axon have the front facing speakers, but also both start at a higher price tag for what I consider not important enough features for me to justify the jump.
The oneplus 3 has everything on the inside the other two do, yet an appealing price tag, and developer community is not just supported, but encouraged. This made the phone a win in my book. I can manage fine with a decent display and lose the dual front facing speakers (which I really wanted). It literally depends on how much your willing to spend for what is important to you.
Either way, the ZTE seems to be a fine phone, and is a top contender for anyone. I just didn't want to pay more for a less ram/storage option over what the op3 offered me.
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Keep in mind that the ZTE offers a free extended warranty program 'Passport 2.0'.
A similar warranty program for the OP3 costs you $80 extra.
Axon 7 + Passport 2.0 (2 years warranty and free out-of-warranty repairs): $450
OnePlus3 + On-Guard Plus 24 (2 years protection similar to Passport 2.0): $399 + $80 = $479.
But yeah.. not that I was going to buy that extra warranty for the OP3. So I get your point.

Coming from the 10, a lot of the Axon 7s features really struck a chord with me, like the dual FFS, and their insane attention to detail when it comes to headphone audio.
However, aside from that I can think of like 0 reason to pick it over the 10 or the OP3. Why am I going to OP3/7 after owning a 10? Great question. I just have an obsession with trying new phones. Maybe an addiction.
Not sure either will stay, but I love trying them all.

There is also the ZUK Z2 Pro which has a 5.2" Full HD screen.

Last time I took a look at the ZTE Axon 7 this was what I learned:
- ZTE = active in USA (outside their home markets), Passport 2.0 program applies to USA (afaik), ZTE is looking to expand their activity in EU but so far they don't even really have an active EU site (again afaik).
- I have contacted ZTE about EU availability, they did "not know anything" at the time, ZTE UK even tweeted Q4 release in UK (in 4 months maybe the new nexus is the new star).
twitter.com/ZTE_UK/status/743094792049987584
- The 'normal' Axon 7 has huge top/bottom bezels, the premium (6GB version, touch force, wood inlay, capacitive buttons on the bottom) is again no information on if it would launch in USA/EMEA markets (maybe China only). I was very interested in the premium for a short time but I have serious doubts they won't put a 500+ $/€ price tag on it, which blows past my price point for a "Chinese Brand" phone.
Pretty much the same applies to the Zuk Z2 Pro which is only available in EU region through import (so far) and that raises the price as well.
Now all this was last week, maybe fresh info points to other availability/launch dates.
tl:dr: For USA Axon7 is a OP3 contender, for EU we'll have to wait (for months possibly).

I've tried ZTE in the past, non of the ZTE devices I've owned have ever received updates or timely ones, and the XDA community for these devices just doesn't exist. My dad's Alcatel phone recently died (another garbage brand), and I decided to get him ZTE phone. I knew that I shouldn't have, and I was right, the capacitive keys just stopped working on it, and my dad is currently using it without them until I get him a better phone... Just avoid the following brands BLU, Alcatel, ZTE, ASUS (for smartphones), and the myriad of cheap Chinese brands out there. Either the XDA community will not exist, and/or they do not support their devices, and/or the hardware quality control is piss poor. The only Chinese brands I trust are Oneplus, Xiaomi, and Huawei.

You actually trust xiaomi? The Mi5 is the most flimsy phone I have ever felt lmao...
I should tell you. This phone was given to me for development purposes. 1st time in the pocket... Cracked screen
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TheDriller said:
You actually trust xiaomi? The Mi5 is the most flimsy phone I have ever felt lmao...
I should tell you. This phone was given to me for development purposes. 1st time in the pocket... Cracked screen
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The only Chinese branded smartphones I've owned from the brands I recommended have been the OPO and the 6P. To this day both of those stand as the only two smartphones that I call the best I've ever had. As far as Xiaomi goes, I've been very happy with their Yi action cam and the random home electronic devices, trinkets, and accessories I've bought from them. Hell, I even use their huge mouse and keyboard pads on my gaming rig now. I've heard many good things about their smartphones, but I trust you in your assessment of them, smartphones are a lot harder to pull off.
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Awesome. Thanks for the feedback!
Guess I'm going to wait a bit longer for the release announcement, but as it looks now, the OP3 looks like the better choice when you're in the EU.

I had to think about aswell and my choice ist the axon 7. Better Display, Better Sound and Better camera. It has am mircosd Slot. Look at this Video. http://youtu.be/anmqPsVYeN0/
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I think a big determining factor for me is well the zte axon 7 be be rootable? We know the one plus 3 will be but many of other zte phones weren't rootable.
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I was on the fringe between buying op3 or waiting for the axon 7. I decided on the op3 for two reasons. , Capacitive buttons, 6gb ram and dev support. OK 3 reasons. I am French American and travel to France a lot. I looked the ZTE for the front speakers and full Eu and USA LTE bands. But i decided on the op3. Excited to receive it.

My reason for OP3 was minimal bloatware, and presece of google services. Now this is kinda something you better dont expect right out of the box with the chinese phones. You can install google services, yes, but there might be some issues here and there. The Axon7 is a beast. But wheb you look at Axon Elite, which is sold for $200 and has not that great support well...
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My reason for OP3 was minimal bloatware, and presece of google services. Now this is kinda something you better dont expect right out of the box with the chinese phones. You can install google services, yes, but there might be some issues here and there. The Axon7 is a beast. But wheb you look at Axon Elite, which is sold for $200 and has not that great support well...
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The axon 7 has google service..
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one huge PRO for the OP3 is OxygenOS, which is near stock vs the touchwize-like modifications on the ZTE Axon

Pro's:
- Really need 2k display ? (Google Daydream also applys for thr Oneplus 3)
- Micro SdCard is for Musik&Pictures&Videos etc. If you have a lot okay (64gb modell). But 64Gb is enougth imo
- More Battery doesn't mean better batterylife (+2K display uses more)
I'll recommend you the OnePlus 3 after using it for a Month.
Pro's for the OnePlus 3:
- Really easy unlocking bootloader (one fastboot command) + warrenty
- Great Dev Community
- Great Stock OS
- Rocking Fingerprintsensor
(- I like the Design more, it just looks more premium imo )
- really big Pro is DASH Charge
OnePlus 3 - OP3Lite | systemless root | xposed v86 ?

I have both and right now, I'd have to say unless you need a SLIGHTLY better camera, or stronger cell reception then your better off with the Axon 7. Speaker, DAC, screen, build and battery are all better on the Axon. in places im seeing signals of -120 to -123db on my Axon, the OnePlus is at -116 to 118. Even with that said, the Axon still takes the win on battery life.

Redmi Note 5 Pro (4gb) or Zenfone Max Pro M1 (6gb) ?

Been pretty confused as to which one to go for since the day the 6gb version of max pro m1 was announced. Already have a redmi phone and it seems filled with bloatware, which is a bit annoying. Also, dont like the MIUI, but have seen some reports of Asus after sales support being very bad and despite the 5000 mah battery the phone lasting a bit less than RN5P.Is this true? The anti rollback also seems like a small issue now on the RN5P. Also how will the development of roms and recoveries be for both the devices ?

As far as I am concerned ARP is an issue if you switch between MIUI roms. Custom roms don't have a firmware included (that's why developers say flash Specific_firmware.zip because they wrap their roms around them.) MIUI 10 is a beta so no it's highly unlikley they get shipped with ARB protection v.4 (always double check your device with fastboot getvar anti)
Long story short: you can flash/mod your device and make it look like stock Android in no time. It has a great & huge community. Even if you are on ARB v.4 (which is giving people headache because they flash MIUI with ARB v.3) you won't have a problem installing a custom rom (which is the important point here): Nobody likes MIUI, everyone wants stock!
Regarding the Asus Zenphone max pro m1 vs xiaomi camera: for an average user they are pretty much equal, however the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro camera performs slightly better (according to side by side comparisons).
4gb RAM vs 6gb RAM doesn't really matter to be honest. It's like having 16gb vs 8gb of RAM in a gaming PC: it doesn't matter for your daily purpose.
Both of the devices have a very good XDA community and custom rom support, again no problem modding both of these devices.
Conclusion: the only place I've found the asus phone was Aliexpress and yeah it's a bit more expansive (~260€) sure you have 6gb of RAM, meanwhile the RN5P is ~190-200€
I think you should go with the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro, again you have nothing to worry about in terms of price/performance the best one until ~400€ in all categories.
If you have a bit more money to spend I would recommend the OnePlus_6 (~500€) it's a beast.
Additional plus point for the xiaomi redmi note 5 pro (+ OnePlus and other high end devices) are the MOFI cases. Don't forget a tempered glass and you are good2go. Cheers, I hope I could have helped a bit

Asus is more expensive.
Xiaomi has better community, more roms and better support.
Arb is not a decision factor at all.
I do not remember well but in some review i watched, there was some little bugs in asus. As well as in rn5 lol).
6gb will NOT give you anything, in need of perfomance comparison you must get real testing side by side, and results can change with software updates.
In that review i watched, there was points score at the end, and both phones got equal score. I do not fully believe to reviewers, but it was looking kinda objective. Just some features are better in rn5, other better in asus.
Personally at first I would compare the software, size of community, custom roms amount, then camera shots, and then perfomance.

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4gb RAM vs 6gb RAM doesn't really matter to be honest. It's like having 16gb vs 8gb of RAM in a gaming PC: it doesn't matter for your daily purpose.
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I should have mentioned being from india where there is improvements in both the primary and secondary cameras for the 6 gb version of the max pro m1.
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Conclusion: the only place I've found the asus phone was Aliexpress and yeah it's a bit more expansive (~260€) sure you have 6gb of RAM, meanwhile the RN5P is ~190-200€
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In india, its exactly the same price for both the phones which is ~ 190€.
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If you have a bit more money to spend I would recommend the OnePlus_6 (~500€) it's a beast.
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Oh man, believe me this is a no brainer for everyone, but its almost double that of my budget. That being said if I ever have the budget for a Premium phone I am going for whatever version of OnePlus would be available that year.
Your reply was very helpful, thanks man ...

Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.

MarvinMe said:
Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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I was mentioning the 6gb version of the zenfone cause the cameras on it has been improved to 16 mp for both the primary and secondary from the previous 13 mp and 8 mp for the 3 & 4 gb versions of the phone. I just thought that the global version for this phone would be a little different like the MI 6X and the MI A2 (which are essentially the same but with minute differences). It might have come out wrong. I wasnt being sarcastic at all and your answer was actually very helpful.

These type of questions should be asked in Device suggestion thread.. i dont understand why people create different thread for same question

What is this arrogance about???!!!
MarvinMe said:
Well, maybe not everyone is from India? However I don't understand your statment regarding "Indians advancement of technology regarding cameras/6gb RAM". There are camera comparisons of these phones, watch them and then reply plz I don't care, the end product has to speak for itself!
To be honest ~1/2 years ago I had a phone with 2gb RAM, 16gb ROM and I didn't have any problems at all, so I don't see any problem here.
A lot of people actually think they don't need an expansive phone because they look at Apple and Samsung or let it be Google (which all are around 1k). A lot of people are simply not aware of that.
One hint: leave the sarcasm be, it should be a friendly open minded international community and not something corrupted twisted around india full of sarcasm and hatred with people only complaining about others and not even appreciate the time and effort.
Do you have an idea how often I have seen the question? Doesn't matter I always take my time to tell my opinion.
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Who are you? How much help have you provided to any community?? If any, what do you want from any of us(who are also in the same community of XDA,specially from Indians) in return??? How dare you to complain against a race or a nation like that?? You are one of the dumbest one to be seen in XDA's history and you are really lucky that the questioner(5tunter) was really humble to ignore your arrogant and sarcastic reply.
Now read out and try to follow what he was trying to mean to you..
RN5P 4gb/64 and AZM1 6gb/64 both are available in India with exactly same price i.e. INR 14,999 (~ 190€.) So we are not dumb enough to buy it from AliExpress by paying much more price. You are not from India that is your problem, or are you asking us to move to your place and buy the same phone from AliExpress?? So, as both of them available at exact same price now it's really hard to decide which one to buy as previously RN5P was quite better in terms of overall offerings and particularly in Camera department compared to AZMPM1's 4gb variant. But Asus has come a long way and upped their offering with the 6gb variant with a newer and better camera setup which performs as good as RN5P( as you referring to lots of comparison available on YouTube) and surprisingly with same tag of ~ 190€ compared to 4gb RN5P ( He dosn't have to pay ~ 260€ like you). Also there are so many other aspects of both the phone but in each and every comparison they are not far superior or inferior from each other. So it's really hard to decide and that's why so many of buyers asking for the final opinion which is more hard to find from any available comparison.
If you can help him to decide that is fine If not then also that is fine but why trolling someone who doesn't want to buy(but really wish to have the money to buy it when his budget allows him to) a phone what costs more than double i.e. INR 34,999.00(~500€) . If every one can afford OP6 then what's the point having RN5P or AZMPM1 in market!!! Or we have to mortgage our property or savings to get OP6, as you are liking it very much!!!
And please try to avoid these kind of words in future like "sarcasm and hatred", when no one provoking you to use it and otherwise humble to you.

I can understand your confusion, as i am in that situation myself. I currently own Redmi Note 5 Pro (4+64 black) running AEX rom without any issues but i was eagerly waiting for the 6gb variant of Zenfone Max Pro as i am planning to switch to that and from my perspective let me tell you why:
Pros of Zenfone Max Pro(6gb):
1. More Ram (only helpful if you are a intense user)
2. dedicated sd card slot (absolutely need it)
3. RGB notification led (unlike white led crap on RN5P).
4. Stock android (for those who does not like miui and dont wanna root and all)
5. Improved cameras
6. Battery (not a big difference over RN5P though).
7. Slightly better loudspeaker performance
8. Price!
Apart from this performance, display and appearance is not much different. So yeah choice is yours. I'll personally go for Asus than RN5P for 15k!

This phone vs Asus ROG Phone 2

What do you guys think? I am leaning towards ROG Phone 2

ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.

aoaleman said:
ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.
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I don't mind missing VoLTE mad WiFi calling .. I am just excited about that 120hz display and that battery

90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.

I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/

dladz said:
90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.
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I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus

dudeperfect said:
I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/

Same Confusion
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/
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Same confusion here.
I really like both the phones but feel that ROG II is a lot better on paper than the 7T, and since the price is the same, why not buy it. But 2 concerns make me want to buy the 7T over ROG II. Those are:
1. Overall UI experience (7T has to be definitely better, I assume, since they've placed extra effort on Design and the smoothness as overall, and also maybe because ROG II has just stock Android 9 UI [from ZenFone 6z] without any optimization)
2. Custom Dev support (which am pretty sure is where 7T will shine, but for now am less concerned about it because of HDR and any other such features that will be rendered useless once the phone is bootloader-unlocked)
3. After-Sales Service (again OnePlus might be a definite win, but only because I don't know of the current situation with the ASUS after-sales service, if someone can enlighten me, please!!)
But there are more reasons to buy ROG Phone II over 7T:
1. 120Hz Display w/240Hz Touch Response (although some user was reporting that he/she was able to see some flickering or graininess with the 120Hz RR, none of the Youtubers reviews mentioned any such thing so might be a false-positive, MKBHD though pointed out that the screen would light up a bit when trying to fingerprint unlock)
2. Headphone jack w/Hi-Res Audio output
3. Front-facing dual speaker with the NXP Amplifiers (They are really good from all the reviews that I've watched)
4. 6000mAh battery (just massive and a kind of a must nowadays, I like that they didn't try to compromise at all)
I have been into Android Rooting etc. ever since I got my Xperia U (my 1st ever Android phone) and have been into it till now. Earlier I would just get my new phone, dig into XDA forums and start following the bootloader unlocking process and rooting my phone if it was available. Heck, I rooted my HTC One M8 and OnePlus 3T on day 1/2.
Please provide some inputs if anybody has any recent experience with Asus Mobile Service Centres

ram4ufriends said:
I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus
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It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.

dladz said:
It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.
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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything

When an update from Asus comes, it resolves 5 and adds 6 issues.
#Fact
#Livedit

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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything
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Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.

dladz said:
Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.
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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.

If someone is really interested in gaming and undying battery back up he should have no 2nd thought about going with rog 2. I am oneplus fan but i miss two things in my op7t that rog 2 has, 6000 mah battery and headphone jack, specially the bigger battery.

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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/themes/playing-3-classic-fps-pc-games-htc-10-t3606762
Here u go mate.
Lol this was the HTC 10 so it's been a while.
I think once you get one of these up and running you'll want to experiment with keyboard and mouse especially for the likes of quake arena as you'll be getting dragged quite a lot

Question is the OnePlus 9pro still Worth getting

im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice

If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.

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If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro

As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...

Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.

The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!

In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.

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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice

RumRunner19 said:
Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.

If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.

cultofluna said:
DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?

vangry2020 said:
If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose

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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.

vangry2020 said:
Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.

I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.