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Hello
I've been considering purchasing the Asian Variant made in Taiwan for use within Australia.
Is there any difference to this version vs any other version sold?
Is it compatible for use in Australia.
Thank you for your input.
Aussie
aussie1234 said:
Hello
I've been considering purchasing the Asian Variant made in Taiwan for use within Australia.
Is there any difference to this version vs any other version sold?
Is it compatible for use in Australia.
Thank you for your input.
Aussie
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you can definitely use the asian variant in australia.
hcazzz said:
you can definitely use the asian variant in australia.
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which carrier? on vodafone you should be alright.
Just check it has LTE. Otherwise, it'll be fine.
I apologize for my ignorance but I figured someone with more experience could assist. I know there are specific models for the NA and Euro version but there are overlapping bands. Think it'll work in perhaps...Croatia if I were to be specific?
I was able to use my unlocked USA model OP1 in the UK, France, Germany, Austria, and Belgium with no issues so the OP3 should be fine for global use too.
What specific frequency bands are you looking for on 3G or 4G/LTE in Croatia?
it wont be a issue to use it, just will lack in some frequencies/bands which ultimately give it poorer reception and speeds
on previous oneplus one and oneplus 2, there was ways of unlocked further lte bands on the usa variant, as they all have the same processor, im sure this will be the case again, if anyone knows how ? please advise
cheers
use this site to check http://willmyphonework.net/
Hi there,
Looking at Google Pixels page one can see that there is two versions of the product: NA and RoW.
Question is: is there any chance of buying a RoW version in US? Has anyone ever managed to buy the past Nexus International Versions in US before?
Thanks all and regards
Took me a few seconds to figure out what RoW means. I'd like to know this too.
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
Sent from my LG-H818 using Tapatalk
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Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
Abra_Cadabra said:
Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
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To my understanding of supported LTE, UMTS, and GSM frequencies both Pixel Variants will work in UAE but Carrier Aggregation will probably not work. Not sure if the operators in the UAE support CA (yet) but if/ when they do this will probably something that wouldn't work on the NA variant. The only combination supported by the device for UAE bands is B7+B7, which may or may not work.
Whether this is a deal breaker or not is up to you to decide.
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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pauleandro said:
Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA Labs
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
mazroui said:
Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Of course, no problem. I'll let you know if I find anything.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA Labs
I am also looking at this and cannot understand the CA limitations on the US device. Unless I am mistaken the Snapdragon X12 modem supports all combinations of supported frequencies. Yet the phones have different combinations for some reason. I do not know if Google is limiting this via software. Any thoughts?
scandalousk said:
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
Lots of overlap
There appears to be quite significant overlap, with the NA version supporting all or almost all LTE bands in most European countries and in many non-European countries as well (including all LTE bands in UAE):
NA version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GPQkJ/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-td-lte-na-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
RoW version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/vWPw8/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-global-td-lte-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
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Hmm... just noticed that a few European countries that FrequencyCheck lists the NA version as having only partial LTE coverage for are because the site considers the NA version not to support band 8. But, according to Google's own spec page (madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ > Telephony), both the NA and RoW versions support B8. No idea if FrequencyCheck is a generally reliable source of info, as I just discovered the site a few minutes ago. I hope Google's listing for their own phone is correct, but the fact that B8 isn't included anywhere in the LTE 2xCA and 3xCA breakdowns for the NA version as it is for the RoW version makes me wonder...
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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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sirda said:
How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
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Yes, the main European LTE bands are 3, 7 and 20, so it doesn't matter which version you have as both support all these bands. scandalousk is wrong.
Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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It'll support LTE, but won't support LTE Carrier Aggregation. LTE-Advanced is more than just Carrier Aggregation.
Hi, I'm from South America, so, my only option to get this device is to buy one from china sellers. But I'm confused because every page like willmydevicework (I don't trust this so much), gsmarena and devicespecifications.com show different information on LTE Band Support.
For example, in willmydevicework, none of the variants (p2a42 and p2c72) supports B4 AWS LTE (1700/2100) (The band that i need in my carrier)
On the other side, in gsmarena and devicespecifications, all the variants, no matter if is p2a42 or p2c72 and 32 o 64gb storage, supports that band.
From sellers, the Aliexpress store "Eternal Team" show full band support on p2c72 model: FDD Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
Other seller, Fantacy, says that his p2c72 supports only LTE FDD B1/B3/B7.
And finally, tinydeal and Aliexpress "Lenovo authorized store", shows that his 64gb model supports FDD-LTE B1, B3, B4, B7, B8.
So, which should I trust? I'm interested only if the phone supports B4, asking for advice if someone of south america or other america's countries have the device and working on his 4G LTE carrier with B4 AWS.
Thanks in advance.
Ger$$on said:
Hi, I'm from South America, so, my only option to get this device is to buy one from china sellers. But I'm confused because every page like willmydevicework (I don't trust this so much), gsmarena and devicespecifications.com show different information on LTE Band Support.
For example, in willmydevicework, none of the variants (p2a42 and p2c72) supports B4 AWS LTE (1700/2100) (The band that i need in my carrier)
On the other side, in gsmarena and devicespecifications, all the variants, no matter if is p2a42 or p2c72 and 32 o 64gb storage, supports that band.
From sellers, the Aliexpress store "Eternal Team" show full band support on p2c72 model: FDD Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
Other seller, Fantacy, says that his p2c72 supports only LTE FDD B1/B3/B7.
And finally, tinydeal and Aliexpress "Lenovo authorized store", shows that his 64gb model supports FDD-LTE B1, B3, B4, B7, B8.
So, which should I trust? I'm interested only if the phone supports B4, asking for advice if someone of south america or other america's countries have the device and working on his 4G LTE carrier with B4 AWS.
Thanks in advance.
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Am having the same issues like you, I want to buy from Nigeria ?? but a feed up with the inconclusive description on Aliexpress. Am looking to get the model that has LTE band 28 but non of the descriptions contain band 28 now.
Please can anyone who is already using this phone confirm the LTE bands?
Are there different hardwares/modems for p2?
Please I need urgent reply
Bolumstar said:
Am having the same issues like you, I want to buy from Nigeria but a feed up with the inconclusive description on Aliexpress. Am looking to get the model that has LTE band 28 but non of the descriptions contain band 28 now.
Please can anyone who is already using this phone confirm the LTE bands?
Are there different hardwares/modems for p2?
Please I need urgent reply
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From my experience. You can't trust any of the chinese stores with listing proper frequency's.
They even list the wrong frequency's to catch you into buying the device in question.
I highly recommend following site to check for frequency support:
Look at supported cellular networks!
P2a42 = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11116&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2a42_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 32GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10515&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 64GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10930&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_64gb
celoxocis said:
From my experience. You can't trust any of the chinese stores with listing proper frequency's.
They even list the wrong frequency's to catch you into buying the device in question.
I highly recommend following site to check for frequency support:
Look at supported cellular networks!
P2a42 = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11116&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2a42_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 32GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10515&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 64GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10930&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_64gb
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Thanks for clarifying me mate, Aliexpress guys are selling the P2c72 with 4G/64G but here is the issue as I also attached, they are flashing the ROM for P2a42 in it because of play store, multi language and to sell globally but the problem is,
If you they flash P2c42 ROM on P2c72, will all the LTE band work?
Is there any hardware difference between P2c72 and P2a42?
Or is it just a modem difference, same hardware?
Bolumstar said:
Thanks for clarifying me mate, Aliexpress guys are selling the P2c72 with 4G/64G but here is the issue as I also attached, they are flashing the ROM for P2a42 in it because of play store, multi language and to sell globally but the problem is,
If you they flash P2c42 ROM on P2c72, will all the LTE band work?
Is there any hardware difference between P2c72 and P2a42?
Or is it just a modem difference, same hardware?
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No the LTE bands will stay the same. Its hardware limited.
What they do is. Use the available information here from XDA how to flash the P2a42 Firmware on the P2c72.
Usually they just flash the system.img and the boot stack. You will have P2a42 Userinterface in multilingual just like an P2a42 but will still have the same LTE bands like the P2c72.
The reason behind it.
The P2c72 is sold in their homecountry (usually china) for way cheaper than the P2a42 in the western market
and they sell the modified P2c72 for a higher prices on the international market, which is still cheaper tham the P2a42 price.
By tricking the customer into listing all LTE frequency and confusing them to have "P2a42" feature. They fall for the trap.
Always trust the listing at pdadb.net
Thanks mate, the seller told me no after I put forth the question to him without any explanation but I guess this answers it.
Really need a good mid range with LTE Band 28 that ships to Nigeria.
My target was Redmi note 3 special edition but All Aliexpress stores shipping to Nigeria is out of stock. Sadly enough, they still ship to Spain.
Bolumstar said:
Thanks mate, the seller told me no after I put forth the question to him without any explanation but I guess this answers it.
Really need a good mid range with LTE Band 28 that ships to Nigeria.
My target was Redmi note 3 special edition but All Aliexpress stores shipping to Nigeria is out of stock. Sadly enough, they still ship to Spain.
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You can use pdadb to filter for phones by bands and other features. I use that to start my research. Stick with Snapdragon based devices if you want community freedom.
Avoid Oppo phones at all costs. They don't release kernel sources and removed fastboot and any way of unlocking the bootloader.
Preferably stick with a brand that:
1. Snapdragon based phones
2. Releases kernel Sources
3. Allows for Bootloader unlocking
4. Has a community on XDA
Such as Xiaomi, Motorola, Lenovo, etc just to name a few. In not any particular order.
celoxocis said:
No the LTE bands will stay the same. Its hardware limited.
What they do is. Use the available information here from XDA how to flash the P2a42 Firmware on the P2c72.
Usually they just flash the system.img and the boot stack. You will have P2a42 Userinterface in multilingual just like an P2a42 but will still have the same LTE bands like the P2c72.
The reason behind it.
The P2c72 is sold in their homecountry (usually china) for way cheaper than the P2a42 in the western market
and they sell the modified P2c72 for a higher prices on the international market, which is still cheaper tham the P2a42 price.
By tricking the customer into listing all LTE frequency and confusing them to have "P2a42" feature. They fall for the trap.
Always trust the listing at pdadb.net
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One thing for sure that LTE does work fine on my P2c72 towards the american LTE bands.
Wmateria said:
One thing for sure that LTE does work fine on my P2c72 towards the american LTE bands.
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So, you have LTE band 4 with your carrier and your using it on your Chinese p2c72?
Hi, i'm about to buy online an S20FE 5g (preferably an 8GB), and i was wondering about the differences between different versions; i don't know what should i buy to use in Europe.
I could not find a comprehensive list, so i thought i could just post what i know; the more info you can share, the most complete the list will be.
SM-G781B (International)
SM-G781U (USA)
operator locked, should not buy for Europe
SM-G781U1 (USA Unlocked)
not a real dual sim (as stated here)
SM-G781W (Canada)
SM-G7810 (China, Hong Kong)
for this version there's a 8/128 model (is it good to use in Europe? they seems to come at a cheap price)
SM-G781N (Korea)
SM-G781V (Verizon)
Also, the /DS stands for "dual-sim hybrid tray" i suppose, based on this evidence
Based on this, frequencies support should be the same for models SM-G781B (International), SM-G781N (Korea), SM-G781U (USA), SM-G781V (Verizon):
GSM frequencies
850 900 1800 1900
Standard UMTS
850 900 1900 2100
Standard LTE
FDD LTE: 2600, 2100, 1900, 1800, 1700, 900, 850, 800, 700
TDD LTE: 2600, 2500, 2300, 1900
Standard 5G
FDD 5G: 1900, 1700, 850, 600
TDD 5G: 2500
The one listed on Bestbuy is SM-G781UZBMXAA. Can I use that outside of US, in Asia perhaps?
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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Got the same phone delivered since a day in the Netherlands. Works fine, every language possible to choose, works fine on the networks etc.
I'm just trying to find a way to flash a ROM with another CSC to try to enable THL ( Thailand CSC) as to make phone-recording possible. Seems not easy to get rid of the Hong Kong CSC.
Even with some 'CSC change tricks' I don't get any further than to choose for TGY as the only one in the list.
amazinged said:
Got the same phone delivered since a day in the Netherlands. Works fine, every language possible to choose, works fine on the networks etc.
I'm just trying to find a way to flash a ROM with another CSC to try to enable THL ( Thailand CSC) as to make phone-recording possible. Seems not easy to get rid of the Hong Kong CSC.
Even with some 'CSC change tricks' I don't get any further than to choose for TGY as the only one in the list.
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hello there i am from the uk i also want to buy this phone the SM-G7810 version. because this version is cheaper. what are the big differences i am missing between this and the international version . is it just the updates because updates i can wait and dont mind. is the SM-G7810 version worse ? how does it perform
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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hi i am from uk and want to buy SM-G7810 version . is this version ok ? more buggy or what is the differecne with international model
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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Do you can find 5g? i cant find 5g with g7810 in France.
SirDarknight said:
The one listed on Bestbuy is SM-G781UZBMXAA. Can I use that outside of US, in Asia perhaps?
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Make sure it's compatible with your carrier. Contact your carrier for assistance.
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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S20 FE 5G UW got Android 11 SM-G781V was released. Your device should have it alreday, visit settings and check updates.
hassanali11722 said:
hi i am from uk and want to buy SM-G7810 version . is this version ok ? more buggy or what is the differecne with international model
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No difference, just maybe LTE bands and per region code.
Niiha said:
Do you can find 5g? i cant find 5g with g7810 in France.
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The phone has 5G if it is a SM-G781U or SM-G781V
SamDungUser said:
The phone has 5G if it is a SM-G781U or SM-G781V
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G7810 is with 5G
Niiha said:
G7810 is with 5G
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OK so I guess SM-G781V, G7810, G781U are 5G Models. No confirmation seen about other variants.