adaptive brightness - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hi so I am coming from pixel 1 xl completely stock no unlocked bootloader or root. When I got the pie update the adaptive brightness picked up on my screen brightness preferences almost immediately within a day or two. I noticed with the 2 xl it's not really doing that. It likes to completely done my screen in low light no matter how many times I adjust it. Is this a common thing with this phone?

mojorisin7178 said:
Hi so I am coming from pixel 1 xl completely stock no unlocked bootloader or root. When I got the pie update the adaptive brightness picked up on my screen brightness preferences almost immediately within a day or two. I noticed with the 2 xl it's not really doing that. It likes to completely done my screen in low light no matter how many times I adjust it. Is this a common thing with this phone?
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You can try resetting Adaptive Brightness:
https://www.techmesto.com/reset-adaptive-brightness-data-on-android-9-pie/
Personally I "calibrate" my adaptive brightness without needing to reset it by going into a pitch black room and setting the minimum brightness. After that it's bright enough outside, indoors, and dark enough in low light environments. Only time I've ever had to actually reset it was when it stopped adjusting.
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EeZeEpEe said:
You can try resetting Adaptive Brightness:
https://www.techmesto.com/reset-adaptive-brightness-data-on-android-9-pie/
Personally I "calibrate" my adaptive brightness without needing to reset it by going into a pitch black room and setting the minimum brightness. After that it's bright enough outside, indoors, and dark enough in low light environments. Only time I've ever had to actually reset it was when it stopped adjusting.
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Thanks for the info

mojorisin7178 said:
Thanks for the info
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Any update? Things working like they should now?
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EeZeEpEe said:
Any update? Things working like they should now?
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Oh yes all is good now. Thank you for your help.

mojorisin7178 said:
Oh yes all is good now. Thank you for your help.
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Okay great. [emoji1360]
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Auto Brightness Jerky

Hi all,
I just gotten this phone today. I noticed the auto brightness transistion is not smooth but rather jerky and on my set it will brighten the screen and then lower the brightness quite often even though the lighting in the room did not change. Just wondering if I got a lemon set.
Newbie123 said:
Hi all,
I just gotten this phone today. I noticed the auto brightness transistion is not smooth but rather jerky and on my set it will brighten the screen and then lower the brightness quite often even though the lighting in the room did not change. Just wondering if I got a lemon set.
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I see the same thing. I hope it's not defective.
Mine does the same thing. Ended up turning the feature off, and leaving the brightness at about 50%
mine to i think it's a software issue
andygold said:
Mine does the same thing. Ended up turning the feature off, and leaving the brightness at about 50%
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Exactly What I did. I used to have the face recognition to keep screen on and that was really annoying with the screen dimming every 15 seconds but with the brightness. Set at 50 I can still see the screen pretty well in sunlight.
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thedudex said:
Exactly What I did. I used to have the face recognition to keep screen on and that was really annoying with the screen dimming every 15 seconds but with the brightness. Set at 50 I can still see the screen pretty well in sunlight.
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Coming from 2.5 months of HTC One, I just got this phone yesterday! Awesome phone amid some lags here and there at times. I hope that the next update of Android 4.2.2 will iron out those issue.
Yes, Since Android 4.1, the Autobrightness is kind of "too extreme" to be practical especially the dimming of backlight in low light. I have also set it to 52% manual.

Android P what have they done with the brightness?

Just installed P and now previous brightness level of 63 it's so dim? I have to have it almost on 90% brightness now, why have they messed with this, it was fine as it was
Ady1976 said:
Just installed P and now previous brightness level of 63 it's so dim? I have to have it almost on 90% brightness now, why have they messed with this, it was fine as it was
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Same for me. WTF Google?
The actual brightness is the same, they just changed how the slider works. The first half moved it fast, last half moved it slower. Now the slider is more uniform.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...c-brightness-slider-introduced-android-p-dp3/
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It's definitely not smooth across the entire range, all my brightness is almost all the last 10% and actually a pain to set properly, it's worse for me.
That's more accurate because in bright indoor lighting or outside it's going to be towards the end of the scale. Dim indoor lighting I'm currently at 43%. And in pitch black it goes to 0%. I pretty much never touch my slider anymore after a couple adjustments. Don't get caught up on the percentages. I would be willing to bet that with Oreo at 40% and Pie at 90% the lumens output of the screen was the same.
Ady1976 said:
It's definitely not smooth across the entire range, all my brightness is almost all the last 10% and actually a pain to set properly, it's worse for me.
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EeZeEpEe said:
That's more accurate because in bright indoor lighting or outside it's going to be towards the end of the scale. Dim indoor lighting I'm currently at 43%. And in pitch black it goes to 0%. I pretty much never touch my slider anymore after a couple adjustments. Don't get caught up on the percentages. I would be willing to bet that with Oreo at 40% and Pie at 90% the lumens output of the screen was the same.
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Yeah I don't touch mine once it is setup generally but it's definitely not even throughout the scale, only gets really bright from like 85% onwards, just seems odd the real brightness is so high up, makes for fine tuning a bit difficult.
The screen has been rated a minimum of 1.78 nits and a maximum of 496 so if it truly is linear now, 50% is something like only 247 which isn't that bright at all.
Ady1976 said:
Yeah I don't touch mine once it is setup generally but it's definitely not even throughout the scale, only gets really bright from like 85% onwards, just seems odd the real brightness is so high up, makes for fine tuning a bit difficult.
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So much for AI on adaptive brightness, it's rubbish, and why do Google try to fix things that aren't broken, who needs AI for adjusting a backlight? Seems nothing more than just being able to market the phone as having AI! Never had an issue on Oreo, had it set at 25% with adaptive brightness and it was always the correct brightness wherever I was, which shouldn't be difficult given it's got a sensor to read the light levels.
Now since Pie, last night I turned my phone on in the dark and was blinded by a bright display (Oreo it would have been at it's lowest level in the dark), so turned the brightness down, turned it again later and the same thing, way too bright, and again this morning in a fairly dark room the same thing, far too bright, so I turn it down again. How long will it take to learn? The old method it was tamed immediately, now I'm constantly fiddling with the brightness, how is that progress!
Is there an option to go back to the old method?
Wish I hadn't bothered upgrading, just another year with an Android update with changes for changes sake.
Regards
Phil
PhilipL said:
Seems nothing more than just being able to market the phone as having AI!
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Totally agree on this. Adaptive battery and adaptive battery are almost non-sense. Only something cool to brand the item.
And Pixel Visual Core is just something super-expensive to make Whatsapp, Facebook and Twitter cameras use HDR+. I'd rather pay something less and not having this feature that is probably expensive (or modifies the perception of the Pixel 2 as super-new and mega futuristic). Also, I've got the feeling they won't use it for Pixel 3 or 4.
Moto X1 was the last to use more CPUs to optimize the phone, before Qualcomm introduced more chips.
Hi
For any one having this issue please report this from your device at Settings > System > About Phone, the more people that flag it the more likely it will get fixed.
For me, I hate these updates that break simple basic functionality and overall add nothing extra to what we had with Oreo. Google really need to test these things properly and stop trying to fix things that simply are not broken!
Regards
Phil
PhilipL said:
Hi
For any one having this issue please report this from your device at Settings > System > About Phone, the more people that flag it the more likely it will get fixed.
For me, I hate these updates that break simple basic functionality and overall add nothing extra to what we had with Oreo. Google really need to test these things properly and stop trying to fix things that simply are not broken!
Regards
Phil
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Already reported, i shouldn't have to have my phone on 90% to be the same as what it was on 63%

Notification LED?

Anyone see any indication as to whether the 3 XL has a RGB notification LED?
I'd like to know too. Seems like there is no mention anywhere.
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Curious myself, I'll post if I hear anything.
Someone mentioned on Reddit that there was no LED this time
NPuter said:
RGB notification LED?
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obsanity said:
no mention
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Chronzy said:
Curious
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Pixel 3 / 3 XL have no notification LEDs.
Notch, glass back, no headphone jack, bigger screen with more pixels but smaller battery and now no notification LED? It looks worse and worse.
I would have said the same thing a few months ago but ever since I turned it off and just used the AOD for notifications I won't miss it.
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Kisakuku said:
Pixel 3 / 3 XL have no notification LEDs.
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Ugh. I was hoping they put it under one of the speaker grilles again. So I guess this is the first Google Nexus/Pixel without one? I suppose we should have known this was coming with AOD. I was actually surprised the pixel 2 kept it, and it got the best one IMO since the Nexus One.
obsanity said:
I would have said the same thing a few months ago but ever since I turned it off and just used the AOD for notifications I won't miss it.
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I thought I'd find it less useful with AOD display as well, but do not find that the case. Dim monochrome notification icons are definitely not as obvious as a colored notification LED which can be seen with a passing glance.
What would be cool is if a "notification LED" could be implemented into the AOD - i.e. a small clusters of pixels lit up at full brightness with color support. Wonder if that's technically possible.
This was a poor decision on Google's part... I may just keep my pixel XL 2 this time around... the notification LED is tech that does not need to disappear, so much easier to see you have a notification from across the room...
I didn't know my 2XL had one for ages. Why have it off by default?
Also wish it was more aggressive.
Tanquen said:
I didn't know my 2XL had one for ages. Why have it off by default?
Also wish it was more aggressive.
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They were weening people off the led notification with the P2XL....and promoting the use of the ambient display.
But like some said earlier....ambient display is dim.....there is no better way to glance from afar and know exactly what type notification came thru via the color of the flashing led. That cannot be beaten...I dont need to see and read the notification of the screen....just know I have one and what type it is.
Ambient display is only good for when you in arms reach of the phone to read the screen...at which point you may as well pick it up and look at the phone. It's almost pointless.
Well i guess is a personal thingy, mine is switched off since i got the phone, never use the led, my aod is always on, more than happy with it
misiokicio said:
Well i guess is a personal thingy, mine is switched off since i got the phone, never use the led, my aod is always on, more than happy with it
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It is a preference.....Im just saying hat good is a display if you cant read it. Most people cant read dimly lit text from across a room.
One thing I dont know is....does the text on the AOD shift positions so screen burn in doesn't occur?
bsg411 said:
It is a preference.....Im just saying hat good is a display if you cant read it. Most people cant read dimly lit text from across a room.
One thing I dont know is....does the text on the AOD shift positions so screen burn in doesn't occur?
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Haven't experienced any burn in... And myself i dont have a problem with "dimly" screen as my phone is always next to me or with me xd
misiokicio said:
Haven't experienced any burn in... And myself i dont have a problem with "dimly" screen as my phone is always next to me or with me xd
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I just googled it....the text moves one pixel at a time per minute.....so it will take about an hour to see the text make a significant move....but it does. This is good to know since the new phones dont have the LED.
I thought the same when I enabled aod but after almost a year since I enabled it there is no screen burn where the clock is. I use the display app with a gray color to check for that. The only burn in I see is the notification bar and a slight navigation bar but nothing in the aod area. So I am surprised about that because the differential aging does not work as I thought it would. So movement of pixels seems to be more important than what's on the screen.
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Pixel 3 XL Brightness Issue

Does anyone have any brightness issues? I just got my XL today and the brightness is very weak and I'm very disappointed. I uploaded a video onto Youtube so you can see the issue. Let me know....
https://youtu.be/pTjE4wi2Vc0
i'm not having any brightness issues at all.
freebee269 said:
i'm not having any brightness issues at all.
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but is it bright or just meh? That video with 50% brightness compared to the 5t has it really sucking on the Pixel. UrAvgConsumer also mentioned a few times that the brightness wasn't that great.
It looks bright even outdoors from online reviews I've seen.
minhtluu said:
Does anyone have any brightness issues? I just got my XL today and the brightness is very weak and I'm very disappointed in a 900 phone. I uploaded a video onto Youtube so you can see the issue. Let me know....
https://youtu.be/pTjE4wi2Vc0
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If not already, turn off adaptive brightness on the P3XL like it is on the 5T and compare again. If it is already off I'd like to see the setting in another vid..
The 2 XL was the same on Pie.. I had to set the brightness to 80% ... it's not a display problem it's software for sure..
cryppie said:
If not already, turn off adaptive brightness on the P3XL like it is on the 5T and compare again. If it is already off I'd like to see the setting in another vid..
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The adaptive brightness was definitely off. I was going to make another video but Google Support called me before I uploaded the video. They told me it was working as designed. I'm not going to argue with them. If they don't see an issue with it, they aren't going to fix it. I'm just going to return the phone.
I'm not one to spend a lot on phones, in the past I've owned the Nexus S, 4, 5, 6P, Oneplus One and 5T which were all reasonably priced phones. This was my first phone I decided to splurge on and I felt it wasn't worth the price I paid. Yes, the brightness isn't that big of a deal but for $969.68 I expect a perfect phone.
I hope the brightness issue is a non-issue for you folks.
NICEGYPT said:
The 2 XL was the same on Pie.. I had to set the brightness to 80% ... it's not a display problem it's software for sure..
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Was the brightness control more linear on Oreo?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/android-p-wth-brightness-t3825844
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...c-brightness-slider-introduced-android-p-dp3/
https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...ubt-about-display-brightness-android-pie.html
The slider values have changed from linear to log. No need to worry just move slider more to right and it will be just as bright as before.

[Q] Always on display

Hi
I want to ask is it safe to keep the always on display? My main concern is screen burn in. Can anyone provide an insight? I love the always on display but have turned off with the fear of screen burn in.
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100rabh7791 said:
Hi
I want to ask is it safe to keep the always on display? My main concern is screen burn in. Can anyone provide an insight? I love the always on display but have turned off with the fear of screen burn in.
Thanks
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It's not always on. If you cover the proximity sensor it turns off the always on display. So if in your pocket or face down (which I do to stop watching the time go slow) it will not burn in.
Also Google move the display so it's not constantly displaying is the exact same position all them time, see https://9to5google.com/2017/10/17/google-pixel-2-oled-burn-in-protection/
lywyn said:
It's not always on. If you cover the proximity sensor it turns off the always on display. So if in your pocket or face down (which I do to stop watching the time go slow) it will not burn in.
Also Google move the display so it's not constantly displaying is the exact same position all them time, see https://9to5google.com/2017/10/17/google-pixel-2-oled-burn-in-protection/
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Thanks for the link. It's good to know that pixels move. It feels safe after knowing the display is shifting constantly
100rabh7791 said:
Thanks for the link. It's good to know that pixels move. It feels safe after knowing the display is shifting constantly
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Yeah it's not as dramatic a shifting as Samsung does it but it does the job. Have had my phone since the month it was released but no AOD display burn in. The bottom though, does have a little but I just recently switched to Fluid Navigation so maybe it'll alleviate some of it
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EeZeEpEe said:
Yeah it's not as dramatic a shifting as Samsung does it but it does the job. Have my phone since the month it was released but no AOD display. The bottom though, does have a little but I just recently switched to Fluid Navigation so maybe it'll alleviate some of it
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Damn that's sad. The burn ins scare me. The phone is only 3 months old but yeah i want to take precautions. Been using the pie navigation so that should be fine i guess
100rabh7791 said:
Damn that's sad. The burn ins scare me. The phone is only 3 months old but yeah i want to take precautions. Been using the pie navigation so that should be fine i guess
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I've been using AOD since I got my P2XL 16 months ago. I have no screen burn in from it. It's safe to use.
100rabh7791 said:
Damn that's sad. The burn ins scare me. The phone is only 3 months old but yeah i want to take precautions. Been using the pie navigation so that should be fine i guess
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Whoops. I meant "No AOD display burn in" if that wasn't clear.
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Whoops. I meant "No AOD display burn in" if that wasn't clear.
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Oh okay. Thanks for clarification. I can use aod with peace now
xunholyx said:
I've been using AOD since I got my P2XL 16 months ago. I have no screen burn in from it. It's safe to use.
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Thanks for the info. I've only had it for 3 months. Will be using it now

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