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Camera app with potential - Camera VF-5

Guys,
I’ve just stumbled across a new camera app called Camera FV-5 on the play store. It might not be something for everyone, but if good support for the One X could be implemented – I think it has a lot of potential for people with a photographic background.
Would really like to know what people think before I contact the developer.
Here's the website:
http://www.camera.flavionet.com/
Bugsy

Here are a list of features (Copy/Pasted) from the Play Store description. I will mention that the RAW feature isn't RAW as such - it saves the final image in lossless PNG format instead of Jpeg.
• All photographic parameters are adjustable and always at hand: exposure compensation, ISO, light metering mode, focus mode, white balance and program mode.
• DSLR-like viewfinder display: see exposure time, aperture and stops display with EV and bracketing settings.
• Full fledged exposure bracketing: from 3 to 7 frames, unlimited stops spacing, plus custom EV shifting.
• Built-in intervalometer: make stunning timelapses (even bracketed/HDR timelapses) and time-controlled picture series.
• Program and Speed-priority modes.
• Long exposure support: take beautiful night photos and light trails with long exposure times up to 60 seconds*.
• JPEG as well as RAW (PNG**) image formats for lossless photo capturing, perfect for post-processing.
• EXIF and XMP sidecar metadata support.
• Self timer for delayed shooting.
• Autofocus, macro, touch-to-focus*** and infinity focus modes, plus a focus lock switch (AF-L).
• In background photo developing and processing allows a smooth, uninterrupted camera operation.

looks interesting will give it a go

Already a 6-page thread discussion on the App forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623721

ArmedandDangerous said:
Already a 6-page thread discussion on the App forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623721
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Sorry, I didn't see that.
Edit: Now I see why. I started my thread a couple of weeks or so before that thread was made

Since the thread is made, another that I use and is worth checking out is 'Shot Control' no PNG format but produces better reproduction of the scene in my opinion, particularly the colours and exposure.

But it is a camera app not a recording app correct?
I think the camera on One X is fine for images just the recording that needs to be improved.

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Since the thread is made, another that I use and is worth checking out is 'Shot Control' no PNG format but produces better reproduction of the scene in my opinion, particularly the colours and exposure.
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Thanks, I'll take a look.

For a quick comparison between the stock camera, FV-5, camera 360 and camera ICS, check out my quick review for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652642

I'm definitely going to check this out. The camera was the reason for me getting the HOX so i'll dive in.
Will report back shortly.

you should try lgCamera (lite in playstore and pro from the internet)
you'll get a photocamera and videorecorder
you get better photo's, 4,5mb instead of 1,5mb of HTC (less compression, better quality)
with videorecorder you can get smoother movies with nice sound,
- you can set bitrate till 100mbps, but I think 20mbps is enough (the SIII uses 17mbps for 1080p, htc uses 11mbps) so set it to 20mbps, for smoother movies
- record in stereo at max 320kbps with 48hz
- record in 3gp or mp4, but mp4 is better for the One X

[Q]LG G3 Slow-Motion Camera Quality

Hi, I tried the G3's camera and I'm really impressed by the splendid quality, untill I tried out the slow-motion feature. I know that there's this camera tweak that you have to flash or manually move the apk and stuff
(For those who are looking for a mod that improves 4k bitrate as well as the 1080p fps count: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778570) (Credit for this goes to the developer). But I'm wondering wether there is a camera mod that enables a higher resolution video/camera and bitrate for the slow-mo mode of the G3, right now it's set at 720p at 120fps, but when saved, the file seems only 120p, the fps is great but there's so many pixels and it's a shame for the awesome 4k screen that the G3 is packed with! (I'm not sure about the exact numbers though, could be false) Any help is greatly appreciated!:good:

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Hi, I tried the G3's camera and I'm really impressed by the splendid quality, untill I tried out the slow-motion feature. I know that there's this camera tweak that you have to flash or manually move the apk and stuff
(For those who are looking for a mod that improves 4k bitrate as well as the 1080p fps count: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778570) (Credit for this goes to the developer). But I'm wondering wether there is a camera mod that enables a higher resolution video/camera and bitrate for the slow-mo mode of the G3, right now it's set at 720p at 120fps, but when saved, the file seems only 120p, the fps is great but there's so many pixels and it's a shame for the awesome 4k screen that the G3 is packed with! (I'm not sure about the exact numbers though, could be false) Any help is greatly appreciated!:good:
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No there's not the drives will not allow to improve the slow mo

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No there's not the drives will not allow to improve the slow mo
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Ahh thats too bad ..
Thanks for your quick reply anyway!!:good:

960fps slow-mo could be nice

Guys I've just watched an amazing 960fps slow-mo video compilation which shows that you can actually capture some nice stuff and be creative despite the low quality 720p resolution of the Galaxy S9. I really hope they do 1080p 960fps in the Note 9 and improve the auto capture algorithms and I can see everybody shooting slow motion videos soon.
Here is the link if you are interested: https://youtu.be/gWZ6ePV0SpI

Lol it's pretty lonesome in here, nobody into 960fps videos?

I think the feature is pretty sweet. After tinkering with it and practicing few shots, I've been able to capture a few sweet golf shots or moments with my kids. One thing I came across was that if you don't have enough light to capture in super slow motion you can still use the regular slow motion which can be used in low light conditions.
To make this an available option go into your camera app > Settings > Scroll Down to Edit Camera modes > Rear Camera > Check Slow Motion.

Best video recording app for Redmi Note 7

So GCam is definitely the answer for getting the best photo quality out of this phone in almost any situation, but let's see how we can record the best possible video.
Btw, when you first try video recording with the Note 7 in low light, it's natural to be disappointed since you're comparing it to GCam's photo output in low light. GCam uses frame stacking and other techniques to remove noise, increase dynamic range and get details in both shadows and highlights as well as the rest of the image. To produce only one 12-megapixel frame, it uses anywhere from 3 to 15 frames and takes a few seconds to do the complex blending and computations to create a great low light photo. Without a much stronger SoC, ISP, a better sensor and more advanced processing algorithms, this is impossible to do while recording a video, as the phone is struggling to keep up with recording 30 8-megapixel frames (UHD) each second or 2-megapixel frames in case of 1080p. They've barely managed to get SD 660 to comfortably use real-time EIS at 1080p30, along with auto focusing, WB, exposure, noise reduction etc.
So, knowing that in low light this phone's video recording will never be great, let's focus on other aspects of its video recording. My only idea for improving low light video recording is to find an app that can use a high bitrate in order to avoid introducing additional noise and artifacts. This also applies to filming in daylight.
I'll start with some findings about the differences between the stock app, GCam and Open Camera when recording video.
STABILIZATION
As far as video stabilization goes, only stock camera's 1080p30 EIS properly uses gyro-EIS and that really is the most beautiful stabilization you'll get out of this phone. No wobbling or image distortion, it just softens the shakiness, as if the phone were on a gimbal.
1080p30 EIS in GCam – it's instantly noticeable that the viewfinder here is stabilized (whereas in the stock app it isn't). It appears to be using the gyroscope, but not in the same way the stock app does. Stabilization is OK, but not as smooth as in the stock app and wobbliness can be noticed occasionally, with more abrupt movement.
UHD EIS in GCam – better than no stabilization, but wobbliness on the edges tends to be obvious when there's a lot of movement.
1080p30 or UHD EIS in Open Camera – also a stabilized viewfinder, but the stabilization algorithm here is very wobbly, which is extremely noticeable in UHD, so try to hold the phone as stable as possible when recording in Open Camera. The highlight of Open Camera for the Note 7 is its front-facing camera UHD stabilized video recording. So far this is my only use case for Open Camera on this phone (plus testing).
If you like using 1080p60 because of its smoother panning and movement in general, here's a tip to stabilize 60 fps videos: shoot in 1080p60 without EIS in the stock app or another app (using a high bitrate when possible) and then stabilize the footage in Google Photos, which does a nice job unless the video is impossibly shaky.
SLOW MOTION
In my testing, I've never managed to get a smooth slo-mo video out of the stock app and I've tried it after every MIUI update so far. At 1080p or 720p, the result is always a stuttering slo-mo video. GCam to the rescue!
GCam can record stutter-free 1080p slo-mo for a long time (I tried it for a couple minutes) and the resulting video is smooth as butter, suffering only from an occasional hiccup here and there. Perfectly usable.
Open Camera can also record in 1080p120. Different apps should be tried out to see how smooth the slo-mo is and which one is able to use the highest bitrate, leading to the highest image quality. Although image quality does appear to be limited in slow motion mode.
FIELD OF VIEW (FOV)
If you have your phone on a tripod or you can lean on a surface to stabilize it, you should turn EIS off. This will give you a wider field of view and a sharper image. When you're recording a video, the top and bottom portions of the image are cut off to accommodate for the widescreen format. This already makes you lose around 25% of the image information that the sensor can actually see. EIS works by further zooming into the centre of the sensor (or cropping the image) and using the now-extra information to shift the frame in any direction as necessary, to produce an impression of a more stable footage.
The phone will not recognize that it's on a tripod and turn EIS off. You have to do that manually. Why would you want to do that? If you want:
1) to capture more of the scene (a wider field of view), with EIS on, you'll have to step back (which is sometimes not possible)
2) better image: stabilization comes with trade-offs. If you don't need it, turn it off. The phone will be able to use a greater number of pixels to create your fixed-resolution video, resulting in a better image.
With 1080p30 EIS off or UHD without EIS, you'll have the widest FOV possible for video on this sensor. Only top and bottom are cut off for widescreen.
1080p60 EIS off – for some reason, this has just slightly narrower FOV than 1080p30 without EIS. The same FOV appears to be present in 1080p120 (slow motion).
When EIS is on, it crops the least on the stock app, slightly more on GCam and the most on Open Camera.
VIDEO AND AUDIO BITRATES AND QUALITY
Work in progress. So far I can only tell that stock and BSG's GCam produce different videos. Stock uses a higher video bitrate and GCam a higher audio bitrate. Open Camera tends to put on a yellow cast, presumably to make the image warmer. Also, bulkin's GCam allows you to select video bitrate. Haven't played with that or the bitrate in Open Camera.
It's also worth to test other apps, such as Cinema FV-5. I've had luck with that on previous phones.

My recommendation is Open Camera by mark harman

Plzz any one provide me the link

tamalnag said:
Plzz any one provide me the link
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open camera is on play store

Very detailed observation.. Thanks for sharing. ?

Have anyone tried 'Footej Camera'?

Great post. My recomendation for all uses is gcam, not the best in all but not the worst. Perfect for a daily use

There is a possibility to set the video bit rate in some of the other GCam MODs.
I can recommend this GCam MOD made from developer marlin-ku OR this GCam MOD which have much more valuable options (speed / ISO optimisations) from developer bulkin043. The last version of the second MOD is available in the Telegram channel here.
This port is the best working - one of the few other GCam MODs I'm frequently using on my Redmi Note 7.

have you tried anx camera

Quaresma_7 said:
If you like using 1080p60 because of its smoother panning and movement in general, here's a tip to stabilize 60 fps videos: shoot in 1080p60 without EIS in the stock app or another app (using a high bitrate when possible) and then stabilize the footage in Google Photos, which does a nice job unless the video is impossibly shaky
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is it is also true for 4k30 ? do you getter final image quality and stabilization if you do eis in google photo as it must be a more complex algorithm vs "eis on" that only must use a simpler faster algorithm that runs in real time
is it hardware accelerated by the snapdragon 660's Spectra 160 ISP or is it software running on the arm cpu (question both for " eis on" and for stabilisation done in google photos app )

amanieux said:
is it is also true for 4k30 ? do you getter final image quality and stabilization if you do eis in google photo as it must be a more complex algorithm vs "eis on" that only must use a simpler faster algorithm that runs in real time
is it hardware accelerated by the snapdragon 660's Spectra 160 ISP or is it software running on the arm cpu (question both for " eis on" and for stabilisation done in google photos app )
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Google photos stabilization is good, sometimes it does a miracle, but some artifacts appear in the video. It's more aggressive and intelligent than eis on but quality could be not so good. (I don't know anything about which processor is used, but in Google photo is a lot slow the stabilization process, about the double of the video duration)

video quality difference between 4k and 1080p on bsg mod
i installed this gcam mod : https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/MGC_6.2.030_RN7_V1a_FINAL.apk but i notice that 1080p and 4k have a completely different look (different WB, different DR) is it due to snapdragon 660 limitations ? is gcam only configuring the hardware capture codec for snapdragon 660 hardware or is it applying some software computation (google proprietary code) on each frame in real time ?

Best video camera app for me is open camera. I do 1080p with 120 fpS with that and it's awesome. Other one is filmic pro. I can shoot flat video and chose nitrate and frame rate.

Cinema f5

My RN7 can't install the GCAM, I've been getting the message "App Not Installed" please any help?

Okusac said:
My RN7 can't install the GCAM, I've been getting the message "App Not Installed" please any help?
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Uninstall any other previous versions. Then install this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10OAI7zoNHiBjSmxRGTv2meclafg4nmxV/view?usp=drivesdk

Ryamoz said:
Uninstall any other previous versions. Then install this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10OAI7zoNHiBjSmxRGTv2meclafg4nmxV/view?usp=drivesdk
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Okay, I've than that... Thanks

My best is filmic pro. It is dedicated app for video making. U can record in flat/log profile which u then can color grade later on.
The quality is greater than other app.
Open camera is also nice but it has less control over the video. U can't control color temperature and u can't basic color grade ur videos. Plus u can't save ur preset.
I have no luck with GCam and stock one.

Pics GCam, Video Stock
Interesting Thread. On MIUI Global 10.3.6 and now MIUI Global 11.0.4 (Android 9) using GCam PMGC_7.0.009_Astrophoto_Version_V12 overall I'm impressed, activated Sabre and H265/HEVC (edit/play/upload compatibility seems good for the apps I mostly use which paired with the smaller size is good). Not sure if really but crispness/clarity seems well improved as well as less speckles/red-dots especially on the skin in artificial/low light. EIS also still very good.
I also use the stock camera and OpenCamera, so what bothered me in GCam PMGC:
a) still focus flickering in video (can it be optimized by any settings?), stock RN7 camera IMHO has considerably less such flickering?
b) needing GSF: so no CustomROMs? Or is MicroG able to solve this?
c) found no possibility to save to SD-Card DCIM, I think in PMGC V3/V4 versions this still was available?
For OpenCamera while b) und c) are no problem regarding a) there seems to be good micro movement EIS but overall movement/transition is not so smooth; focus seems manual (tapping on-screen) so I could not see flickering . I like OpenCamera for the many settings especially the filename without prefix. It is also possible to set RAW DNG or WebP (I use 4x3k JPG 84%), Exif tags, HEVC, 24 fps, flat/log profile. I wonder why half-max-res pics (2000x1500) are not available to select. For video I would like to have something 16:9 slightly bigger then FHD so like 3K (2560x1440) which is not available (only 4:3). I also can not find timelapse.
A friend has Filmic on RN7. It has pro options and as well HEVC. As i tried once EIS is ok (below stock/GCam) and it seems video focus flickering is noticable just a little more then Stock and GCAM is considerably worse. I do not like the 1/3 screen Play preview of taken videos (just 3 show up) and also the files are not saved in the standard DCIM camera folder on the SD (CMS External Storage, not found by Gallery Apps).
Currently my preference is:
Images: GCam PMGC
Video: RN7 Stock; Timelapses: GCam PMGC

Hi everyone! Back to this topic to ask you a question. After the recent upgrade to Android 10, still with MIUI 11, I've noticed that
- stock camera has video stabilization working "after save"
- gcam (tons of version tried) and opencamera have no more stabilization. Once it was directly on the screen. Now there's any noticable on the screen or offer save.
Do you have the same problem? Thanks! Any way to solve this?

Question How well does mcpro24fps work ?

Hi, I'm thinking of getting a pixel 6 / 6 pro, but first I'd like to know what kind of video I can get from it.
Has anyone tested mcpro24fps ? What are the maximum resolutions available ? The maximum bitrate ?
Are the aux cameras available and working ? (It seems like the ultra wide isn't very wide or very good, but at least the main and zoom lenses ?)

For anyone who is curious, this is an $18 app mcpro24fps - professional manual video camera app.

roirraW edor ehT said:
For anyone who is curious, this is an $18 app mcpro24fps - professional manual video camera app.
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It's also available for free if you download it through the developper's telegram discussion - but it's in russian. I learned where the main buttons are through screenshots and google lens translation, and it works well enough for me.
Not sure I'm allowed to post the link to the telegram here, but if I am I will !

i've dabbled with this app and filmic on previous devices and been left a bit frustrated. it all depends on your usual way of working. for a start you lose all gyro stabilization, which for me is a deal breaker. also with regards the pixel 6, my guess would be that you will also lose it's hdr.net video capabilities, which is an incredible feature.
on my p6p the default white balance for video (but not stills) is a little warm. i've found that if you tweak the white balance slider down just a tiny bit, the footage looks really amazing. if you also hop onto the MWP mod of the camera, you can bump the bitrate up to 100, vs the 69 of stock. using this mod you can control most aspects of the stills, saturation sharpness noise control hdr etc. i've yet to experiment whether those also apply to video.

whatsisnametake2 said:
i've dabbled with this app and filmic on previous devices and been left a bit frustrated. it all depends on your usual way of working. for a start you lose all gyro stabilization, which for me is a deal breaker. also with regards the pixel 6, my guess would be that you will also lose it's hdr.net video capabilities, which is an incredible feature.
on my p6p the default white balance for video (but not stills) is a little warm. i've found that if you tweak the white balance slider down just a tiny bit, the footage looks really amazing. if you also hop onto the MWP mod of the camera, you can bump the bitrate up to 100, vs the 69 of stock. using this mod you can control most aspects of the stills, saturation sharpness noise control hdr etc. i've yet to exp
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It's also available for free if you download it through the developper's telegram discussion - but it's in russian. I learned where the main buttons are through screenshots and google lens translation, and it works well enough for me.
Not sure I'm allowed to post the link to the telegram here, but if I am I will !
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Can i get the free link please? Thanks

joetarney said:
Can i get the free link please? Thanks
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Yes, of course :
mcpro24fps
Official mcpro24fps channel (Android™ only) Купить в РФ Huawei AppGallery: https://bit.ly/mcpro24fpshua English chat: https://t.me/mcpro24fps_en Русский чат: https://t.me/mcpro24fps_ru Youtube: https://youtube.com/mcpro24fps Карта Мир: 2204120102886906
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Although as I already said, that version is only in Russian. What I usually do is take a screenshot, open it in google photos, tap the google lens icon and select "translate". So I can only read a few buttons at a time.
Also you will need to download and install any future updates by yourself.
If you've never used the app, basically tap the camera icon at the bottom of the screen, select one of the two top menus (with or without gpu, it determines wether the video feed will be encoded by the gpu or isp) then select 60 fps, and finally the highest resolution available.
Then a bit further down one of the options is a value in megabytes, that's the bitrate, push it as far as possible (before the selection turns red)
You can also check out the aux sensors by taping the button at the top-left corner.

So... if stabilization, hdr.net video and GCAM processing is out the window, what good is this app if it only gets fed the 12.5 MP downgraded version of a sensor that has not been properly optimized? If "saturation sharpness noise control" are of interest, wouldn't it be wiser to just shoot in RAW and then edit later on, ensuring that the "base" product is of higher quality?

Morgrain said:
So... if stabilization, hdr.net video and GCAM processing is out the window, what good is this app if it only gets fed the 12.5 MP downgraded version of a sensor that has not been properly optimized?
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The base idea of the app is that it gives you acess to the rawest output from the sensor. It supports better resolutions than the stock camera, in much higher bitrate. In theory, it also supports denoise and both ois and eis.
I made this post to check if all of these do actually work on the pixel 6 pro (including on the aux lenses) and what resolutions and fps combos are supported.

Morgrain said:
So... if stabilization, hdr.net video and GCAM processing is out the window, what good is this app if it only gets fed the 12.5 MP downgraded version of a sensor that has not been properly optimized? If "saturation sharpness noise control" are of interest, wouldn't it be wiser to just shoot in RAW and then edit later on, ensuring that the "base" product is of higher quality?
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The only thing it might not have is hdr.net, and even that might be exposed as a video output from the camera api, so even that might be a possibility, just with a higher bitrate than what the stock app supports.
EDIT : The video feed isn't downgraded in any way, stabilization is supported, and it supplants gcam processing which isn't really good at video anyway (except maybe hdr.net, but we'll see).