Is it possible to copy the algorithm of Google pixel camera and install it in Xiaomi mi 5s? Because both have exactly same sensors. As I have seen the reviews of Xiaomi mi 5s, there is a room for improvement in the software. Specially night shots need improvement. So is there any way to copy pixel's algorithm and software into mi 5s?
At this point? Probably not.
In the future? Who knows, I hope so too...
We might (or might not) need to copy some libraries from pixel's system image, and probably must use the included google camera (which requires android 7.0 for now...)
awaaas said:
At this point? Probably not.
In the future? Who knows, I hope so too...
We might (or might not) need to copy some libraries from pixel's system image, and probably must use the included google camera (which requires android 7.0 for now...)
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Why not replace the crappy dual camera of 5s plus with dual imx378? Is it possible? I am really curious to do something with these phones.
Ahm_Shoaib said:
Why not replace the crappy dual camera of 5s plus with dual imx378? Is it possible? I am really curious to do something with these phones.
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If you want to break your phone then go ahead
Ahm_Shoaib said:
Why not replace the crappy dual camera of 5s plus with dual imx378? Is it possible? I am really curious to do something with these phones.
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Not possible because of so many things...
- There's likely no drivers for IMX378 included in the kernel/system by xiaomi for Mi5s Plus
- You must have to somehow find dual IMX378 module with the same pin configuration as the original one for it to even turn on (won't work if there's no driver for it though...)
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Why not replace the crappy dual camera of 5s plus with dual imx378? Is it possible? I am really curious to do something with these phones.
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It would be redundant, the 5s plus uses a normal sensor with a monochrome sensor, similar to P9, and this allows (should) better lowlight, and higher dynamic range, however from samples I've seen, Xiaomi has not implemented it very well. They would have been better off with one 378 sensor, as that is currently one of the best mobile sensors
Man I think the original idea is ask about how we can get the eis and quality photos video from pixel to the mi5s small who carrier the same sensor.
How get software from pixel to mi5s (pixel too expensive), I want use the Xiaomi mi5s small with cm14 and Google pixel software/library features camera
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roghax said:
Man I think the original idea is ask about how we can get the eis and quality photos video from pixel to the mi5s small who carrier the same sensor.
How get software from pixel to mi5s (pixel too expensive), I want use the Xiaomi mi5s small with cm14 and Google pixel software/library features camera
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Yes, and I think I've already answered that. Pixel runs android 7.1, Mi5s runs 6.0, you can't get the camera app that comes with pixel to run on mi5s, and if you manage to backport that to android 6.0, what if it needs some library, can you make sure that it is can run on android 6.0, while it is built for android 7.1?
Moreover, I found out the hard way that Mi5s did not specify it's HFR modes, so the latest Google Camera that is compatible with android 6.0 won't run at all. Except if you turn the HFR functionality off, by adding this line to your build.prop:
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persist.camera.hal3hfr.enable=0
I don't know if this bug comes from xiaomi, or xiaomi.eu (as I am running xiaomi.eu's ROM right now), and I don't know if it's gonna be fixed in the future.
You're welcome to pursue this idea, but keep that things in mind
Since Google's HDR+ is so good in low light, has anyone tried alternative 3rd party apps that use image stacking to improve low light IQ ( Better Camera and Snap HDR Cam low light modes come to mind)
I am interested in this phone because of the price and sensor and would like an HDR+ alternative.
Has anyone tried those apps? Thanks
Try cortex camera, it basically is the best app at stacking images.
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Yes, and I think I've already answered that. Pixel runs android 7.1, Mi5s runs 6.0, you can't get the camera app that comes with pixel to run on mi5s, and if you manage to backport that to android 6.0, what if it needs some library, can you make sure that it is can run on android 6.0, while it is built for android 7.1?
Moreover, I found out the hard way that Mi5s did not specify it's HFR modes, so the latest Google Camera that is compatible with android 6.0 won't run at all. Except if you turn the HFR functionality off, by adding this line to your build.prop:
Code:
persist.camera.hal3hfr.enable=0
I don't know if this bug comes from xiaomi, or xiaomi.eu (as I am running xiaomi.eu's ROM right now), and I don't know if it's gonna be fixed in the future.
You're welcome to pursue this idea, but keep that things in mind
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Hi, thanks for the information about google camera. Any possibility that we can have settings like manual iso, or hdr (just normal hdr) ? Is it exclude to nexus devices, I mean after hacking still? How about the snapdragon camera, it seems that we need caf kernel, but maybe it's working after adding this line?
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Hi, thanks for the information about google camera. Any possibility that we can have settings like manual iso, or hdr (just normal hdr) ? Is it exclude to nexus devices, I mean after hacking still? How about the snapdragon camera, it seems that we need caf kernel, but maybe it's working after adding this line?
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We already have manual controls, just use snap cam and enable cam 2 api in it's settings, or use FreeDcam and you get full manual
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We already have manual controls, just use snap cam and enable cam 2 api in it's settings, or use FreeDcam and you get full manual
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That's true, I'm just curious if google has better post processing (now I think an app won't change much) If apps can't change, is it possible to copy the drivers from pixel, if the sensors are the same? Meanwhile, we don't have iso 50 (although maybe the native iso is 100, so 100 might be better than 50). Freedcam seems to be able to enable eis on camera api 1, but it crashed a lot, and it's api 1. Now I'm confused which is the best choice. I'm using snap camera, but there's no long exposure like the stock camera (up to 32s, I think it's a stack of photos). Sorry I asked a lot, but it seems that you are an expert . Last question, the stock camera in manual mode, the preview never changes while changing iso/shutter speed. In other apps, it got very slow when the shutter is long (1/3 s). I wonder if this is because imx 378 is very powerful and generating large data, or it's MIUI‘s bug?
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That's true, I'm just curious if google has better post processing (now I think an app won't change much) If apps can't change, is it possible to copy the drivers from pixel, if the sensors are the same? Meanwhile, we don't have iso 50 (although maybe the native iso is 100, so 100 might be better than 50). Freedcam seems to be able to enable eis on camera api 1, but it crashed a lot, and it's api 1. Now I'm confused which is the best choice. I'm using snap camera, but there's no long exposure like the stock camera (up to 32s, I think it's a stack of photos). Sorry I asked a lot, but it seems that you are an expert . Last question, the stock camera in manual mode, the preview never changes while changing iso/shutter speed. In other apps, it got very slow when the shutter is long (1/3 s). I wonder if this is because imx 378 is very powerful and generating large data, or it's MIUI‘s bug?
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I guess Google's HDR+ algorithm is the only great thing the Pixel has we don't besides that fact they don't have long exposure so they can't take as good night pics as us.
In camera 1 Api we can go all the way to 60 sec, although stock libs limited at 32 sec which is fine. Also we do have ISO 50 on FreeDcam API 2, I think I have a specially built FreeDcam by @defcomg who sorted it out. I'll ask him if I he or I can post it here.
Also Quallcomm seemed to mess up the camera libs recently and max exposure on cam 2 api is only around 5 sec.
But I suggest you to experiment with Snap and FreeDcam, I use FreeDcam for long exposures and low light shots. And I use snap camera in the day time. I have denoise and ZSL forced off for both of them.
The preview should get slow and laggy on cam 2 api but stay the same on Cam 1 api
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I guess Google's HDR+ algorithm is the only great thing the Pixel has we don't besides that fact they don't have long exposure so they can't take as good night pics as us.
In camera 1 Api we can go all the way to 60 sec, although stock libs limited at 32 sec which is fine. Also we do have ISO 50 on FreeDcam API 2, I think I have a specially built FreeDcam by @defcomg who sorted it out. I'll ask him if I he or I can post it here.
Also Quallcomm seemed to mess up the camera libs recently and max exposure on cam 2 api is only around 5 sec.
But I suggest you to experiment with Snap and FreeDcam, I use FreeDcam for long exposures and low light shots. And I use snap camera in the day time. I have denoise and ZSL forced off for both of them.
The preview should get slow and laggy on cam 2 api but stay the same on Cam 1 api
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I tried freedcam with 50 iso, but the photo actually got iso 100 still. You can also set iso 50 in snap camera, which still outputs 100.
Turn ZSL (0 lag?) is better for HDR? I heard a saying that ZSL is not as good as longer hdr, which is software implementation.
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I tried freedcam with 50 iso, but the photo actually got iso 100 still. You can also set iso 50 in snap camera, which still outputs 100.
Turn ZSL (0 lag?) is better for HDR? I heard a saying that ZSL is not as good as longer hdr, which is software implementation.
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When zsl is enabled you can't have manual controls, so that's why I disable it. But also try in FreeDcam (cam 1) to set shutter speed and leave ISO on auto and see, it's possible to get up to 0 ISO.
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When zsl is enabled you can't have manual controls, so that's why I disable it. But also try in FreeDcam (cam 1) to set shutter speed and leave ISO on auto and see, it's possible to get up to 0 ISO.
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cam 1 you mean Camera api 1? It crash a lot (every time I touch to focus, or use exposure longer than 1/3s ). I couldn't got iso lower than 100. Do I need to use hdr mode to get this or any mode as long as I set iso to auto and a long shutter?
hdr+ is out for mi5s
It's funny since people thought it was impossible 1+ year ago but now thanks to awesome devs more devices can taste the magic of Google Camera HDR+
How to Copy Google Pixel Camera algorithm into Xiaomi Redmi 6A?
Hello everybody Is it possible to copy the algorithm of Google pixel camera and install it in Xiaomi mi Redmi 6A? Because both have exactly same sensors. So is there any way to copy pixel's algorithm and software into my Redmi 6A ?Thanks to all
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Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
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No idea about the RAW support but if you want to take long exposure shots there are a few camera apps on the Play Store which should do the trick (Camera FV-5 Lite for example) but I never tried any so you may have to try a few in order to find something you're happy with.
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Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
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Cheers! I've got Camera FV-5 installed and it does present longer exposure times, but I cant tell the difference between them and the stock camera photos. For example, photos taken in stock camera at 1/6 look the same as FV5 at 5 second exp. I don't have my phone to hand but will post some examples later.
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I'm not surprised if there's no differences between the 2 but I thought you could make 30 seconds exposure shots with Camera FV-5 (which would surely make a difference with the stock camera)
About RAW support, from what I've read the Z Play doesn't support it unfortunately. You'd need the TrueZoom mod to get RAW support, which is quite an expensive buy.
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Hi
Does anyone know if there is a way to save images as RAW in the Moto Z Play?
Also, the manual (pro) mode allows you to change the exposure duration but this seems to be maxed to 1/6 - any way to get to longer exposure times?
Thank you.
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Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
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Thanks for this. It's odd, camera fv 5 says the phone does not support RAW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What really bugs me though is the exposure times. I'll give it a try to see what sort of image I get with a 30 sec exposure now.
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IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
If im not mistaken, Camera2API supports raw format. Whenever Lenovo finally enables it (Nougat?) we should be able to export to raw format.
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IMG image - Stock camera with everything auto and exposure at 1/6s. Looks like garbage.
DSC image - Camera FV 5, everything auto and exposure at 20s. Looks like dark garbage.
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I found that long exposure shots have a very limited use :-\
True it's not something you'd use everyday, but it would've been good to have this work as it should. The only other thing I can think of is that they've nerfed it on purpose so the camera mod sells.
noisyriver said:
Edit: Tried to save RAW with Snap but although it gives me the option I was not able to find a RAW image on my card...
I use the Snap Camera app from Playstore. It's extremely versatile and gives you tons of options and it has RAW support with our Z Play.
It needs some time to try out all options and find out the best for the phone and it also costs a few bucks (although there is a free version too). But I think it's worth it. For example it's also the only app I've found which let's you tourn of the denoise filter which is sometimes very helpfull when making pictures of landscapes which lots of details.
The interface is a little annoying at first but you can turn off everything and build your own interface with the free customizable shortcut buttons (settings - advanced - on screen settings).
It has also a good support on XDA.
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Raw does work if you enable camera 2 api or modify hal lib it works even in camera 1 mode
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I have been using this phone for a month. I am rooted with magisk and camera2 api is enabled. All the manual controls except the long exposure works fine but in case of shutter speed or long exposure i cannot find more than 1/8 sec in any of the third party app like proshot and camera fv-5. So i think this is the cause of my camera hardware not being able to do so :crying::crying:. But amazing developers like you guys are out there who are making great customization and mods for this phone, please anyone take an initiative for enabling this long shutter speed mode for at least 10 or 20 sec.
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I have been using this phone for a month. I am rooted with magisk and camera2 api is enabled. All the manual controls except the long exposure works fine but in case of shutter speed or long exposure i cannot find more than 1/8 sec in any of the third party app like proshot and camera fv-5. So i think this is the cause of my camera hardware not being able to do so :crying::crying:. But amazing developers like you guys are out there who are making great customization and mods for this phone, please anyone take an initiative for enabling this long shutter speed mode for at least 10 or 20 sec.
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Disable camera 2 API and then try camera FV5,you will get the option to set manual exposure time in it.
I've tested it,try yourself.
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Disable camera 2 API and then try camera FV5,you will get the option to set manual exposure time in it.
I've tested it,try yourself.
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Actually when camera2 api was disabled i tested it and saw that all that it does is stack some images. That image is not what i call long exposure image. Any how can you share some long exposure shots taken by this phone? can you do light trails also? please share.
Managed to got this by opening shutter for 5 sec
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Managed to got this by opening shutter for 5 sec
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wow thats good! Are you using the latest camera fv5 or previous version? How can i disable camera2 api?
wow72 said:
wow thats good! Are you using the latest camera fv5 or previous version? How can i disable camera2 api?
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Yes ,using latest version.
To enable or disable camera2api follow this -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/tool-google-camera-root-magisk-enable-t3747585
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Managed to got this by opening shutter for 5 sec
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Is this shot on Canon DSLR (DSC file name)
Anandkrishna said:
Is this shot on Canon DSLR (DSC file name)
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its just the file name, you can change that naming pattern in the settings of the app, no canon or any kind of DSLR.
what is best built of gcam compatible with note 5 ? is there better camera app
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
For the RN5Pro Global/CN: If you want HDR and Portrait in the RearCam get Arnova's GCam-5.1.018-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.3b1.apk (the most Stable port) but if you want HDR, Portrait and Night Sight in the RearCam get BSG's MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a+.apk.
and in case anybody wonders do you have to enable API 2 for them to work properly ?
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and in case anybody wonders do you have to enable API 2 for them to work properly ?
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The Google Camera with HDR+ uses algorithms that aren't possible to get with Camera1API, that's why Camera2API was developed. The GCam only opens if it detects that the new API is activated, otherwise it force closes.
If you have it activated and wanna see the difference between API1 and API2 download Open Camera, go to configurations, disable the option "use Camera2API" to force the use of API1, go to HDR mode and take a photo. It will take 3 pictures with different bracketing and merge them together, this process without API2 will take 5-10 seconds. After that go to configurations, enable the option "use Camera2API", go to HDR and take another picture. The process now will take up to 1-2 seconds. With API2 it's faster and the results are better.
Thanks for the explanation
just to help out people on a stock rom wondering why it immediately closes when they open it
Is it possible to change camera2 api without rooting redmi note 5 pro
Is it possible to change camera2 api without rooting redmi note 5 pro.
deepanjandatta said:
Is it possible to change camera2 api without rooting redmi note 5 pro.
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Without root yes, without unlock bootloader no.
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For the RN5Pro Global/CN: If you want HDR and Portrait in the RearCam get Arnova's GCam-5.1.018-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.3b1.apk (the most Stable port) but if you want HDR, Portrait and Night Sight in the RearCam get BSG's MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a+.apk.
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do you know best setting for it ?
AhmedAlaa01 said:
do you know best setting for it ?
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I'm using default settings.
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For the RN5Pro Global/CN: If you want HDR and Portrait in the RearCam get Arnova's GCam-5.1.018-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.3b1.apk (the most Stable port) but if you want HDR, Portrait and Night Sight in the RearCam get BSG's MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a+.apk.
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Yeah , night mode working , thank u for the comment
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Hey Folks,
i know the topic is discussed sometimes already, but the most commong solution: "just use Gcam" doesnt really work for me.
Well to my problem, as we all know the RN8P cant shoot raw using MIUI except with Gcam or Front Cam 3rd Party Apps.
I am mostly doin astrophotography with this Phone and in AP Raw Format is kinda Must for Post Processing. Now people gonna say: But Google Camera has Astrophotography Mode!!!
Ye ye i know it does, and it is "okay" when u think its fully done with 1 button press, but comparing the Results between Google Camera AP Mode and Fully Manual Mode Shots + stacking are drasticly and very extreme. I live in a very Light Polluted Area and for me the difference between Gcam and Manual Mode is Having a Milky Way Photo or having a photo with only 20 Stars on it. So thats why GCam isnt really a solution for me. So i switched to HAVOC OS CFW which is great because now i can Shoot in RAW in Full Manual Mode with ANX Camera and 3rd Party Apps. So far so good. The Thing is, i like the whole MIUI Experience with its UI and the way they handle the Apps and all its blinky blinky animation.s More Than Stock Android like on Havoc.
Now i saw the Begonia Mods here on XDA which activated some camera mods. Sadly not the RAW Mode. Is it possible to add something to the XML like: "supports_raw"true or something like that?
Or is it possible to deactive the 64MP Mode for 3rd Party apps so it only connects to the 16MP Sensor Data with Pixel Binning and we dont get the Camera Error the whole time? Or does anyone know a fully working Manual Camera with White Balance Support, Manual Focus, Manual Exposure Time and Manual ISO which does support RAW on our Phone when using MIUI 12? I mean its basicly just a software lockout, since the phone definatly supports RAW as we can see with CFW or Gcam.
I actually checked the camera 2 api probe and its not HAL3 Full, but in CFW it is HAL3 Full. Back when i had the Mi Max 2 (oxygen) i had to enable c2api manually in the build.prop. Did someone tried to activate HAL3 manually in the build.prop already to have it on FULL support?
I am open to any solutions you guys can think of or tried yourself. I dont mind rooting MIUI 12 or so, all i want is MIUI OS + Full Manual Camera with RAW no matter how and at which costs
And please as i said earlier: "Just use Google Camera" is no Option for me
Greetings and have a nice Day
snap camera hdr allows raw capture on note 8 pro with full iso and shutter speed control but limited focus and white balance option
select raw and tap on the iso value to enable manual control
for wb and focus tap and hold on the viewfinder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap
I have same problem and you are firs person who say same. Havoc os shoot 64 mp raw? or 16 mp like gcam?