I went to an electronic party last weekend so I could finally test the audio recording quality on extreme situations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzfXQqgGZ1M
Turns out its really awful. Even my friend with a Motorola G5 have better audio quality. That is pretty disappointing for me, as I'm also a DJ and music producer so I make videos under this circunstances a lot. Also it impacts song-finder apps, as the quality is so bad that the app can't recognise the song.
Is there anything that can be done via software? Custom ROM or tweaks... Or is it a matter of the microphone (hardware) quality itself?
Btw I've already tried recording with the Open Camera App selecting the "unprocessed" audio source. Gets distorted same way.
Thanks in advance.
I confirm the existence of a similar problem for me and several people. How can this be fixed at least temporarily?
Thanks in advance.
Gratefall said:
I confirm the existence of a similar problem for me and several people. How can this be fixed at least temporarily?
Thanks in advance.
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Can't really call it a "problem" since it affects all Xiaomi phones. It's just a standard quality microphone paired with bad software otimization. I did some tests and the microphone is actually capable of capturing audio with less distortion under these conditions, the problem is the processing applied to the audio isn't optimized for these situations, making it distort.
Did you have the same issues using other kernels or roms? I confirm I've been getting similar issues also
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Did you have the same issues using other kernels or roms? I confirm I've been getting similar issues also
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Yea I tried every rom and kernel... all the same.
If it was only at shows... could live with it. But the audio distorts even at daily things like recording messages on whatsapp when inside a vehicle (I reported this on another thread). I get really frustrated.
Same here..I participate at the lot of Trance events and simply, audio is one big bulshitt. (like at 99% of Android phones). For loud events recordings, iPhones are still the best
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Same here..I participate at the lot of Trance events and simply, audio is one big bulshitt. (like at 99% of Android phones). For loud events recordings, iPhones are still the best
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Exactly... I always had android, then I swiched to an iphone 6s only because of the audio I knew was good... now I finally came back to android (cause I love the OS and its variety of functions compared to iOS) and unfortunately suffering again with poor audio recording. The few android I know can handle this are the top-end Samsung (S8, S9, S10). I heard about HTC also but never got to see or test it personally.
Altough I really can't understand why manufacturers don't take this audio thing more seriously, they leave this aside like no one cared about audio quality lol
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Exactly... I always had android, then I swiched to an iphone 6s only because of the audio I knew was good... now I finally came back to android (cause I love the OS and its variety of functions compared to iOS) and unfortunately suffering again with poor audio recording. The few android I know can handle this are the top-end Samsung (S8, S9, S10). I heard about HTC also but never got to see or test it personally.
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Damn, I thought I was the only with this kind of concern and this is the reason I'm currently using an iPhone 6s as my second phone just for audio recording. In my case I like to listen and play metal music with my band in a rehearsal room, so I always used my phone to record my rehearsals to see my band's progress and some other things and the best phone with a good recorder was the Mi 8 Lite until someone robbed me.
Idk why Xiaomi don't take a look to this issue, I mean, I'm not saying they have to listen to heavy metal or something like that, just realize the many scenarios the people would use the recorder app or the camera, e.g. in concerts.
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Damn, I thought I was the only with this kind of concern and this is the reason I'm currently using an iPhone 6s as my second phone just for audio recording. In my case I like to listen and play metal music with my band in a rehearsal room, so I always used my phone to record my rehearsals to see my band's progress and some other things and the best phone with a good recorder was the Mi 8 Lite until someone robbed me.
Idk why Xiaomi don't take a look to this issue, I mean, I'm not saying they have to listen to heavy metal or something like that, just realize the many scenarios the people would use the recorder app or the camera, e.g. in concerts.
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Most android manufacturers lose users to Apple just because of details like this, they don't realize how important this might be for some users. I mean, take for example artists on the music world... these are influent people... and 99% of them use iPhones because of things like the audio quality.
Anyway... this conversation can go really far.
Talking about the Mi 9 SE... mostly the cause of the the bad audio quality is bad software optimization. Xiaomi could get this a lot better with just some simple updates. I've tried modifying some microphone options, turns out it can actually record with less distortion (not really perfect but better). Still a bit of the guilt is on the microphone hardware itself... its kinda cheap.
try cameramx app, set audio source to external. it worked quite well at a muse concert.
the issue is the recording volume too high which affects also whatsapp vocal messages.
somebody solved it on rooted devices by installing root volume mixer pro, set the microphone gain to -3. this wasn't tested at loud events, only on whatsapp.
turronet said:
try cameramx app, set audio source to external. it worked quite well at a muse concert.
the issue is the recording volume too high which affects also whatsapp vocal messages.
somebody solved it on rooted devices by installing root volume mixer pro, set the microphone gain to -3. this wasn't tested at loud events, only on whatsapp.
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I've tried using Open Camera with audio source set to unprocessed. Didn't solve it for me, got a bit less distortion but still a lot (maybe bacause the sound was really extremely loud). Will try with "external" source.
I was trying to modify the mic gain directly on the system files, but I'm gonna try that volume mixer pro thing also. Ty.
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I've tried using Open Camera with audio source set to unprocessed. Didn't solve it for me, got a bit less distortion but still a lot (maybe bacause the sound was really extremely loud). Will try with "external" source.
I was trying to modify the mic gain directly on the system files, but I'm gonna try that volume mixer pro thing also. Ty.
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Did it make it any better?
I have the Xiaomi Mi 9 SE , i love the phone, but yes the recording quality is terrible. i downloaded the Root volume control, but when im in the path files, i dont know what changes to make.....
What is the recording mic on the camera called in the files??.......what values am i looking for??......
How many changes to i need to make.......??
I don't know ir the problem is because harware or software, but this problem doesn't happen in all Xiaomi phones, because models like Mi 9T (Pro version also) or Mi 8 records the audio clearly, also, remember that an user said that the Mi 8 Lite has a good quality of audio recording (I don't know if the NORMAL Mi 9 (not SE) records well the audio). Probably the problem is from the hardware, because phones like a big part of Redmi or other Android has a low quality mic, so the sound recorded will be poor, this problem also happens with other companies like OnePlus.
But if we want to talk in a general way, all the cellphones, including those made from Apple, ASUS, HTC or Samsung are going to lose quality in the record of concerts, very few phones like some LG are good recording specifically the audio from concerts.
I fixed a bit this problem just putting a finger up the microphone. At least it didnt clip af
Try another camera app like Cinema-FV5. I heard it improves.
Had this problem with every xiaomi I owned, only Mi 8 Lite didn't have it, so strange :\
hi, i had this problem on Redmi 3, on MI 9 SE its better, but still present. I installed CameraMX and set microphone to external and i think it helps a lot !
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Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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try Poweramp
Erjimipey said:
Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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Not a solution - android newbie here.
Signed up to this website to troubleshoot the same issue. I suspect this is a software limitation imposed somewhere in the OS or added on top by the manufacturer, but I consider this a significant con on this phone. I tried listening to music while working out last night and it was just far too low to enjoy, ended up just going with my old iPod instead. I've tried out a few "volume booster" and "EQ" apps but the result as expected is just software based wave scaling that significantly distorts audio without actually increasing output power. If you are interested in audio quality, software EQ is not a solution at all.
I would imagine there would be a system file somewhere that can adjust this but that would likely require root access and whether or not it's in plain readable text is anybody's guess. Unfortunately this is my first Android device so I'm clueless.
I'll try looking for the application posted above.. let's see
update: poweramp isn't free, and from what I'm seeing does nothing that I can't do much better using VLC.
Veering off topic slightly, but is there a solution for users who are willing to root to the device? I'm asking for something that produces higher output voltage from the headphone jack.
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Not a solution - android newbie here.
Signed up to this website to troubleshoot the same issue. I suspect this is a software limitation imposed somewhere in the OS or added on top by the manufacturer, but I consider this a significant con on this ............ do much better using VLC.
Veering off topic slightly, but is there a solution for users who are willing to root to the device? I'm asking for something that produces higher output voltage from the headphone jack.
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Viper4Android can give much better output with certain profiles, but requires root and it's not advisable to root Honor 7X as stock firmware is not released by Honor yet. In most cases one will end up with a bricked phone or a phone without any OTA's
So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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You have to search for a music player which can amplify the sound, most have it as a setting called "Gain". Neutron and Poweramp can do this but they are paid.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using XDA Labs
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So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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For music download VLC media player (it's free). It's what I went with for now. When you play a song find the menu and bring up the equalizer. At the top of the equalizer is a horizontal bar for volume, you can crank the gain up a bit with that. At 100% it will distort but you can get a nice little boost with it without significantly distorting your music. That's what I'm doing for now. None of the volume boosting apps system-wide have produced any respectable results for me, so for YouTube I'm still stuck with low volume. You can try searching the play store for volume boosters if you don't mind distortion for everything else.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if Bluetooth buds will be able to get me the volume I want. I have a Bluetooth headset but it sounds atrocious for music. Otherwise I'll have to buy a portable amp. Either solution is totally ridiculous IMO.
Honor 7x is a solid phone, even the gimped US model I bought. This is the only problem I've come across with it thus far. I doubt Oreo will fix it, so I'll be waiting until the phone can be reliably rooted.
I'll try VLC and see what I can do with Google play music.
Thanks for your inputs!
Hi, I am running ressurection remix 8.1 on my whyred ai, cant seem to work out how to get any bass on my video recordings, on my mido I had to flash some changes to audio mixer files etc. Not sure if anyone else is having this problem but the audio reoding sounds really tinny.
anyone else notice this?
just realised the inbuilt audio recorder is ok, only video apps like google camera and opencamera seem to have the issue?
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just realised the inbuilt audio recorder is ok, only video apps like google camera and opencamera seem to have the issue?
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Same here I also noticed it. Seems they have a high pass filter at around 150Hz or something.
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Same here I also noticed it. Seems they have a high pass filter at around 150Hz or something.
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yes, thats what I thought too, how the hell do we disable it? anyone?
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yes, thats what I thought too, how the hell do we disable it? anyone?
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Ok found a way to get really good audio quality. I've searched across boards and tried a lot of stuff. The volume level might be low(er) but I need to alter another XML file. Good enough for concerts and out in the open I would say.
First you need to change the max bitrate since they set that to 96KHz which is way to low. The file to edit is /vendor/etc/media_profiles_vendor.xml
Almost all the way down that file you see the AAC settings.
You will see
<AudioEncoderCap name="aac" enabled="true"
minBitRate="8000" maxBitRate="288000"
minSampleRate="8000" maxSampleRate="48000"
minChannels="1" maxChannels="6" />
As you see I set it to 288000.
Next is the biggest issue. Seems the MIUI camera standard uses AGC and that high pass filter that up to date I haven't found. Open camera works but the other microphone you can select they go via the noise cancelling stuff which kills the audio and you get an underwater sound.
I have a official licensed cinema FV-5 from the playstore. Now there is an issue for the moment. I cannot record in 1080P (the image zooms in like crazy it seems, I contacted the developer for that). On 4K recording it works perfectly. Also remember in the menu to tab the little shaky hand to switch on the stabilizer as that works miracles.
Now go to the settings - audio - audio source is set to 'built-in mic(video camera)' ------ audio channels - stereo (2) ----- bitrate - 256000 ----- sampling rate - 48000 and very important 'disable audio automatic gain control - is switched on' meaning disabled.
Give it a go.
@junglist @lukesan Hi,
I downloaded Mi Max 3 ROM which is the same SOC and I found some interesting stuff about that!
mediaprofiles.xml in vendor is the same on both devices (at least on 9.5.19.0 which am using right now) but the one in system is different, on Mi Max 3 they changed the aac bitRate in so many lines from 156000 to 192000 which is looks interesting!
Also there’s a trick here, mediaprofiles.xml which is in system is the same media_profiles_vendor.xml which is vendor, same on our device, that means both files must be overriding not only mediaprofiles.xml in system!
here’s a flashable zip from Mi Max 3 ROM for any one wants to give a try, also check out this video which compares between our device and Mi Max 3 regarding this part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKThf9KWjs (09:42)
I still need to perform more testing before I can confirm if this really works or not!
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@junglist @lukesan Hi,
I downloaded Mi Max 3 ROM which is the same SOC and I found some interesting stuff about that!
mediaprofiles.xml in vendor is the same on both devices (at least on 9.5.19.0 which am using right now) but the one in system is different, on Mi Max 3 they changed the aac bitRate in so many lines from 156000 to 192000 which is looks interesting!
Also there’s a trick here, mediaprofiles.xml which is in system is the same media_profiles_vendor.xml which is vendor, same on our device, that means both files must be overriding not only mediaprofiles.xml in system!
here’s a flashable zip from Mi Max 3 ROM for any one wants to give a try, also check out this video which compares between our device and Mi Max 3 regarding this part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKThf9KWjs (09:42)
I still need to perform more testing before I can confirm if this really works or not!
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Ok, very cool find! Observations which I made over the last couple of days
We have 2 'issues' on the redmi note 5 (Whyred) so 1) the bitrate and 2) the highpass
1) is as you say media_profiles_vendor.xml we can easily alter that one. Check out the downloadable MI MIX 2 audio quality ... module for Magisk. Download extract and copy that xml file and set the same permissions 644 I believe. Make a backup of the original first. They set the bitrate really high on that one 256kbit/s I believe which is a bit overkill, but compared to 20mbit/s for the video it is nothing and I rather have overkill than 96kbit/s underwater sound.
So that one is easily fixable.
2) The high pass filter seems to be linked to the AGC. I really like the AGC since it keeps the volume constant and should be the standard for the 'normal' people who do not care about extreme hifi things. I would leave it on if I could only switch off the high pass filter. Shoot a video and it will be perfect for 99.999% of the people. Levels will almost be perfect. People easily understandable etc etc etc.
I would like to switch off the AGC (and the filter) for real audio recordings, meaning classical music etc etc .. this involves always having to check if your level is not to low or if the peaks are not to high causing clipping which means distortion.
For issue 2 the only app that I found that can do this is cinema-fv5. I made an error in my previous text to set it to 8MP since then the stabilization doesn't seem to work properly so I now set that to 2592x1296 which seems pretty 16/9 like to me. If you switch off the AGC in this app then you get AGC off and high pass off. Very low level audio but perfect quality. I guess perfect for a concert. (this weekend there is a local festival here so I can really test (and enjoy))
If you want good audio but mono then you need open camera for now. If you set the microphone to 'mono' you will also hear that the sound is good, setting it to stereo gets the noise cancellation working and it sounds like crap.
I'll try those Mi Max 3 things if I find a bit of time. Lets share knowledge and experience and we'll get it working like it should. This is the only small downside of the redmi note 5 that I have found so far. (and that is coming from an S7)
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@rocker00 Just flashed it. Does set the bitrate to 288kbit/s which is really high but, like said above compared to video that is peanuts. Better a lot more than what it was. But it does not switch off the AGC or high pass. Since you have the rom can you check and attach another file? The file is in the same path (vendor/ etc) our file on the redmi note 5 is called mixer_paths_skus.xml . I guess it might be a bit different on MI MAX but I guess some more audio is being controlled there.
@lukesan First please override media_profiles_vendor.xml manually because it looks like the script is not mounting vendor!
Regarding the file, media_profiles_V1_0.xml, mixer_paths_i2s.xml, mixer_paths_mtp.xml, mixer_paths_skus.xml, mixer_paths_skush.xml, mixer_paths_wcd9326.xml, mixer_paths_wcd9335.xml and mixer_paths_wcd9340.xml
are the same md5! but mixer_paths.xml (which i downloaded the whole rom just to get it in order to try to enable dual speaker) is completely different!
Also i have 2 doubts:
1- in build.prop which is in vendor they changed ro.vendor.audio.sdk.fluencetype to fluence which is none in our device(related to noise cancelling)
2-ACDB (Audio Calibration Database) which is completely different in Mi Max 3 cuz it has dual speaker and two speakers at the bottom, and ACDB is controlled by audio.primary.sdm660.so which is different for sure in both, i hope it's not related to that because it will be really a hard job!
here's the mixer_paths.xml am still looking into it maybe i can find something!
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@lukesan First please override media_profiles_vendor.xml manually because it looks like the script is not mounting vendor!
Regarding the file, media_profiles_V1_0.xml, mixer_paths_i2s.xml, mixer_paths_mtp.xml, mixer_paths_skus.xml, mixer_paths_skush.xml, mixer_paths_wcd9326.xml, mixer_paths_wcd9335.xml and mixer_paths_wcd9340.xml
are the same md5! but mixer_paths.xml (which i downloaded the whole rom just to get it in order to try to enable dual speaker) is completely different!
Also i have 2 doubts:
1- in build.prop which is in vendor they changed ro.vendor.audio.sdk.fluencetype to fluence which is none in our device(related to noise cancelling)
2-ACDB (Audio Calibration Database) which is completely different in Mi Max 3 cuz it has dual speaker and two speakers at the bottom, and ACDB is controlled by audio.primary.sdm660.so which is different for sure in both, i hope it's not related to that because it will be really a hard job!
here's the mixer_paths.xml am still looking into it maybe i can find something!
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Probably it is taking the media_profiles_vendor.xml which I already edited manually. Well to check that our device is capable you could check with Cinema-FV5 lite which is free up to 1280x720 resolution. Disable the AGC and you get a nice clear sound full audio spectrum. I'm on a 8.7.5 rom and when I start to record my image is taken from the upper left corner all zoomed in. Not sure which rom you are on, but could you give that a try?
If it's that *.so file we need to address someone with the right knowledge. I've never decompiled stuff like that.
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Probably it is taking the media_profiles_vendor.xml which I already edited manually. Well to check that our device is capable you could check with Cinema-FV5 lite which is free up to 1280x720 resolution. Disable the AGC and you get a nice clear sound full audio spectrum. I'm on a 8.7.5 rom and when I start to record my image is taken from the upper left corner all zoomed in. Not sure which rom you are on, but could you give that a try?
If it's that *.so file we need to address someone with the right knowledge. I've never decompiled stuff like that.
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I'll try the app ASAP and i'll keep trying...never give up
BTW, that lib is most likely C++ signed binary so you can't do anything about it!
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I'll try the app ASAP and i'll keep trying...never give up
BTW, that lib is most likely C++ signed binary so you can't do anything about it!
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Just came back from the festival that I told about. The default MIUI video cam.. wow made a complete mess. The AGC went completely crazy and no bass. Using cinema-FV5 ... wow listening to it right now with my earplugs..... it's like I'm still there. Ok the bass sounds (only) a bit distorted, but I was standing at the front and the smart people there handed out headphones that dampened sound to the kids. I myself suffer from tinnitus so I have -20dB earplugs ... even then it was crazy loud.
So cinema-FV5 is definitely a must with music. Not sure if I can upload something on Youtube without violating copyrights. But surely this phone is capable of recording high quality audio for sure.
Same happened to me. After recording the stage with artists and loud music. It looked OK, stabilised video at 1080p, but sound lacks bass with stock camera app.
I would like to try better camera apps like gcam, just there are ~50 hours for me to wait till I can unlock my bootloader and flash a decent ROM.
Then we could record at 60fps 1080p and [email protected] with normal audio.
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Same happened to me. After recording the stage with artists and loud music. It looked OK, stabilised video at 1080p, but sound lacks bass with stock camera app.
I would like to try better camera apps like gcam, just there are ~50 hours for me to wait till I can unlock my bootloader and flash a decent ROM.
Then we could record at 60fps 1080p and [email protected] with normal audio.
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Forget gcam or other roms for now since they use the same audio path. There is another trick I read about but it involves a lot of work and I would hardly call it a working thing unless you spend a lot of time. Check this thread. I know for the MI MIX but same procedure applies for now. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/mi-mix-2-video-sound-recording-quality-t3776450
Leave the 60fps and 4K behind if it is in a dark environment. You might end up with dropped frames etc which is really annoying.
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Forget gcam or other roms for now since they use the same audio path. There is another trick I read about but it involves a lot of work and I would hardly call it a working thing unless you spend a lot of time. Check this thread. I know for the MI MIX but same procedure applies for now. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/mi-mix-2-video-sound-recording-quality-t3776450
Leave the 60fps and 4K behind if it is in a dark environment. You might end up with dropped frames etc which is really annoying.
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Have you tried it? I've tried your trick with the bitrate increase in media_profiles.xml, though I've set it to 192000 and used the FV-5 disable the AGC and it's much better quality! Although the bass is a bit too much pronounced and the meds and highs are a bit sacrificed, it's still much better than stock. But with the custom settings for audio in FV-5 it makes that "underwater" sound, no matter which combination I used, but I did everything according to your post, only if I leave the default values it works. (I now suspect it was maybe because of the stereo recording option)
I am interested to make some changes using the thread you linked, I'm just afraid not to make a mess of volumes in earpiece or introduce echo during a call or something like that, that's why I'm hesitating.
The AGC makes a total mess of recording, it lowers the quality and introduces background noise.
For the 60fps I'm not sure that works as none of the camera app that I've tried are able to record it (I'm on AOSP based rom) because it depends on the camera blobs, and I'm not sure Xiaomi updated the sources, but they did introduce it in MIUI 10 builds.
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Have you tried it? I've tried your trick with the bitrate increase in media_profiles.xml, though I've set it to 192000 and used the FV-5 disable the AGC and it's much better quality! Although the bass is a bit too much pronounced and the meds and highs are a bit sacrificed, it's still much better than stock. But with the custom settings for audio in FV-5 it makes that "underwater" sound, no matter which combination I used, but I did everything according to your post, only if I leave the default values it works. (I now suspect it was maybe because of the stereo recording option)
I am interested to make some changes using the thread you linked, I'm just afraid not to make a mess of volumes in earpiece or introduce echo during a call or something like that, that's why I'm hesitating.
The AGC makes a total mess of recording, it lowers the quality and introduces background noise.
For the 60fps I'm not sure that works as none of the camera app that I've tried are able to record it (I'm on AOSP based rom) because it depends on the camera blobs, and I'm not sure Xiaomi updated the sources, but they did introduce it in MIUI 10 builds.
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Strange that you got the underwater sound. Can you check with this one? https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo Just drag and drop the file on it. It will show the audio properties.
Just to confirm again my settings in FV-5 I changed the resolution to 2592x1296 (turn on handshake thing on where you can actually see where you are recording, weird setting I know). In the 'Audio' settings check the attached screenshot.
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Strange that you got the underwater sound. Can you check with this one? https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo Just drag and drop the file on it. It will show the audio properties.
Just to confirm again my settings in FV-5 I changed the resolution to 2592x1296 (turn on handshake thing on where you can actually see where you are recording, weird setting I know). In the 'Audio' settings check the attached screenshot.
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Oh yes I did that, but you didn't check the "Custom audio settings" box so the app uses default system settings rather than the ones you selected. Try it out if you didn't already.
And I've checked with MediaInfo, the video was recorded in 96K (because the app didn't use custom settings), but anyway it should be using maximum possible values the device has set in media_profiles_vendor.xml, which is in my case 192K. I've seen now that media_profiles_V1_0.xml is basically the same file and there is 96K set as maximum, maybe both files need to be changed?
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Oh yes I did that, but you didn't check the "Custom audio settings" box so the app uses default system settings rather than the ones you selected. Try it out if you didn't already.
And I've checked with MediaInfo, the video was recorded in 96K (because the app didn't use custom settings), but anyway it should be using maximum possible values the device has set in media_profiles_vendor.xml, which is in my case 192K. I've seen now that media_profiles_V1_0.xml is basically the same file and there is 96K set as maximum, maybe both files need to be changed?
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That's normal since it seems you can't overwrite those settings in our current roms it seems. I bought that FV5 but I emailed support and never gotten answer back, to bad. It always takes the settings from that file on the phone it seems. And yes if you see 96Kb/s than it is normal that you hear these metallic sounds. Can you maybe attach the media_profiles_vendor.xml you have in the /system/vendor/etc dir?
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That's normal since it seems you can't overwrite those settings in our current roms it seems. I bought that FV5 but I emailed support and never gotten answer back, to bad. It always takes the settings from that file on the phone it seems. And yes if you see 96Kb/s than it is normal that you hear these metallic sounds. Can you maybe attach the media_profiles_vendor.xml you have in the /system/vendor/etc dir?
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Well recording in 96K instead of 48K which was the case with MIUI 9.5 in GSMArena test is already an improvement, however I'm sure this device is capable of even more. So for now, seems that just disabling AGC made a very good difference, it might just get better if we raise the bitrate even more. I've seen in the thread you linked that they actually modified media_profiles_V1_0.xml in case of LineageOS to raise the bitrate, I will now try that one as well.
Here is my file you requested.
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That's normal since it seems you can't overwrite those settings in our current roms it seems. I bought that FV5 but I emailed support and never gotten answer back, to bad. It always takes the settings from that file on the phone it seems. And yes if you see 96Kb/s than it is normal that you hear these metallic sounds. Can you maybe attach the media_profiles_vendor.xml you have in the /system/vendor/etc dir?
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I confirm that changing the media_profiles_v1_0.xml does increase the bitrate! I have set it to 192K, however since the maximum value that was set for each resolution (I've tested 1080p) is 156K the app used that one based on previous setting. Now every app should use the 156K if we don't alter the bitrate for each resolution separately (that's my guess at least).
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Just came back from the festival that I told about. The default MIUI video cam.. wow made a complete mess. The AGC went completely crazy and no bass. Using cinema-FV5 ... wow listening to it right now with my earplugs..... it's like I'm still there. Ok the bass sounds (only) a bit distorted, but I was standing at the front and the smart people there handed out headphones that dampened sound to the kids. I myself suffer from tinnitus so I have -20dB earplugs ... even then it was crazy loud.
So cinema-FV5 is definitely a must with music. Not sure if I can upload something on Youtube without violating copyrights. But surely this phone is capable of recording high quality audio for sure.
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I tried this app with the steps you mentioned and yeah, sound is better for sure but it's much better if we can get the same result on stock cam.
let's take it step by step, first is the bit rate, even after using Mi Max 3 files the bit rate remains the same! i checked my old Sony Xperia z2 mediaprofiles.xml and i found the aac bitRate is also 192000, see the video sample result in the 1st pic from sony and second one from note 5 pro!
Now clearly there's something controlling the cam audio beside mediaprofiles.xml since the modifications wasn't enough!
I'll record a log while recording and let's see if i can find any info about that!
@Cirra92 60 FPS is working on 9.5, i thought like you about blobs but surprisingly no! now i'm on 9.5.19.0 and i just got the camera apk from MIUI 10 and i have 60 FPS!
Also i found another thing which is interesting but it's still not working even on Mi Max 3.....looks like 120 FPS HFR is on the way!
Check this video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rjZx_5JD1s (13.06)
I managed to get this setting even if it's still grey!
etc\device_features/whyred.xml just added those lines:
<!--whether support camera video high frame-->
<bool name="support_camera_video_high_frame">true</bool>
let's try to make the cam perfect as much as possible!
Tested on the lousy zenfone 3 zoom (stock 3.5mm audio sucks inspite of DAC chip because of the poor engine optimization) and it worked like a champ but i believe other devices with SN 625 may benefit from it and they are A LOT, (use 709 build ONLY) other builds won't work as good, i tested them all.
Please do make a feedback on which other device this worked.
Snapdragon 845 devices (e.g. Sony XZ2) – improved Hi-Res Output detection
Sony XZ/XZ1 – improved Hi-Res Output detection
Lenovo X3 – reenabled 24bits
OnePlus (1st edition) – disabled DVC for Hi-Res output due to forced speaker playback
added new per-output option – No Duck – for cases when notification causes issues. Activated by default for Hi-Res output for some Snapdragon 625 devices (Asus Zenfone 3)
HTCs @ 7.0 – improved Hi-Res Output stability
Nexus 6P – fixed notification coloring
Enjoy Hi-Res music all.
Direct download, use poweramp unlocker to activate it.
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Tested on the lousy zenfone 3 zoom (stock 3.5mm audio sucks inspite of DAC chip because of the poor engine optimization) and it worked like a champ but i believe other devices with SN 625 may benefit from it and they are A LOT, (use 709 build ONLY) other builds won't work as good, i tested them all.
Please do make a feedback on which other device this worked.
Snapdragon 845 devices (e.g. Sony XZ2) – improved Hi-Res Output detection
Sony XZ/XZ1 – improved Hi-Res Output detection
Lenovo X3 – reenabled 24bits
OnePlus (1st edition) – disabled DVC for Hi-Res output due to forced speaker playback
added new per-output option – No Duck – for cases when notification causes issues. Activated by default for Hi-Res output for some Snapdragon 625 devices (Asus Zenfone 3)
HTCs @ 7.0 – improved Hi-Res Output stability
Nexus 6P – fixed notification coloring
Enjoy Hi-Res music all.
link for pros:
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APK for noobs i'll upload it when the server wakes up
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Can't see any difference on the audio on Poweramp with this option set for active. The audio quality really sucks on this device.
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Can't see any difference on the audio on Poweramp with this option set for active. The audio quality really sucks on this device.
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Did you toggle the 'Wired headset/AUX" ? and was your test with headphones or via the loud speaker? and what your headphones are?
This release 709 worked for me gloriously! the only problem that it's not free and needs some work that you can find on youtube or i would post a fellow up about the odds of activating it but i just needed a conformation that it at least made a difference by utilizing the DAC chip on board!!
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Did you toggle the 'Wired headset/AUX" ? and was your test with headphones or via the loud speaker? and what your headphones are?
This release 709 worked for me gloriously! the only problem that it's not free and needs some work that you can find on youtube or i would post a fellow up about the odds of activating it but i just needed a conformation that it at least made a difference by utilizing the DAC chip on board!!
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I've downloaded the apk you uploaded and followed the screenshots. It made zero difference to the sound quality. Poweramp DVC is great on other devices, but on my zenfone it sucks, the audio is distorted, the only way to tolerate the audio quality is by disabling it. Best player I could find so far for my zenfone is Phonograph.
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I've downloaded the apk you uploaded and followed the screenshots. It made zero difference to the sound quality. Poweramp DVC is great on other devices, but on my zenfone it sucks, the audio is distorted, the only way to tolerate the audio quality is by disabling it. Best player I could find so far for my zenfone is Phonograph.
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The zenfone 3 zoom have an amazing sound quality and believe me the bass is insane via a good headphones, you just need to find a solution to make use of it's potentials, if you want to go throw troubleshooting provide some more information like the exact model and what software build you are currently running... you are right about the distortion i was very upset with the sound quality at the beginning but poweramp made the DAC work properly.
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The zenfone 3 zoom have an amazing sound quality and believe me the bass is insane via a good headphones, you just need to find a solution to make use of it's potentials, if you want to go throw troubleshooting provide some more information like the exact model and what software build you are currently running... you are right about the distortion i was very upset with the sound quality at the beginning but poweramp made the DAC work properly.
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I wouldn't say that the sound quality on the zenfone 3 zoom is amazing. This DTS audio thing is terrible and makes sound awful. I've installed an even older version of poweramp and tried your solution, and it made a difference with my JBL T210 (not the best one around, surely). However, using Poweramp with DVC on an old Galaxy S6 that I have laying around is still miles better. Sound quality is my only complaint about this phone, that's why I was hoping for a custom rom for this thing.
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I wouldn't say that the sound quality on the zenfone 3 zoom is amazing. This DTS audio thing is terrible and makes sound awful. I've installed an even older version of poweramp and tried your solution, and it made a difference with my JBL T210 (not the best one around, surely). However, using Poweramp with DVC on an old Galaxy S6 that I have laying around is still miles better. Sound quality is my only complaint about this phone, that's why I was hoping for a custom rom for this thing.
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Yeah you're absolutely right that DTS is a marketing thing and it sucks, you just keep trying on that poweramp 709 build only and try downloading it from APKPURE or somewhere else because the one that i provided was patched with lucky patcher and i hoped it would work with a non-rooted device to skip the activation process but apparently that is not the case, after i reflashed the phone and got rid of the root access i had to install poweramp unlocker and i have to reinstall the the main app every 2 days because without the root i can't seem to be able to activate it, keep digging, i know what a good DAC sounds like, it's not an HTC native level but it's miles ahead of the stock drivers and even better than viper4android module on magisk.
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Yeah you're absolutely right that DTS is a marketing thing and it sucks, you just keep trying on that poweramp 709 build only and try downloading it from APKPURE or somewhere else because the one that i provided was patched with lucky patcher and i hoped it would work with a non-rooted device to skip the activation process but apparently that is not the case, after i reflashed the phone and got rid of the root access i had to install poweramp unlocker and i have to reinstall the the main app every 2 days because without the root i can't seem to be able to activate it, keep digging, i know what a good DAC sounds like, it's not an HTC native level but it's miles ahead of the stock drivers and even better than viper4android module on magisk.
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No worries about that. I've purchased the app years ago. The only thing now is that I can't allow it to update. Thanks for the hint, the sound is clearly better now.
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...because the one that i provided was patched with lucky patcher and i hoped it would work with a non-rooted device to skip the activation process but apparently that is not the case,...
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Hello, today I recorded video via camera and when I play it, there is no sound, only video. In downloaded videos is sound, in recorded no. I use stock Rom RUI v1.0. How to solve it?
You're one of many people who fell victims of these bustards. The so-called noise reduction is in fact sound reduction. I also have absolutely disgusting sound in recorded videos. These criminals don't bother to at least produce an update which fixes this. However, you'll find on this forum 2 tricks. One requires you to go through all these risky rooting things, another (suggested by me) is to use Open Camera app, which allows to record unprocessed sound.
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You're one of many people who fell victims of these bustards. The so-called noise reduction is in fact sound reduction. I also have absolutely disgusting sound in recorded videos. These criminals don't bother to at least produce an update which fixes this. However, you'll find on this forum 2 tricks. One requires you to go through all these risky rooting things, another (suggested by me) is to use Open Camera app, which allows to record unprocessed sound.
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Which are the methods with root?
Hi,
I recently got a S21 FE and while I'm pretty happy with it, I feel like the speakers are far below acceptable.
Up until now I owned an, by now 5 years old, Huawei mate 10 plus. It was a middle class phone with normal speakers - nothing fancy. However the sound quality is still much better. It got some "Stereo+" setting that only activates in landscape + certain volume but it improves it a lot.
Since there is no additional hardware build into it, it has to be done by software. Is there a way to get a similar effect on Samsung phones? I tried the build in equalizer but it didn't do much nor did it really improve things.
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
I recently got a S21 FE and while I'm pretty happy with it, I feel like the speakers are far below acceptable.
Up until now I owned an, by now 5 years old, Huawei mate 10 plus. It was a middle class phone with normal speakers - nothing fancy. However the sound quality is still much better. It got some "Stereo+" setting that only activates in landscape + certain volume but it improves it a lot.
Since there is no additional hardware build into it, it has to be done by software. Is there a way to get a similar effect on Samsung phones? I tried the build in equalizer but it didn't do much nor did it really improve things.
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Whiteout root no
Could you explain why not? I do not need the exact feature, I just want a similar sound which should be possible with equalizers or something similar, or not?
Bomber293 said:
Could you explain why not? I do not need the exact feature, I just want a similar sound which should be possible with equalizers or something similar, or not?
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Codecs , replacement and tweaks like this I know. Equaliser settings not enough https://github.com/Briclyaz/NLSound_module_QCom example
In the settings for the tone:
Switch off "Dolby Atmos"
Set the Equalizer to "Jazz"
Like this you will have a much more warm speaker sound.
Additionally you can try Poweramp Equalizer from google play store. It's got a load of features for the equalizer.
I'm using Wavelet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pittvandewitt.wavelet
It's a good alternative to Viper without root
Also jetAudio player has a lot of audio settings
jetAudio HD Music Player Plus - Apps on Google Play
Network/Cloud Streaming, Visualization, Graphic Equalizer and Sound Effects.
play.google.com